GBC has deputed this guy to rescue
their hokey messiah's program
with a "guru" lecture series.
Will it work?
There is unquestionable a huge number of disaffected, alienated people who left the Krishna movement. They feel cheated.PADA: Good, so why is Bhakti Vikas swami cheating people by giving them conditioned soul gurus? And why is BVKS aiding and promoting Basu Ghosh, who is the topmost leader of keeping a known pedophile in the post of guru now, after a string of previous deviants were already part of their parampara?
We should let people decide who is their guru, which is why my pal Basu Ghosh is forcing people, including toddlers, to accept our pedophile guru Lokanath -- as the guru of ISKCON -- with all sorts of pressure. Their pressure to promote pedophile gurus is constant and unrelenting.
And if the Church is empty, Srila Prabhupada says that is because the religion has become stale and mundane, with no substance. And if giving people a bogus guru is "living a lie," why has BVKS dedicated his life to making these lies?
And when BVKS disciples write me, they have no clue what has been going on in ISKCON, he is keeping them in the dark. And the India ICC all admit to their "making lies deviation" recently, admitting that most of the Lokanath disciples were not aware he is a pedophile. They lied to his followers.
Thus they are not giving people correct information, so the citizens cannot make informed choices. Of course BVKS expects toddlers to study the science and make the right choice, meanwhile he is feeding these toddlers a bunch of lies, so they could not make the right choice even if they tried.
Expecting toddlers to choose the right guru is a lie right out of the gate. This is utterly false, a toddler cannot study the science nor did anyone who is bona fide ever say that toddlers should be in charge of making the parampara choices by Vedic authority.
Krishna consciousness is a science. So we should apply shastra to determine who is a guru. We should understand who is who and what is what. And we should not bend to institutional pressure.
PADA: OK so why is BVKS having little toddlers and kids initiated by his bogus gurus, when they have no understanding of the shastra? And since the BVKS followers are not informed of the actual history, how could they decide properly at any age?
Do not be lazy in understanding the shastra. We should be generous in overlooking faults. The gurus who fell had some problems but we should feel they took to Krishna in good spirit.
PADA: The mass molesting of thousands of children, and the subsequent banning, beating, suing and assassinating of those who protested their molesting messiah's project -- proves that BVKS and his pals have been operating in good spirit? People are abandoning the religion, molesting victims are committing suicide, a number of people were beaten up and some were killed, ISKCON was sued into bankrupt status, which is the result of -- operating in good spirit? Wow, lets hope we don't see their bad spirit if this is their good side!
And BVKS says they "took" to the guru position. Well exactly right, they "took" i.e. stole and usurped their position, it is a smash and grab operation. They took everything, and removed all the devotees, and made ISKCON into a ghost town. They took everything that was not nailed down?
And made it a ISKCON ghost town of fried alienated and disaffected, and suicidal but this was all done in good spirt? I am getting death threats, people are chasing me with baseball bats, our friends are being banned, beaten, sued and killed, and it is all good spirit? Hee hee, really?
Lets not forget, false acharyas are destined to go to the most obnoxious regions of the universe, so they don't even get to float in the liquid part of the sewer system, they go straight down into the solid part of the sewer at the bottom.
[PADA: Everyone so far seems to think Bhakti Vikas swami is way out of touch when he says that the new people (and children) should "study the science" before accepting a GBC guru, when little toddlers are getting initiated and there is no way these toddlers could "study the science."
It is very foolish for BVKS to say that three years old toddlers need to "study the science," rather he is blaming these toddlers for making "the wrong choice of guru" -- which the toddlers have no way of deciding at that stage.
Even the India ICC Bureau says that Lokanath has many children disciples, thus it is self evident they -- and BVKS -- never tell these little children that Lokanath is the leader of an illicit sex with men, women and children guru parampara. Neither they explain that Lokanath and his India ICC ilk have personally defended their anal reconstructive surgery of children epidemic messiah's program. Neither they explain he is one of the little girl touching pedophiles in that parampara. So they are not educating people in the science, even one iota. This is fake news.
And in most temples, there is a prominent local zonal guru, for example Jayapataka is the main guru of Mayapura, and people there are pretty much promoting him as the guru. And thus anyone who "studies the science" and thinks Jayapataka is not qualified to be a guru, is then banned and removed from Mayapur. No one is allowed to study the science and make their own determination of who the guru and who is not. Worse, the people who decide Srila Prabhupada is their guru are then banned, exiled, vilified, removed, threatened, and sometimes -- killed.
Thus, even if a person studies the science, it is a useless waste of time because he will be booted out if he does not agree to promote the worship of the local conditioned soul bogus GBC guru. Many people have studied the science and they rejected the GBC guru system, and then they are booted out of the society. What good does it do for ISKCON when the people who study the science are booted out the door?
Moreover it is cruel to say that the children selected the wrong guru, when they had no way of knowing what is what. They are children. ys pd
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S DASI: Dear Ambarish Prabhu,
Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.
I am writing to you at this crucial juncture in ISKCON’s history-in-the-making. Lokanath is currently under investigation for child sexual abuse. Until the investigation is over, it is unacceptable for him to be promoted and to be publicly placed in high profile places. This includes leading kirtan at the worldwide once-in-an-ISKCON-lifetime event, The Grand Welcome Ceremony of Srila Prabhupada’s New Murti to the Temple of the Vedic Planetarium.
In 2010, Lokanath wrote “I sexually abused her” in his admission letter:
https://satyavrata.wixsite.com/.../letter-of-admission-by...
In 2018 the GBC RESOLVED:
“No person, who has been determined to have engaged in severe maltreatment of children, will be allowed to remain active in a position of authority or trust within ISKCON, this includes activities such as leading kirtan, giving class, speaking publicly at any ISKCON event or representing ISKCON in official capacities.” https://gbc.iskcon.org/gbc_res/GBCRES18.pdf
Lokanath admitted to sexually abusing an 11 year old child. Therefore, he should be restricted from all institutional leadership roles, including leading public worship. He is welcome to practice Krishna Consciousness but as ISKCON is undergoing an internal review on the abuse he perpetrated, Lokanath should not be endorsed as a leader.
Lokanath was on the original schedule to lead a “Maha Kirtan” for this event, then he was removed, and now he is back on again. Per ISKCON law, he is not allowed to head the TOVP kirtan.
We agree with the GBC Chairman Bhanu Swami when he says it is best “to keep [Lokanath’s] participation out of the program, even in a minor role” (Brajavilas shared this quote in an email to to Basu Ghosh on October 11). Yes, ISKCON should not present Lokanath Swami as an institutional leader or allow him to lead public worship.
In 2006 the GBC RESOLVED:
"Nevertheless, the perpetrators, even if now taking up the process of devotional service, may still constitute a threat to our children. Further, if they become involved in any type of leadership positions, regardless of the degree of actual risk, it will become an embarrassment to our Society, bring about further loss of faith from our second generation and other devotees, and constitute needless legal risk to ISKCON.” https://gbc.iskcon.org/2006/
As this 2006 GBC resolution states, Lokanath is free to practice devotional service, but not in a leadership capacity within ISKCON, as an ISKCON-endorsed leader.
Brajavilasa complained about Vaishnava Aparadha against Lokanath. Lokanath is not the victim.
Actually, in 1997 the GBC resolved that abuse to children is Vaishnava Aparadha:
"[LAW] 501. THAT the GBC Body hereby declares that the International Society for Krishna Consciousness does not condone abuse of any kind, especially that which is directed towards dependents such as women, children, aged and cows. Battery, verbal and emotional abuse are destructive to the devotional creeper and thus considered serious Vaisnava aparadhas. Any attempt to justify this type of abusive mentality on the basis of sastra is misconstrued and is firmly rejected by all practicing Vaisnavas." https://gbc.iskcon.org/1997
On August 12, 2021, just two months ago, the GBC voted into law the ISKCON Code of Ethical Behavior:
"3a) ISKCON devotees, in particular officers and directors, are expected to scrupulously refrain from even the appearance of sexual misconduct in its many forms. The following categories of behavior are specifically criminal:
• Child sexual abuse, including any sexual activity, involvement or attempt of sexual contact by an adult with a person who is under the applicable legal age of consent" (p. 7)
"11a) ISKCON devotees have an ethical responsibility to protect others who appear to be victims of abuse or neglect, particularly minors. ISKCON officials are expected to report to appropriate authorities (including the ISKCON Child Protection Office, police, and child welfare agencies) whenever they have reasonable concern that a minor in their community is being abused, neglected, or is living in an unsafe home. ISKCON devotees are encouraged to familiarize themselves with local laws and learn how to recognize basic indicators of child abuse and neglect." (p. 17)
https://gbc.iskcon.org/.../10/CODE_8-21-21_FINAL_COPY.pdf
We stand at a crossroads in the realm of child protection within ISKCON - do we want to move forward or do we want to go backwards?
As a person with great influence, you have an important decision to make. What you decide today will set a precedent that may be followed for generations to come. Please ask that Lokanath be removed from the schedule.
Sincerely,
cc: GBC, North American Leadership Council, ICPO, North American CPO, Youth Ministry, Ad Hoc Panel Members
GBC.ISKCON.ORG
gbc.iskcon.org
PB: Any sannyasis who falls from his position should take up grhastra life with vigor and continue to preach Krishna Consciousness. What about Madhavisa, Pusta Krishna, Bali Mardana, Hansadutta, Rameswara and many others. What's the difficulity?
I don't think a letter of apology is the answer to the problem. We all have fall downs in one way or other. Just stop the masqeraid and accept a humble position and continue on!
CL: He didn't fall from his position, he committed a crime, he abused a child. So he should be happily married now?? Molesting a child is a criminal act. it's not a fall down!!!
SD: It is a crime. a. prison might be more appropriate, b. marriage isn't a punishment, it's a partnership of two people who love and care about each other, c. just 'cause someone can't be a sannyasi doesn't mean they should get married, some people can just be unmarried
PB: A child, sounded like a woman? Did he abuse a child? Didn't know that! Sounds harsh, grhastra life can be most helpful, I think there is undue pressure to remain celibate. Grhastra life can be a boon for most of us.
NJ: Just powerful men looking out for each other so they’ll get the same treatment if / when their power is threatened. Gundas.
CK: Spot on. If they dethrone Lokanath they will feel threatened, they are next on the chopping block.
SN: Can we please stop talking about this as if he has "fallen"? It equates the abuse inherent in touching a minor to the "fall" of others who have had consensual sexual relations and prolongs the narrative that this was just a minor slip a long time ago. There is a vast difference and it needs to be recognized in order to make people aware of where the line is drawn. There are many ways of falling down but that kinds of phrasing minimizes the incident.
CL: Yes!! Thank you.
SD: As someone said once, what Lokanath did is a fall-down of the most extreme order. It breaks so many vows of sannyas. KD went into this in more detail of how sexually abusing a child breaks all 4 regulative principles. I believe she talked about this in her interview with Hridayananda Dasa Goswami.
https://satyavrata.wixsite.com/.../hridayananda-swami-and...
Hridayananda Swami and Krishna Devata on Child Protection - August 2021
SATYAVRATA.WIXSITE.COM
But I hear ya. Child abuse should be not be lumped in with consensual sexual relations with an adult.
ZB: Good luck with them, you are asking them to censure a pure Devotee -- that’s why we called them "the good old boys club GBC" they’re all friends promoting each other. If there’s one molester they’re all molesters since their silence is their agreement -- try looking into our founders teachings on this.
I had personal dealings with him concerning a three time accused child molester. He had a zero to say, that’s right zero, but he had plenty of correspondence with his friends that were housing and protecting the molester.
DV: Hare Krsna... PAMHO. All glories to Shrila Prabhupada. Please be reminded that Lord Krsna is the Supreme controller. Nothing moves not even a blade of grass without His will. Please ...wake up sleeping Souls.... Jive Jago... The Lord is in control.
SD: Exactly, and Krishna has willed me to fight for child protection in ISKCON.
DD: Your work and devotion, and logical analysis; along with a gentle way with words is very uplifting: and thus in need of compliment, and praise in order that the spark you have lit may snowball from the cool and rational intellect into the avalanche of fire so much needed to burn away the non admitance of child abuse in ISKCON -- and the much greater devastation of child molestation cover ups. In a truly healthily society the temperament of Srila Prabhupada should prevail even as expressed with tearful eyes to one mother as follows:
"He should immediately be thrown out. But before he is thrown out first he should be hanged." Thus did a mother telling the truth light a spark that turned into a conflagration within the voice of the Acharya, a conflagration quickly arisen as hard as a thunderbolt. And indeed bhakti at its best means to give the most respect to any emotion expressed by His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaltivedhanta swami Prabhupada.
BW: This is the exact same thing I was told by senior devotees in my teens after suffering protracted abuse for more than a decade in Iskcon Gurukulas.
1. It certainly must have been your Karma, or
2. Krishna must have sanctioned special mercy for you to liberate you from last life attachments, because not a blade of grass moves without the will of the Lord.
In my view this is a childlike and frankly dangerous understanding of the philosophy, as it absolves the perpetrators, and sets up devotees to not act in defense of the vulnerable. What if Srila Prabhupada had given up after being denied initial passage on the Scindia ocean liner, because it’s the will of the Lord?
SD: I agree with you and JD. It absolves someone of responsibility for the choices they make, or being accountable for the choices they have made.
DKD: Baladeva Vidyabhushana said if everything was karma and everything was Krishna's will there would be no need of dharma shastras.
BW: Exactly. This idea completely ignores the free will of the Jiva and our own responsibilities. It’s Krishna‘s will that the overall framework is operational and that the demigods are managing specific departments, not that Krishna is micromanaging your free will and is responsible for your actions.
DKD: All these bloody rascals will also get their karma and rot in hell. Funny thing by my son, he said if someone tells you your abuse is your karma, so then if you beat him up is also his karma. I told to one GBC that if this would happen to my children there would be no need of any resolution for that guy, because he would fly down the balcony. Even 10 years prison can not equal to the sin of destroying someone's life.
DV: With matters as they are unfolding now... was the information supplied to your team bona-fide. Do the back ground research. All what you say is truth. Please be very careful as this is directly applicable to even you and me.
Vaisnava blasphemy is the worst. It will diminish your faith and taste in the holy name very very rapidly. So pray to the Lord sincerely... without prejudice.. to show you right from wrong. Protect your sadhana as this will give you clear direction to move towards. Take guidance from your spiritual master. To become a doctor you cannot study medical books and declare your self a doctor and then go operate on anyone.
We need to address individual situations and circumstances with each perpetrator. Take each case to your child protection officer. Let each grievance be dealt with individually. That is the right way. Compounding each abuse, which should never have happened, into one solid ball and throwing it in the wrong direction due to all your frustration of being heard will not help you or anyone else in this situation.
PADA: Oh heck no! Now Bhakti vikas swami is saying the people who got a bad guru in ISKCON "did not study the science of guru tattva properly." Really? Toddlers who got initiation when they were three years old "did not first make themselves conversant with the topic of guru tattva." I think this might be called -- grasping at straws? This is great, now we know where all the ISKCON trouble is coming from, and it is those darn toddlers! ys pd
CK: Iskcon more or less bully devotees to take initiation. It's a fake society since Prabhupada was poisoned.
SD: There were some things done that I don't think are happening anymore. I hope.
KMD: Ambarish is the one who brought Bhavananda back to Mayapur and gave him money and position there so I doubt he is going to be worried about his reputation being ruined by allowing Lokanath to attend.
SD: Yes, Ambarish and Bhavananda are old friends.
LB: Bum buddies ...
SD: Yes, I have heard the rumor that Ambarish is homosexual. I don't care about that. What I care about is how he behaves as a leader towards the protection of children, that includes not triggering abuse victims by promoting and endorsing abusers.
LB: Yes of course but anyone who is a homosexual should not be making any top level decisions regarding morality and devotees lives especially children.
SD: Why? It's consensual sex between adults. Heterosexuals do the same thing.
LB: That is another topic. Homosex is demoniac. They shouldn’t make decisions on peoples lives. For example Bhavananda arranged many marriages which mostly failed. He forced me to marry against both my wife and I wishes. How can a homosexual have the mindset to match make a man and woman. So how can Ambarisa be in a proper frame of mind to make serious decisions if he is with Bhavananda?
DKD: Hmm, Braj Vilas Prabhu is a great Vaishnava and leader. But he shouldn't get into some diplomatical games of playing with philosophy. Braj Vilas is a leader, so if he is scared to enact his duty as a leader to uphold the authority of GBC out of fear for his personal welfare then he can not be a leader. This is message of Krishna in BG nimita matram tasmāt tvam uttiṣhṭha yaśho labhasva bjitvā śhatrūn bhuṅkṣhva rājyaṁ samṛiddham / mayaivaite nihatāḥ pūrvam eva nimitta-mātraṁ bhava savya-sāchin
I never understood what means vaishnava aparadha here. I asked recently money back from a devotee who cheated and he said don't do aparadha. I hope it doesn't become a slogan and strategy on how to avoid ones responsibility for actions.
LMD: Excellently written letter! Keep making these ripples and inspiring each of us to do the same!!! Until the CPO is properly funded and functioning all other projects including the TOVP should be left to crumble if need be!
CK: TOVP is just a farce -- a pretend public game -- oh we follow Prabhupada while stealing temples and using and exploiting hundreds of devotees, let's be real here!
SD: Lokanath case being given back to the professionals of the ISKCON Child Protection Office is the main objective.
VD: It does seem that sanyasi, brahmacari, homosexual and those without children are less bothered about child abuse. They have no parental love for them. Which is the closest love to love of God. They will never understand.
SD: I have seen some people with children who are not very good parents. I have also seen people who never had children who are excellent with children.
VD: But in this case most of LNS supporters must be those who are without children. They would not know the grief this causes for their child or parents. No caring parent would support a child abuser guru. It’s just so awful and evil. Unless they’re totally brainwashed.
DD: Yes, a lot of confused followers of LNS. But it’s Satya who should decide about the horror. We can only wonder. I think we’ve moved on from there. It’s about Iskcon principal now. How to remove a highly regarded and influential guru from his position because he abused an 11 year old child. He has no right to be respected as guru or leader. He must resign or Iskcon is ruined.
VD: Though none of this is for the first time. All new religions or cults have their ups and downs. We’ve had our fair share. We should learn from new / old religions, philosophy and belief systems. Or it might ruin us too. Just saying it.
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