My step mother Anuradha said they threatened they would kill Goura Govinda, was I happy about it is a result of my protest against Lokanath at the Prabhupada centennial festival. My father Jagadatma simply smiled and nodded and said leave her alone it's done no point crying over spilt milk.
After Goura Govinda swami had passed away I saw all 5 of them speaking with each other a number of times to discuss what happened and they told me it wasn't my fault it would have happened anyway not to be upset. Chaitanya Chandra, Advaita Acharya now Gopinath, Atmarama drew the short straw and administered the poison, Anuradha and Jagadatma were the 5 devotees involved in removing Goura Govinda swami. They said they had no choice. It had to be done for the good of Iskcon International society for Krishna consciousness.
PADA: Gaura Govinda Maharaja had said that he was going to get the "local brahmanas" (Gaudiya Matha) to make a public protest at the temple that the GBC is saying the jeevas fell from Vaikuntha (which is what Srila Prabhupada says). Of course "local brahmanas" are really Gaudiya Matha folks, who believe we fell from brahmajyoti (which is mayavada).
Gour Govinda Swami: The GBC body has already condemned it. We have also issued our paper that was published in the ISKCON journal. Very clear. The GBC has rejected that idea. That is not accepted. That is not the view of Prabhupada. That is neither the Vaiṣṇava process, nor the Gaudiya Vaiṣṇava process at all. No. There is no such process in the Gaudiya process, Gaudiya dhārā, no.
Q & A at Forest Hills, Queens, New York – November 9, 1991
PADA: Yep, Gaura Govinda maharaja wanted us to worship his homo and pedo pals as our acharyas, and they might have taken him out. Strange how that would happen, the people you want to be worshiped as messiahs -- as good as God, wanted you dead.
Or as one devotee said, being with the GBC is like falling into a pit of snakes -- or going to an Ozark's venemous snake handling church. And the problem is, GGM was trying to make these snakes into Krishna's gurus, and he thought he was clever and he could handle these venemous snakes, but he got fatally bit by the same snakes he was handling. ys pd
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PA: I begged Goura Govinda swami for help with being sexually abused repeatedly then gave up the last time when he asked me if it had stopped as I just couldn't face another beating for telling him yet again -- they were still at it.
PADA: In other words -- GGM is not going to lift a finger to help her ... and that means the day will come when he will be a child who is begging for help -- and none will ever come. ys pd
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PADA: Some folks have argued with me that some of these "victim accounts" are not fully accurate. Well maybe yes and maybe no, but something horrible for sure happened to all these folks -- or they would not be telling these kinds of stories AT ALL.
No normal kids ever tell these kinds of stories, clearly something terrible happened to her -- or else her and a number of other ex-kuli children -- would not be sharing these kinds of stories, at all. As one devotee said, these children's lives would have made Stephen King novels look like nothing scary at all. ys pd
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A Devotee: The site for the new temple at Auckland, New Zealand, had been excavated, revealing the fawn-coloured clay beneath the top soil. Two gurukula girls, both aged ten, were walking around the temple construction site when they spotted the boy's gurukula ashram teacher. He was fashioning a lump of clay in his hands as he signalled for them to come to him.
As they neared he showed them the clay object he'd made, a cylindrical shaped object.
"Tell me what this is", he said to the girls.
"That's a banana", replied one of the girls.
The ashram teacher sniggered. "It's a BIG banana".
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This same ashram teacher had tried to strip me naked in public. As I resisted, pulling away with all of my might, he let me go with a push, sending me full force into a door frame, splitting my forehead open, blood gushing everywhere.
They drove me in haste to the Kumeu Medical Centre, where the doctor injected a local anaesthetic and put seven stitches in. When I look in the mirror I still see the scar. It's half on my forehead and half above my hairline.
"You really need to watch where you're running from now on", said the doctor, whose name was William Calverley, as he finished putting in the stitches. On the drive back to New Varshana, I was reminded that I was not to tell anyone what actually happenned.
Bhavananda, who we called Srila Vishnupada, was soon to visit.
"Srila Vishnupada will give you an extra cookie", I was told.
(During his NZ visits, Bhavananda, "Srila Vishnupada", would sit on a vyasasana and hand out luxurious biscuits and cookies to the devotees. Sometimes he would take a bite from a cookie and throw the remainder into a swirling crowd of brahmacaris who would literally shove and fight to get the "special prasadam".)
I don't remember getting any extra cookie from Srila Vishnupada as a result of my head injury, but I do remember the weird pain of telling everyone a lie, of bottling up what actually happened.
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The boy's ashram teacher was at some stage transferred to pujari service. All of us gurukula kids would wake up for mangal arati. After Mangal arati, we would line up on the wooden verandah of the temple and two kids would be selected to collect milk sweets from the pujari.
We had a round plastic container for the milk sweets and they were taken back to the gurukula where we'd each get one sweet along with a cup of hot milk. When the boy's ashram teacher became the pujari, he was waiting in the deity room for the kids to come and collect the milk sweets.
He would part his dhoti to reveal an erection, and tell the children that they had to touch his penis if they were to get the milk sweets. Eventually he was outed as one of the girls (who he had fashioned the clay "banana" in front of) told her friend, who in turn told her father.
"He passes this funny white stuff when we touch his genitals", the girls said.
My mother told me that he "hung his head in shame" and "admitted everything" when summoned in front of the temple committee.
He was put on the next available flight out of New Zealand, to Sydney, Australia, where he became the pujari.
V Dasi: More disgusting evidence this is a molester cult. His name should be revealed so that people should know to keep their kids away from him and he should also be banned from temple premises.
MK: 100% agree!! The wife knows already anyway ... and if he had been arrested and sent to jail (which he should have been!!) she would have been "embarrassed" and felt bad, of course! But what is more important?! To be concerned her feelings or to avert any more possible REAL AND TRAUMATIC damage to children?!
I commend you, GP Dasa for your kind and thoughtful manner, but this is a case where the public needs to be alerted! AND the man needs to be PUBLICLY SHAMED at the very least!! AND the GBC and "temple authorities" once again need to be admonished! One more instance of pastoral abuse coming to light! Thoroughly disgusting!!
YD: Unfortunately, many people have been killed by beating, poison, bullets, or other means. For example ... children who committed suicide ...killed by other means. Devotees who died from drugs ... killed by other means. Some devotees said to have died from tantric curses ... is possible. Aindra ... maybe killed first and then set on fire later ... who can say.
ReplyDeleteGaura Govinda maharaja was really just another victim. But ... he should have known ... he cannot help them and criticize at the same time ... toxic brew. They are going to have to come after him. At the same time ... they are killing themselves ... falling down, drugs, eating like a pig like Jayapataka ... taking karma and dying. And what else who can say.
Everyone can die in this scenario. It is what happens when people imitate pure devotees ... everything become cursed and the whole thing is destroyed by Krishna's tricks. They destroy others and they are destroyed at the same time ... Krishna has to clamp down on them ... and He does. It might take time ... but time is inevitable and never stops.