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76 01 19 rc.may Conversations
Bhavananda: People are attracted by the Westerners coming to the matha. So if we're up at that matha, any of us, and then they say, "Just see." They say in Bengali, "Just see. They are coming. To see our guru maharaja, they are coming."
Prabhupada: That was the policy of Madhava Maharaja and Sridhara Maharaja, that although Bhaktivedanta swami is propagating throughout, he is subordinate to us, under our instruction. So all these three.
[PADA: Yes, these Gaudiya Matha leaders thought that Srila Prabhupada was their subordinate. We recall Himavati dasi (then the wife of Hansadutta) saying she went to Sridhara Maharaja's matha around 1970 and the people there were making fun of Srila Prabhupada as "the guru of the hippies and mlecchas." Himavati came back to the ISKCON camp crying, and she told Srila Prabhupada that the Sridhara folks were insulting him. So Srila Prabhupada said, no one should visit Sridhara Maharaja's temple. And this is what happened, we never went there nor did Srila Prabhupada go there either.]
Srila Prabhupada Viraha Astaka 1958
2) Your so-called disciple, the jackal named Ananta Vasudeva, disobeyed your final instructions to keep the mission united, and thereby created a scandalous fiasco.
[PADA: Notice that the guru annointed by Sridhara Maharaja is being called "a jackal."]
3) Is there a single temple to be found where your instructions are still being followed? As it is said: "punar musiko bhava"- Everyone has "again become a mouse."
4) The lion's food has been stolen away by the deceptive tricks of the jackal. Now caught in Maya's mighty clutches everyone is reduced to wailing and weeping.
[PADA: Notice that the guru annointed by Sridhara Maharaja is being called "a jackal."]
3) Is there a single temple to be found where your instructions are still being followed? As it is said: "punar musiko bhava"- Everyone has "again become a mouse."
4) The lion's food has been stolen away by the deceptive tricks of the jackal. Now caught in Maya's mighty clutches everyone is reduced to wailing and weeping.
760203mw.may Conversations
Prabhupada: At least historically it be proved ... because of envy of my God brothers. I was known. Although they knew that Srila Prabhupada (Srila Saraswati Thakura) liked me very much, because I am grhastha, I was known (by my God brothers) as paca-grhastha. PACA-GRHASTHA MEANS A ROTTEN GRHASTHA. And now they say, "This grhastha has come out more than us? What is this? Sridhara Maharaja's chief disciple?"
[PADA: The Gaudiya Matha folks used to try to paint Sridhara Maharaja as the superior to Srila Prabhupada. Of course one of the reasons was that Sridhara Maharaja was a big supporter of the false gurus like Madhava maharaja, and they knew Srila Prabhupada did not accept their false guru system.]
Bhavananda: Gaura.
Prabhupada: HE ALWAYS USED TO SAY TO SRIDHARA MAHARAJA THAT "YOU ARE SEEING ABHAY BABU AS GRHASTHA, BUT HE IS MORE THAN MANY YOGIS." HE WAS TELLING.
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770422r3.bom Conversations
Prabhupada: He cannot make any comment. These are facts. Two parties there were. One party, to use guru as their instrument for self-aggrandizement, and another party left guru. So both of them are offenders. This Kunja Babu, this Tirtha Maharaja's party, he wanted to enjoy senses through guru. And the Bagh Bazaar party, they left.
Tamala Krsna: Vasudeva.
Prabhupada: So both of them are severe offenders.
Tamala Krsna: What about Sridhara Maharaja?
Prabhupada: SRIDHARA MAHARAJA BELONGED TO THE BAGH BAZAAR PARTY. And I was living aloof. My Guru Maharaja approved. He said, "It is better that he is aloof from them."
Tamala Krsna: He could understand that his disciples were not...
Prabhupada: No, he was very sorry. AT THE LAST STAGE HE WAS DISGUSTED.
Yet another "nice" website of ISKCON Bangalore offenders,
ReplyDeletehttp://prabhupadavision.com/2012/02/what-holds-us-back/