Thursday, October 21, 2021

ISKCON Needs Pedophile Messiahs "For its Health"? (Govindanandini Dasi)

[PADA: Heh heh! Here we go again! ISKCON leaders after 1978 already added to its "chain of messiahs from heaven": illicit sex with men, women, children, oral sex with taxi drivers in the dham, and maybe sex with cats; and drug addicts, drunks, porno swamis etc. -- all as part of their alleged chain of God's successors and Krishna's guru parampara. 

Now we need to add "inappropriate touching of young girls." What else can we add to their "links of gurus in a chain from God"? Hee hee, it never ends. 

They keep adding new bogus species of gurus to their guru parampara more each day. More amazing, we need to worship pedophiles as Krishna's guru successors "to contribute to the health of ISKCON." Ummm, nope, that makes ISKCON more diseased than ever. Worship of pedophiles is "good for the health" -- of pedophiles and their enablers, not for the society at large -- or for children.

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We need to worship persons who are in the grips of Maya Devi, to free others from the grips of Maya Devi? And we are teaching prisoners to worship an illicit sex with men, women and children, and cats "guru parampara from God" thinking that will save them? Worse, we are telling people worship of Jesus is "the bogus Christian ritviks idea," so worship of pedophiles is superior to worship of Jesus? 

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[PADA: Same Govindanandini? In any case, another follower of the Dandavats molester's messiah's project.] 


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Well-written [by Govindanandini] and reasonable, Mataji. This letter is an important contribution to the good health of ISKCON. Thank you. Mahadyuti Swami

On 19. Oct 2021, at 05:20, Govindanandini Dasi (Secretary - NA LNS Support
Team) <govindseva@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Basu Ghosh Prabhu,

Please accept our humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada

We, the undersigned, are more than twenty ISKCON leaders serving in North
America (NA). Our group is comprised of: Srila Prabhupada disciples, temple
presidents, leading congregational devotees, preachers etc. Each of our
group’s leaders represents anywhere from dozens to hundreds of devotees in good standing, residing and serving in NA. 

All of us (ourselves and our constituencies), have become disturbed at how Lokanath Maharaja is being dealt with by the North American Leadership Council (NALC).

For many years now things have been going along fine between Lokanath
Maharaja and ISKCON NA. Maharaja has been invited by NA leaders to visit, give
classes, lead kirtan, conduct seminars, and give initiations. All of this has been
going on, without any difficulty. Recently though, some devotees complained on
social media about Maharaja’s case; a case which had long since been adjudicated, voted on, and fully closed by the entire GBC Body. 

[PADA: But perhaps not closed for the thousands of molesting victims of the Lokanath regime, Satya being one of them.] 

Keep in mind that no new evidence or allegations were presented in these online complaints. Nonetheless, within just a few days of some posts appearing on social media, the NALC chose to suspend Lokanath Maharaja from being an initiating-guru in NA. In our humble opinion, this was done quite passionately and hurriedly, without deep thought and consideration.

The NALC did not stop at suspending Maharaja in NA. Although the NALC does
not itself have the authorization to suspend someone globally, it went to the GBC
Executive Committee (EC), and convinced them to initiate an international
investigation knowing that such an investigation would trigger an automatic
global suspension of Maharaja.

[PADA: The investigation never happened in the first place, the CPO was blocked from doing that. Of course gurus do not need to be investigated for wrong doing.]

We think the EC made a serious error by acquiescing to the hurried demands of
the NALC, given that nothing was presented by the NALC that might warrant the
EC re-opening a case that the entire GBC Body had already formally voted to
close years prior. 

It is our understanding that the EC’s authority doesn’t permit them to just supersede the decisions taken by the entire GBC body, especially without anything new being presented to them.

ISKCON’s own website and communication system was used to publicize
Maharaja’s suspension. These over-the-top, sudden actions, and the publicizing of them, can most readily be explained as the NALC bowing to the pressure it felt from social media. Again, things had been going along just fine with Maharaja in
NA for years, until some online complaints were made, and then everything
suddenly changed. 

We are very concerned that the NALC became so easily influenced by social media. Perhaps the NALC was concerned about bad PR, or perhaps it was concerned about being criticized for how it had originally handled the case. 

[PADA: The case was never settled originally. Satya was told Lokanath would not have a post of authority, and that was not done.]

Or maybe some on the the NALC had wanted to ban Maharaja years before (but had been out-voted by the GBC body). Or there might be some other reason that we are not aware of.

Regardless, these rash decisions were eventually challenged by the unanimous
vote of every Indian temple president (over 160 of them), and Maharaja’s
suspension was rescinded to some extent. However, efforts to remove and/or
retry Lokanath Maharaja are still continuing (and this time with international
GBC support). 

[PADA: India's leaders bury pedophiles and sex with cats in a samadhi in the dham. Just because 160 people vote to promote a homosexual, pedophile and sex with cats guru parampara does not make it valid.] 

It is now going on in the name of a newly - convened review panel, but functionally this amounts to a re-opening of the case. Given that no new evidence or allegations are being presented, this current course of action still seems to be committing the same fundamental mistake of double jeopardy, that the NALC made previously.

[PADA: They promised the victim Lokanath would not hold a post of authority, that was never done, so they case has never been settled.]

All of the above is very disconcerting to our group of NA ISKCON leaders and
our communities. We agree with the well-informed and unanimous decision of
160 + Indian TPs, namely, that the GBC needs to immediately and permanently close Lokanath Maharaja’s case. We are especially disturbed about any attempts
being made by outside forces, to control how ISKCON India chooses to deal with this issue within India. 

[PADA: But ISKCON India already has people worshiping their homosexual, pedophile, and sex with cats samadhi. Why should the rest of the world want to agree to their sex with cats pooja idea? Worse, people in India like Bhakti Vikas swami are saying we cannot be like the bogus Christians, because -- they don't worship homosexuals and pedophiles in a samadhi? They worship a pure devotee and we cannot do that!]

Please consider that most of us became devotees because of the preaching of ISKCON India, and we are all still very committed to supporting them, even though we faithfully serve ISKCON in NA. 

Just a couple of days ago, some NALC members and others tried to ban Lokanath
Maharaja from attending the TOVP’s Grand Prabhupada Welcome Ceremony. Like
before, this attempted ban was started by someone posting on social media,
with various NA GBCs immediately jumping on board to take up the cause.
Fortunately, the TOVP leaders stood up to these GBCs and publicly chastised them by writing:

“Any threat of a ‘boycott’ of the program by GBCs or anyone else is a grossly
materialistic and political tool not fit for the Krishna Conscious movement,
what to speak of Srila Prabhupada’s 125th Anniversary.”

[PADA: People who do not worship pedophiles are "political"? And why would any people want to see a pedophile being worshiped at the 125th Anniversary?]

The TOVP further stated:

“The TOVP Team has considered and decided that, regardless of any reaction
from anyone we will not permit or take part in any Vaishnava Aparadh to Lokanath Maharaj.”

Like the TOVP, we cannot just stand by quietly any longer, while aparadh is
being made to Maharaja, and so we now appeal to the International GBC and
Indian Bureau to begin working cooperatively with the Indian TPs, to resolve
this situation and permanently close Maharaja’s case without imposing any
further sanctions on him.

We are forced to reach out to all of you directly, because the NALC is not
representing our group and our constituencies on this topic. Instead, at
least some of the NALC members are themselves complicit in the very aparadh we are speaking up against. We have more NA leaders (many more than those signed
below), who agree with what we have written here, but are afraid to take a
more public stance for fear of reprisal by the NALC.

Regardless, we, the undersigned NA leaders, and our constituencies, are increasingly feeling that we may also need to begin taking a more formal
stance about this issue soon, especially if the NALC continues to be so influenced
by whatever is trending on social media, while continuing to ignore our valid
concerns.

Thank you. Hare Krishna
Your servants,

Abhay Ashraya Dasa - Srila Prabhupada Disciple
Adi Gadadhar Dasa - ISKCON Atlanta, Congregation Development In-charge
Aditya Narayan Dasa - ISKCON North Carolina, Congregation President
Dhananjaya Krsna Dasa - ISKCON Bergen, Leading Donor
Divyanam Dasa - ISKCON Richmond, Temple President
Devakinandan Dasa - ISKCON Central New Jersey, Vice President
Dvaipayana Dasa - ISKCON Orlando, Temple President
Govindanandini Devi Dasi - Certified Hospital Chaplain, Prison Ministry,
Sunday School Teacher
Gaura Nataraj Dasa - ISKCON Las Vegas, Congregational Preacher
Kayvalia Dasa - Srila Prabhupada Disciple, ISKCON Philadelphia Board Member
Mayapur Chandra Dasa - ISKCON Hudson Valley, Temple President
Nama Kirtan Dasa - ISKCON Kirtan Ministry Coordinator for Canada
Param Dham Dasa - ISKCON DC, Festivals and Outreach
Raghupati Dasa - Srila Prabhupada Disciple
Ramacandra Dasa - ISKCON Bergen, Temple President
Purnachandra Dasa - DeLand Project, Director
Saksi Gopal Dasa - ISKCON Alachua, Indian Congregation Director
Saranga Dasa - ISKCON Miami, Namahatta In-Charge
Shraddhadev Dasa - ISKCON New Orleans, Temple President
Samika Rsi Dasa - Srila Prabhupada Disciple - Initiating Guru
Shyama Rupa Das - ISKCON Baltimore, Secretary
Simheswara Dasa - ISKCON Central New Jersey, Secretary and Sankirtan Manager

3 comments:

  1. LW: I have not robbed any banks ... recently. So I must be as pure as God ... now. Seriously? That is their standard for acharya. He has not deviated too badly ... recently.

    And they never satisfied the original conditions of the agreement they made. Sorry ... this does not pass the smell test. He has not deviated recently ... is not the standard for Krishna's guru successor. They really do not understand what is a guru ... what is Krishna's successor etc. My grand ma knows "he has not deviated recently" is not the standard for being worshiped as good as God.

    Lokanath also supported the whole child molesting mess ... all along ... and recently. He has never explained that this whole thing is not authorized. They are still saying their whole molesting mess was the result of their "great preaching" and gurus ... not! It was the result of gangsters making pretend they are gurus.

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  2. SD Dasi: I missed the memo? It was "all settled" by the GBC already. Now I feel so much more confident ... everything is in order!

    They are always making the right choices for ISKCON. And that is why ISKCON is an empty ghost graveyard. It has alienated its children (like most of them I know). It is bankrupted. It has made fools out of its guru parampara of Krishna. And women have had to take charge of fixing the child touching guru problem. And the real problem right now is ... the degraded Western devotees are trying to ruin ISKCON ... by defending a woman ... from an India family!

    And Sanatana GBC defender ... leaves his kids in the hands of "dangerous brahmacharis" with bad results. Of course women and children have to run away from these "dangerous brahmacharis" because ... the GBC forgot to fix that ... years ago.

    Other than that ... they are doing a perfect job!

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  3. M Dasi: Seems almost a curse to be born a Hindu. Many think Satya Sai Baba or Vivekananda or other fools are incarnations of Krishna. And all sorts of other fools and idiots are yogis, swamis, incarnations of Durga and Lord Siva and who knows. Just look at the crazy Bollywoods about Hindu's ideas.

    They are already world wide famous for making bogus God men and avatars. Now they are telling us worship of their pedophile guru is the path making ISKCON healthy. No way! Worship of the pedophile class is how ISKCON became sick ... and it still is sick. The other problem is ... they are often very arrogant and after they make all these fools into Godmen ... then they do not even realize how stupid that makes them look to the rest of the world.

    The people of the world have rejected their bogus God men ... the temples are empty. An empty temple is not a sign of health ... it means it is very sick. This woman is trying to tell us that worship of the pedophile class should be allowed ... and she claims to represent Krishna? Where does Krishna say pedophiles should be worshiped as My gurus? They have no idea what Krishna says ... plain as day. And then they make pretend they do not know why there is all sorts of molesting? There are "dangerous brahmacharis" around ... and it looks like ... she is recruiting them out of prison to come to ISKCON? Oh yeah ... we Hindus are united ... we love to see pedophiles sitting in the vyasa seat ... then they wonder why the vyasa culture is not taken serious anywhere?

    Westerners can see the problem ... they cannot.

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