Madhurashtakam / Ekadasi / Radha Kunda Devotee / ISKCON Sorry State 08 26

PADA: Nice note from Europe, only PADA has the right version of everything. Thanks for the support! ys pd

TO A RADHA KUNDA DEVOTEE:

PADA: Yes, well the idea that Srila Prabhupada was preaching to the hippies, and we need to go somewhere else to get rasika -- is what the GBC has already said since 1980. I have not seen any good result from that application ever since. 

Yes, I do not believe these rasika people are bona fide because, we do not see their preaching to the mass of people being successful, then and now. Kusakratha made some translations of the Goswami writings, and I have some confidence in his work. 

At the same time, I am interested in Prabhupada's work of preaching practically, and that he was only giving the hippie version of Krishna is not helping anything in my opinion. None of these Radha Kunda babajis are preaching anything substantial -- especially among the Westerners -- and they are mainly siphoning people from Srila Prabhupada's program. ys pd 

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ISKCON's SORRY STATE

DD: What a sorry state of affairs when ISKCON's leaders appear to possess less moral reasoning even than that exhibited by leaders in the football / soccer world.
In recent days, there have been calls for senior leaders at Manchester United and the Spanish football association to step down over abuse and sexual impropriety allegations.

In the case of Manchester United, a promising young player was accused of sexual assault. Though legal action was called off - likely due to a settlement - the evidence of what transpired was compelling (recordings). The whole nation of the UK was aware. Yet the club's management - though they stood him down and eventually decided he shouldn't represent the club again - were slow to arrive at such verdicts (and also engaged in victim blaming and making it seem like the abuser was actually the victim. Public figures are now calling for the chairman to step down. This is how accountability works.

In the meantime, our ISKCON leaders are taking umbrage that people are even politely suggesting they do the same - despite their turning a blind eye to multiple reports of Anirdesya Vapu's countless egregious crimes against children (over decades). Even now, many in ISKCON India - and elsewhere - are trying to make the case that AVd is the one who has primarily been wronged.

With all the petulance of an immature teenager, India's CPO is determined to claim independence from international oversight - even as it disregards prior CPO restrictions over individuals guilty of abuse and reinstates them in the Society's schools.

In the case of the Spanish soccer federation, people are now calling for the head of a high ranking official who, without consent, kissed one of the national women's soccer team in the aftermath of their world cup win.

The world has had enough of abuse and abusers and is exhibiting zero tolerance - even in sporting contexts that have been historically blokey. Whereas in ISKCON, it appears that we have our very own brand of toxic masculinity - whereby if one happens to carry a danda then one has an unfettered license to transgress on the pretext of vaisnavera kriya mudra vijneya na bujhaya. Even ISKCON's Jimmy Saviles and Harvey Weinsteins and Brian Epsteins go "scot free" - continuing to receive worship and support.

How terribly backward

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KAILASA FOLKS UPDATE

OK so why are you saying Srila Prabhupada is making contradiction? He said we should promote the worship of the last link. Kailasa says that is bogus, we need to worship conditioned souls who can become demons. And now the Kailasa people are saying we should not worship anyone, just "the guru principle." 

Why do Kailasa people want us to worship conditioned souls, or no person at all, just "the guru principle"? And if you do not accept that the vani of the acharya is divyam jnanam that destroys sins (diksha), because we need to listen to people who can become demons, then what is the difference between you and Ravindra? ys pd