PADA: Right LW. Mahatma's people kicked me out when I was whistle blowing on the child abuse and other issues, and so we had to have them sued for $3,000,000 in 1986, sued again for $400,000,000 in 1997, then we helped the Karnataka case -- which cost Mahatma's program another maybe $20,000,000, and we helped the BBTI case -- which they lost another maybe $3,000,000.
OK Mahatma does not want us to criticize, while his program hides behind a giant wall of top-notch expensive San Fernando lawyers, actually the most expensive legal team in the country -- according to one source. And then the Jayapataka people complained that I cost the regime altogether to lose $100,000,000.
Yeah, but what is a mere $100,000,000? It is chicken change for these folks, because Mahatama's program would rather spend millions than to listen to us criticizing folks. Yes, again that is a fact: Mahatma's program would rather spend $100,000,000 than listen to us.
Meanwhile, all sorts of rank and file devotees were banned, beaten, molested, sued and killed. And losing probably tens of thousands of people also costs ISKCON millions. In fact a friend and accountant of mine said it has actually probably cost ISKCON around $3 billion over the past 45 years by draining all this money and an army of free volunteer service people from the society. Now they have to pay more and more for everything, such as salaries. But hey, they are rich, what is the problem?
Why are the Jayapataka people blaming me for their $100,000,000 expenses, when they are the people who blocked our complaints about the molesting and so many other issues? And yeah, that begs the question, who paid the $100,000,000, was it Mahatma, or does he drain out ISKCON to pay for all this?
But at the same time, we have to give the Mahatma program das a lot of credit. His program wanted to establish the worship of their illicit sex with men, women and children messiahs project, and have children worship their homosexuals / pedophiles / pervs / drunks / porno swamis / messiahs as God's successors, and even have their pedophile messiahs club leaders placed in samadhis -- so that little Vaishnava children can go to the dham and meditate on their pedophiles in samadhi process, and his program has accomplished that. Now they can all meet together and high five each other -- "we made a pedophile samadhi program, and we never thought we could do it! Job well done guys"!
First of all, the Mahatma program wanted us to have our children worship "the living pedophiles" and they have recently updated that process to having our children worship "the dead pedophiles and /or their enablers / in samadhi." A TV news crew was asking me about this situation, "what is pedophile samadhi"?
So even the ordinary man understands, this is all concoction by these homosexual and pedophile messiah's lover club folks, there is no such thing as "pedophiles in samadhi" in the Vedas, it is all made to create a horrible deviation so they can pollute the children of the world by having them worship their pedophile messiahs, living or dead.
A bona fide guru is "in samadhi" by thinking of Radha and Krishna, whereas the Mahatma program wants to transform that pure meditation to worshiping illicit sex with men, women and children as "samadhi." Or as one person told me recently "the GBC program smells like worship of rancid a**."
Not many people would dream of doing this, because it goes against all moral and religious principles, but his program was able to get their job done. Most people actually fear the wrath of God and so they would never make illicit sex with men, women and children as the successors to God, but as Srila Prabhupada explains, the demoniac have no regards for the teachings of God, and they will do demoniac things to destroy human society -- and destroy ISKCON and the children of ISKCON, as they have done. But we should not criticize, as they burn down the house.
ys pd
PADA: Well yes, first of all we have to love Mahatma's promoters of the worship of illicit sex with men, women and children messiahs, who create "industrial level child abuse" and / or anal reconstructive surgery epidemics and or / child beating and / or child raping. And they ban, beat, sue and kill anyone who does not want to promote their bogus messiahs project. And we love that process and its founder fathers!
But there is good news! Many former victims of Mahatma's pedophile messiahs project are coming forward now to testify to the atrocities against chidren and Vaishnavas his program has been producing. In fact, you could say -- it is a tidal wave of complainants coming forward presently. So we need to expose them, and we are, and we are getting thousands of helpers these days.
ys pd
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Prabhupada: "Be very careful. You are dealing with Krishna."
From John Hubner's Monkey on a Stick, pg 135-36....
"Prabhupada appointed us rtviks, not acharyas!" Ramesvara, the Los Angeles guru, screamed.
"There's no difference!" Hansadutta screamed back.
"There is so! There is, so!" Ramesvara said petulantly. "There's a huge difference. When he named us rtviks, Prabhupada made us generals. You guys want to be emperors."
"Call me a Napoleon if you want, as long as I get Australia," put in Bhavananda, Charles Backus, the GBC member in charge of building the Mayapur temple. "I pioneered Australia. It's mine."
"I did the same in South Africa. I'm claiming South Africa with Europe," said Bhagavan.
"How are you going to handle Europe and South Africa?" Ramesvara asked. "In case you haven't looked at a globe lately, they're rather far apart."
"I have devotees in both continents," Bhagavan said superciliously. "Geography is no barrier to love."
Prabhupada's eleven successors were seated on pillows, facing each other across a long, narrow table in the half-finished GBC room in the Mayapur temple. They had been meeting in the same room every day throughout February and March of 1978. They were trying, unsuccessfully so far, to determine the movement's future. Like Mafia dons carving out exclusive territories, they were dividing the world into fiefdoms.
Bhagavan slowly got to his feet and waited until all eyes were fixed on him. A tall, strikingly handsome former medical student from the University of Buffalo, Bhagavan was already infamous as the Krishna "Sun King." The faucets in his private bathroom were gold plated. He would eat only from gold plates and drink from gold goblets. He was chauffeured around Europe in a Mercedes 500.
When the silence was complete, Bhagavan pointed his finger at Tamal Krishna, whose cross-country campus crusade had irritated many temple presidents.
"I charge that man with lying and trying to steal my devotees," Bhagavan said. "My devotees love me and regard me as Prabhupada's legitimate successor. And now I learn that Tamal has sent letters to certain devotees claiming that he and he alone is Prabhupada's successor, and that devotees must surrender to him."
"I am the only one really qualified to lead the movement," said
Tamal, who claimed the American Southwest and the island of Fiji, as well as several other Pacific islands.
Tamal, who claimed the American Southwest and the island of Fiji, as well as several other Pacific islands.
Kirtanananda shook his head. When this is over, he told himself, they'll see that there is only one true succcessor swami fit to lead ISKCON: Kirtanananda Swami Bhaktipada.
"Let's go back to the subject of Vyasasanas," Ramesvara said. "Let's start by trying to settle this chair thing."
"Each guru must have his own vyasasana," Bhagavan said.
"Absolutely right," Hansadutta said.
"What about when another guru visits? Where will he sit?" Ramesvara asked.
"Good point," Bhagavan said. "Symbols are very important, and what talks louder than furniture? I propose that each temple have three vyasasanas right next to each other. One will be Prabhupada's forever. We'll rope it off and put his picture on it so that no one will even think of sitting there. A second will be for the local guru, and the third will be reserved for visiting gurus. That way, every devotee will instantly know that we are now equal to Prabhupada."
"If we're equal, I suppose we're supposed to get puja, too?" Ramesvara asked, referring to the ceremony in which devotees worship their spiritual masters.
"But of course," Kirtanananda said.
"Absolutely correct," Hansadutta added. He closed his eyes and imagined the ritual. It pleased him to think about how he would at last receive the obeisances he so richly deserved. Finally, he would be worshiped as he should be—as a "pure devotee," a link between God and man.
He saw himself seated on his vyasasana. In his mind, Hansadutta watched a devotee blow a conch shell three times and ring a small bell. Then another devotee approached and offered a stick of incense.
The devotee circled Hansadutta's feet with the smoldering stick three times, then circled his chest twice and his entire body seven times. The devotee then did the same with a camphor wick, a ghee lamp, water, a handkerchief, and a flower. Hansadutta smiled. He could practically feel the devotee fanning him with a yak's-tail whisk and peacock feathers.
"Our godbrothers will never go for it," Ramesvara said, interrupting Hansadutta's daydream. "For years, we've all been more or less equal. Then Prabhupada dies, and all of a sudden we're baby Prabhupadas."
"That's your mistake." Bhagavan said, leaping to his feet. Once again, he waited for silence. "We're not demanding to be worshiped just because we want to raise ourselves above our godbrothers. We're only doing it because we love them. Worshiping a spiritual master is a vital part of every devotee's faith. We have to appear absolute, or their faith will be shaken. We have to be worshiped just like Prabhupada, or our disciples won't think we're his equal."
"Devotees will offer puja willingly because they love us," Kirtanananda interrupted. "You cannot check their love."
"That's right," Hansadutta added. "This movement has always been about love."
The room was silent for a moment. Ramesvara looked troubled.
Bhagavan walked over to him and put his hand on his shoulder. "Don't you see? You've got no choice," Bhagavan said. "You've got to accept puja. We all do. We've got to be absolutely consistent. If even one of us does not go along with the program, we'll all look fallible. Come on, Ramesvara, for the good of the whole movement. So, what do you say?"
Ten pairs of eyes bored into Ramesvara. "Maybe you're right," he sighed.
"Prabhupada always said we're an autocratic movement. The authority of the spiritual master has to be absolute. If you doubt him, you doubt the link to Krishna and everything falls apart."
"Absolutely right," Bhagavan said.
"I'll go along with it," Ramesvara conceded. "But I want you to know I'm not going to be comfortable, sitting up there on the Vyasasana receiving puja from some devotee who knew me when I was Bobby Grant. It just doesn't feel right. I don't know, but maybe I'll get used to it."
"Of course, you will!" Bhagavan cried enthusiastically. "It's new for all of us. But we'll get used to it."
"Let's finish working out who gets what," said Hansadutta, who had staked his claim to Berkeley, the Philippines, Sri Lanka, and several temples in India. "My devotees need me."
"As mine need me," echoed Tamal.
"And mine, me," added Bhagavan.
It took another week to finish carving up the world. As soon as the meeting concluded, the newly minted gurus hastened to return to their temples. Comfortably settled in first-class seats, they congratulated themselves on the agreement.
But only a few were satisfied. The rest were scheming to seize control. When the Palace of Gold is finished, devotees everywhere will visit New Vrindaban and see that only the true acharya could build such a splendid temple, Kirtanananda told himself as he winged his way back to the States. I don't have to take over the movement; the movement will come to me.
I'll send sankirtan parties all over Europe, Bhagavan planned. I'll buy palaces and convert them into temples and recruit the wealthiest people in every country. I'll turn ISKCON into the modem equivalent of the Holy Roman Empire.
I'm going to build a magnificent temple in Fiji, Tamal promised himself. The population is already half Hindu and growing. I'll convert them all and turn Fiji into the first Krishna Consciousness nation on earth. When that happens, no one will be able to deny that I am the next acharya.
Hansadutta's plans were simpler. His whole life, he had been controlled by authority figures. First, his father, then his commanders in the Navy, and finally Prabhupada. Even Himavati, his ex-wife (they separated because Hansadutta insisted on taking a vow of sannyas) had tried to control him in her own gentle way. But now, for the first time, he was free, free of all control. He was a guru. He could do whatever he wanted; he could tell people to do things and they would do them.
He strapped on his seatbelt and grinned. He could hardly wait to get back to Berkeley and find out what real freedom was all about.
IMAGES: (top L) Hansaadutta's mug shot after the zonal acharya was arrested for shooting up a Cadillac dealership and liquor store in Berkeley as an "act of renunciation."
(top R) Kirtanananda Swami on his way to court. He ordered the murder of Sulochan and paid the hitman, though only a fraction of what he promised him.
(Bottom) Zonal acharya Jayatirtha created a LSD cult and reportedly also ordered the "disappearance" of at least one dissenter who was found drowned in Nepal. He got his when an ex-follower beheaded him with a knife.
(Bottom) Zonal acharya Jayatirtha created a LSD cult and reportedly also ordered the "disappearance" of at least one dissenter who was found drowned in Nepal. He got his when an ex-follower beheaded him with a knife.
JD: "Don't find fault with our pedophile guru program that is stuffing your kids up the bum, because that would mean ... you just want to make yourself look very important."
ReplyDeleteIs this their bumper sticker slogan? I think it is a good explanation of their whole thing. I love it. That means, I just want to make myself look important?
Where do they come up with this garbage? Anyone who does not want to have their kids worship a pedophile guru cult is ... trying to look important? WTF? Even the dumbest person in class knows this is bogus. They are not dumb ... they are asuras.