Swarup Das joined the ISKCON movement in the summer of 1969 and was initiated by Srila Prabhupada December 26, 1969.
"The fact that so many children in ISKCON were abused, mistreated, neglected and worst of all sexually molested is extremely disturbing and horrific. The policy set forth by those in leadership positions, whether spiritual or administrative, should be one of zero tolerance. Covering up or in any way excusing such behavior only serves to exacerbate the harm inflicted upon the victims of these predators. It shouldn’t matter that many years elapsed since the time the crime was committed.This sannyasi admitted to what he is accused of doing, and there is only one course of action for him. He has to beg forgiveness from the person he has wronged, voluntarily step away from any and all positions of material and spiritual authority and go on with his sadhana in an honest, humble and penitent state of mind.
The other consideration is that if he is unwilling to do the right thing then the institutional authorities are duty-bound to censure him and strip him of any and all positions of authority currently held by him. Unless these steps are taken both the individual and the institution cannot move forward.
[PADA: Sounds like all sorts of "Johnny come lately" folks are coming around to join PADA in addressing the child molesting issue. Very nice, better late than never. A lot of these same people formerly said PADA is foolish, offensive -- and so forth -- over the years -- and that has simply enabled and empowered the bad guys -- and the molesting infrastructure. If the opposition / whistleblower is getting attacked, if not chopped down, that only helps the evil doers move forward. And it has.
Meanwhile, we keep getting more and more folks on board all the time -- such as, an ex-disciple of a GBC guru who says "us samkirtana collectors have been treated like money collecting slaves, while they have been living like Kings. And once we slaves can no longer produce a lot of cash, we are tossed away like a used kleenex."
Another lady friend of PADA from India said, "It is simple -- the GBC has to keep Lokanath in the post of guru -- to keep the $$$ coming in. This is all about cash, straight up, and that is all it ever has been about." So perhaps now even Swarup Hebel sees, our opposition approach is the increasingly popular opinion, the winds are shifting, so he is turning a corner and joining in with the dissenters. Again, goody for him. Credit must be given where credit is due.
At the same time, over the years Swarup Hebel and his pals like Bhakta das have been sometimes our worst critics. For example these guys have called us "poop smellers" "sewer dwellers" "barking dogs" "offenders to great devotees like Jayadvaita and Radhanath" and similar things. Right, but at least we are trying to clean out the sewer and your interfering is making the stink worse.
And these guys were always laughing and joking, "oh yea PADA is always talking about homosexuals, pedophiles, beatings, murders and other foolishness." Child molesting is some sort of comedy hour joke for these guys? Well it is not for the victims!
At the same time, while we are addressing the ISKCON's children being molested issue, to say that is a "poop smelling issue" means, these guys seem to be equating children with -- poop? I am complaining about the mistreatment of women and children, and that means -- I am discussing / defending -- a pile of poop?
And then these guys make pretend they do not know how their burying the child abuse issue -- is empowering, enabling and facilitating the industrial level abuse regime? It is like when Lord Balarama was at the chess game, and all the cheaters were all laughing and joking at the cheating. Why is child abuse a laughing joke matter for these people?
One of the victims told PADA, that means the day is coming, and soon, when these people like Swarup Hebel and Bhakta Das will be suffering like we were, or worse, and they will be calling out for help, like we were, and everyone around them will be laughing and saying -- "why should we help these smelly piles of poops"? What goes around comes around.
In short! They also won't get any help when they are suffering -- just like they did not help us when we were suffering -- and worse -- they were calling us children a pile of smelly poops. That is the way they treat others, and so that is the way they will be treated. What one does to others -- happens in kind to oneself later. Well I agree!
As we see below Swarup Hebel thinks people like PADA, i.e. those who are addressing things like child abuse and other crimes -- are farting, shitting, vomiting, pissing, in sum -- vomiting self righteous crap etc. OK what comes around goes around pilgrims. All of the people who throttled our complaints about the child abuse are part of the conspiracy to enable and empower it, and that is why it became industrial level abuse. Anyway, like we said, better late than never.
And Swarup Hebel's pals like Bhakta das and Srutasrava also ran off to the Gaudiya Matha, the same program that creates homosexuals, deviants, criminals and mayavadas as their acharyas over there. Again, they have never cleared this up -- along with many other things like, why have they been attacking the people defending the children? Anyway, lets see what happens. Swarupa Hebel is at least finally saying that our society's children are not merely smelly farts, pissing, vomit, poops and worse, and they should be protected, so that is a start.
And we really cannot print some of the foul language comments from victims when they hear these guys are saying PADA's defending children is -- a program about poop. Suffice it to say, these guys are seen as the self righteous offenders, who are drowning in poop, to many folks. So these guys were running around joking and laughing and name calling, when the citizens were getting banned, beaten, molested, sued and -- killed. OK which is why a number of people call these guys -- diabolical, soul-less, narcissistic psychopaths.
In any event, a society cannot function when it acquiesces with child abuse, or worse, defends the regime. We either fix this issue, or our society is doomed. And more and more people are agreeing with that assessment.
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PADA: Thanks for your question M Dasi. Yes Swarupa was in New Vrndavana, which has been a haven for molesting. When the CBS TV news went there and saw Kirtanananda sitting on a big seat, covered with the hands of dozens of boys, they said to me -- this is pedophile heaven. Why has Swarupa wanted children to worship Jayadvaita's pedophile heaven program? And Swarupa and his pals never called the police on any molesting incident that we know of, to protect his molesters pals. Instead they call the police on us to have us removed.
ReplyDeleteJayadvaita says our children have to worship his illicit sex with men, women and children guru program -- and Swarupa says he cannot tolerate anyone criticizing Jayadvaita, mastermind leader of the pedophile guru's parampara. So they are forcing children to worship their pedophiles as messiahs project, and they cannot tolerate anyone who attacks their program. And they call us evil names, to target us as offenders, so they can get us killed, and they have got some of us killed.
As soon as we say there is a molesting program, we are offending Swarup's pals like Jayadvaita and moreover our idea of defending children is defending piss, farts, stools, poops, vomit, and I am in the sewer. So defending their own society's children is -- defending piss, farts, stools, poops, vomit and a stinky sewer system? Yep, sorry this is all recorded, they cannot deny any of this.
And some of the ex-children say their trying to chop the legs off my protest simply -- aided and abetted the molesters. They simply increased 20 molestings into 2,000 by their process. I cannot argue with that either.
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LD: Oh for real? We cannot tolerate offenses to Jayadvaita swami ... one of the biggest gun defenders of the GBC's bogus "crashing jumbo jets" gurus ... while the children are meanwhile being "offended" in horrible manner. There is their problem right there. They defend worship of liars, perverts and criminals ... and then say ... oh poor us ... we don't know why there are so many victims.
ReplyDeleteSorry but not flying. We already know why there are so many victims. These Swarup Hebel and JAS "senior devotees" are night and day making a system that is creating more victims. Day in and out. And Lokanath followers are victims now ... they are cheated. And they are crying ... oh poor Lokanath followers are distressed ... really? Why did you give them a bogus guru? I forgot ... we cannot make offenses to the people giving them and their children bogus gurus.
They are protecting the leaders of the molester MAFIA, and not protecting the children ... who are the victims. Jayadvaita is one of the leaders of the whole idea ... these children need to surrender to ... and take shelter of ... a GBC guru ... and then we all know what happens next to most of these children. They already know what happens ... and so they load up more victims.
Bhakti vikas swami says ... they are really loading up one dangerous jumbo jet full of victims after the next ... watching them crash and burn ... and then loading up another jumbo jet full of victims. And we cannot make offenses to the people loading up these crashing jumbo jets ... with ISKCON children. Then we wonder why ISKCON is missing all its children ... like the Pied Piper took them all away.
This is the whole trouble right here. They think they are authorized to load up their bogus crashing jumbo jets and sit around and watch them crash one after the next ... make a big fire ball ... and after that they load another group of thousands of children into their bogus jumbo jets ... like nothing is wrong.
They loaded up their bogus jumbo jet with children ... then they cannot figure out ... how the children were harmed or even they are dead ... from their planes crashing one after another, and another. But everyone else knows why these children got into the fiery crash ... they put them on the plane ....
I forgot. They put vomit, piss and stools onto the plane ... who cares if it all burns up? Really? These people would run over their own grand mother to collect the insurance? What kind of people are they?