Book Changers Revival in India

PADA: As we can see, Jayadvaita swami is worshiped recently as a big hero in India by GBC's clone heads. Here he is with Lokanath swami, who is called "Jokernath" by the female he was abusing some years ago, when she was only 11 years old. Yep, the whole gang is assembling to revive their changed books program by starting new legal actions against the original books, folks like Radhanath, Jayadvaita, Bhakti Caru, Jokernath, Jayapataka, and then we have people who lick the boots of the above like Bhakti Vikas Swami. 

What makes Jayadvaita swami such a wonderful hero for the GBC folks?

1) He says members of ISKCON's guru succession (acharyas) are often falling into "illicit sex with men, women and children." Why does the GBC promote the worship a person who says their succession of acharyas are often debauchees, because they agree with this idea ... why else?

2) The BBTI lawsuit says Srila Prabhupada is Jayadvaita's "writer for hire." Yep, the acharya is the hired servant of Jayadvaita? Really?

3) Jayadvaita asks on a video, "Why in the hell are people chanting Prabhupada's name and pranams at the samsara prayers ceremony"? Oh I dunno, maybe because he is the acharya?

4) Then the Jayadvaita team legally blocked our books from being released from the printers.

5) Meanwhile the JAS program is worshiping Bhakti Balabha Tirtha, whose guru was perhaps the worst person to insult Srila Prabhupada (Madhava Maharaja), and Madhava is the founder of the bi-sexual acharya deviation of the Gaudiya Matha. That what we need in ISKCON, to worship the founder fathers of the illicit sex acharya's program of 1936? Why do they always end up promoting the illicit sex acharya's program's leaders and their disciples?

Of course, we could go on here extolling the other virtues of Jayadvaita's illicit sex guru's program, asking for example, why are they teaching little children that God's guru successors are often illicit sex debauchees? Is this part of the official ISKCON legal charter, statement of purpose, and / or corporate description, "Henceforward, little children shall be taught to worship an illicit sex with men, women and children guru parampara." Where is this stated in any official documents? 

Its not, its fraudulent misrepresenting of Krishna and the Vedas.

Thus! What I would do, had I the facility and organizational powers in India, I'd start a fraud lawsuit in India. I would say these people have no authority to say Krishna and his guru succession are an "illicit sex with men, women and children guru lineage," and worse, to say Krishna's successive acharyas are often debauchees and deviants is an insult to the Vedic teachings of India, never mind its a total attack on Srila Prabhupada himself, he never agreed to this idea. And do we want the people who say Krishna's successors and India's holy saints are often debauchees, to be in charge of India's Vedic literatures?

Therefore, Jayadvaita is attacking India and its heritage, and he is discrediting the India culture and values world wide, therefore, he should not be handed off the job of re-writing the Vedas of India. Probably this would get into the press media and they would have a field day with this issue. 

And lets not forget that Radhanath is, according to his ex-disciple, not even displaying Srila Prabhupada's books at his programs because they are "too controversial." And who is Radhanath? Oh I forgot, he is the ex-henchman of the worship of another illicit sex acharya, Kirtanananda, and who buried this sexual predator in the holy dham. We need to bury debauchees and sexual predators in Vrndavana? More evidence for a court case over there, they worship known sexual predators as their messiahs in the holy land. 

Then we have guys like Yadubara and Visaka, who according to some associates, told some people recently they should cooperate with the "Krishna House" in Gainesville. Right, that's where they full on worship the GBC's illicit sex with men, women and children messiah's spokesman / book changer / and so-called acharya Jayadvaita swami. Why does Yadubara think its a good idea to tell children they need to worship his illicit sex debauchees messiah's programs, ... because he is another Jayadvaita clone head himself? And why doesn't Yadubara even know that God and His successors are not debauchees? Ever! 

Poor fellow Hanuman thinks we need to worship Bhakti Vikas swami, because he kisses the feet of all these people and he worships the founder father of the illicit sex acharyas / book changing / Third Reich book removal program named Jayapataka.

Of course ALL this begs the question, why do they want children to worship illicit sex with men, women and children guru lineages, and to re-write the Vedas to suit that agenda? Anyway, this is all fraud, its not what Krishna says, He never says the path to ME is to worship the JAS, Yadubara, GBC's molester messiahs project. So its simple, take that argument to court and sue them for fraud, and have them barred from the legal rights to control / edit / re-write the Vedic literatures. Anyone who says the Vedic acharyas are often having illicit sex with men, women and children has no authority to control the Vedas, and we think a court in India would agree. ys pd 

http://krishna1008.blogspot.com/2017/03/iskcon-gbc-launches-third-reich-book.html

http://krishna1008.blogspot.com/2015/08/srila-prabhupada-is-writer-for-hire.html

http://krishna1008.blogspot.com/2015/04/radhanath-swami-vs-book-changes.html

Astrology In the Vedas

https://theharekrishnamovement.org/2017/04/23/astronomical-calculations/

Om Namo Narayanaya (Video)

Deadly Radhanath Disease / BVKS / Bhakti Ballabha Tirtha etc.

By Hanuman das

Deadly disease

Deadly disease was spreading in ISKCON for years in form of Radhanath baba’s mayavadi philosophy. The idea is that by being philosophically deviated, associating with Mayavadis and sahajiyas and considering them friends, and generally being “smarter” than Prabhupada, you will attract a lot of followers and bring them to Srila Prabhupada lotus feet. In theory, this sounds nice, but it will never work.

Exactly the opposite is happening, as you will see from this article, as Radhanath’s clone army is growing, it is no longer possible to preach Srila Prabhupada’s original philosophy. You could see in last few days, I published articles where Radhanath baba’s own disciples, namely Jvalamukhi and Radha Madhava are rejecting him because of his cover ups and desire to change Prabhupada's teachings.

But today, I am going to publish something much worse. I will show you how disciples of other gurus are rejecting their own gurus, because their own gurus are covering up for Radhanatha baba. 

The war is on.

This movie is not 100% about Radhanath baba, but it has a lot of his philosophy and his book is directly mentioned on couple of occasions. Keep in mind that one of main leaders in Russia, Bhakti Vijnana Goswami, is also follower of Radhanath baba. So, all the weirdness that is happening there is partially Radhanath baba’s responsibility.

[PADA: Not really, the whole GBC is responsible for this mess, since they have known all along that the Kirtanananda / Radhanath empire are deviated from the early 1980s, when they were sued by the Syracuse FEDERAL court (and lost), they had their drug mules arrested, and they were creating a criminal enterprise at New Vrndavana that was eventually raided by Federal Marshals. There was also the deviation where devotees dressed in brown monk robes, and countless other bogus things were going on there, and the GBC knew about all this and more because they sometimes went there, had meetings there etc. 

After all this was made public, including the Sulochana murder and the Federal Raid, then the GBC made Radhanath, Devamrta, Kuladri,, Tapah Punjah and others -- their biggest leaders. And then later other big GBC folks buried the carcass of Kirtanananda in Vrndavana, along with Radhanath. The entire GBC are the people who have been enabling, empowering and foisting Radhanath and his henchmen upon the society, for decades. 

Of course, apart from Radhanath other "reformers" like Trivrikrama, Indradyumna, Sacinandan, Prithu, Jayadvaita, Ravindra swarupa, Bhakti Vikas swami and many others were also "voted in" as acharyas alongside with the deviant ex-New Vrndavana group. So they are all co-conspirators or co-acharyas with Radhanath, and they are thus in the same voted in GBC guru party.]

In this movie, Krishna Nama das, is talking with his own guru, Indradyumna Swami, about all the weird preaching going on in Russia, and how authorities are oppressing him because he wants to preach Prabhupada’s original message. And he is especially mentioning 3 major issues propapaged by Radhanath baba: Mother Theresa's saintliness, Neem Karoli baba's divinity and mayavadi Krishna das.

It’s a very long video, so, I have broken it up to pieces so you can rewind to the part that which you want to listen.

Initial exposee by Mathura Nama das

1:20 Indirect preaching nonsense
1:55 Torsonov nonsense.
2:10 - Definition of indirect preaching
2:50 - We should not preach as Prabhupada preached
3:16 - Everyone will go away if we preach like Prabhupada,

MY COMMENT: This idea that if we preach like Prabhupada, everybody will leave, that is essential though behind everything that Radhanath baba is doing. Well, let me tell ya one thing, some of us will leave if we start preaching like 
Radhanath baba.

3:42 - They asked Bhakti Vikasa Swami the same question
4:48 - Bhakti Vikasa Swami’s reply to this question.

[PADA: Right, Bhakti Vikas Swami was "voted in" simultaneously when the GBC recoronated Bhavananda as their acharya, which means in 1986 the GBC re-certified that sex with Taxi drivers if the qualification of an acharya. So Bhakti Vikas swami (BVKS) is an official "sex with Taxi drivers certified acharya" himself. BVKS says he is a diksha guru, because he is part of the sex with Taxi driver's guru parampara? 

BVKS has never explained, why is he a card carrying member of the illicit sex with men, women and children guru parampara? And why does BVKS keep saying that worship of his illicit sex guru sampradaya is in "the tradition"? Is there any religion on earth that has "the tradition" of worship of illicit sex as their acharyas and messiahs? 

OK, BVKS has no discrimination, that ISKCON should not promote the worship of sex with Taxi drivers as its acharyas, rather he has promoted that deviation himself all along by being voted in ALONG with it. Did we forget to mention that the 1986 BVKS "guru reform" program excommunicated Sulochana, which lead to his murder, because Sulochana said there was rampant crimes going on here. So the GBC / Radhanath / BVKS program had to remove and discredit him, as the GBC and BVKS did? And by their demonizing Sulochana, they got him killed.]   

[PADA: Of course they are also killing the books, the GBC / Radhanath / BVKS program always glorifies the books changers. And now the GBC / Radhanath / BVKS folks are holding our books hostage with a lawsuit in India. We are not allowed to get our books ...!] 

5:37 - Indirect preaching means devotees dressed like karmis
6:14 - Indirect preaching - No preaching about Krishna or surrender to Krishna
7:20 - Nationalism = Materialism
11:28 - Restriction placed on teacher not to argue with devotees, because he didn’t accept mother Theresa is saintly.

[PADA: Right, mother Theresa is a saint, while the Prabhupada devotees are not. And that is why Radhanath and his GBC program is spending $20,000,000 suing the Prabhupada devotees to drive them out of Prabhupada's temples.] 

12:43 - In the book Journey Home, mayavadis are glorified: Neem Karoli baba, Dalai Lama.
13:57 - Devotees are not given chance to give counter arguments to indirect preaching.
15:19 - Audarya Nama preaching not bonafide.
16:58 - Cancer treatment by Audarya Nama.
18:20 - Mathura Nama wanted open discussion, Mathura Nama was treated as rebel, REQUESTED TO STEP DOWN FROM BOARD AND LEAVE THE ASRAMA.

Accused they wanted to usurp the power. They told situation to BVKS, he replied that we want develop traditionally, no indirect preaching, guru-sadhu-sastra, another BVKS disciple Jagadish das kicked out from Kazan temple, BVKS said that Jagadish acted properly.

[PADA: BVKS has had us kicked out, and even murdered, by his ongoing support of the overall GBC. He has all along supported them and their idea that we need to worship these living deviants as acharyas. He says our Prabhupada pooja idea is bogus. And he is best pals with Jayapataka, where there are still problems in their schools because they never weeded out the deviants since 1977. Jayapataka was one of the people who said we need to keep the sex with Taxi driver acharya's program, and BVKS is his sannyasa disciple. BVKS is the car carrying disciple of the sex with Taxi driver acharyas program.]

BVKS: I love to promote the worship of sex with Taxi drivers acharyas (and kick out the worship of Srila Prabhupada)!

21:06 - Jagadish das, brahmacari, distributing Prabhupada’s books for 15 years, was giving lectures according to sastra, temple president, regional secretary, told him: “You should not speak like Prabhupada, otherwise we will kick you out”, and this is what happened.

22:01 - We are exactly same position, declared banned out of ISKCON structure, can’t get books for distribution. Although they need Srila Prabhupada’s books to distribution.

MY COMMENT: This is how crazy ISKCON is today: Only way to get Prabhupada’s books and to distribute them, is to agree not to preach like Prabhupada. What a schizophrenic society did Radhanath baba create.

[PADA: No, whole GBC and their bucket boys like BVKS created this regime.]

Reply by Indradyumna Swami

MY COMMENT: This is most funny reply in the history of ISKCON. Instead of blasting nonsense, and there was ton of nonsense mentioned: Mother Theresa, Neem Karoli baba, you name it, Indradyumna Swami is silent about all the nonsense, but he says “I am traditionalist”. That is a new kind of traditionalist, who is not able to say one word against Radhanath baba nonsense preaching.

23:19 - Why not both?

MY COMMENT: Why not both, why not preach from Prabhupada’s books, and in the same time preach that Neem Karoli is saint, and that mother Theresa, cow meat distributor is also saintly. Ahm, I don’t think that will work.

[PADA: Right, this came up before, that Radhanath is saying that a meat eater is a saint and we should not be doing that, but the GBC failed to check his program. And people like BVKS were voted in as gurus simultaneously to Radhanath being voted in, they have the same guru beeja.]

24:20 - I am traditionalist, I am old school.

MY COMMENT: LOL

24:41 - People complain that I speak too directly.

MY COMMENT: LOL

25:45 - Festival of India
27:00 - Dressed as devotees
27:56 - There is room for another approach
29:00 - Airport karmi dress, distribute yoga, meditation
32:00 - Many people joined over psychology.

MY COMMENT: I met some Russian people, who were kicked out from ISKCON, such as Mathura Nama, for not accepting psychology nonsense.

33:55 - Prasadam, secret weapon.

[PADA: What is prasadam? Hanuman himself never explain this point either? You have to offer bhogha to the pure devotee, or its not prasadam. He never explains if he accepts this system or what?]

34:15 - PERSONALLY, I AM VERY TRADITIONAL.

35:00 - We preach WITHOUT COMPROMISING MESSAGE

MY COMMENT: Here, Indradyumna Swami is getting schizophrenic, message of Prabhupada is compromised by Radhanath baba long time ago. Otherwise, why Mathura Nama is complaining??? Why Mathura Nama is being kicked from his temple if message is not compromised? All he wants to do is to preach what Prabhupada preached. But he is not allowed to do that in Prabhupada’s own movement.

35:45 - Caitanya Mahaprabhu is innovative because of singing and dancing instead of lecturing in the temple

36:59 - PEOPLE DON’T LIKE CHANGE, CHANGE WITHOUT COMPROMISING THE MESSAGE,

MY COMMENT: So, when Radhanath baba, who is supposed to be sannyasi, engages in eye camps, and Prabhupada said: “In Bhagavad-gita there is no such statement that you take care of the eyes of the people. There is no such statement. That is your manufactured idea.” (Room Conversation – January 8, 1977, Bombay) Is that a compromised message or not?

37:45 - Change - Bhaktivinoda introduced nama-hatta
37:53 - Bhakti siddhanta innovator who shocked

38:15 - I am suprised Bhakti Vikasa Swami is speaking so strongly against innovative preaching BECAUSE HE WROTE A BOOK ABOUT BHAKTI SIDDHANTA.

38:25 - Bhaktisiddhanta radical innovative preaching, that was him.

39:04 - I read book 3 times, I LOVE THAT BOOK.

MY COMMENT: Imagine this, Indradyumna Swami is defending Radhanath nonsense and all other nonsense by using Bhakti-siddhanta Sarasvati as an example, amazing stuff. So, when Radhanath Swami writes in his book Journey Home, that Neem Karoli baba is saintly, that Ramesh baba is his lifelong friend, that is same innovative preaching as Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati was going. 

Well, dear Indradyumna Swami, since you claim that you read Bhaktisiddhanta Vaibhava three times, you surely know that Bhaktisiddhantha Sarasvati was greatest enemy of sahajiyas and mayavadis. Comparing Bhaktisiddhanta with Radhanath is really beyond level of good taste, and constitutes offence towards Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati.

[PADA: Yep, just see how foolish the GBC and their gurus are, they think that Radhanath, BVKS and others are acharyas, because they are certified as acharyas simultaneously when sex with Taxi drivers is certified as acharyas and all the above is "the tradition." That is what BVKS keeps saying, we have to worship his sex with Taxi driver guru certificate or "we are not in the tradition." The tradition is -- sex with Taxi drivers?]

39:15 - That’s where I get idea that you can be non traditional and get away with it.

39:43 - kurta coat, motors, festivals that people didn’t know they are coming to Krishna consciousness at all.

41:10 - Festivals Bhakti siddhanta, material and spiritual, jiu jitsu, circus, film shows, athletics, spiritual inner circle. Detailed explanation.

MY COMMENT: Sri Bhaktisiddhanta Vaibhava states that there were many mundane attractions at the Mayapura Pradarsani, for attracting non-devotees. But in his writing and speaking Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati was always straightforward, unlike deliberately vague, verging on Mayavadi, Radhanath baba.

47:20 - Kali progresses, vaisnavas must be innovative
48:00 - Tax your brains how to spread this movement.

MY COMMENT: Please, dear Indradyumna Swami, tell Radhanath baba to turn off his brain, if he starts taxing his brain how to spread this movement, some of us find it hard to survive that nonsense.

48:20 - Fine line

48:45 - I DISAGREE THAT RADHANATH MAHARAJ IS LIKE THAT.

MY COMMENT: Well, dear Indradyumna Swami, you can agree that Radhanath Swami didn’t cross the line, we are very happy that you finally aligned yourself as supporter of Radhanath Swami, you just lost a disciple for saying that, and I am sure you’ll lose many more.

50:00 - Bhakti for the Divine.
51:00 - They like him because he is not pushy,
51:44 - Maharaj makes more devotees than me.

MY COMMENT: Yea? Devotees of who? Idea is to be devoted to Prabhupada. Radhanath baba makes devotees who are devoted to hospitals, mayavadis and eye camps. And all those people are not really interesting in Prabhupada, finding him politically incorrect and old fashioned. Therefore, having failed to become fascinated by Srila Prabhupada, they are lingering on the sahajiya level of consciousness, often insulting to Prabhupada, and persecuting his real followers, their future is very dark.

52:02 - Politicians take initiation, I can’t do that.
52:10 - My most indirect preaching, is I wear jacket which says Russia.
54:45 - I agree with Bhakti Vikasa Swami, too much compromise is not good.

MY COMMENT: Yes, Indradyumna Swami maharaja, we agree at least once in this video.

55:25 - We must be very strict, but that will not attract people ??? Purity is the force.
57:00 - It’s not sinful Maya.

MY COMMENT: How about Ramesh baba disco dance? Is that sinful? Should we consider people like Ramesh baba to be our lifelong friends?

57:45 - Rock music
59:45 - I never go to rock concert and don’t allow devotees.
1:00:00 - Poison get washed away
1:01:30 - Crap rock music
1:02:30 - Given women gayatri mantra
1:03:20 - Room for both
1:03:40 - There is place for Sacinandana Swami and Radhanath Swami.

MY COMMENT: Yes, this is what I wanted to her, finally somebody made a place for sannyasis with girlfriends.

1:04:18 - Judge by result
1:05:00 - Both parties should preach, not fight, side by side

MY COMMENT: Seriously, you are telling this to your disciple who is getting 
kicked from temple because he wants to preach what Prabhupada preached? 

THIS IS EPIC

Reply by Mathura nama das:

1:06:30 - Devotees are influenced by mayavada sahajiya, leader of bhakti sanga claims mother Theresa is saintly. Krishna das is mayavadi.

Reply by Indradyumna Swami:

1:07:25 - Whenever you go to preach, there is always a chance for contamination.
1:10:00 - Strong sadhana, will not be attracted. We should preach to mayavadis, Krishna das should also get the mercy.

MY COMMENT: Dear Indradyumna Swami, preaching to Krishna das is one thing, ISKCON people organising tours for him and allowing him to contaminate devotees by his singing is another thing. Preaching to sahajiyas is one thing, And [claiming that they are out lifelong friends] is another thing.

1:11:00 - Prabhupada was associating with mayavadi dr Misra, and cured him from disease. Prabhupada many devotees by singing, not by preaching.

MY COMMENT: Prabhupada never converted mayavadi dr Misra to vaisnavism

1:12:00 - When associating with mayavadis, we speak their language a little bit.

MY COMMENT: Interesting, but Prabhupada never “spoke mayavadi language” a little bit. And Radhanath baba is speaking mayvadi language a lot, not little.

1:13:00 - Times have changed.

MY COMMENT: Yes, times have changed, Prabhupada’s followers were tolerating Radhanath baba for some years, and now we go to war

[PADA: Well the GBC is not merely tolerating, they are supporting and they also support his $20,000,000 lawsuit.]

Reply by Mathura nama das:

1:14:00 - How to develop simultaneously?

MY COMMENT: This is too painful to watch, disciple is pleading to be allowed to preach what Prabhupada preached.

Reply by Indradyumna Swami:

1:14:59 - Loyal independent, loyal to ISKCON but have my independent program. Generally, I don’t criticize , not publicly.

MY COMMENT: You are not loyal independent, you are loyal to Radhanath baba and agree with him 100%, you didn’t say one word against his deviations. And you are having no problems to disagree with Bhakti Vikasa Swami. There is no such thing as loyal independent.

[PADA: Right, when the deviation of sex with Taxi drivers was being discussed, people like BVKS said he needed to get voted into that sampradaya, and he is. None of them are independent of that deviation because they all went along with it, and they still support pillar members of that group like JPS. Indradyumna is BVKS fellow member because he too was voted into the sex with Taxi driver sampradaya.] 

1:15:30 - If they want to become siksa disciples of Bhakti Vikasa Swami, that’s ok.

MY COMMENT: Damn right is ok, having Radhanath babas supporter as guru sucks big time, this video is proof of that.

[PADA: Why is taking shiksha from the sex with Taxi dirver's sampradaya ok?] 

1:15:50 - Other persons are not doing anything devious, we should recognize the validity of it.

MY COMMENT: Here you have it, preaching about Neem Karoli baba is not deviation, mother Theresa is who was feeding people with meat is actually divine, organizing concerts with mayavadi Krishna das also not deviation, speaking mayavadi language “a little bit” is also not deviant. 

And where is the line? Line is when you start opening brothels and selling drugs I guess. Everything before that is ok, as long as you are making devotees (since when Radhanath closed who don’t like Prabhupada are called devotees?)
1:16:51 - You can’t criticise their preaching because that is exactly what Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati was doing.

MY COMMENT: Epic, Radhanath baba is new Bhaktisiddanta Sarasvati. EPIC, THIS IS WHAT I WANTED TO HEAR FROM INDRADYUMNA SWAMI. NOW EVERYTHING IS CLEAR.

1:18:00 - All our acaryas, including Caitanya Mahaprabhu, preached indirectly.

MY COMMENT: LOL, no comment needed. At this point, I reached my limit. There is only certain amount of nonsense I can digest, you can watch the rest of video. there are around 50 minutes more.

The aftermath

As a result of this video, Mathura Nama das no longer considers himself disciple of Indradyumna Swami, doesn’t recite his pranama mantra, and he took shelter of real ISKCON guru. 

[PADA: Mathura Nama took shelter of the sex with Taxi driver's acharya's sampradaya? Why is that better? Better than what? It might be better to worship mother Teresa and Jesus -- than BVKS and his sex with Taxi drivers acharyas?] 

Basic function of real ISKCON guru is to explain difference between illusion and reality for the benefit of all. Indradyumna Swami obviously didn’t do this in this video, rather he sided with traitor of Prabhupada, Radhanath baba, who is promoting Ramesh baba, doing eye camps, opening hospitals, and preaching nonsense philosophy which is nowhere to be found in Prabhupada’s books.

Do you want to live in Radhanath’s new nonsense ISKCON where you are not allowed to repeat Prabhupada’s words? If you do, then stay silent, don’t complain and let Radhanath’s clone army conquer everything.

[PADA: Radhanath's program has gone on forever and no one really complained much about it for years, now that its deviations are emerging more clearly, the GBC is in a pickle because they promoted him so widely, how to retract that now without looking even more foolish than they already look?

Incidently, the GBC's and Jayapataka's Mayapura project, their world head quarters no less, is hosting the departure of a disciple of Madhava Maharaja, the person who insulted Prabhupada (I was there) and this is the BVKS sannyasa guru program? Why is the GBC promoting Bhakti Ballabha Tirtha, a disciple of Madhava Maharaja, one of the founder fathers of the 1936 bi-sexual acharya's program and one of the worst insulters to Prabhupada? 

After Madhava left, Srila Prabhupada said we have to post a guard at my door because these God brothers might try to harm OR KILL ME. And these are the same people whose sampradaya we worship now? Of course Paramadvaiti swami from the Gaudiya Matha is also a fan of the Bhakti Ballabha Tirtha program, they are all united on these issues with the GBC. 

And why is BVKS saying these Mayapura deviants are his sannyasa gurus? And why do these guys always end up glorifying the founders of bi-sexual acharyas, sex with Taxi drivers, Prabhupada insulting acharyas, and in sum, what Jayadvaita swami says is "illicit sex with men, women and children" acharyas? And why does BVKS say that his illicit sex acharya's program is "the tradition"? YS PD]

http://krishna1008.blogspot.com/2017/04/jehovahs-witness-group-banned-in-russia.html

Bhakti Vikas swami demonizes Prabhupada worship as "shameless deviation" is this because, he wants to get more of us killed? 

http://krishna1008.blogspot.com/2013/01/is-bhakti-vikas-mj-inciting-more.html


Bhakti Vikas swami creates a  society no one can live in? 

http://krishna1008.blogspot.com/2016/12/bhakti-viksa-swami-iskcon-society-no.html

Hinduism in Central Ohio

https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/5883c9ed-8072-3563-abfb-161bc322064e/ss_more-central-ohioans-drawn-to.html

Jehovah's Witness Group Banned in Russia

https://www.yahoo.com/news/jehovah-witnesses-banned-russia-supreme-170631837.html

[PADA: Property and assets ordered seized and liquidated. While I am not entirely a big fan of these Jehovah's folks, its alarming that any alternate religion to the "Russian Orthodox Church" can be seized and shut down instantly. Not a good sign for "other religions" in that region, or for religious freedoms in general. And that could be bad news for other "smaller sects." 

The Jehovah's witness folks sometimes visit me here, and I find them to be friendly, and at least very dedicated to their religion and serving Jehovah. This cannot be a major dangerous problem, unless you are a competing religion and they are taking people away from your camp. 

Of course here in ISKCON we had the direct opposite rule, we were ordered that we had to allow our competing religions and camps into our society, like Sridhara, Narayan, BV and BP Puri maharajas, Ramesh Baba, Fakir Mohan, Babajis, Disciples of Prabhupada insulters like Madhava Maharaja etc., and we had to allow them to siphon off thousands of our ISKCON followers over to their camps under GBC decree. 

Yep:

ISKCON MAYAPUR getting ready to welcome the transcendental body of HDG BHAKTI BALABH TIRTHA MAHARAJA on the 21st of April 2017.

ISKCON MAYAPUR is getting ready to receive HDG SRILA BHAKTI BALLABH TIRTHA MAHARAJA's transcendental body. As per instructions of HH JAYAPATAKA SWAMI GURUMAHARAJA full ceremony of honoring an Acarya will be performed. Maharaja will be received with big Kirtan by devotees and special invocation and Sanyas suktas by the Gurukulis. 

Then his transcendental body will be taken in procession to get Darsan of Srila Prabhupada's Bhajan kutir and thereafter will proceed to the main temple of Sri Sri Radha Madhav. Panca Tattva and Narasimhadeva for special Darsan. On the court yard will be given full honors by devotees with special Vaishnava songs and then procession will proceed to His Divine Grace's Math.
What!

We worship a disciple of Madhava, the person who yelled at Prabhupada for having the title of Prabhupada? These are the people we need to glorify in ISKCON? ISKCON has a policy, we get to worship EVERYONE ELSE except Srila Prabhupada?

Invites in the competition

Of course then we also have guys like Krishna Kirtan das and his vociferous program of promoting Krishna Balaram swami, who is writing his own Bhagavatams -- self evidently, he thinks Prabhupada's writings are defective. So we need to allow the competition to Srila Prabhupada to re-write his books and take over his religion. 

Our bogus leaders and their clones like Krishna Kirtan actually made the opposite rule, we have to allow in all the other competing camps and siphon our religion down to the bone, because they wanted to split our religion over to the competition. Maybe they should have had the same rules as Russia, other camps cannot operate in our domain. ys pd]     

Disappearance Vrndavan Das Thakura

Happy Festival Day of Sri Vrindavan Das Thakur! (Friday 4/21/17)

Vrindavan Das Thakur was born on the Krishna-dvadashi of the month of Vaishakh in 1429 of the Shaka era (1507 AD). Some say he was born in Mamgachi in the Nabadwip area, others say his birthplace was in Kumarahatta. His father was Vaikunthanatha Vipra, who originally came from Sylhet (Sylhet), his mother Narayani Devi. Narayani was the daughter of Srivasa Pandit’s elder brother, Shrinalina Pandit. Kavi Karnapura has also mentioned her name in his Gaura-ganoddesha-dipika:

ambikayah svasa yasin namna shrila-kilimbika

krishnocchishtam prabhuïjana seyam narayani mata

Kilimbika, who used to eat Krishna’s remnants, was the younger sister of Krishna’s nurse Ambika (Srivasa’s wife, Malini). In Mahaprabhu’s lila, she became Narayani.

Narayani also achieved fame because she received Gaurasundara’s mercy when he gave her his remnants. When the Lord displayed his divine form in the Mahaprakasha in Srivasa Angan, Narayani was only a small child of four, but the Lord made her intoxicated with the ecstasy of prema. Whether born in Mamagachi or in Kumarahatta, Vrindavan Das later lived in the village of Denuria, within the Matreshvara precinct of Burdwan district. Thus Denuria is considered to be his Shripata. 

He spent some of his childhood with his mother in Mamagachi, at the home of his maternal grandparents where Narayani was married. Vrindavan Das’s Gaura-Nitai deities are still worshiped at the Mamagachi home. When his father died, he and his mother moved to Srivasa’s house where he received Mahaprabhu’s special blessings.

Vrindavan Das Writes Chaitanya Bhagavat

Because of the copious blessings he received from Nityananda Prabhu, Vrindavan Das is said to have been his initiated disciple.

Vrindavan Das is the recipient of Nityananda’s blessings. He is the original Vyasa of Chaitanya’s pastimes. (Chaitanya Charitamrita 3.20.82)

He wrote Chaitanya Bhagavat in 1535 AD. Krishnadas Kaviraj Goswami, the author of Chaitanya Charitamrita, has written the following in praise of Vrindavan Das Thakur:

Vrindavan Das, the son of Narayani, wrote the Chaitanya Mangala. Vedavyasa described Krishna’s life in the Srimad Bhagavatam and Vrindavan Das is the Vyasa of Chaitanya-lila. (Chaitanya Charitamrita 1.11.54-5)

Just as Vyasadeva compiled Lord Krishna’s pastimes in Srimad Bhagavatam, Thakur Vrindavan Das depicted Lord Chaitanya’s pastimes. His Chaitanya Mangala annihilates all misfortune. From it, I learned the wonders of Lord Chaitanya and Nityananda and came to know all the most subtle doctrines of devotional service to Krishna. Vrindavan Das Thakur has summarized the essence of the teachings of the Srimad Bhagavatam in his Chaitanya Mangala. 

If even a Muslim or an atheist should listen to Chaitanya Mangala, he immediately becomes a great Vaishnava. An ordinary human being could not have composed such a sublime work; Lord Chaitanya himself has spoken through the mouth of Vrindavan Das. I offer millions of obeisances unto the lotus feet of Vrindavan Das Thakur who has delivered the entire universe through his book. He was born in the womb of Narayani who eternally enjoys Sri Chaitanya’s remnants. How wonderful is his description of the activites of the Lord, simply by hearing which the three worlds have become sanctified! (Chaitanya Charitamrita 1.8.34-42)

Vrindavan Das became so absorbed in the description of Nityananda Prabhu’s lila that he did not elaborately relate all of Mahaprabhu’s activities, only summarizing them in abbreviated form. Krishnadas then elaborated on these undescribed activities in his Chaitanya Charitamrita.

Vrindavan Das the authorized biographer of Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu and equal to Srila Vyasadeva. He has described the Lord’s pastimes in such a way as to make them sweeter and sweeter. I shall try as far as possible to fill in the accounts he left out out of fear of excessively enlarging his book. (Chaitanya Charitamrita 1.13.48-9)

Disappearance day of Sri Vrindavana dasa Thakura, April 21, 2017  

Srila Prabhupada glorifies the unique position of Srila Vrindavana dasa Thakura\

Vrindavana dasa Thakura's birth 

nārāyaṇī--caitanyera ucchiṣṭa-bhājana

tāṅra garbhe janmilā śrī-dāsa-vṛndāvana

SYNONYMS

nārāyaṇī—of the name Nārāyaṇī; caitanyera—of Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu; ucchiṣṭa-bhājana—eater of the remnants of food; tāṅra—of her; garbhe—in the womb; janmilā—took birth; śrī-dāsa-vṛndāvana—Śrīla Vṛndāvana dāsa Thākura.

TRANSLATION Nārāyaṇī eternally eats the remnants of the food of Caitanya Mahāprabhu. Śrīla Vṛndāvana dāsa Ṭhākura was born of her womb.

PURPORT

In the Gaura-gaṇoddeśa-dīpikā, a book written by Kavi-karṇapūra that describes all the associates of Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu and who they previously were, there is the following statement regarding Nārāyaṇī:

ambikāyāḥ svasā yāsīn

nāmnā śrīla-kilimbikā

kṛṣṇocchiṣṭaṁ prabhuñjānā

seyaṁ nārāyaṇī matā

When Lord Kṛṣṇa was a child, He was nursed by a woman named Ambikā, who had a younger sister named Kilimbikā. During the time of Lord Caitanya's incarnation, the same Kilimbikā used to eat the remnants of food left by Lord Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu. That Kilimbikā was Nārāyaṇī, who was a niece of Śrīvāsa Ṭhākura's. Later on, when she grew up and married, Śrīla Vṛndāvana dāsa Ṭhākura was born from her womb. A devotee of Lord Śrī Kṛṣṇa is celebrated in terms of devotional service rendered to the Lord; thus we know Śrīla Vṛndāvana dāsa Ṭhākura as the son of Nārāyaṇī. Śrīla Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī Ṭhākura notes in this connection that there is no reference to his paternal ancestry because there is no need to understand it.

Books : Sri Caitanya-caritamrta - 1975 Edition : Cc. Adi-lila : Adi 8: The Author Receives the Orders of Krsna and Guru : Adi 8.41 : PURPORT :

Vrindavana dasa Thakura as the author of Sri Caitanya-Bhagavata

vṛndāvana-dāsa--nārāyaṇīra nandana

'caitanya-maṅgala' yeṅho karila racana

SYNONYMS

vṛndāvana-dāsa—Śrīla Vṛndāvana dāsa Ṭhākura; nārāyaṇīra nandana—son of Nārāyaṇī; caitanya-maṅgala—the book of the name Caitanya-maṅgala; yeṅho—who; karila—did; racana—composition.

TRANSLATION

Vṛndāvana dāsa Ṭhākura, the son of Śrīmatī Nārāyaṇī, composed Śrī Caitanya-maṅgala [later known as Śrī Caitanya-bhāgavata]

Books : Sri Caitanya-caritamrta - 1975 Edition : Cc. Adi-lila : Adi 11: The Expansions of Lord Nityananda : Adi 11.54 :

bhāgavate kṛṣṇa-līlā varṇilā vedavyāsa

caitanya-līlāte vyāsa--vṛndāvana dāsa

SYNONYMS

bhāgavate—in Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam; kṛṣṇa-līlā—the pastimes of Lord Kṛṣṇa; varṇilā—described; veda-vyāsa—Dvaipāyana Vyāsadeva; caitanya-līlāte—in the pastimes of Lord Caitanya; vyāsa—Vedavyāsa; vṛndāvana dāsa—Śrīla Vṛndāvana dāsa Ṭhākura.

TRANSLATION

Śrīla Vyāsadeva described the pastimes of Kṛṣṇa in Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam. The Vyāsa of the pastimes of Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu was Vṛndāvana dāsa.

PURPORT

Śrīla Vṛndāvana dāsa Ṭhākura was an incarnation of Vedavyāsa and also a friendly cowherd boy named Kusumāpīḍa in kṛṣṇa-līlā.In other words, the author of Śrī Caitanya-bhāgavata, Śrīla Vṛndāvana dāsa Ṭhākura, the son of Śrīvāsa Ṭhākura's niece Nārāyaṇī, was a combined incarnation of Vedavyāsa and the cowherd boy Kusumāpīḍa. There is a descriptive statement by Śrīla Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī Ṭhākura in his commentary on Śrī Caitanya-bhāgavata giving the biographical details of the life of Vṛndāvana dāsa Ṭhākura

Alex Jones "Unhinged Conspiracy Theorist"

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/infowars-alex-jones-performance-artist-playing-character-lawyer-conspiracy-theory-donald-trump-a7687571.html

[PADA: Some devotees over the years have sent me various links to the Alex Jones' "Info Wars" site, with some alarming news story, where he propounds basically some of the Illuminati type stuff , ok same stuff that attracts folks like the Sanat, Mukunda, Prahlad, Janardan, HKC Jaipur types, and even some of our own associates. 

Meanwhile his own wife says he is an unhinged conspiracy theorist? How come these "karmi" ladies are always way ahead of all of these "devotees"? And she says that their children are watching his unhinged show at their house, so its bad for their children. Well yeah ... its basically a lot of hype and hysteria and kids should not be subjected to these rants. She is right. Again!

And now even Alex Jones' own lawyer says he has not been espousing factual and real news, its basically fake news, because the whole show is "a performance act." Yep, many devotees are prone to fake news performance acts, whether from the unhinged GBC's guru side or from the mundane side. 

Its amazing to me that probably hundreds of millions of "karmi women" can see these people are "unhinged conspiracy theorists" while many devotees lap up this news site as real and substantial. Then we wonder why so many "devotees" got sucked into the GBC's guru's fake news program? They did not listen to Srila Prabhupada, he says mundane news is fake news from the get go. He also says acharyas are not appointed, that is the real news. Krishna devotees who are part time Alex Jones' disciples, take note please! ys pd  

Krishna kirtan / KB Swami /Jvalamukhi / Dallas Lawsuit etc. update

http://krishna1008.blogspot.com/2017/01/his-divine-grace-mahamandaleshwar.html

Krishna Kirtan Dasa: They will do this. This PADA is great at trolling too, and in his own way. Watch out for him, he is a notorious hateful spinner. He is a gatekeeper and is trouble. I say right to his face and he knows it. He is forbidden to comment by me since years now. If you keep talking and people make comments, many trolls will show up, so heads up.

Update NOTE: Krishna Kirtan's guru has re-wrote the Bhagavatams and does not promote Srila Prabhupada's. This is sort of what Radhanath does, he promotes his own books, and some of his programs do not display Srila Prabhupada's, at least according to reports.

http://store.bhagavatdharma.org/product/srimad-bhagavatam-15-vol-en/

[PADA: I think we are finally making some good progress figuring out Krishna Kirtan das (and ilk). First of all, he admits that the Dallas lawsuit reduced the ongoing molestation events (because hundreds of kids were pulled out of GBC's schools), and the suicide epidemic dropped almost to nil. And many other ex-kulis agree with him, these are the results of the DALLAS abuse lawsuit, including people like Jvalamukhi.

At the same time, Krishna Kirtan says the Dallas lawsuit should never have been done, which means self-evidently, he wanted the ongoing abuse and suicides to continue. OK that means he and the "Satanic" child abuser program are on the same basic page, they both have the same essential objectives and same results, since both wanted the ongoing abuse and suicides not to be halted -- the way the Dallas lawsuit did. Then these guys wonder why the victims of their ideology "have a bad attitude towards the religion"? Duh! 

And at the same time, these Krishna Kirtan type guys have launched zero lawsuits -- or any other factual concrete programs to fix this mess -- nor have they shown anything of substance since 1977, so they wanted that the one Dallas action that partially fixed things -- to have never happened. Not sure who made Krishna Kirtan the "decider in chief" that children should be abused and die from suicide, and this process should not be halted apparently -- by anyone? As Sulochana said, they are tossing children into a wood chipper, and we need to keep that process ongoing?

Anyway, he admits that the Dallas lawsuit helped fix some of these ongoing abuse and suicide issues (or it did for at least for a large number of victims) but he (and the Satanists?) did not want that result, they did not even want the lawsuit to have happened, which means they wanted the evil process to continue ongoing. Or what?         

Worship me!

Meanwhile, Krishna Kirtan's new hero messiah Krishna Balaram swami said he knew there were major "problems" in these GBC's schools and they thus needed to be SHUT DOWN, apparently even in the early 1980s. For that matter the official 2017 GBC report says there are still "troubles" in their schools and they should maybe be shut down NOW. Yet Krishna Balaram swami took no concrete steps to have these programs shut down that we know of. 

That means these "troubles" have been KNOWN to have been going on all along, apparently up to right now, and apparently right under the nose of Krishna Balaram swami, who has been right there in Vrndavana. And Krishna Balaram swami even admits he KNOWS these gurukuli problems have been ongoing there, thus these schools needed to be SHUT down, so he knew -- more than most other people did. So he is a gate keeper for this crucial information, and yet he squashed it? Isn't this called covering up for crimes? Or what?

Yet neither Krishna Kirtan and / nor his messiah Krishna Balaram swami did anything of substance to deal with these issues, and they still have not. Where is their lawsuit or public protest of these issues? All they are doing is saying they need to shut down our protest of these evil things by stopping us, which makes them on the same page as Kirtanananda and Radhanath, who also wanted to stop us. Parrots? Birds of a feather? 

Meanwhile, Krishna Kirtan is sort hijacking taking credit for helping Jvalamukhi, who was actually helped out of her Radhanath association by one of our direct PADA affiliates -- a lady who still calls us all the time, a lady who talked to me when she was at Jvalamukhi's house helping her by discussing the whole Radhanath process, and I was in the background advising the situation. 

So PADA and our affiliates helped Jvalamukhi, and no credit is given? Worse, Krishna Kirtan is trying to make it sound like the kulis whom we have helped, like Jvalamukhi by our coaching, should not have been helped by us? At all? He wants people to suffer, be abused, and maybe die? He is thus part the cause of these victims "having a bad attitude," because he is as heartless as the GBC, or he is even worse than them, because at least some of them agree these kulis needed some assist from us.     

So we should not have helped counsel victims AT ALL, great, then the Jvalamukhi sector cannot get our help. So, these guys want the victims to suffer and maybe even die? And if some of these folks commit suicide, so what? That is the best plan to fix things? As the Satanists want? 

At the same time, Krishna Kirtan has said that us (and evidently all the ex-kulis like Jvalamukhi) are like "flies going for the stools" because she sympathizes with the Windle Turley case, and she said it helped suicidal people, and she was one of those people.    

Yet Krishna Kirtan says he agrees with Radhanath's folks, we protesters need to be driven off the internet, because saving children from abuse and suicide is a horrible deviation. Well Radhanath's folks say the same EXACT thing, PADA needs to be shut down. Yep! They think alike, talk alike, act alike, because they are alike. Radhanath's people say something, Krishna Kirtan simply repeats what they say.

This is co-enabling child abuse and murder by doing this. Then, after these folks enable child abuse and murder by shutting down and demonizing the protesters, they wonder why their victims blame the religion? 

Its simple for some folks to see -- ok like the police -- who told me, they understand why these folks demonize our protest, these folks want to get us killed, so the abuse party can go on unchecked. Radhanath party says we are notorious hateful spinners, which is how these guys have covered up their whole molesting program the whole time, they discredit the victims and us. 

Krishna Kirtan is their gate keeper, he won't let anyone in to properly protest, he shuts that out, to keep the Satanic folks in power. He is their best defense system, and he has done a good job, his type of actions kept them in power all this time. Yep complaining of child molesting is "notorious spinning." Who knew?

Worse, Krishna Kirtan's mentor Krishna Balaram swami is simply a key part of the "conspiracy of silence" mentioned by a number of other ex-kuli victims. People like Krishna Balaram swami admit they knew, and they did not speak out properly. And now Krishna Kirtan is worshiping a ring leader in that conspiracy of silence process, leaders like Krishna Balaram swami. 

Of course its worse than that, Krishna Balaram swami now says he is the next successor to Srila Prabhupada and Krishna, and so Krishna Kirtan supports these hokey Srila Prabhupada imitations and wanna be's, who are all part of the same GBC style scheme to replace Srila Prabhupada with self - appointed fools. 

Srila Prabhupada said, this imitation of guru is "kill guru and become guru." And Krishna Kirtan is a card carrying supporter of that process. Then they come out and make pretend they are Srila Prabhupada's greatest defenders, when they fully support, and even worship these guru mara vidya fools. "Kill guru and become guru," and Krishna Kirtan is the biggest cheer leader of this program. And that is why shastra says, not only these guru killers go to hell, so do their supporters and cheer leaders i.e. himself. 

Yes, I am the eternal acharya jagat master, any questions?

Meanwhile Krishna Balaram swami says all the GBC's gurus and their followers are going to hell for their guru imitation, then he steps into their same boots and imitates his guru himself? He is doing what they are?

These guru killers are envious of the acharya, and that is also part of the Satanic movement Srila Prabhupada and later on Jvalamukhi have identified. So now Krishna Kirtan is further abusing children spiritually, by sending them off to worship another hokey messiah, which is ALSO what the GBC does. These imitation Jesus are cheating people and they are ALL directly promoting that deviation. 

The only good news is that Srila Prabhupada says that these false acharyas are absorbing the sins of others, and this will cause them problems in this life, and then they will take these accumulated sins with them into the next. So they will pay for this cheating. Of course that means Krishna Kirtan is himself doing EXTREME violence to Krishna Balarama swami himself, by encouraging KB Swami that he is another Jesus who can take sins. He is leading his own guru on a death march to the lower planets, never mind mis-guiding his co-gurukuli pals. And of course we have to be stopped, because we say people need to worship Srila Prabhupada and not Krishna Kirtan's false messiah's project.

In this way Krishna Kirtan is even killing his own guru off by promoting this cheating, his guru will not be able to burn off these sins and it will take him down. Srila Prabhupada said we neophytes cannot take sins, it will cause us to get sick, fall down, or die, and of course "go to the most obnoxious regions" when this is all finished at the time of death. Krishna Kirtan is simply cheating his gurukuli friends, and sending his bogus guru packing off to the lowest regions. And then after he promotes this massive guru fraud, he says we are spinning things? 

So Krishna Kirtan's first idea was to promote the acquiescing with bogus gurukula school fools like Krishna Balaram swami as his guru, never mind their criminal cover up process causes children to suffer, and maybe die. And now their new idea is to give these acquiescing fools the post of acharya, so they will suffer from taking sins, it seems they just want create more suffering, misery and death. No wonder they are against PADA, they are with the Satanic process wholesale, including hijacking the post meant for the pure devotee Srila Prabhupada.   

These people are not Prabhupada's successors, especially when they are participants in the criminal conspiracy of silence to continue child abuse in the holy dham of Krishna. Krishna Balaram swami even wears a beard despite Srila Prabhupada says none of his disciple will ever wear a beard. And:  

** The GBC buried Kirtanananda's carcass in Vrndavana right under KB swami's nose, but do we see KB swami out there making a public protest, or getting his followers to do so? Nope. Rather he says we are bogus ritviks, because we do not want to see these sexual predators buried in the holy dham under Radhanath's regime. Yep, we are bogus for protesting this defiling the holy dham and yet Krishna Balaram swami is a saint for having this odious affair going right on on his front doorstep, just like he had child abuse going on under his nose? Or what? 

*** Does he public protest of the bogus schools there? Nope.

*** Or public protest of the molester messiahs guru line worshiped in the holy dham? Nope.

*** And KB swami is an India citizen, so he can file an FIR on some or all these things, does he ever do so? Does he try to organize the locals to take action? Not that we know of? Why is he acquiescing with all these deviations in the holy dham? Then you guys wonder why people get the wrong impression of ISKCON, when acquiescing with all these deviations is how ISKCON got a bad name from the get go. 

Then Krishna Kirtan said, NONE of the other ex-kulis supports us. This is the worst lie we have heard in a long time, since ALL of the participants in the lawsuit are ALL ex-kulis. Krishna Kirtan even says they support him and not us, fine but he has no lawsuit for them to join? He has zero participants in zero legal effort to curb molesting. Zip. Nada. Zilch. 

According to reports from ex-kulis themselves, over 1,000 wanted to join the Turley lawsuit and maybe even up to 2,000 would have signed on, but it was cut back for technical reasons. Krishna Kirtan means to say 1 - 2,000 people are "no one"? Lets just say, the average person understands that 1 - 2,000 people is NOT no one, only this smart guy does not know this. 

Are we saying "no one" was abused? Or no one's abuse counts? Or these victims are no one in particular important? Why do these folks keep saying all victims are no one and nothing? That is how perps think, the victims are no one and nothing. Victims are no one? That is what mass murderers also say. Yes my victims are -- no one? These guys think like them, act like them, talk like them, because they are them. Yep no one agrees with PADA, ok well maybe a few thousand kulis, maybe a few thousand devotees, maybe a few million karmis, they are all no one?

Then, instead of saying that these problems should be stopped, Krishna Kirtan started crying, oh boo hoo the innocent people will have to pay for the lawsuit! You folks are not innocent people? The people who support child abuse regimes are not innocent people, why does Krishna Kirtan keep saying that they are? Maybe if you innocent folks have to pay money for making problems for others, you will wake up and stop doing that. 

Now you are griping, well sure, we have a lot of dead bodies on the bumper of our army tank, but boo hoo, now we have to pay money for doing that? You are begrudging your regime's victims getting fifty cents? If the fire department breaks down the door of the burning house, to save the victim babies inside, who are dying, Krishna Kirtan is only worried about who will pay for the broken door? The babies can all die, that's fine, but "the poor innocents" will have to pay for the door? So, we are saving shekels and not people, which is exactly what probably a hundred ex-kulis have told me, these Krishna Kirtan guys wanted to save their ill gotten money, and NOT save us!    

Save the door, not the babies inside? 

Yep, Jvalamukhi and others avoided suicide, they lived, and the Satanic think they all deserved to die. Who made them the executioner of all these hundreds of victimized children? Windle Turley wanted the ISKCON family members to live, the Satanic wanted their family members to die. Why do they want to kill their own family members? 

And why do the "demon lawyers" have to save your family, from the hands of yourselves? A number of kulis told me the only reason they have faith in the religion AT ALL is because of folks like me and a few others sticking up for them. And Krishna Kirtan is against that, because he is part the reason the victims have a bad attitude in the first place, the Satanic want the victims to suffer abuse and die, they are the cause of the bad attitude. 

To sum, the Windle Turley lawsuit was the best emergency option we had at the time, we had to break down the door and get the babies out of the burning building. We cannot save the burning building and the babies at the same time, nor did you guys save either. Anyway, I hope you guys saved enough of your stolen from Srila Prabhupada shekels to buy yourselves a new door, but even if you had a trillion dollars, you cannot un-victimize even one of your victims.

ys pd] 

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(Radhanatha swami is one of the main leaders of ISKCON)

Jvalamukhi Kopecka: As far as what I expected from Radhanath Swami when I approached him .... I thought, here is this pure devotee, so concerned, humble, and eager to serve. He has so much sway with his God brothers and in the society. Surely when he finds out about the Satanic Ritual Abuse in our society to our children, myself included, he will immediately do something just like our SP would have.

What I didn't know at the time was that he was their leader.

[PADA: These people are the bravest people in ISKCON today, they need to be supported and helped, we gave them a voice all along, and we are going to continue to do that no matter what. No wonder Krishna Kirtan wants to silence us, we are giving folks a platform to speak and he wants to SHUT THAT DOWN. So does the Radhanath process! These false gurus and their fanatics have given us grief all along, because they are not happy to see we are getting people to worship the pure devotee and not THEM! ys pd]

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