He says we cannot see the guru as an ordinary man, this is an offense.
[PADA: OK! But Banu's GBC's "gurus" are often falling into illicit sex with men, women and children, and maybe cats, which means -- his gurus are not as advanced as ordinary men. Ordinary men are not this degraded.
Why doesn't Banu select -- say for example -- a San Francisco trash collector as his guru, because the trash collector man does not engage in illicit sex with men, women, children and cats?
Why not try to find somewhat more elevated people to be his messiahs? It looks like Banu goes all the way to the bottom of the barrel of bad qualities to find his gurus? How many average people walking down the street think that illicit sex with men, women, children, and cats, is found contained in a chain of God's gurus?]
We have to offer respect to ALL the gurus.
[PADA: Includes evidently: the bona fide gurus and / or the GBC's pedophile gurus, or members of the pedophile guru lineage, like Banu swami? Where does Srila Prabhupada say we should offer respects to both the bona fide gurus, and their pedophile gurus, and / or the members of their pedophile guru's lineage -- like Banu swami?
Banu swami is voted into the GBC's oral sex with taxi driver's in the dham guru parampara, which has to be sued for $400,000,000 for mass child abuse, and we should respect this parampara because? Why?]
We have to see the guru as "non-different from the Lord."
We have to see the guru as "non-different from the Lord."
[PADA: Which includes GBC's illicit sex gurus?]
We have to see the guru as shaksat Hari tvena, he has a position like the Lord.
[PADA: Oooops, illicit sex with men, women and children is not the same position as the Lord.]
The guru is giving diksha,
[PADA: The GBC's pedophile guru lineage members are absorbing sins like Jesus? They cannot absorb their own sins.]
The guru must be qualified.
[PADA: And that is why the GBC hand selects illicit sex deviants and pedophiles as their qualified gurus?]
Banu swami was personally trained in deity worship.
[PADA: Which is why ISKCON offers bhogha to persons sometimes engaged in illicit sex with men, women and children? Or their enabling hand maidens?
Sorry, this begs more questions than answers. I personally rented a room in a Christian family's home for 5 years, and they always pray and offer grace before they eat -- to Jesus -- there is no way they would ever offer grace to homosexuals, crooks, perverts and pedophiles, it is not done by religious people anywhere.
This deviation is only found in the Banu process. Why does Banu think deviants can absorb sins as diksha gurus, and thus deviants are on the same platform as Jesus? And we can offer bhogha to pedophiles, the same way Christians say grace to Jesus?
OK he can answer if he likes, but most people already know the answer, none of this is authorized by God or any agents of God. angel108b@yahoo.com
ys pd]
LW: These people keep saying ... the sinful can absorb the sins of the other sinfuls. That is like saying ... the downtown homeless drunks ... should be placed in the charge of the city alcohol rehab program. That will make things worse. Much worse!
ReplyDeleteThey seem to have no idea ... sinful people cannot take the sins of other sinful people. They will all go downhill. Then they wonder how persons like Paramadvaiti, Satsvarupa and many others could go total bonkers, and many other of them are sick or dead, but they see no cause for that?
No one is allowed to promote themselves as another Jesus ... unless they are another Jesus ... might have something to do with all this mayhem? Even ordinary man never claims to be another Jesus ... he knows that taking sins will take him to hell.
These people have no clue about this ... because they are less advanced than ordinary people. I like his chart "the guru gives divyam jnanam and takes the sins" ... takes the sins where? What a pack of fools. They think they are another Jesus ... like the mental patients. That is why a gurukuli friend of mine says "this will only be fixed when all of them are gone ... they have no brains how to fix it themselves."
PADA: Yes JD we have to admire the simplicity of their plan to hi-jack the ISKCON buildings.
ReplyDeletea) Jesus is taking sins.
b) Drunks, crooks, sexual predators, porno swamis, pedophiles etc. are also taking sins like Jesus.
c) Any questions? Raise your hand.
d) All who raised your hands have to get out of ISKCON.
e) Voila! We have empty buildings to make a Hindus congregation hall business!
Yep, that does seem like their whole plan all along, and unfortunately, it worked. That seems like it was their whole plan the whole time, I agree.
I also agree, this guy can make all sorts of charts to prove that his pedophile's guru parampara can absorb sins like Jesus, but that does not mean it is factually going to happen, because it will never get the approval of the higher authorities. Rather the higher authorities will punish them severely.
ys pd
SD DASI: The Vedic knowledge is passed on to us like a ripe mango is passed on from one pure devotee to the next. We worship the pure devotee and we get the divyam jnanam from him ... and he removes our sins.
ReplyDeleteWait! That is wrong says Mr. Banu! The ripened mango goes into the hands of his homosexuals ... pervs and pedophiles ... condom padas and predator friends. Then we worship them to get our hands on the ripened mango. But by now ... the ripened mango smells like a sewer pipe coming from a broken toilet. Sorry ... we have to exit the temple ... someone passed gas and a lot more here.
So then ... great plan ... their temples are empty. Yes, that does sound like their whole plan to empty the buildings. Is it just me ... or does anyone else think Krishna hands off the ripe mango of Vedic knowledge to a pedophile worshiping cult than bans and removes us? I really doubt Krishna had anything to do with all this.
They wanted to turn ISKCON into a sewer ... and they did.
Srila Prabhupada: The rascals, they fail, because they do not say anything which Kṛṣṇa says. He manufactures something. He wants to take the place of Kṛṣṇa. This rascaldom will never make you happy. You have to follow as Caitanya Mahāprabhu says, yāre dekha, tāre kaha 'kṛṣṇa'-upadeśa (CC Madhya 7.128). Then you become guru. To become guru is not at all difficult, provided you follow the right instruction of Caitanya Mahāprabhu. Then everyone can become—expand, expand. You have learned something about Kṛṣṇa consciousness, now you rightly distribute them, then you will increase your group. But if you want to manufacture something of your own concoction, that will not act. That will not . . . that will be gramophone. No. (break)
ReplyDelete. . . actually penetrating, āpani ācari prabhu jīvere śikhāya. Caitanya Mahāprabhu says that you have to act accordingly as it is instructed, āpani ācari, then you can teach others. If you do not act yourself, your words will have no value. (break) . . . because it cut. Evaṁ paramparā prāptam (BG 4.2), if you have got connection with the original powerhouse, then there is electricity. Otherwise it is simply wire. What is the value? Simply wiring will not help you. The connection must be there. And if you lose the connection, then it is of no value. Therefore Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement means you have to keep yourself always connected with the original powerhouse. And then wherever you'll go, there will be light. There'll be light. If you're disconnected, there will be no light. The bulb is there, the wiring is there, the switch is there. Everything is there. That's how Arjuna is feeling that, "I am the same Arjuna. I am the same Arjuna who fought in the Battlefield of Kurukṣetra. I was known as so great a warrior, and my bow is the same bow, and my arrow is the same arrow. But now it is useless. I could not defend myself, because disconnected with Kṛṣṇa. Kṛṣṇa is no longer." Therefore he began to remember the words of Kṛṣṇa which was taught to him in the Battle of Kurukṣetra. 731206 - Lecture SB 01.15.28 - Los Angeles