RE: http://pratyatosa.com/?P=1c
PADA: We had heard that Srila Prabhupada had wanted Pishima to cook for him. If anyone else has info on this please forward to angel108b@yahoo.com ys pd]
[Excerpt: When I asked Pishima what would happen to Śrīla Prabhupāda’s sincere disciples if ISKCON was destroyed, she explained that Śrīla Prabhupāda said that Krishna would protect them, and the devotees who had any spiritual intelligence would leave ISKCON before anything really bad happened. Events have borne this out.]
Dear Vaiṣṇavas,
Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Śrīla Prabhupāda!
I am an old disciple of Śrīla Prabhupāda who, for reasons that will become clear after you read the rest of this post, wishes to remain anonymous.
Many devotees have written messages pro and con the Gurukuli lawsuit. What both sides don't know is that the lawsuit is actually Śrīla Prabhupāda’s desire. Let me explain.
When Śrīla Prabhupāda passed away I was in India. At the time of his passing I was in Delhi doing some service for the Vṛndāvana mandir. As soon as I heard of Śrīla Prabhupāda’s passing, I rushed to Vṛndāvan only to find that the samādhi ceremony had already been performed. All the devotees were shocked and lamenting in separation. All that is, except the new "gurus", who were celebrating. Their mood was in such contrast to the rest of the devotees it really stood out.
As I entered the Vṛndāvan temple guesthouse I saw Śrīla Prabhupāda's sister Pishima. Spontaneously I paid my daṇḍavats to her. I had known Pishima a long time and she greeted me warmly. Pishima invited me to her room in the guesthouse and I was only too glad to spend some time in her association.
At this time Pishima, as the rest of us, were engulfed in grief at the passing of our Gurudeva. Through her tears and grief, Pishima told me many confidential things that day. She implored me to keep them secret until the proper time. Accordingly I have remained silent until the present situation has made disclosure of some of her confidences appropriate.
Pishima had already confided in me in Māyāpur in 1975 that Śrīla Prabhupāda was being poisoned to death. Śrīla Prabhupāda had brought her to Māyāpur to cook for him, and for a short time I was her kitchen helper. She was very concerned at the time that there was a conspiracy among Śrīla Prabhupāda’s leading disciples and the Gauḍīya Math to murder him and take over the movement.
At our meeting in Vṛndāvan after Śrīla Prabhupāda’s disappearance, Pishima confirmed that Śrīla Prabhupāda had been poisoned. Śrīla Prabhupāda had told her specifically that his inner circle of sannyāsīs were the poisoners.
Śrīla Prabhupāda had told her many other things as well. He said that he decided to accept the poisoning as Krishna's will. Just like Mahārāja Parīkṣit accepted Sringi's curse, he saw it as an opportunity to leave this world and return back to home. In addition, he wanted to destroy ISKCON.
I questioned Pishima closely on this point, because it seemed to be contrary to common sense. Pishima said that Śrīla Prabhupāda had determined that the leadership of ISKCON had deviated so completely from the actual teachings of the Gauḍīya Vaiṣṇava sampradāya that he wanted to destroy the organization, lest they become another Catholic Church and attempt world domination.
According to Pishima, Śrīla Prabhupāda was totally disgusted with his disciples' failure to understand his pure Vrajabasi mood and that they became entangled in organizational politics. So he manipulated them into perfoming an elephant offense to destroy them. In this way he was just like Krishna who arranged to destroy His own family army, the Yadu dynasty, with a curse and a fratricidal war, lest they become too much of a burden for the earth.
Śrīla Prabhupāda was so humble he viewed his own life and self-preservation as nothing. At that point he was much more concerned about the continuity of the sampradāya. He sacrificed his life so that his bogus disciples would be cut down and stopped from preaching in the wrong way, from a neophyte platform.
When I asked Pishima what would happen to Śrīla Prabhupāda’s sincere disciples if ISKCON was destroyed, she explained that Śrīla Prabhupāda said that Krishna would protect them, and the devotees who had any spiritual intelligence would leave ISKCON before anything really bad happened. Events have borne this out.
Then I asked Pishima how the result of the elephant offense would manifest. She told me that Śrīla Prabhupāda predicted that the ISKCON movement would become embroiled in court cases that would destroy their properties and bank balance, stop their preaching and punish the so-called leaders. Now this is also happening.
Finally I asked Pishima how the movement would go on after all this devastation. Pishima replied that Śrīla Prabhupāda had told her that Krishna would take care, and that he had already picked one of his disciples to be his successor. But the successor would not manifest his potency until after the present structure of ISKCON was completely destroyed.
Pishima also told me many other things that Śrīla Prabhupāda told her that are not yet appropriate to reveal. I have kept these secrets in my heart these so many years. It is a relief to finally be able to see these predictions come true. Even though they are heavy, it assures me that Śrīla Prabhupāda knew everything all along, that Krishna is taking care of His movement, and that no cheater can cheat the greatest cheat without being thoroughly defeated in the end.
Very truly yours,
Anon Amos
Subject: Re: Lawsuit is Prabhupāda's Desire
Date: Sun, Aug 16 2000 13:44
From: mahaksadasa
I gotta back this story by anon amos, It almost sounds exactly like the source I used in the poisoning issue (the Internet version of IVC). It may well be the same person, (if it is, haribol, been over twenty years, but I remember you well).
The inner circle of power-mongers were engaged in their demoniac deeds long before maha-samadhi, my only regret is that those who were aware of the infiltration did not rescue Śrīla Prabhupāda from their chains of oppression and begin the lawsuit back then, with Him as our guide.
mahak
Mahavegavati dd Supports “Anon Amos” (http://www.vnn.org/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000735-2.html):
Mahavegavati Dāsī (VNNF: posted 08-17-2000 01:48 PM)
Incidentally, I can accept the post which was put up by Pratyatosha prabhu. I am not saying that I feel I "know" it is true, but I do feel that it can be true.
Another Amazing Letter: Ashvattama dāsa (http://harekrsna.com/cgi-bin/postit?login=rocanā&topic=lawsuit/forum/forum&order=date&article=166):
Subject: Re: Lawsuit is Prabhupāda's Desire
Date: Sun, Aug 22 2000 08:55
From: Ashvattama dāsa
Dear assembled devotees,
Please accept my most humble obeisances. All glories to Śrīla Prabhupāda.
In these days when dharma teeters on one leg -- truthfulness -- I was very excited to see the posting from "Anon" (though I'm pretty sure I know who he is, I'll respect his desire for privacy. I wouldn't want him to get killed by the GBC.)
Until I read this post, I thought I was the only one who Pishima had talked to that fateful fall in '77. I also approached her and after offering my full daṇḍavats, we too had a lengthy discussion about Śrīla Prabhupāda’s true desires for the future of ISKCON. It was EXACTLY like Anon describes.
However, I won't be so hesitant to reveal everything, because I think, now, finally, the time is ripe. We should all understand and celebrate Śrīla Prabhupāda’s mastery or the spiritual and material world and his spirit of renunciation. He would work for over 10 years to establish ISKCON, but he knew they were going to poison him and then take over and take the spirit out of the saṅkīrtana movement, so he was looking forward to the inevitable lawsuits that would destroy the corrupt organization. He even kept Tamal Krishna as his personal servant just so he would be poisoned as planned.
And he put Jagadish in charge of gurukula because he knew his misconceptions about how to raise Krishna conscious children, coupled with the low priority that the GBC would give to "family matters", all but ensured a lawsuit 20 years down the line. He also had Tamal -- Pishima witnessed this and told me -- put "henceforth" in the famous July 9th letter, which at the time seemed a bit strange to me, that in poor health Śrīla Prabhupāda would pay such excruciating attention to an apparently small detail. Now I realize that it was so that there would be grounds for Adridharana to sue the GBC in India as well.
So even though at the time I knew that many of the gurus were corrupt, and I knew that gurukulas weren't all they were supposed to be, I had to keep my mouth shut in order for Prabhupāda's plan, revealed to me in secret, to manifest. So while the zonal acharyas were throwing a party on the top floor of the guesthouse, I simply swallowed my tears. I actually had to leave the association of devotees for a while and perform service on my own, it was that painful.
The part that "Anon" has not revealed yet, but I feel it necessary to get out in the open now, is that Prabhupāda's designated successor is none other than Pratyatosh Prabhu. Pishima gave me the clues and now they all fall into place. He would be a sincere devotee who was often misunderstood and thought crazy, especially by anyone who knew him. However, she told me, he would slowly but surely manifest himself as the only person who understood the real place of Prabhupāda and ISKCON and Krishna via some "new way of preaching" as Pishima called it. I can only take that to refer to the Internet.
Now I know Pratyatosh will deny this in his humility, but I think it's time for all right thinking devotees to kick out the pretenders who obviously killed Prabhupāda so they could have sex with kids, and install Pratyatosh Prabhu as our living acharya. Pishima told me so and she couldn't be wrong.
[Pratyatoṣa Dāsa: It sounds to me like Pishima Prabhu didn't actually name any names ("Pishima gave me the clues."), but my being the next link in the disciplic succession is, I assume, simply Ashvattama Prabhu's opinion.
I've been thinking for years now that the most likely candidate for a new acharya would be someone from the third generation, who took ritvik initiation from Śrīla Prabhupāda. Didn't Śrīla Prabhupāda say that the third generation would be a generation of pure devotees? How can a person such as myself, who was born into a meat eating family, ever be any kind of an acharya in this lifetime?]
Dear PADA,
Please accept my most humble obeisances. All glories to His Divine Grace Śrīla Prabhupāda!
I was shocked by the anonymous letter regarding Pishima that appeared in your 8/17 newsletter. Some pretty drastic statements were made, and a lot of it didn't make sense to me for the following reasons:
1. Pishima did not speak English, so the person who had this conversation with her must have spoken fluent Bengali.
2. If Pishima invited the person into her room in the Vṛndāvan guesthouse, the person must have been a woman because it doesn't make sense that Pishima would invite a man into her room since Pishima was a very proper Vaiṣṇavī lady.
[Pratyatoṣa Dāsa: So, how could someone named "Ashvattama dāsa", who no one seems to have heard of, have had such a private conversation with Pishima?]
3. How many "old disciples of Śrīla Prabhupāda" (as the writer claims to be) are there who are Bengali-speaking females?
4. When and where did Śrīla Prabhupāda spend so much time alone with his sister when he could have told her all these things?
5. The anonymous writer says, "Śrīla Prabhupāda was totally disgusted with his disciples' failure to understand his pure Vrajabasi mood" and "He sacrificed his life so that his bogus disciples would be cut down and stopped from preaching in the wrong way: from a neophyte platform."
The writer also states, "Śrīla Prabhupāda had told her …that he had already picked one of his disciples to be his successor."
These statements all sound very much like the rhetoric we hear from devotees who have become followers of persons from the Gauḍīya Math and Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja. These devotees seem to have developed a condescending attitude towards us lowly followers of Śrīla Prabhupāda and revel in pointing out our "neophyte" status. Also, most importantly, Śrīla Prabhupāda always said that he WOULD NOT "pick a successor", that the Guru is "self-effulgent." Regarding the mood displayed by Śrīla Prabhupāda during his time with us, to me he appeared like a Preaching Lion in Lord Caitanya's transcendental army. This "pure Vrajabasi mood" (whatever that means) is more the realm of the Gauḍīya Mat;ha and Nārāyaṇa Mahārāja followers, is it not?
[Pratyatoṣa Dāsa: But if "Anon Amos" is from the Gauḍīya Math, and trying to perpetrate a hoax, then why would he write: "…there was a conspiracy among Śrīla Prabhupāda’s leading disciples and the Gauḍīya Math to murder him and take over the movement."?]
I have an old friend, who I have lost touch with for the past 10 years, who was Pishima's personal servant in 1977 in Māyāpur. She considered Pishima to be a pure devotee, and Anonymous' letter just does not correlate with what my friend told me about Pishima. I would like to request that Anonymous come forward so that his/her story can be corroborated since some very grave allegations have been made. If Anonymous' letter is nothing more than a hoax, then it should be exposed as fraudulent. How despicable it would be for someone to manufacture these words and put them in our worshipable Pishima's mouth! Haven't we who are struggling to cling to Śrīla Prabhupāda's lotus feet suffered enough heartbreak? No more, please!
