Friday, April 21, 2017
Jehovah's Witness Group Banned in Russia
https://www.yahoo.com/news/jehovah-witnesses-banned-russia-supreme-170631837.html
[PADA: Property and assets ordered seized and liquidated. While I am not entirely a big fan of these Jehovah's folks, its alarming that any alternate religion to the "Russian Orthodox Church" can be seized and shut down instantly. Not a good sign for "other religions" in that region, or for religious freedoms in general. And that could be bad news for other "smaller sects."
The Jehovah's witness folks sometimes visit me here, and I find them to be friendly, and at least very dedicated to their religion and serving Jehovah. This cannot be a major dangerous problem, unless you are a competing religion and they are taking people away from your camp.
Of course here in ISKCON we had the direct opposite rule, we were ordered that we had to allow our competing religions and camps into our society, like Sridhara, Narayan, BV and BP Puri maharajas, Ramesh Baba, Fakir Mohan, Babajis, Disciples of Prabhupada insulters like Madhava Maharaja etc., and we had to allow them to siphon off thousands of our ISKCON followers over to their camps under GBC decree.
Yep:
ISKCON MAYAPUR getting ready to welcome the transcendental body of HDG BHAKTI BALABH TIRTHA MAHARAJA on the 21st of April 2017.
ISKCON MAYAPUR is getting ready to receive HDG SRILA BHAKTI BALLABH TIRTHA MAHARAJA's transcendental body. As per instructions of HH JAYAPATAKA SWAMI GURUMAHARAJA full ceremony of honoring an Acarya will be performed. Maharaja will be received with big Kirtan by devotees and special invocation and Sanyas suktas by the Gurukulis.
[PADA: Property and assets ordered seized and liquidated. While I am not entirely a big fan of these Jehovah's folks, its alarming that any alternate religion to the "Russian Orthodox Church" can be seized and shut down instantly. Not a good sign for "other religions" in that region, or for religious freedoms in general. And that could be bad news for other "smaller sects."
The Jehovah's witness folks sometimes visit me here, and I find them to be friendly, and at least very dedicated to their religion and serving Jehovah. This cannot be a major dangerous problem, unless you are a competing religion and they are taking people away from your camp.
Of course here in ISKCON we had the direct opposite rule, we were ordered that we had to allow our competing religions and camps into our society, like Sridhara, Narayan, BV and BP Puri maharajas, Ramesh Baba, Fakir Mohan, Babajis, Disciples of Prabhupada insulters like Madhava Maharaja etc., and we had to allow them to siphon off thousands of our ISKCON followers over to their camps under GBC decree.
Yep:
ISKCON MAYAPUR getting ready to welcome the transcendental body of HDG BHAKTI BALABH TIRTHA MAHARAJA on the 21st of April 2017.
ISKCON MAYAPUR is getting ready to receive HDG SRILA BHAKTI BALLABH TIRTHA MAHARAJA's transcendental body. As per instructions of HH JAYAPATAKA SWAMI GURUMAHARAJA full ceremony of honoring an Acarya will be performed. Maharaja will be received with big Kirtan by devotees and special invocation and Sanyas suktas by the Gurukulis.
Then his transcendental body will be taken in procession to get Darsan of Srila Prabhupada's Bhajan kutir and thereafter will proceed to the main temple of Sri Sri Radha Madhav. Panca Tattva and Narasimhadeva for special Darsan. On the court yard will be given full honors by devotees with special Vaishnava songs and then procession will proceed to His Divine Grace's Math.
What!
We worship a disciple of Madhava, the person who yelled at Prabhupada for having the title of Prabhupada? These are the people we need to glorify in ISKCON? ISKCON has a policy, we get to worship EVERYONE ELSE except Srila Prabhupada?
Of course then we also have guys like Krishna Kirtan das and his vociferous program of promoting Krishna Balaram swami, who is writing his own Bhagavatams -- self evidently, he thinks Prabhupada's writings are defective. So we need to allow the competition to Srila Prabhupada to re-write his books and take over his religion.
Our bogus leaders and their clones like Krishna Kirtan actually made the opposite rule, we have to allow in all the other competing camps and siphon our religion down to the bone, because they wanted to split our religion over to the competition. Maybe they should have had the same rules as Russia, other camps cannot operate in our domain. ys pd]
What!
We worship a disciple of Madhava, the person who yelled at Prabhupada for having the title of Prabhupada? These are the people we need to glorify in ISKCON? ISKCON has a policy, we get to worship EVERYONE ELSE except Srila Prabhupada?
Invites in the competition
Of course then we also have guys like Krishna Kirtan das and his vociferous program of promoting Krishna Balaram swami, who is writing his own Bhagavatams -- self evidently, he thinks Prabhupada's writings are defective. So we need to allow the competition to Srila Prabhupada to re-write his books and take over his religion.
Our bogus leaders and their clones like Krishna Kirtan actually made the opposite rule, we have to allow in all the other competing camps and siphon our religion down to the bone, because they wanted to split our religion over to the competition. Maybe they should have had the same rules as Russia, other camps cannot operate in our domain. ys pd]
Thursday, April 20, 2017
Disappearance Vrndavan Das Thakura
Happy Festival Day of Sri Vrindavan Das Thakur! (Friday 4/21/17)
Vrindavan Das Thakur was born on the Krishna-dvadashi of the month of Vaishakh in 1429 of the Shaka era (1507 AD). Some say he was born in Mamgachi in the Nabadwip area, others say his birthplace was in Kumarahatta. His father was Vaikunthanatha Vipra, who originally came from Sylhet (Sylhet), his mother Narayani Devi. Narayani was the daughter of Srivasa Pandit’s elder brother, Shrinalina Pandit. Kavi Karnapura has also mentioned her name in his Gaura-ganoddesha-dipika:
ambikayah svasa yasin namna shrila-kilimbika
krishnocchishtam prabhuïjana seyam narayani mata
Kilimbika, who used to eat Krishna’s remnants, was the younger sister of Krishna’s nurse Ambika (Srivasa’s wife, Malini). In Mahaprabhu’s lila, she became Narayani.
Narayani also achieved fame because she received Gaurasundara’s mercy when he gave her his remnants. When the Lord displayed his divine form in the Mahaprakasha in Srivasa Angan, Narayani was only a small child of four, but the Lord made her intoxicated with the ecstasy of prema. Whether born in Mamagachi or in Kumarahatta, Vrindavan Das later lived in the village of Denuria, within the Matreshvara precinct of Burdwan district. Thus Denuria is considered to be his Shripata.
He spent some of his childhood with his mother in Mamagachi, at the home of his maternal grandparents where Narayani was married. Vrindavan Das’s Gaura-Nitai deities are still worshiped at the Mamagachi home. When his father died, he and his mother moved to Srivasa’s house where he received Mahaprabhu’s special blessings.
Vrindavan Das Writes Chaitanya Bhagavat
Because of the copious blessings he received from Nityananda Prabhu, Vrindavan Das is said to have been his initiated disciple.
Vrindavan Das is the recipient of Nityananda’s blessings. He is the original Vyasa of Chaitanya’s pastimes. (Chaitanya Charitamrita 3.20.82)
He wrote Chaitanya Bhagavat in 1535 AD. Krishnadas Kaviraj Goswami, the author of Chaitanya Charitamrita, has written the following in praise of Vrindavan Das Thakur:
Vrindavan Das, the son of Narayani, wrote the Chaitanya Mangala. Vedavyasa described Krishna’s life in the Srimad Bhagavatam and Vrindavan Das is the Vyasa of Chaitanya-lila. (Chaitanya Charitamrita 1.11.54-5)
Just as Vyasadeva compiled Lord Krishna’s pastimes in Srimad Bhagavatam, Thakur Vrindavan Das depicted Lord Chaitanya’s pastimes. His Chaitanya Mangala annihilates all misfortune. From it, I learned the wonders of Lord Chaitanya and Nityananda and came to know all the most subtle doctrines of devotional service to Krishna. Vrindavan Das Thakur has summarized the essence of the teachings of the Srimad Bhagavatam in his Chaitanya Mangala.
If even a Muslim or an atheist should listen to Chaitanya Mangala, he immediately becomes a great Vaishnava. An ordinary human being could not have composed such a sublime work; Lord Chaitanya himself has spoken through the mouth of Vrindavan Das. I offer millions of obeisances unto the lotus feet of Vrindavan Das Thakur who has delivered the entire universe through his book. He was born in the womb of Narayani who eternally enjoys Sri Chaitanya’s remnants. How wonderful is his description of the activites of the Lord, simply by hearing which the three worlds have become sanctified! (Chaitanya Charitamrita 1.8.34-42)
Vrindavan Das became so absorbed in the description of Nityananda Prabhu’s lila that he did not elaborately relate all of Mahaprabhu’s activities, only summarizing them in abbreviated form. Krishnadas then elaborated on these undescribed activities in his Chaitanya Charitamrita.
Vrindavan Das the authorized biographer of Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu and equal to Srila Vyasadeva. He has described the Lord’s pastimes in such a way as to make them sweeter and sweeter. I shall try as far as possible to fill in the accounts he left out out of fear of excessively enlarging his book. (Chaitanya Charitamrita 1.13.48-9)
Disappearance day of Sri Vrindavana dasa Thakura, April 21, 2017
Srila Prabhupada glorifies the unique position of Srila Vrindavana dasa Thakura\
Vrindavana dasa Thakura's birth
nārāyaṇī--caitanyera ucchiṣṭa-bhājana
tāṅra garbhe janmilā śrī-dāsa-vṛndāvana
SYNONYMS
nārāyaṇī—of the name Nārāyaṇī; caitanyera—of Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu; ucchiṣṭa-bhājana—eater of the remnants of food; tāṅra—of her; garbhe—in the womb; janmilā—took birth; śrī-dāsa-vṛndāvana—Śrīla Vṛndāvana dāsa Thākura.
TRANSLATION Nārāyaṇī eternally eats the remnants of the food of Caitanya Mahāprabhu. Śrīla Vṛndāvana dāsa Ṭhākura was born of her womb.
PURPORT
In the Gaura-gaṇoddeśa-dīpikā, a book written by Kavi-karṇapūra that describes all the associates of Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu and who they previously were, there is the following statement regarding Nārāyaṇī:
ambikāyāḥ svasā yāsīn
nāmnā śrīla-kilimbikā
kṛṣṇocchiṣṭaṁ prabhuñjānā
seyaṁ nārāyaṇī matā
When Lord Kṛṣṇa was a child, He was nursed by a woman named Ambikā, who had a younger sister named Kilimbikā. During the time of Lord Caitanya's incarnation, the same Kilimbikā used to eat the remnants of food left by Lord Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu. That Kilimbikā was Nārāyaṇī, who was a niece of Śrīvāsa Ṭhākura's. Later on, when she grew up and married, Śrīla Vṛndāvana dāsa Ṭhākura was born from her womb. A devotee of Lord Śrī Kṛṣṇa is celebrated in terms of devotional service rendered to the Lord; thus we know Śrīla Vṛndāvana dāsa Ṭhākura as the son of Nārāyaṇī. Śrīla Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī Ṭhākura notes in this connection that there is no reference to his paternal ancestry because there is no need to understand it.
Books : Sri Caitanya-caritamrta - 1975 Edition : Cc. Adi-lila : Adi 8: The Author Receives the Orders of Krsna and Guru : Adi 8.41 : PURPORT :
Vrindavana dasa Thakura as the author of Sri Caitanya-Bhagavata
vṛndāvana-dāsa--nārāyaṇīra nandana
'caitanya-maṅgala' yeṅho karila racana
SYNONYMS
vṛndāvana-dāsa—Śrīla Vṛndāvana dāsa Ṭhākura; nārāyaṇīra nandana—son of Nārāyaṇī; caitanya-maṅgala—the book of the name Caitanya-maṅgala; yeṅho—who; karila—did; racana—composition.
TRANSLATION
Vṛndāvana dāsa Ṭhākura, the son of Śrīmatī Nārāyaṇī, composed Śrī Caitanya-maṅgala [later known as Śrī Caitanya-bhāgavata]
Books : Sri Caitanya-caritamrta - 1975 Edition : Cc. Adi-lila : Adi 11: The Expansions of Lord Nityananda : Adi 11.54 :
bhāgavate kṛṣṇa-līlā varṇilā vedavyāsa
caitanya-līlāte vyāsa--vṛndāvana dāsa
SYNONYMS
bhāgavate—in Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam; kṛṣṇa-līlā—the pastimes of Lord Kṛṣṇa; varṇilā—described; veda-vyāsa—Dvaipāyana Vyāsadeva; caitanya-līlāte—in the pastimes of Lord Caitanya; vyāsa—Vedavyāsa; vṛndāvana dāsa—Śrīla Vṛndāvana dāsa Ṭhākura.
TRANSLATION
Śrīla Vyāsadeva described the pastimes of Kṛṣṇa in Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam. The Vyāsa of the pastimes of Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu was Vṛndāvana dāsa.
PURPORT
Śrīla Vṛndāvana dāsa Ṭhākura was an incarnation of Vedavyāsa and also a friendly cowherd boy named Kusumāpīḍa in kṛṣṇa-līlā.In other words, the author of Śrī Caitanya-bhāgavata, Śrīla Vṛndāvana dāsa Ṭhākura, the son of Śrīvāsa Ṭhākura's niece Nārāyaṇī, was a combined incarnation of Vedavyāsa and the cowherd boy Kusumāpīḍa. There is a descriptive statement by Śrīla Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī Ṭhākura in his commentary on Śrī Caitanya-bhāgavata giving the biographical details of the life of Vṛndāvana dāsa Ṭhākura
Alex Jones "Unhinged Conspiracy Theorist"
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/infowars-alex-jones-performance-artist-playing-character-lawyer-conspiracy-theory-donald-trump-a7687571.html
[PADA: Some devotees over the years have sent me various links to the Alex Jones' "Info Wars" site, with some alarming news story, where he propounds basically some of the Illuminati type stuff , ok same stuff that attracts folks like the Sanat, Mukunda, Prahlad, Janardan, HKC Jaipur types, and even some of our own associates.
Meanwhile his own wife says he is an unhinged conspiracy theorist? How come these "karmi" ladies are always way ahead of all of these "devotees"? And she says that their children are watching his unhinged show at their house, so its bad for their children. Well yeah ... its basically a lot of hype and hysteria and kids should not be subjected to these rants. She is right. Again!
And now even Alex Jones' own lawyer says he has not been espousing factual and real news, its basically fake news, because the whole show is "a performance act." Yep, many devotees are prone to fake news performance acts, whether from the unhinged GBC's guru side or from the mundane side.
Its amazing to me that probably hundreds of millions of "karmi women" can see these people are "unhinged conspiracy theorists" while many devotees lap up this news site as real and substantial. Then we wonder why so many "devotees" got sucked into the GBC's guru's fake news program? They did not listen to Srila Prabhupada, he says mundane news is fake news from the get go. He also says acharyas are not appointed, that is the real news. Krishna devotees who are part time Alex Jones' disciples, take note please! ys pd
[PADA: Some devotees over the years have sent me various links to the Alex Jones' "Info Wars" site, with some alarming news story, where he propounds basically some of the Illuminati type stuff , ok same stuff that attracts folks like the Sanat, Mukunda, Prahlad, Janardan, HKC Jaipur types, and even some of our own associates.
Meanwhile his own wife says he is an unhinged conspiracy theorist? How come these "karmi" ladies are always way ahead of all of these "devotees"? And she says that their children are watching his unhinged show at their house, so its bad for their children. Well yeah ... its basically a lot of hype and hysteria and kids should not be subjected to these rants. She is right. Again!
And now even Alex Jones' own lawyer says he has not been espousing factual and real news, its basically fake news, because the whole show is "a performance act." Yep, many devotees are prone to fake news performance acts, whether from the unhinged GBC's guru side or from the mundane side.
Its amazing to me that probably hundreds of millions of "karmi women" can see these people are "unhinged conspiracy theorists" while many devotees lap up this news site as real and substantial. Then we wonder why so many "devotees" got sucked into the GBC's guru's fake news program? They did not listen to Srila Prabhupada, he says mundane news is fake news from the get go. He also says acharyas are not appointed, that is the real news. Krishna devotees who are part time Alex Jones' disciples, take note please! ys pd
Wednesday, April 19, 2017
Krishna kirtan / KB Swami /Jvalamukhi / Dallas Lawsuit etc. update
Update NOTE: Krishna Kirtan's guru has re-wrote the Bhagavatams and does not promote Srila Prabhupada's. This is sort of what Radhanath does, he promotes his own books, and some of his programs do not display Srila Prabhupada's, at least according to reports.
http://store.bhagavatdharma.org/product/srimad-bhagavatam-15-vol-en/
[PADA: I think we are finally making some good progress figuring out Krishna Kirtan das (and ilk). First of all, he admits that the Dallas lawsuit reduced the ongoing molestation events (because hundreds of kids were pulled out of GBC's schools), and the suicide epidemic dropped almost to nil. And many other ex-kulis agree with him, these are the results of the DALLAS abuse lawsuit, including people like Jvalamukhi.
At the same time, Krishna Kirtan says the Dallas lawsuit should never have been done, which means self-evidently, he wanted the ongoing abuse and suicides to continue. OK that means he and the "Satanic" child abuser program are on the same basic page, they both have the same essential objectives and same results, since both wanted the ongoing abuse and suicides not to be halted -- the way the Dallas lawsuit did. Then these guys wonder why the victims of their ideology "have a bad attitude towards the religion"? Duh!
And at the same time, these Krishna Kirtan type guys have launched zero lawsuits -- or any other factual concrete programs to fix this mess -- nor have they shown anything of substance since 1977, so they wanted that the one Dallas action that partially fixed things -- to have never happened. Not sure who made Krishna Kirtan the "decider in chief" that children should be abused and die from suicide, and this process should not be halted apparently -- by anyone? As Sulochana said, they are tossing children into a wood chipper, and we need to keep that process ongoing?
Anyway, he admits that the Dallas lawsuit helped fix some of these ongoing abuse and suicide issues (or it did for at least for a large number of victims) but he (and the Satanists?) did not want that result, they did not even want the lawsuit to have happened, which means they wanted the evil process to continue ongoing. Or what?
Meanwhile, Krishna Kirtan's new hero messiah Krishna Balaram swami said he knew there were major "problems" in these GBC's schools and they thus needed to be SHUT DOWN, apparently even in the early 1980s. For that matter the official 2017 GBC report says there are still "troubles" in their schools and they should maybe be shut down NOW. Yet Krishna Balaram swami took no concrete steps to have these programs shut down that we know of.
That means these "troubles" have been KNOWN to have been going on all along, apparently up to right now, and apparently right under the nose of Krishna Balaram swami, who has been right there in Vrndavana. And Krishna Balaram swami even admits he KNOWS these gurukuli problems have been ongoing there, thus these schools needed to be SHUT down, so he knew -- more than most other people did. So he is a gate keeper for this crucial information, and yet he squashed it? Isn't this called covering up for crimes? Or what?
Yet neither Krishna Kirtan and / nor his messiah Krishna Balaram swami did anything of substance to deal with these issues, and they still have not. Where is their lawsuit or public protest of these issues? All they are doing is saying they need to shut down our protest of these evil things by stopping us, which makes them on the same page as Kirtanananda and Radhanath, who also wanted to stop us. Parrots? Birds of a feather?
Meanwhile, Krishna Kirtan is sort hijacking taking credit for helping Jvalamukhi, who was actually helped out of her Radhanath association by one of our direct PADA affiliates -- a lady who still calls us all the time, a lady who talked to me when she was at Jvalamukhi's house helping her by discussing the whole Radhanath process, and I was in the background advising the situation.
So PADA and our affiliates helped Jvalamukhi, and no credit is given? Worse, Krishna Kirtan is trying to make it sound like the kulis whom we have helped, like Jvalamukhi by our coaching, should not have been helped by us? At all? He wants people to suffer, be abused, and maybe die? He is thus part the cause of these victims "having a bad attitude," because he is as heartless as the GBC, or he is even worse than them, because at least some of them agree these kulis needed some assist from us.
So we should not have helped counsel victims AT ALL, great, then the Jvalamukhi sector cannot get our help. So, these guys want the victims to suffer and maybe even die? And if some of these folks commit suicide, so what? That is the best plan to fix things? As the Satanists want?
At the same time, Krishna Kirtan has said that us (and evidently all the ex-kulis like Jvalamukhi) are like "flies going for the stools" because she sympathizes with the Windle Turley case, and she said it helped suicidal people, and she was one of those people.
Yet Krishna Kirtan says he agrees with Radhanath's folks, we protesters need to be driven off the internet, because saving children from abuse and suicide is a horrible deviation. Well Radhanath's folks say the same EXACT thing, PADA needs to be shut down. Yep! They think alike, talk alike, act alike, because they are alike. Radhanath's people say something, Krishna Kirtan simply repeats what they say.
This is co-enabling child abuse and murder by doing this. Then, after these folks enable child abuse and murder by shutting down and demonizing the protesters, they wonder why their victims blame the religion?
Its simple for some folks to see -- ok like the police -- who told me, they understand why these folks demonize our protest, these folks want to get us killed, so the abuse party can go on unchecked. Radhanath party says we are notorious hateful spinners, which is how these guys have covered up their whole molesting program the whole time, they discredit the victims and us.
Krishna Kirtan is their gate keeper, he won't let anyone in to properly protest, he shuts that out, to keep the Satanic folks in power. He is their best defense system, and he has done a good job, his type of actions kept them in power all this time. Yep complaining of child molesting is "notorious spinning." Who knew?
Worse, Krishna Kirtan's mentor Krishna Balaram swami is simply a key part of the "conspiracy of silence" mentioned by a number of other ex-kuli victims. People like Krishna Balaram swami admit they knew, and they did not speak out properly. And now Krishna Kirtan is worshiping a ring leader in that conspiracy of silence process, leaders like Krishna Balaram swami.
Of course its worse than that, Krishna Balaram swami now says he is the next successor to Srila Prabhupada and Krishna, and so Krishna Kirtan supports these hokey Srila Prabhupada imitations and wanna be's, who are all part of the same GBC style scheme to replace Srila Prabhupada with self - appointed fools.
Srila Prabhupada said, this imitation of guru is "kill guru and become guru." And Krishna Kirtan is a card carrying supporter of that process. Then they come out and make pretend they are Srila Prabhupada's greatest defenders, when they fully support, and even worship these guru mara vidya fools. "Kill guru and become guru," and Krishna Kirtan is the biggest cheer leader of this program. And that is why shastra says, not only these guru killers go to hell, so do their supporters and cheer leaders i.e. himself.
Meanwhile Krishna Balaram swami says all the GBC's gurus and their followers are going to hell for their guru imitation, then he steps into their same boots and imitates his guru himself? He is doing what they are?
These guru killers are envious of the acharya, and that is also part of the Satanic movement Srila Prabhupada and later on Jvalamukhi have identified. So now Krishna Kirtan is further abusing children spiritually, by sending them off to worship another hokey messiah, which is ALSO what the GBC does. These imitation Jesus are cheating people and they are ALL directly promoting that deviation.
The only good news is that Srila Prabhupada says that these false acharyas are absorbing the sins of others, and this will cause them problems in this life, and then they will take these accumulated sins with them into the next. So they will pay for this cheating. Of course that means Krishna Kirtan is himself doing EXTREME violence to Krishna Balarama swami himself, by encouraging KB Swami that he is another Jesus who can take sins. He is leading his own guru on a death march to the lower planets, never mind mis-guiding his co-gurukuli pals. And of course we have to be stopped, because we say people need to worship Srila Prabhupada and not Krishna Kirtan's false messiah's project.
In this way Krishna Kirtan is even killing his own guru off by promoting this cheating, his guru will not be able to burn off these sins and it will take him down. Srila Prabhupada said we neophytes cannot take sins, it will cause us to get sick, fall down, or die, and of course "go to the most obnoxious regions" when this is all finished at the time of death. Krishna Kirtan is simply cheating his gurukuli friends, and sending his bogus guru packing off to the lowest regions. And then after he promotes this massive guru fraud, he says we are spinning things?
So Krishna Kirtan's first idea was to promote the acquiescing with bogus gurukula school fools like Krishna Balaram swami as his guru, never mind their criminal cover up process causes children to suffer, and maybe die. And now their new idea is to give these acquiescing fools the post of acharya, so they will suffer from taking sins, it seems they just want create more suffering, misery and death. No wonder they are against PADA, they are with the Satanic process wholesale, including hijacking the post meant for the pure devotee Srila Prabhupada.
These people are not Prabhupada's successors, especially when they are participants in the criminal conspiracy of silence to continue child abuse in the holy dham of Krishna. Krishna Balaram swami even wears a beard despite Srila Prabhupada says none of his disciple will ever wear a beard. And:
** The GBC buried Kirtanananda's carcass in Vrndavana right under KB swami's nose, but do we see KB swami out there making a public protest, or getting his followers to do so? Nope. Rather he says we are bogus ritviks, because we do not want to see these sexual predators buried in the holy dham under Radhanath's regime. Yep, we are bogus for protesting this defiling the holy dham and yet Krishna Balaram swami is a saint for having this odious affair going right on on his front doorstep, just like he had child abuse going on under his nose? Or what?
*** Does he public protest of the bogus schools there? Nope.
*** Or public protest of the molester messiahs guru line worshiped in the holy dham? Nope.
*** And KB swami is an India citizen, so he can file an FIR on some or all these things, does he ever do so? Does he try to organize the locals to take action? Not that we know of? Why is he acquiescing with all these deviations in the holy dham? Then you guys wonder why people get the wrong impression of ISKCON, when acquiescing with all these deviations is how ISKCON got a bad name from the get go.
Then Krishna Kirtan said, NONE of the other ex-kulis supports us. This is the worst lie we have heard in a long time, since ALL of the participants in the lawsuit are ALL ex-kulis. Krishna Kirtan even says they support him and not us, fine but he has no lawsuit for them to join? He has zero participants in zero legal effort to curb molesting. Zip. Nada. Zilch.
According to reports from ex-kulis themselves, over 1,000 wanted to join the Turley lawsuit and maybe even up to 2,000 would have signed on, but it was cut back for technical reasons. Krishna Kirtan means to say 1 - 2,000 people are "no one"? Lets just say, the average person understands that 1 - 2,000 people is NOT no one, only this smart guy does not know this.
Are we saying "no one" was abused? Or no one's abuse counts? Or these victims are no one in particular important? Why do these folks keep saying all victims are no one and nothing? That is how perps think, the victims are no one and nothing. Victims are no one? That is what mass murderers also say. Yes my victims are -- no one? These guys think like them, act like them, talk like them, because they are them. Yep no one agrees with PADA, ok well maybe a few thousand kulis, maybe a few thousand devotees, maybe a few million karmis, they are all no one?
Then, instead of saying that these problems should be stopped, Krishna Kirtan started crying, oh boo hoo the innocent people will have to pay for the lawsuit! You folks are not innocent people? The people who support child abuse regimes are not innocent people, why does Krishna Kirtan keep saying that they are? Maybe if you innocent folks have to pay money for making problems for others, you will wake up and stop doing that.
Now you are griping, well sure, we have a lot of dead bodies on the bumper of our army tank, but boo hoo, now we have to pay money for doing that? You are begrudging your regime's victims getting fifty cents? If the fire department breaks down the door of the burning house, to save the victim babies inside, who are dying, Krishna Kirtan is only worried about who will pay for the broken door? The babies can all die, that's fine, but "the poor innocents" will have to pay for the door? So, we are saving shekels and not people, which is exactly what probably a hundred ex-kulis have told me, these Krishna Kirtan guys wanted to save their ill gotten money, and NOT save us!
Yep, Jvalamukhi and others avoided suicide, they lived, and the Satanic think they all deserved to die. Who made them the executioner of all these hundreds of victimized children? Windle Turley wanted the ISKCON family members to live, the Satanic wanted their family members to die. Why do they want to kill their own family members?
And why do the "demon lawyers" have to save your family, from the hands of yourselves? A number of kulis told me the only reason they have faith in the religion AT ALL is because of folks like me and a few others sticking up for them. And Krishna Kirtan is against that, because he is part the reason the victims have a bad attitude in the first place, the Satanic want the victims to suffer abuse and die, they are the cause of the bad attitude.
To sum, the Windle Turley lawsuit was the best emergency option we had at the time, we had to break down the door and get the babies out of the burning building. We cannot save the burning building and the babies at the same time, nor did you guys save either. Anyway, I hope you guys saved enough of your stolen from Srila Prabhupada shekels to buy yourselves a new door, but even if you had a trillion dollars, you cannot un-victimize even one of your victims.
ys pd]
At the same time, Krishna Kirtan says the Dallas lawsuit should never have been done, which means self-evidently, he wanted the ongoing abuse and suicides to continue. OK that means he and the "Satanic" child abuser program are on the same basic page, they both have the same essential objectives and same results, since both wanted the ongoing abuse and suicides not to be halted -- the way the Dallas lawsuit did. Then these guys wonder why the victims of their ideology "have a bad attitude towards the religion"? Duh!
And at the same time, these Krishna Kirtan type guys have launched zero lawsuits -- or any other factual concrete programs to fix this mess -- nor have they shown anything of substance since 1977, so they wanted that the one Dallas action that partially fixed things -- to have never happened. Not sure who made Krishna Kirtan the "decider in chief" that children should be abused and die from suicide, and this process should not be halted apparently -- by anyone? As Sulochana said, they are tossing children into a wood chipper, and we need to keep that process ongoing?
Anyway, he admits that the Dallas lawsuit helped fix some of these ongoing abuse and suicide issues (or it did for at least for a large number of victims) but he (and the Satanists?) did not want that result, they did not even want the lawsuit to have happened, which means they wanted the evil process to continue ongoing. Or what?
Worship me!
Meanwhile, Krishna Kirtan's new hero messiah Krishna Balaram swami said he knew there were major "problems" in these GBC's schools and they thus needed to be SHUT DOWN, apparently even in the early 1980s. For that matter the official 2017 GBC report says there are still "troubles" in their schools and they should maybe be shut down NOW. Yet Krishna Balaram swami took no concrete steps to have these programs shut down that we know of.
That means these "troubles" have been KNOWN to have been going on all along, apparently up to right now, and apparently right under the nose of Krishna Balaram swami, who has been right there in Vrndavana. And Krishna Balaram swami even admits he KNOWS these gurukuli problems have been ongoing there, thus these schools needed to be SHUT down, so he knew -- more than most other people did. So he is a gate keeper for this crucial information, and yet he squashed it? Isn't this called covering up for crimes? Or what?
Yet neither Krishna Kirtan and / nor his messiah Krishna Balaram swami did anything of substance to deal with these issues, and they still have not. Where is their lawsuit or public protest of these issues? All they are doing is saying they need to shut down our protest of these evil things by stopping us, which makes them on the same page as Kirtanananda and Radhanath, who also wanted to stop us. Parrots? Birds of a feather?
Meanwhile, Krishna Kirtan is sort hijacking taking credit for helping Jvalamukhi, who was actually helped out of her Radhanath association by one of our direct PADA affiliates -- a lady who still calls us all the time, a lady who talked to me when she was at Jvalamukhi's house helping her by discussing the whole Radhanath process, and I was in the background advising the situation.
So PADA and our affiliates helped Jvalamukhi, and no credit is given? Worse, Krishna Kirtan is trying to make it sound like the kulis whom we have helped, like Jvalamukhi by our coaching, should not have been helped by us? At all? He wants people to suffer, be abused, and maybe die? He is thus part the cause of these victims "having a bad attitude," because he is as heartless as the GBC, or he is even worse than them, because at least some of them agree these kulis needed some assist from us.
So we should not have helped counsel victims AT ALL, great, then the Jvalamukhi sector cannot get our help. So, these guys want the victims to suffer and maybe even die? And if some of these folks commit suicide, so what? That is the best plan to fix things? As the Satanists want?
At the same time, Krishna Kirtan has said that us (and evidently all the ex-kulis like Jvalamukhi) are like "flies going for the stools" because she sympathizes with the Windle Turley case, and she said it helped suicidal people, and she was one of those people.
Yet Krishna Kirtan says he agrees with Radhanath's folks, we protesters need to be driven off the internet, because saving children from abuse and suicide is a horrible deviation. Well Radhanath's folks say the same EXACT thing, PADA needs to be shut down. Yep! They think alike, talk alike, act alike, because they are alike. Radhanath's people say something, Krishna Kirtan simply repeats what they say.
This is co-enabling child abuse and murder by doing this. Then, after these folks enable child abuse and murder by shutting down and demonizing the protesters, they wonder why their victims blame the religion?
Its simple for some folks to see -- ok like the police -- who told me, they understand why these folks demonize our protest, these folks want to get us killed, so the abuse party can go on unchecked. Radhanath party says we are notorious hateful spinners, which is how these guys have covered up their whole molesting program the whole time, they discredit the victims and us.
Krishna Kirtan is their gate keeper, he won't let anyone in to properly protest, he shuts that out, to keep the Satanic folks in power. He is their best defense system, and he has done a good job, his type of actions kept them in power all this time. Yep complaining of child molesting is "notorious spinning." Who knew?
Worse, Krishna Kirtan's mentor Krishna Balaram swami is simply a key part of the "conspiracy of silence" mentioned by a number of other ex-kuli victims. People like Krishna Balaram swami admit they knew, and they did not speak out properly. And now Krishna Kirtan is worshiping a ring leader in that conspiracy of silence process, leaders like Krishna Balaram swami.
Of course its worse than that, Krishna Balaram swami now says he is the next successor to Srila Prabhupada and Krishna, and so Krishna Kirtan supports these hokey Srila Prabhupada imitations and wanna be's, who are all part of the same GBC style scheme to replace Srila Prabhupada with self - appointed fools.
Srila Prabhupada said, this imitation of guru is "kill guru and become guru." And Krishna Kirtan is a card carrying supporter of that process. Then they come out and make pretend they are Srila Prabhupada's greatest defenders, when they fully support, and even worship these guru mara vidya fools. "Kill guru and become guru," and Krishna Kirtan is the biggest cheer leader of this program. And that is why shastra says, not only these guru killers go to hell, so do their supporters and cheer leaders i.e. himself.
Yes, I am the eternal acharya jagat master, any questions?
Meanwhile Krishna Balaram swami says all the GBC's gurus and their followers are going to hell for their guru imitation, then he steps into their same boots and imitates his guru himself? He is doing what they are?
These guru killers are envious of the acharya, and that is also part of the Satanic movement Srila Prabhupada and later on Jvalamukhi have identified. So now Krishna Kirtan is further abusing children spiritually, by sending them off to worship another hokey messiah, which is ALSO what the GBC does. These imitation Jesus are cheating people and they are ALL directly promoting that deviation.
The only good news is that Srila Prabhupada says that these false acharyas are absorbing the sins of others, and this will cause them problems in this life, and then they will take these accumulated sins with them into the next. So they will pay for this cheating. Of course that means Krishna Kirtan is himself doing EXTREME violence to Krishna Balarama swami himself, by encouraging KB Swami that he is another Jesus who can take sins. He is leading his own guru on a death march to the lower planets, never mind mis-guiding his co-gurukuli pals. And of course we have to be stopped, because we say people need to worship Srila Prabhupada and not Krishna Kirtan's false messiah's project.
In this way Krishna Kirtan is even killing his own guru off by promoting this cheating, his guru will not be able to burn off these sins and it will take him down. Srila Prabhupada said we neophytes cannot take sins, it will cause us to get sick, fall down, or die, and of course "go to the most obnoxious regions" when this is all finished at the time of death. Krishna Kirtan is simply cheating his gurukuli friends, and sending his bogus guru packing off to the lowest regions. And then after he promotes this massive guru fraud, he says we are spinning things?
So Krishna Kirtan's first idea was to promote the acquiescing with bogus gurukula school fools like Krishna Balaram swami as his guru, never mind their criminal cover up process causes children to suffer, and maybe die. And now their new idea is to give these acquiescing fools the post of acharya, so they will suffer from taking sins, it seems they just want create more suffering, misery and death. No wonder they are against PADA, they are with the Satanic process wholesale, including hijacking the post meant for the pure devotee Srila Prabhupada.
These people are not Prabhupada's successors, especially when they are participants in the criminal conspiracy of silence to continue child abuse in the holy dham of Krishna. Krishna Balaram swami even wears a beard despite Srila Prabhupada says none of his disciple will ever wear a beard. And:
** The GBC buried Kirtanananda's carcass in Vrndavana right under KB swami's nose, but do we see KB swami out there making a public protest, or getting his followers to do so? Nope. Rather he says we are bogus ritviks, because we do not want to see these sexual predators buried in the holy dham under Radhanath's regime. Yep, we are bogus for protesting this defiling the holy dham and yet Krishna Balaram swami is a saint for having this odious affair going right on on his front doorstep, just like he had child abuse going on under his nose? Or what?
*** Does he public protest of the bogus schools there? Nope.
*** Or public protest of the molester messiahs guru line worshiped in the holy dham? Nope.
*** And KB swami is an India citizen, so he can file an FIR on some or all these things, does he ever do so? Does he try to organize the locals to take action? Not that we know of? Why is he acquiescing with all these deviations in the holy dham? Then you guys wonder why people get the wrong impression of ISKCON, when acquiescing with all these deviations is how ISKCON got a bad name from the get go.
Then Krishna Kirtan said, NONE of the other ex-kulis supports us. This is the worst lie we have heard in a long time, since ALL of the participants in the lawsuit are ALL ex-kulis. Krishna Kirtan even says they support him and not us, fine but he has no lawsuit for them to join? He has zero participants in zero legal effort to curb molesting. Zip. Nada. Zilch.
According to reports from ex-kulis themselves, over 1,000 wanted to join the Turley lawsuit and maybe even up to 2,000 would have signed on, but it was cut back for technical reasons. Krishna Kirtan means to say 1 - 2,000 people are "no one"? Lets just say, the average person understands that 1 - 2,000 people is NOT no one, only this smart guy does not know this.
Are we saying "no one" was abused? Or no one's abuse counts? Or these victims are no one in particular important? Why do these folks keep saying all victims are no one and nothing? That is how perps think, the victims are no one and nothing. Victims are no one? That is what mass murderers also say. Yes my victims are -- no one? These guys think like them, act like them, talk like them, because they are them. Yep no one agrees with PADA, ok well maybe a few thousand kulis, maybe a few thousand devotees, maybe a few million karmis, they are all no one?
Then, instead of saying that these problems should be stopped, Krishna Kirtan started crying, oh boo hoo the innocent people will have to pay for the lawsuit! You folks are not innocent people? The people who support child abuse regimes are not innocent people, why does Krishna Kirtan keep saying that they are? Maybe if you innocent folks have to pay money for making problems for others, you will wake up and stop doing that.
Now you are griping, well sure, we have a lot of dead bodies on the bumper of our army tank, but boo hoo, now we have to pay money for doing that? You are begrudging your regime's victims getting fifty cents? If the fire department breaks down the door of the burning house, to save the victim babies inside, who are dying, Krishna Kirtan is only worried about who will pay for the broken door? The babies can all die, that's fine, but "the poor innocents" will have to pay for the door? So, we are saving shekels and not people, which is exactly what probably a hundred ex-kulis have told me, these Krishna Kirtan guys wanted to save their ill gotten money, and NOT save us!
Save the door, not the babies inside?
Yep, Jvalamukhi and others avoided suicide, they lived, and the Satanic think they all deserved to die. Who made them the executioner of all these hundreds of victimized children? Windle Turley wanted the ISKCON family members to live, the Satanic wanted their family members to die. Why do they want to kill their own family members?
And why do the "demon lawyers" have to save your family, from the hands of yourselves? A number of kulis told me the only reason they have faith in the religion AT ALL is because of folks like me and a few others sticking up for them. And Krishna Kirtan is against that, because he is part the reason the victims have a bad attitude in the first place, the Satanic want the victims to suffer abuse and die, they are the cause of the bad attitude.
To sum, the Windle Turley lawsuit was the best emergency option we had at the time, we had to break down the door and get the babies out of the burning building. We cannot save the burning building and the babies at the same time, nor did you guys save either. Anyway, I hope you guys saved enough of your stolen from Srila Prabhupada shekels to buy yourselves a new door, but even if you had a trillion dollars, you cannot un-victimize even one of your victims.
ys pd]
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Jvalamukhi Kopecka: As far as what I expected from Radhanath Swami when I approached him .... I thought, here is this pure devotee, so concerned, humble, and eager to serve. He has so much sway with his God brothers and in the society. Surely when he finds out about the Satanic Ritual Abuse in our society to our children, myself included, he will immediately do something just like our SP would have.
What I didn't know at the time was that he was their leader.
[PADA: These people are the bravest people in ISKCON today, they need to be supported and helped, we gave them a voice all along, and we are going to continue to do that no matter what. No wonder Krishna Kirtan wants to silence us, we are giving folks a platform to speak and he wants to SHUT THAT DOWN. So does the Radhanath process! These false gurus and their fanatics have given us grief all along, because they are not happy to see we are getting people to worship the pure devotee and not THEM! ys pd]
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Tuesday, April 18, 2017
Monday, April 17, 2017
Gaurahari Das (Update)
[PADA: I like this one, honest! Willaim Zodda aka Gaurahari dasa was at one time: A Tamal disciple; A ritvik devotee; A Narayana Maharaja devotee (until NM told his wife to leave him and he called NM a wife kidnapper?); Back to being a ritvik; Then being a sort of diksha guru with a couple of disciples -- or maybe not; Back to being a Rasika devotee; Then A promoter of Radhanath swami; Then a full blown born again Christian -- who said Vaishnavas are offenders and we better all read the Bible; Maybe now, back to being a Rasika devotee again, who dances to contemporary music?; OK maybe we got the order mixed up, who can say? And who knows what he was else in between?
I think there is some desire to love and serve Krishna in the mix here, somewhere, but this is apparently why -- its not a good idea to listen to too many various authorities, or as Srila Saraswati says "not too read too many (diverse siddhanta) books." A person's brain might become many branched, as the Gita says. Hee hee, no kidding!
Anyway, this is what happens when a person goes into the many branched zone, the only good news its, its looks harmless and sort of funny. We wish him well, but sad to say, there are a lot of half baked many branched people out there and we hope Krishna gives them some mercy for at least having Krishna as part of the mix of their consciousness -- somewhere.
At the same time, he is a full ton and a half better than say for example Jayapataka, who is like the poster child and Krishna's personal "Monkey on a Stick" warning about as to why we should not think we can absorb sins like Jesus. We cannot. Even Gaurahari is WAY better than that lot.
Good luck Gaurahari, you are on the road to Krishna --- sort of, ok maybe at least you are somewhere on one of the roads that leads to the road to Krishna. Hee hee! ys pd
No Love for Krishna This is Your Destiny Again & Again from William Zodda on Vimeo.I think there is some desire to love and serve Krishna in the mix here, somewhere, but this is apparently why -- its not a good idea to listen to too many various authorities, or as Srila Saraswati says "not too read too many (diverse siddhanta) books." A person's brain might become many branched, as the Gita says. Hee hee, no kidding!
Anyway, this is what happens when a person goes into the many branched zone, the only good news its, its looks harmless and sort of funny. We wish him well, but sad to say, there are a lot of half baked many branched people out there and we hope Krishna gives them some mercy for at least having Krishna as part of the mix of their consciousness -- somewhere.
At the same time, he is a full ton and a half better than say for example Jayapataka, who is like the poster child and Krishna's personal "Monkey on a Stick" warning about as to why we should not think we can absorb sins like Jesus. We cannot. Even Gaurahari is WAY better than that lot.
Good luck Gaurahari, you are on the road to Krishna --- sort of, ok maybe at least you are somewhere on one of the roads that leads to the road to Krishna. Hee hee! ys pd
Sunday, April 16, 2017
Jvalamukhi's testimonial re: Radhanatha Swami
https://www.facebook.com/jahnavi.kopecka/videos/10155254625027269/
[PADA: How come Radhanath Swami was made an acharya by the GBC, after it was well known he was the second in command to Kirtanananda? And that Kirtanananda was implicated in being a sexual predator? And some former New Vrndavana people say Radhanath was involved in the assassination of Sulochana, if for no other reason that he was saying Kirtanananda is a pure devotee (and its offensive to complain about such souls). And worse, Radhanath buried the carcass of Kirtanananda in the holy dham, making an offense to all of the victims of ISKCON and especially the New Vrndavana regime's victims? And did not people notice that New Vrndavana was a big part of the $400,000,000 abuse lawsuit?
Did we forget to mention the FEDERAL MARSHALS raided New Vrndavana and found all sorts of crimes were going on? And as Jvalamukhi says herein, there is a lot more stuff than that ... !!!
And why were our children made to believe that Radhanath was an acharya by many of the leaders, parents and other adults? In any case, its good that people are waking up, albeit slow but sure. PADA would say, this is partly (or largely?) due to propaganda from these leaders, adults and often, the parents of the society.
Often, the leaders and parents lead the children off to the GBC's gurus; Or gave them off to the Gaudiya Matha's gurus; Or gave them off to other assorted authorities like the GBC's who are connected with the Radha Kunda babajis and in short, they did not give these children the full shelter of the pure devotee Srila Prabhupada.
Anyway, she says we should inspire others to speak out, and hopefully her video will do so. All glories to Srila Prabhupada, he will eventually re-emerge as the acharya of his own mission after the dust settles on all these issues. Good on ya Jvalamukhi dasi, you are a brave and sincere soul. You have more guts, courage and sincerity than 10,000 of the sycophant GBC's lap dog "kshatriyas" put together. Bravo! ys pd]
[PADA: How come Radhanath Swami was made an acharya by the GBC, after it was well known he was the second in command to Kirtanananda? And that Kirtanananda was implicated in being a sexual predator? And some former New Vrndavana people say Radhanath was involved in the assassination of Sulochana, if for no other reason that he was saying Kirtanananda is a pure devotee (and its offensive to complain about such souls). And worse, Radhanath buried the carcass of Kirtanananda in the holy dham, making an offense to all of the victims of ISKCON and especially the New Vrndavana regime's victims? And did not people notice that New Vrndavana was a big part of the $400,000,000 abuse lawsuit?
Did we forget to mention the FEDERAL MARSHALS raided New Vrndavana and found all sorts of crimes were going on? And as Jvalamukhi says herein, there is a lot more stuff than that ... !!!
And why were our children made to believe that Radhanath was an acharya by many of the leaders, parents and other adults? In any case, its good that people are waking up, albeit slow but sure. PADA would say, this is partly (or largely?) due to propaganda from these leaders, adults and often, the parents of the society.
Often, the leaders and parents lead the children off to the GBC's gurus; Or gave them off to the Gaudiya Matha's gurus; Or gave them off to other assorted authorities like the GBC's who are connected with the Radha Kunda babajis and in short, they did not give these children the full shelter of the pure devotee Srila Prabhupada.
Anyway, she says we should inspire others to speak out, and hopefully her video will do so. All glories to Srila Prabhupada, he will eventually re-emerge as the acharya of his own mission after the dust settles on all these issues. Good on ya Jvalamukhi dasi, you are a brave and sincere soul. You have more guts, courage and sincerity than 10,000 of the sycophant GBC's lap dog "kshatriyas" put together. Bravo! ys pd]
BV Narayana Maharaja: Brahmanas must be boycotted?
Hanging out with Tamal, founder of the illicit sex guru program.
Brahmanas should be avoided?
Srila Bhaktivedanta Narayana Goswami Maharaja on the subject of Ritvik.
"Fallen gurus are now becoming ritviks. You should do pranama to them from very far away. Don't mix with them, and always boycott them…." (July 30, 2000)
[PADA: OK wait a minute, where did all these fallen gurus come from? Narayana Maharaja was one of the persons who said Tamal's GBC's are diksha gurus (not ritviks), then they fell. He is the person who co-created the fallen diksha guru imbroglio. And! Why did Narayana Maharaja help Satsvarupa write the "Guru Reform Notebook," claiming that gurus deviate -- and then they have to be reformed? And why was NM giving "rasika" classes to these same people who were establishing that the parampara deviates and needs to be reformed? And why does NM think the GBC can "guru reform" an acharya in the first place?
Anyway! Suppose some of these fallen people NOW try to become more honest, and they want to try and become some sort of lesser category than diksha gurus, ok maybe "priests," and they will drop their false diksha guru title and -- we should not allow that? We should avoid them? That means -- they should not drop down to a more honest lower post, they should continue to cheat people that they are full scale diksha gurus, the program NM supported along with Tamal?
NM said we cannot designate these GBC people as ritviks, they have to keep the diksha guru title. That is what NM said all along, they cannot change their diksha guru designation to minor league priests. Why not? Why not encourage honesty?
Sridhara Maharaja also writes that acharyas sometimes "go mad" after money, women and followers, and Narayana Maharaja says Sridhara Maharaja is a great acharya -- because he thinks acharyas are maybe falling and debauchees? Shouldn't we boycott the people who say acharyas are perhaps mad fools -- who chase the skirts of women, take intoxicants, and sometimes fall into -- eating chicken salads? So NM says our folks have to be avoided because we say acharyas are pure, and we need to promote Sridhara Maharaja, because he says acharyas are maybe sexual predators and mad fools?
In sum, we should avoid brahmanas, who are presenting Srila Prabhupada as the acharya, and we should promote Sridhara Maharaja, because he says acharyas are many times mad fools and debauchees. Why should we promote the idea that acharyas are often fallen debauchees, and avoid the people who say the parampara is pure?
And! If they were all along only qualified to be priests at best, why should we not encourage them to step down from their fake diksha guru platform and take the level they are actually at, such as maybe a priest? The cheating must continue?
If they are cheating to be uttama gurus, that is fine, because NM has supported the GBC while they did that, but if they try to take a lower post, that is forbidden? Or? Sridhara Maharaja is correct, acharyas are falling? Or? Are we right, the people who fall are at best aspiring to be priests, they never were acharyas?
The cheating has to continue?
Why should we allow people to continue to cheat that they are diksha gurus? This makes no sense? Let them move down to their proper adhikara, why should we avoid them and attack them when they try to make a more honest situation? Anyway, this is what happened, Sridhara and Narayana Maharaja said that Tamal and his pals are diksha gurus, and they should not move down to a lesser level designations, and this created this atmosphere of cheating.]
"In our line there is guru, there is siksa guru, there is caitya guru, there is sravana guru, there is patha pradarsaka guru - so many gurus. Why go to these bogus ritvics? Be very far away from them. Be careful about them. We should be very careful about mayavadis, sahajiyas, and all nirvesesavadis…" (July 30, 2000)
Anyway! Suppose some of these fallen people NOW try to become more honest, and they want to try and become some sort of lesser category than diksha gurus, ok maybe "priests," and they will drop their false diksha guru title and -- we should not allow that? We should avoid them? That means -- they should not drop down to a more honest lower post, they should continue to cheat people that they are full scale diksha gurus, the program NM supported along with Tamal?
NM said we cannot designate these GBC people as ritviks, they have to keep the diksha guru title. That is what NM said all along, they cannot change their diksha guru designation to minor league priests. Why not? Why not encourage honesty?
Sridhara Maharaja also writes that acharyas sometimes "go mad" after money, women and followers, and Narayana Maharaja says Sridhara Maharaja is a great acharya -- because he thinks acharyas are maybe falling and debauchees? Shouldn't we boycott the people who say acharyas are perhaps mad fools -- who chase the skirts of women, take intoxicants, and sometimes fall into -- eating chicken salads? So NM says our folks have to be avoided because we say acharyas are pure, and we need to promote Sridhara Maharaja, because he says acharyas are maybe sexual predators and mad fools?
In sum, we should avoid brahmanas, who are presenting Srila Prabhupada as the acharya, and we should promote Sridhara Maharaja, because he says acharyas are many times mad fools and debauchees. Why should we promote the idea that acharyas are often fallen debauchees, and avoid the people who say the parampara is pure?
And! If they were all along only qualified to be priests at best, why should we not encourage them to step down from their fake diksha guru platform and take the level they are actually at, such as maybe a priest? The cheating must continue?
If they are cheating to be uttama gurus, that is fine, because NM has supported the GBC while they did that, but if they try to take a lower post, that is forbidden? Or? Sridhara Maharaja is correct, acharyas are falling? Or? Are we right, the people who fall are at best aspiring to be priests, they never were acharyas?
The cheating has to continue?
Why should we allow people to continue to cheat that they are diksha gurus? This makes no sense? Let them move down to their proper adhikara, why should we avoid them and attack them when they try to make a more honest situation? Anyway, this is what happened, Sridhara and Narayana Maharaja said that Tamal and his pals are diksha gurus, and they should not move down to a lesser level designations, and this created this atmosphere of cheating.]
"In our line there is guru, there is siksa guru, there is caitya guru, there is sravana guru, there is patha pradarsaka guru - so many gurus. Why go to these bogus ritvics? Be very far away from them. Be careful about them. We should be very careful about mayavadis, sahajiyas, and all nirvesesavadis…" (July 30, 2000)
[PADA: OK so now NM says that the brahmanas, aka the ritviks, cannot act as shiksha gurus. Krishna, on the other hand, says the brahmanas (ritviks) should preach to the other classes of the society. Why does Narayana Maharaja say that the brahmana / ritvik class of devotees are bogus -- at all?
Where does Krishna say, the brahmanas / aka ritviks are a bogus class, avoid them? Sudama was a brahmana and Krishna was very friendly with him, even Krishna does not avoid the brahmanas, only NM says we should distance ourselves from the brahmana / ritviks? Where in shastra does it say we have to avoid the preachers of the Krishna religion i.e. the brahmanas? As soon as we see Sudama brahmana, we avoid him and run away -- and maybe call him an offender?
And Srila Prabhupada says moreover that is the duty of a brahmana / ritvik to preach to the conditioned souls. NM says, that is bogus, a brahmana cannot act as a shiksha guru, a patha pradarsaka guru etc., but that is the whole purpose of being a brahmana, to teach the society (and act as a shiksha guru). Does NM have any clue what is the actual duty of a brahmana?
A brahmana should not act as a shiksha guru?
That will stop the preaching wholesale!
How will the preaching go on if none of the priests can preach? On the other hand, NM supported the GBC's idea, less than brahmanas can be worshiped as uttama diksha gurus? So the less than brahmanas can pose as diksha gurus, but the actual brahmanas have to stop all their preaching, they cannot give any shiksha teaching to others. How will the Vaishnava society function if the preaching class is ordered to stop preaching?]
"At present, real gurus are very rare, and the number of fallen ritviks are now growing."
Where does Krishna say, the brahmanas / aka ritviks are a bogus class, avoid them? Sudama was a brahmana and Krishna was very friendly with him, even Krishna does not avoid the brahmanas, only NM says we should distance ourselves from the brahmana / ritviks? Where in shastra does it say we have to avoid the preachers of the Krishna religion i.e. the brahmanas? As soon as we see Sudama brahmana, we avoid him and run away -- and maybe call him an offender?
And Srila Prabhupada says moreover that is the duty of a brahmana / ritvik to preach to the conditioned souls. NM says, that is bogus, a brahmana cannot act as a shiksha guru, a patha pradarsaka guru etc., but that is the whole purpose of being a brahmana, to teach the society (and act as a shiksha guru). Does NM have any clue what is the actual duty of a brahmana?
A brahmana should not act as a shiksha guru?
That will stop the preaching wholesale!
How will the preaching go on if none of the priests can preach? On the other hand, NM supported the GBC's idea, less than brahmanas can be worshiped as uttama diksha gurus? So the less than brahmanas can pose as diksha gurus, but the actual brahmanas have to stop all their preaching, they cannot give any shiksha teaching to others. How will the Vaishnava society function if the preaching class is ordered to stop preaching?]
"At present, real gurus are very rare, and the number of fallen ritviks are now growing."
[PADA: But NM said the GBC's falling people are not ritviks, they are diksha gurus? Now he says, they were ritviks all along? No, NM said they cannot use the title of ritviks, he said these falling GBC people are diksha gurus, and he helped Tamal and SDG write up the Guru Reform program. There are no falling ritviks because they were designated as diksha gurus all along by NM and the GBC he supported.
What happened is, NM said that the GBC are diksha gurus, not ritviks, and so they started falling left, right and center, and the number of his fallen diksha gurus is growing. Right! So why did he say they are diksha gurus in the first place? A priest can fall down, a diksha guru does not? Anyway, where are all these fallen ritviks, he never says? No, NM said they are diksha gurus, then they fell, that is what happened here.]
What happened is, NM said that the GBC are diksha gurus, not ritviks, and so they started falling left, right and center, and the number of his fallen diksha gurus is growing. Right! So why did he say they are diksha gurus in the first place? A priest can fall down, a diksha guru does not? Anyway, where are all these fallen ritviks, he never says? No, NM said they are diksha gurus, then they fell, that is what happened here.]
They are doing bogus things, and you should not have any belief in them. Remain far away and careful to guard against these animal creatures. They don't know the meaning of guru-tattva. They were cheating before and now they want to cheat in this way, and therefore they are cheating themselves and others. Be very far away from them." (Apr 17, 2001)
[PADA: OK Narayana Maharaja is the person who supported Tamal, Satsvarupa, Indradyumna, Sivarama and all the rest of them as diksha gurus, and he was giving them rasika classes while they were propping up sexual predators as their acharyas. Now he says, this was all cheating. So, why was he cheating everyone by claiming these people are diksha gurus in the first place?
And if they are animals, why did he say these animals could be diksha gurus in the first place? And why does NM think the solution to his promoting Tamal and the false diksha gurus program is now to say, brahmanas are bogus and we should not have any brahmanas -- preaching on behalf of Krishna, giving shiksha? This makes no sense?
Anyway, the problems in the NM camp are growing, Prem Prayojana is being criticized for being a sahajiya because he is allegedly favorable to some of the babaji's preaching. He is also being attacked for being a fallen sannyasa, and NM apparently said only sannyasa could be his diksha successors, so Prem Prayojana is a target for the sannyasa clique, and we even heard there were death threats in their camp against him. Then we have their one sannyasa / diksha guru who is allegedly having an affair, and no one can dispute this because "his followers will beat you with sticks."
Meanwhile Prem got very sick, and how did you guess, some folks said he has "taken their karma" and this made him get sick. OK but he is not supposed to take their karma! Why didn't NM tell his clan these basic things? And one of their leaders is sort of giving diksha on behalf of NM, acting as a de facto ritvik, he understands the karma thing, but he does not know that NM is not a liberated person so he is not going to take the karma either. Meanwhile he is being attacked as a bogus ritvik, .... because he understands he cannot take karma. So anyone who understands a few basic ideas, is attacked as a fool.
And then again some NM folks are promoting other living gurus in India who are not even part of the NM program, so its sort of scattering. In any case, NM saying that brahmanas cannot act as shiksha gurus shows total ignorance of the Vedic principles, the brahmanas have A DUTY to act as shiksha gurus and preach to the innocent class. Why doesn't NM even understand the basics of the religion? Even the Christians know, the priest has to preach on behalf of Jesus, and give shiksha to others, even they know that is the duty of a priest more than NM does. Anyway, this shows how Srila Prabhupada was right when he said, do not listen to my God brothers, they will simply create confusion. ys pd]
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And if they are animals, why did he say these animals could be diksha gurus in the first place? And why does NM think the solution to his promoting Tamal and the false diksha gurus program is now to say, brahmanas are bogus and we should not have any brahmanas -- preaching on behalf of Krishna, giving shiksha? This makes no sense?
Anyway, the problems in the NM camp are growing, Prem Prayojana is being criticized for being a sahajiya because he is allegedly favorable to some of the babaji's preaching. He is also being attacked for being a fallen sannyasa, and NM apparently said only sannyasa could be his diksha successors, so Prem Prayojana is a target for the sannyasa clique, and we even heard there were death threats in their camp against him. Then we have their one sannyasa / diksha guru who is allegedly having an affair, and no one can dispute this because "his followers will beat you with sticks."
Meanwhile Prem got very sick, and how did you guess, some folks said he has "taken their karma" and this made him get sick. OK but he is not supposed to take their karma! Why didn't NM tell his clan these basic things? And one of their leaders is sort of giving diksha on behalf of NM, acting as a de facto ritvik, he understands the karma thing, but he does not know that NM is not a liberated person so he is not going to take the karma either. Meanwhile he is being attacked as a bogus ritvik, .... because he understands he cannot take karma. So anyone who understands a few basic ideas, is attacked as a fool.
And then again some NM folks are promoting other living gurus in India who are not even part of the NM program, so its sort of scattering. In any case, NM saying that brahmanas cannot act as shiksha gurus shows total ignorance of the Vedic principles, the brahmanas have A DUTY to act as shiksha gurus and preach to the innocent class. Why doesn't NM even understand the basics of the religion? Even the Christians know, the priest has to preach on behalf of Jesus, and give shiksha to others, even they know that is the duty of a priest more than NM does. Anyway, this shows how Srila Prabhupada was right when he said, do not listen to my God brothers, they will simply create confusion. ys pd]
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Saturday, April 15, 2017
Radha Madhava Das Rejects Radhanath Swami
Radha Madhava Dasa:
In 2007 I was one time riding in a car with Radhanath Swami. I was at the time his close disciple and figured I should take the opportunity to ask him important questions. My mother is a Srila Prabhupada disciple and when she found her favorite verse in Bhagavad-Gita had been changed, she approached Ravindra Swarupa the GBC where she was. He said "Oh yes, the GBC approached me to edit it. I didn't feel qualified so I gave it to Jayadvaita as he was the closest thing I knew to a fundamentalist and I figured he wouldn't change anything."
In 2007 I was one time riding in a car with Radhanath Swami. I was at the time his close disciple and figured I should take the opportunity to ask him important questions. My mother is a Srila Prabhupada disciple and when she found her favorite verse in Bhagavad-Gita had been changed, she approached Ravindra Swarupa the GBC where she was. He said "Oh yes, the GBC approached me to edit it. I didn't feel qualified so I gave it to Jayadvaita as he was the closest thing I knew to a fundamentalist and I figured he wouldn't change anything."
My mother Maralee Mrgaksi Ash was livid, "You did WHAT to our spiritual masters books?" - that was in 1996. In 2007 my brother-in-law was working as the copyrights officer for the BBTI - and would give their arguments from "BBT Edit" etc. on why the edits were bona fide. So hearing both sides of this debate - whether changes to Srila Prabhupada's books were bona fide or not - I thought to ask Radhanath Swami his opinion.
He saw that I was leaning more towards the "no-changes" position, and so he said that I should have a balanced perspective and hear from both sides - that Jayadvaita has a clean public record - intimating that his detractors may not - and that he trusted him. He said that the BBTI was trustworthy because they wouldn't change even reasonable things like "women are less intelligent" - Radhanath Swami was part of a proposal to change all instances of "women are less intelligent" to be more politically correct.
He saw that I was leaning more towards the "no-changes" position, and so he said that I should have a balanced perspective and hear from both sides - that Jayadvaita has a clean public record - intimating that his detractors may not - and that he trusted him. He said that the BBTI was trustworthy because they wouldn't change even reasonable things like "women are less intelligent" - Radhanath Swami was part of a proposal to change all instances of "women are less intelligent" to be more politically correct.
He said that in seeking to get his own biography published he was dealing with an editor from Penguin Publishing (a prominent publisher) and by reading his book she became vegetarian and started chanting Hare Krishna. Then someone gave her Srila Prabhupada's Bhagavad-Gita As It Is and she came across the part where it says "women are less intelligent" and she closed the book and told Radhanath Swami that "Your Guru is a sexist" and gave up the practices she had taken up.
Radhanath Swami then went on to say that he felt in his heart that Srila Prabhupada would change the way he said things so as not to put off "good quality people" like this woman. He said that things like "women are less intelligent" are temporary material considerations that could be said differently to attract more followers. And this was his evidence that the BBTI was trustworthy to not change Srila Prabhupada's books because they would not accept such a sound and reasonable change as he was suggesting.
I thought of my mother who when she first came across the "women are less intelligent" part in Nectar of Devotion, became so furious that she threw the book across the room - then she thought "that was silly - in the paragraph before that he said that we are not these bodies - so if I am upset that women are less intelligent, I'm thinking that I'm a woman, which is really less intelligent." So she picked up the book, kept reading and became an initiated disciple of Srila Prabhupada. That was the most intelligent thing to do.
So after this exchange with Radhanath Swami, I started losing faith in him as my spiritual master - because he didn't know what to do or what not to do - his motives were for fame and influence - he felt his own ideas superseded Srila Prabhupada's words - he felt he is better than Srila Prabhupada - and so had the nerve to propose editing his books to better suit his own agendas.
I thought of my mother who when she first came across the "women are less intelligent" part in Nectar of Devotion, became so furious that she threw the book across the room - then she thought "that was silly - in the paragraph before that he said that we are not these bodies - so if I am upset that women are less intelligent, I'm thinking that I'm a woman, which is really less intelligent." So she picked up the book, kept reading and became an initiated disciple of Srila Prabhupada. That was the most intelligent thing to do.
So after this exchange with Radhanath Swami, I started losing faith in him as my spiritual master - because he didn't know what to do or what not to do - his motives were for fame and influence - he felt his own ideas superseded Srila Prabhupada's words - he felt he is better than Srila Prabhupada - and so had the nerve to propose editing his books to better suit his own agendas.
When I was living in the Bhakti Center in NYC I was told by the management that they actively don't display or distribute Srila Prabhupada's books as they offend people who then go away. First they distribute Radhanath Swami's books and later, once people are ready, they may introduce Srila Prabhupada's books with apologetics for the controversial things he says.
"A guru who does not know what to do and what not to do, but by mistake, by mistakenly I have accepted somebody as guru, he can be rejected. By rejecting him, you can accept an actual bona fide guru." - Srila Prabhupada lecture August 5th 1973
The true disciple changes their own life to fit the order of the spiritual master - a false disciple changes the order of the spiritual master to fit their own life.
Later on Radhanath Swami defended a child abuser who preyed upon my family - as well as himself was confirmed by victims I know, to have been a sexual abuser to them when they were children as well. That put a lot of things in perspective which fit my experience. When others heard my experience they have said that their experiences and suspicions were also confirmed.
Due to fear of social repercussion I didn't let on my experience, but now I'm not afraid to share my story and to renounce any connection with Radhanath Swami. I have reverted back to my birth name Radha Madhava Dasa. I pray that others may benefit from my sharing and avoid his presence "as much as milk touched by the lips of a serpent causes poisonous effect."
There is much more to my experience and anyone can message me for more information. Anyone who feels uncomfortable with this can talk with me or other former disciples and verify for themselves. It's nothing to be ashamed of - to have been cheated is not a fault - rather those who cheat others must carry the shame.
Distinguishing truth from illusion is devotional service, however inconvenient it may be. I felt compelled to share this today as it perfectly fits what Swarup Hebel prabhu just shared and a following comment with Radhanath Swami's photo someone posted.
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Post by Swarup Hebel:
This is a rewrite of something I posted in the past:
Throughout the years I am noticing more and more an undercurrent of confusion, consternation and even criticism concerning some of the (so-called) controversial statements found in Srila Prabhupada's writings as well as in transcripts of classes and conversations. Let me say this about that.
The serious student of Krishna consciousness --- the genuine surrendered disciple or follower of Prabhupada -- is one who has reached a stage of feeling fed up with, disgusted and disillusioned with life in the material world. Sastra defines this as being materially exhausted. Such a person who is ready, willing and eager to render submissive aural reception will have no problem whatsoever with anything spoken or written by the authorized representative spiritual master who is disseminating knowledge of the absolute truth.
On the other hand the person who still loves the world and who continues to identify with the body may feel squeamish, offended, and bothered by certain statements about "delicate" issues. You'll hear those folks with their lukewarm faith saying:
"Oh, Prabhupada could not have meant that."
"It must be due to the culture he was coming from."
"We have to hide or change the words so they're palatable."
"This is not politically correct -- it will turn people off."
"Impossible! He couldn't have meant that. There's some mistake."
If you are looking for a warm fuzzy feeling and a philosophy that is politically correct and dripping with honey-combed sentiment then you're in the wrong shop, my friend. Try the market down the street.
Srila Prabhupada was not interested in being politically correct. He had no interest in watering down the truth or compromising. He could have set the bar low enough to attract large numbers of disciples and followers but he didn't do that. He set the standards very high and spoke the truth -- the absolute truth. If a person is not yet ready to accept it all that's alright. Take what you want and leave the rest but please don't cause a big uproar and turn his words into controversial discussions that go endlessly on and on.
Personally, I have been struggling for decades to grab onto that bar and I keep slipping ... falling on my face ... breaking every bone in my body. I rub chalk on my hands to get a firmer grip but I fall off again and again. So what shall I do? Should I lower the bar to make myself feel better? "Oh look -- I can do pull ups and chin ups. It's so easy." No! I don't want something cheap. I want the real thing. Let's keep it real and please let's not play fast and loose with the words spoken and written by His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada who came a long way and sacrificed everything fifty years ago to deliver the absolute truth, as it is.
[PADA: Its amazing that many people who have little or no respect for Srila Prabhupada or his books are propped up to the highest levels by the ISKCON GBC. Of course a devotee woman can be more intelligent than all these cracker jack acharyas like Radhanath. Many nice Prabhupadanuga women have rejected Radhanath and his changed books, they are more intelligent than he is. ys pd]
"A guru who does not know what to do and what not to do, but by mistake, by mistakenly I have accepted somebody as guru, he can be rejected. By rejecting him, you can accept an actual bona fide guru." - Srila Prabhupada lecture August 5th 1973
The true disciple changes their own life to fit the order of the spiritual master - a false disciple changes the order of the spiritual master to fit their own life.
Later on Radhanath Swami defended a child abuser who preyed upon my family - as well as himself was confirmed by victims I know, to have been a sexual abuser to them when they were children as well. That put a lot of things in perspective which fit my experience. When others heard my experience they have said that their experiences and suspicions were also confirmed.
Due to fear of social repercussion I didn't let on my experience, but now I'm not afraid to share my story and to renounce any connection with Radhanath Swami. I have reverted back to my birth name Radha Madhava Dasa. I pray that others may benefit from my sharing and avoid his presence "as much as milk touched by the lips of a serpent causes poisonous effect."
There is much more to my experience and anyone can message me for more information. Anyone who feels uncomfortable with this can talk with me or other former disciples and verify for themselves. It's nothing to be ashamed of - to have been cheated is not a fault - rather those who cheat others must carry the shame.
Distinguishing truth from illusion is devotional service, however inconvenient it may be. I felt compelled to share this today as it perfectly fits what Swarup Hebel prabhu just shared and a following comment with Radhanath Swami's photo someone posted.
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Post by Swarup Hebel:
This is a rewrite of something I posted in the past:
Throughout the years I am noticing more and more an undercurrent of confusion, consternation and even criticism concerning some of the (so-called) controversial statements found in Srila Prabhupada's writings as well as in transcripts of classes and conversations. Let me say this about that.
The serious student of Krishna consciousness --- the genuine surrendered disciple or follower of Prabhupada -- is one who has reached a stage of feeling fed up with, disgusted and disillusioned with life in the material world. Sastra defines this as being materially exhausted. Such a person who is ready, willing and eager to render submissive aural reception will have no problem whatsoever with anything spoken or written by the authorized representative spiritual master who is disseminating knowledge of the absolute truth.
On the other hand the person who still loves the world and who continues to identify with the body may feel squeamish, offended, and bothered by certain statements about "delicate" issues. You'll hear those folks with their lukewarm faith saying:
"Oh, Prabhupada could not have meant that."
"It must be due to the culture he was coming from."
"We have to hide or change the words so they're palatable."
"This is not politically correct -- it will turn people off."
"Impossible! He couldn't have meant that. There's some mistake."
If you are looking for a warm fuzzy feeling and a philosophy that is politically correct and dripping with honey-combed sentiment then you're in the wrong shop, my friend. Try the market down the street.
Srila Prabhupada was not interested in being politically correct. He had no interest in watering down the truth or compromising. He could have set the bar low enough to attract large numbers of disciples and followers but he didn't do that. He set the standards very high and spoke the truth -- the absolute truth. If a person is not yet ready to accept it all that's alright. Take what you want and leave the rest but please don't cause a big uproar and turn his words into controversial discussions that go endlessly on and on.
Personally, I have been struggling for decades to grab onto that bar and I keep slipping ... falling on my face ... breaking every bone in my body. I rub chalk on my hands to get a firmer grip but I fall off again and again. So what shall I do? Should I lower the bar to make myself feel better? "Oh look -- I can do pull ups and chin ups. It's so easy." No! I don't want something cheap. I want the real thing. Let's keep it real and please let's not play fast and loose with the words spoken and written by His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada who came a long way and sacrificed everything fifty years ago to deliver the absolute truth, as it is.
[PADA: Its amazing that many people who have little or no respect for Srila Prabhupada or his books are propped up to the highest levels by the ISKCON GBC. Of course a devotee woman can be more intelligent than all these cracker jack acharyas like Radhanath. Many nice Prabhupadanuga women have rejected Radhanath and his changed books, they are more intelligent than he is. ys pd]
Easter Prayer from Surabhi Dasi
Dear Heavenly Father, I beg you to please open your arms to the world, please forgive all as we are all merely your children lost in darkness trying our best to find your hand.
Many have and are suffering by the hands of those pretending to be saintly. These persons are dressed in traditional saintly attire and are well versed in your holy doctrines, yet they use this position for evil intent. Many are lead astray due to flowery words, promises or even by fear mongering.
Many find themselves trapped in so called 'spiritual' institutions that promote misogyny, abuse, rape, stealing, lies, molestation, pedophilia, greed, blasphemous criticism of others and of others faiths and cheating the innocent. Dear Lord, please be merciful unto these persons, they are blinded by their own inner demons which are using them to hurt and destroy others.
Please dearest Lord, help them see the evil in their ways, help them understand the pain and hurt they have caused others and most importantly I beg You to forgive and embrace them too, for no matter how wicked their actions, their deepest desire is Your divine love and forgiveness.
Your love will break the shackles we all wear, please hear my prayer my Lord. I am nothing more than Your insignificant child begging that even if you do not spare my soul, please be merciful to all other.
Amen. Surabhi
Easter commemorates the resurrection of Jesus Christ. It is one of the most important of Christian festivals, and the one celebrated with the greatest joy. Without Easter there would be no Christianity. Without Jesus' suffering, his execution and subsequent resurrection there would be no Christianity, for however terrible the suffering was, it was part of God's plan for the salvation of humankind.
In Western Christianity, Easter marks the end of Lent, a period of fasting and penitence in preparation for Easter, which begins on Ash Wednesday and lasts forty days (not counting Sundays).
The week before Easter, known as Holy Week, is very special in the Christian tradition. The Sunday before Easter is Palm Sunday and the last three days before Easter are Maundy Thursday or Holy Thursday, Good Friday and Holy Saturday (sometimes referred to as Silent Saturday). Palm Sunday, Maundy Thursday and Good Friday respectively commemorate Jesus' entry in Jerusalem, the Last Supper and the Crucifixion.
"Christ the Lord is risen to-day,"
Sons of men and angels say.
Raise your joys and triumphs high;
Sing, ye heavens, and earth reply.
Hope you all having an enjoyable blessed spiritual weekend filled with love and charitable offerings.
Your love will break the shackles we all wear, please hear my prayer my Lord. I am nothing more than Your insignificant child begging that even if you do not spare my soul, please be merciful to all other.
Amen. Surabhi
Easter commemorates the resurrection of Jesus Christ. It is one of the most important of Christian festivals, and the one celebrated with the greatest joy. Without Easter there would be no Christianity. Without Jesus' suffering, his execution and subsequent resurrection there would be no Christianity, for however terrible the suffering was, it was part of God's plan for the salvation of humankind.
In Western Christianity, Easter marks the end of Lent, a period of fasting and penitence in preparation for Easter, which begins on Ash Wednesday and lasts forty days (not counting Sundays).
The week before Easter, known as Holy Week, is very special in the Christian tradition. The Sunday before Easter is Palm Sunday and the last three days before Easter are Maundy Thursday or Holy Thursday, Good Friday and Holy Saturday (sometimes referred to as Silent Saturday). Palm Sunday, Maundy Thursday and Good Friday respectively commemorate Jesus' entry in Jerusalem, the Last Supper and the Crucifixion.
"Christ the Lord is risen to-day,"
Sons of men and angels say.
Raise your joys and triumphs high;
Sing, ye heavens, and earth reply.
Hope you all having an enjoyable blessed spiritual weekend filled with love and charitable offerings.
Poison Issue Summarized
Well sorry prabhu, (a) Srila Prabhupada says that someone is giving him poison; (b) everyone in the room agrees he is saying someone is giving him poison; (c) he says he has the symptoms of a person who is poisoned and the kavirajas and others agree; (d) they were whispering about poisoning him -- as has been confirmed by audio forensics -- and some of these whispers are heard even without the enhanced audio; (e) they hid these 1977 tapes for that reason; (f) Tamal told SDG that he was requested to give Srila Prabhupada something to make him disappear (poison) etc.
As for folks like Brahmananda saying there was no poison issue, the real problem is that for many years people like Brahmananda supported the bogus GBC's and their false appointed gurus and their false appointment claim, and he was greatest friends with guys like Satsvarupa. SDG was writing all these bogus GBC position papers, that in my opinion was the greater substantial manner in which Srila Prabhupada and his teachings were eliminated, he was essentially replaced by a pack of motivated fools.
I was protesting out of the gate in 1978, and I was told by a number of people how Brahmananda was supporting the appointed guru concoction and I saw his name associated with them in their documents for a number of years. He went into their camp and became a big defender of their guru claim. much to my peril, I could have been killed as well.
If they would kill his children like me, why not also kill the father, the pure devotee, or anyone else. And I think they would kill anyone to get their way, that is my opinion. Srila Prabhupada says, just like they killed Jesus, they may kill me also. He knew their mentality. I explain here how they hid the issue, and how Tamal, SDG and others claiming that conditioned souls are the successors to the acharya is another form of poisoning him herein.... ys pd
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Right, for Brahmananda, Hansadutta, Rupanuga, Bhakti Caru and many others, to to say "I was right there and 11 gurus were appointed" has created havoc. YES. They were right there. Did they hear properly? NO.
Right, for Brahmananda, Hansadutta, Rupanuga, Bhakti Caru and many others, to to say "I was right there and 11 gurus were appointed" has created havoc. YES. They were right there. Did they hear properly? NO.
On the other hand, NO, we were not right there, but we heard properly, no gurus will be appointed because that is the Gaudiya Matha's deviations which destroyed their mission. So we challenged right away, this guru appointment is bogus, and it is.
"Being there" does not automatically equal hearing properly, and we should all know this by now. The way out of speculation is to hear what was actually said by Srila Prabhupada, and that is what we are promoting. We got the tapes, the conversations, the letters, the will, and that is what we are running on, not the memories of people who did not listen properly in the the first place.
Gargamuni says now that we should all be ritviks, but Brahmananda was the 1978 seargent at arms for the false 11 guru's appointment, that means, they listened -- fine -- but only much later on, AFTER we began to present all these evidences, THEN they and others agreed LATER ON.
As Srila Prabhupada says mental concoction results from NOT HEARING properly, they got sucked into the bogus guru appointment, because they had not been hearing properly. Did they hear the poison issue properly either? Not likely. And if Brahmananda is correct, Srila Prabhupada died of a broken heart because the leaders could not wait for him to die, why did Brahmananda and co. promote the people who broke his heart (and killed him) as his guru successors? ys pd
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