S Dasi: I am extremely disappointed with the ISKCON GBC Strategic Planning Team. I commented under the video with Satadhanya that he was a child rapist, and the video of Bhakti Vidya Purna Swami -- that he beat children till they bled [and children were forced to eat rotten food until they vomited, then forced to eat their vomit. Sometimes the children's bones were broken, ear drums ruptured, teeth smashed out etc.] Both men have CPO decisions against them and yet are being praised and honored on an ISKCON forum.
After my comments were deleted, I was blocked from commenting on all future posts. I find it strange and sickening that child abusers can be raised to a platform of honor and recognition, while anyone pointing out how that's wrong is silenced and exiled. ISKCON GBC Strategic Planning Team Thoughts?
[PADA: Wow, it seems to be a new assembling of the molester messiah's project's leaders. Of course, if one or more of them has a better explanation, or they have publicly disassociated from the molester messiah's project, they can send me a message: angel108b@yahoo.com.
(1) It does look like we have as the main speaker -- Jayapataka swami --founder father of the Mayapura child molesting society, and illicit sex with men, women and children guru parampara etc. His program was sued for $400,000,000 for mass child abuse, and the Dallas lawyers said -- in their 40 years experience of being lawyers -- they had NEVER seen such vile and horrible accounts of all sorts of cruel and sadistic treatment of children cases, and thus -- (Jayapataka's) ISKCON's cases were the most depraved, vicious and horrific that they had ever encountered.
And JPS has been the ring leader / co-creator of that regime.
And that evidently is why the INDIA ICC falls at his feet. As soon as they find the leader of a mass child molesting program, and actually a heinous and horrific child treatment program, they fall off their chairs and lick that person's jack boots, thinking they have found the next messiah of the jagat.
India ICC folks told me --
I am a bogus Christian mleccha!
Right!
We bogus Christians are NOT
worshiping their child raping program acharyas
like them!
All glories to the ICC acharya!
Beelzebub!
Wow, JPS created a program where children have been starved, beaten, had their bones broken, many were sexually molested, and various victims were eventually committing suicide. Then his program had to be sued for $400,000,000 for creating all this abuse. therefore he gets the India ICC's stamp of being "the sum total of the demigods -- Krishna's representative." (?)
The India ICC finds a nice child beating, child starving, child molesting, child suicide program, and they think they have found Krishna's messiahs! Then the ICC complains to PADA, us mlecchas worship Jesus, and not their heinous and sadistic child abuse project's leaders. Forsooth! We only worship Jesus -- and not their child anus rupturing messiahs program?
Yep, anyone who creates an "anal reconstructive surgery of children epidemic" process is worshiped as the India ICC's messiah. A devotee recently held a ceremony in Alachua for the evidently four hundred Mayapur abuse victims, but hey there are others folks who say there are MANY more victims than that -- likely -- thousands of Mayapura victims, not just hundreds.
Who knows? They have no methods of accurate record keeping. Of course even hundreds of victims is enough to say, this is heinous and sadistic towards children, and that is why the ICC finds the leaders of that process to be their darling messiahs.
Let us give Krishna a good name!
OK not!
Why are more people comparing
ISKCON --
to these guys?
(2) Gopal Krishna swami evidently worked with Radhanath to bury "oral sex with young men" and child molesting empire leader Kirtanananda -- in a samadhi in Vrndavana. Yep, another pedophile is worshiped in samadhi, which is why the ICC falls of their chairs and licks his boots.
Now we are told Kirtananda had been having sex with cats. Hmmm, no wonder the India ICC has made that program their "successors to Krishna." They did not want to leave out any deviations from their Vaikuntha parampara. So they finally found a nice "sex with cats pooja samadhi acharya" -- and the ICC were totally happy to add that to their Vaikuntha parampara.
And then they buried another deviant, a porno swami, in samadhi next to their sex with cats samadhi. What would their parampara be without a good porno messiah? And the really good news is, they want your kids to worship their parampara! Yep, why would anyone worship Jesus -- when they can go worship a porno swami in a samadhi, under the supervision of the India ISKCON ICC folks.
(3) Lokanath aka Jokernath. Another pedophile acharya. There has been so much spilled ink exposing his story -- there is no need to repeat it all here. Just Google it and you will find many references.
(4) Bhakti Puroshottama swami. Initiated by Jayapataka, the founder father of the illicit sex with men, women and children guru parampara. OK and sex with cats. Yep, anyone whose program is sued for $400,000,000 for mass children abuse is my hero messiah! I hope to be able to follow his footsteps and create a $400 billion dollar molesting lawsuit, since the disciple should always try to do more than his guru!
(5) Vaisesika dasa. OK as soon as the GBC reinstated sex with Taxi drivers in the dham as their Vishnupada acharya, VD gets voted in as messiah by the same group. "I am hereby certified as the next messiah of the Jagat, because I am certified by the oral sex with Taxi drivers in the dham guru parampara, which -- by the way -- mass molested children.
And lots of people blame our 'oral sex with Taxi driver's in the dham' messiah's program for creating that hot mess"!
And then the India ICC says, OMG, oral sex with taxi dirver's in the dham Vishnupada acharya messiahs, a program that also creates mass child molesting, sign me up! We need to lick the jack boots of our favorite anal reconstructive surgery epidemic of children messiahs program and get your children to worship that process!
(6) Bhima das. A big supporter of Jayadvaita. OK and JAS is the person who says their guru parampara contains -- "illicit sex with men, women and possibly children." Yep, if we find someone whose guru parampara is having sex with everyone in the house, including the cat, this guy falls off his chair and licks the jack boots of the leaders of that guru parampara! And the good news is -- again! Your children are being told to worship their illicit sex with men, women, children, cats, dogs, goats -- guru lineage, because the INDIA ICC has authorized that guru parampara!
(7) Navina Narada das. He says he has been visiting Satsvarupa, a de facto pedophile because he was having sex with a follower. Satsvarupa is the founder / chief writer of most of the GBC early documents, including their horrendous "The Mahajanas Have Difficulties" paper in 1980.
Yep, anyone who is a de facto pedophile, a 1980s Kirtanananda cheer leader, a person who supported the entire pedophile guru process with all sorts of documents, is a hero for these guys. Did I forget to mention, a former teacher of SDG's school said "every single kid in his school was molested." Sign me up! Why is he hanging out with this lot?
Anyway, it looks like another pedo-fest festival.
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Brajhari Das , Temple President
Global level administrative information
Zonal location : Maharashtra: Mumbai Juhu
Zone : Greater Mumbai (including Thane)
Region : Indian Subcontinent- West India
Global level leadership
Zonal level : Gopal Krishna Goswami , Zonal Secretary
: Radhanath Swami , Zonal Secretary
: Bhima Das , Zonal Secretary
: Devakinandan Das , Zonal Secretary
: Bhima Das , Zonal Secretary
: Devakinandan Das , Zonal Secretary
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PADA: Yes JD, there are more ISKCON leaders like Hrdayananda and others saying we cannot have sexual predators in the post of leaders and gurus. However they are not really calling for a major overhaul of their whole system, and admitting they are the ones who are the original founder fathers of the sexual predators guru program, which caused all the suffering to the citizens including mass child abuse.
ReplyDeleteThey are making a sort of impersonal and indirect attack, "we cannot allow abusers in the post of leaders" while avoiding going after the original founders of this whole mess -- which is -- themselves. They are the people who viciously orchestrated all this, what to speak of allowed all this to happen under their watch.
But yes, it is good they are starting to agree this is bad, now we need to know -- who are the specific bad people who caused all this bad stuff to happen. And who are the specific bad people still defending the bad system -- OK like the ICC.
Hrdayananda is making an abstract concept "we are against those guys" -- but he is one of those guys, he co-created all this. And therefore all the anal reconstructive surgery process they orchestrated for children here, will be duplicated and done to them on Yama's planets. And since the ICC wants to promote this process as a guru parampara from Krishna, they too are implicated in the whole empire as its chief current cheer leaders, apologists, defenders, enablers and co-authors. And for their people to say it is better to worship their anus busting guru program -- than to worship Jesus, is an attack on Jesus. How are they going to explain to Yamaraja that it is better to worship the ICC's butt buggery program -- than Jesus? They are doomed either way ... but they could reduce their sentence in Yama's planets if they recanted. But yes, some admission is better than none, it is a start.
CMD: A point Deva Madhava dasa made was ... a person with that kind of history should not be in an institutional leadership role. Whatever personal relationships they maintain - spiritual, or otherwise, are between individuals. An institutional endorsement is problematic.
ReplyDelete[PADA: Correct. The ISKCON institution endorses the entire illicit sex with men, women and children guru parampara. Their rank and file members sometimes claim that a pedophile is "taking our sins" and is "God incarnate" etc.
That means the institution is training people to think that way, because the institution has endorsed deviants and pedophiles as its gurus and messiahs. It is not an individual one off leader who is deviating, it is the entire infrastructure that is creating these illusions. ys pd]
PADA -- N Dasi: Lokanath followers wrote to tell me that the Lokanath issue is just like the fall down of priests in the Church. LNS fell down, but so do the priests, what is the problem? Nope! Lokanath is being advertised as the GBC's full blown parampara guru, he is not being advertised as their minor league priest -- who can fall down. Apart from that, priests who deviate with sexual predator issues are also removed from posts of authority. Every day -- the church expels priests who are having sexual predator problems. In sum, people who deviate with sexual predatory activity should not have any posts of authority, as teacher, as guru, as priest, as sannyasa, etc. That is the standard for all religious people everywhere. And the Lokanath issue is not "in the past," at all. The GBC promised the victim LNS would not have a prominent post, they did not keep their promise. That promise was not kept in the past, or now, it is thus an unfilled promise as of today, right now. Lokanath also said in 1988 that ISKCON is turning into an empty ghost town, he knew his program was forcing devotees away and he even admitted that. They are still blocking and banning people as of right now and today, that has not changed from 1988. Lokanath program is spending $20,000,000 to remove the Bangalore devotees, because they don't worship pedophiles as their acharyas? ys pd
ReplyDeleteSD Dasi: One of the followers of Lokanath says we are "a bunch of animals." Lokanath people see Vaishnavas ... those who worship pure devotees are ... a bunch of animals. Amazing ... power of illusion.
ReplyDeleteAnyone who worships pedophiles is bona fide. Anyone who worships a pure devotee is an animal. What is LNS teaching his people? This shows the power of ... material energy. By false propaganda they have convinced people ... Vaishnavas are animals .... and the worship of pedophiles is bona fide. These LNS people are in ... the darkest regions of existence.
Attacking Vaisnavas as animals is very sinful. That is how Lokanath people justify threatening to kill us Vaishnavas ... LNS is demonizing the Vaishnavas ... trying to get us killed.
The Vainsavas are nasty animals ... really means ... you can kill them. LNS is a very dangerous man. Demonizing the Vaishnavas is the most sinful activity ... after they already got some of us killed ... but they cannot stop their campaign to demonize us ... because without making us demons ... then their emperor with no clothes would not last. My lady friend saw the picture of Gopal Krishna on his big seat ... she said ... the emperor has no clothes. This is foolishness. Even the friends can see ... the LNS people are blinded by illusion.
B Das: The irony is ... that those same people who helped SP to create the Krishna consciousness miracle ... are the very same ones that are doing everything in their power to destroy that miracle.....
ReplyDelete[PADA: Yep, the irony here is very odd -- but very clear. They created a baby -- then drowned their own baby. It is very tragic and the real problem for them starts in their next life -- when they are held accountable for all these crimes. Anyway -- you summed it up nicely -- many will agree. ys pd]
N Dasa: It’s way too late for this to change. Damage is done too deep and for too many decades of base denial. At this point ... even if they came clean I don’t think it would be enough. It’s just been too awful.
ReplyDeleteSorry but really I think this is it. I don't actually believe there is any way to turn the movement around. Well ... there is a way. But I don’t believe these people will do it. Not enough.
We need to think about this differently. Just find the sincere kindred souls and associate with them. There is no shelter in ISKCON. The house in which the whole world can live has been demolished.
It pains me to say this beyond imagination but there is no value in illusion. We must face the truth. This is the only way forward.
[PADA: Yup, we need a grass roots alternate, and that is happening slow but sure. ys pd]