*** Pedophiles are PREVIOUS PARAMPARA MEMBERS.
*** Pedophiles POPULATE our GURU PARAMPARA, previous and current.
*** Our GURU PARAMPARA contains ILLICIT SEX WITH MEN,
WOMEN and CHILDREN (and cats?) which is their CURRENT parampara.
*** Previous PEDOPHILES voted in THE CURRENT ACHARYAS.
*** A -- "Previous PEDOPHILE ACHARYA" -- is still a current link in their
CURRENT GURU CHAIN, because ALL LINKS are CONNECTED. All links in any chain are part of the entire process.
*** Previous PEDOPHILE ACHARYAS are SAMADHI ACHARYAS currently.
*** Current PEDOPHILES are CURRENTLY giving class lectures --
AS ACHARYAS -- IN VRINDAVANA -- NOW!
*** Told ya!
[PADA: In 1979 we said ISKCON is promoting pedophiles (like Jayatirtha) as acharyas, at least de facto. And that is because -- Srila Prabhupada says -- when a guru has sex with a follower it is the same as a father having sex with his own daughter. So we were ridiculed and banned from ISKCON.
Fast forward to today, and ISKCON is currently worshiping another known pedophile -- named Lokanath, which is what we said they were doing in 1979. I have to congratulate Lokanath for helping me confirm what we said in 1979, ISKCON has become a pedophile worship cult, and it still is now.
Lokanath has confirmed that my 1979 statement was and is accurate.
And still is fully accurate. Without him, it would be harder for me to say it is a pedophile cult, because the GBC folks say -- well yes, our parampara has many past pedophiles, but we got rid of them. Of course the previous pedophiles voted in the current guys, so the current guys have the pedophile guru rubber stamp. For example Gaura Govinda maharaja has the "oral sex with taxi drivers in the dham" rubber stamp of guru, because he is voted into their system -- by the reinstators of sex with taxi drivers.
Lokanath is giving us the perfect current example that they are still a pedophile worship cult. Of course what is a guru parampara that has had previous pedophiles in the past, that is another deviation itself. A parampara contains all the links, includes their pedophiles, past or present.
Anyway, this is good news because now we have had 100 percent validation from Lokanath and the GBC, they have converted ISKCON into a pedophile worship cult -- which is what we said all along, and Lokanath is validating that for us.
I have to thank Lokanath swami for that validation -- because so often devotees tell us "you are living in the past" (because there are pedophiles in our parampara -- in the past), but now they cannot argue that any more, because they have pedophiles in their parampara now. Of course for them to say pedophiles populated our parampara in the past, means they are still in the parampara now, because a guru chain includes all the links -- includes their previous pedophiles.
Thanks Lokanath, you have helped my argument along immensely. And special thanks to the INDIA ICC, you are confirmed pedophile acharya worship lovers, and you will go to the planet of pedophile worshipers.
ys pd]
S Dasi: Like what? Specifics would help.
GL DASA: There is an obvious support from some leaders, like letting Bhavanada inside the movement doing important services .... it is a clear ...¨we do not give a damn about the victims..."
A DASI: Well, we're only asking him and the rest of the GBC to please take account of and act upon the solid, reliably informed evidence. All that needs to happen is for the CPO to be allowed to do their job without the encumbrance of GBC interference. And if that happened, Anuttama Prabhu wouldn't have to worry his head.
MND: I would say its best to get lawyers involved. 2008 - Dallas attorney Windle Turley announces November 9 that all claims are now settled with ISKCON entities and their insurance companies. The total for all settlements was $15 million (including legal fees).
KPD: There is a subtle distinction between discernment and judgement. To be fair, (at least as far as an institutional response goes) it is really only the CPO that has a legitimate jurisdiction in judgement. IOW they have the means / potential to pursue judgement with dignity.
It appears that the GBC have decided to forgo that prerogative of the CPO, perhaps in pursuit of the path of less consequences (who knows, that may even be accurate if the ICC makes good of its promise to cede over the issue). The result is that the role of judgement gets tossed to lower order, less dignified functions (such as trial by social media, identity politics etc).
If there is serious concerns about the circulation of "uninformed accusations", the solution is to have the issue redressed by "informed accusations", (ie, the CPO). Or to say the same thing the other way around, if the process for the ethical investigation of misdemeanours is derailed, the natural result will be for the process to be scrutinised by "less ethical" means. Want to stop the rumour mill? Try honesty.
MP Dasi: Anutama can go suck a lemon.
MND: You mean understatement.
V Das: I’ll be surprised if this case gets past the Panel. 40% are ICC and GBC have not shown willingness to impose more extreme sanctions beyond what they did 30? Years ago. Even if gets past the Panel and they say more sanctions must be imposed. So pass to the CPO. Basically just to make people happy.
What more can CPO ( an organ of the GBC do) do? Recommend LNS resign?
But only if the GBC agree. So really the buck stops with the GBC not CPO.
Obviously a great fuss can be kicked up in this group if it’s not less than LNS resigning. Starting a revolution might be the only solution.
It seems ICC are already preparing for secession of the union if LNS is tried again.
Has anyone asked Satya what outcome she wants? Is she still suffering or traumatised? Is she over it now? Otherwise she’s being used in this debate.
S Dasi: CPO can remove him from all leadership positions. That is probably why the GBC does not want this case to go to them.
V Dasa: Though I don’t see why we should want a child abuser to have an easier next life. Why mercy?
M Dasi: Anuttama may be right, but we'll never know as long as the GBC keeps acting in secret with zero accountability, protecting their own, and changing their rules whenever they feel like it. Those are the perfect conditions for rumors and conspiracy theories to thrive.
S Dasi: Yep.
PADA: When we had ISKCON sued in Dallas in 1986, they lost the case and had to pay several million dollars. After that -- I said the molesting program has not been fixed, and they said no problem -- if there is any further problem -- then take us to court (again). So we had them sued again, also in Dallas, this time for $400,000,000.
If there is serious concerns about the circulation of "uninformed accusations", the solution is to have the issue redressed by "informed accusations", (ie, the CPO). Or to say the same thing the other way around, if the process for the ethical investigation of misdemeanours is derailed, the natural result will be for the process to be scrutinised by "less ethical" means. Want to stop the rumour mill? Try honesty.
MP Dasi: Anutama can go suck a lemon.
MND: You mean understatement.
V Das: I’ll be surprised if this case gets past the Panel. 40% are ICC and GBC have not shown willingness to impose more extreme sanctions beyond what they did 30? Years ago. Even if gets past the Panel and they say more sanctions must be imposed. So pass to the CPO. Basically just to make people happy.
What more can CPO ( an organ of the GBC do) do? Recommend LNS resign?
But only if the GBC agree. So really the buck stops with the GBC not CPO.
Obviously a great fuss can be kicked up in this group if it’s not less than LNS resigning. Starting a revolution might be the only solution.
It seems ICC are already preparing for secession of the union if LNS is tried again.
Has anyone asked Satya what outcome she wants? Is she still suffering or traumatised? Is she over it now? Otherwise she’s being used in this debate.
S Dasi: CPO can remove him from all leadership positions. That is probably why the GBC does not want this case to go to them.
V Dasa: Though I don’t see why we should want a child abuser to have an easier next life. Why mercy?
M Dasi: Anuttama may be right, but we'll never know as long as the GBC keeps acting in secret with zero accountability, protecting their own, and changing their rules whenever they feel like it. Those are the perfect conditions for rumors and conspiracy theories to thrive.
S Dasi: Yep.
PADA: When we had ISKCON sued in Dallas in 1986, they lost the case and had to pay several million dollars. After that -- I said the molesting program has not been fixed, and they said no problem -- if there is any further problem -- then take us to court (again). So we had them sued again, also in Dallas, this time for $400,000,000.
They never said my claims were informed nor not informed, they just said, if you want your claims to be discussed anywhere, you have to do that externally using the police, courts, media, your own newsletters etc., which is what we did. But we did that because they ordered that to be done. Anuttama was then telling people I was not working with the GBC, who was having me banned, beaten, threatened with death, chased with baseball bats, and my friends were also being banned, threatened, if not assassinated. They did not want to be informed and they don't want to be informed now on the Lokanath case. ys pd
G DASA: Yeah…that’s what happens when the management of a society doesn’t openly and truthfully INFORM the members of the society. Anuttama prabhu is further validating the need for transparency and honesty on the part of our ‘leadership’.
G DASA: Yeah…that’s what happens when the management of a society doesn’t openly and truthfully INFORM the members of the society. Anuttama prabhu is further validating the need for transparency and honesty on the part of our ‘leadership’.
PADA: Hah hah really? They had a porno swami problem going on for decades, then they had that same porno swami buried in a samadhi. I am glad to see this activity is among their "highest moral and ethical standards." ys pd
ReplyDeleteLD: Ouch! Means Lokanath knew all along he has been supporting a pedophile guru program. Srila Prabhupada says the demons take birth here ... to drag innocent people back to the hellish planets with them.
ReplyDeleteGood ole boy Lokanath could not wait to take them to hell with him in the next life ... so he dragged ISKCON to hell in this life ... so he could make hell here already.
These ISKCON kids who say they experienced hell ... simply experienced what Lokanath made for them. He made hell for these children ... because he could not wait to drag them to hell in the next life. These kids said they experienced hell ... but actually ... they just landed on Lokanath's planet ... that's all. His planet is hell ... and these kids found out where he is from ... by direct experience.
I know children from ISKCON who say to me ... they were in hell ... and that proves that Lokanath is from hell ... because he brought his personal hell here for these kids. Now Lokanath says he does not want children to be ritviks ... because then they would worship a pure devotee and not worship the residents of hell. That would be horrible. Then Lokanath would not be able to drag them to hell with him. Sorry I know ... he already dragged them to hell ... but then if they worshiped a pure devotee they would be free from hell and the demons do not want that.
All we have to do is ask these children where Lokanath's merry bank of demons already took them ... and they tell us ... he takes them to hell ... already. He takes children to hell ... according to the children ... and they would know. Now they are making him their big shot guru ... that means they are all on the same team. So when children say they experienced hell ... all we have to do is look at the faces of the people who put them there ....
M Dasi: Lokanath people calling Vaishnava mothers "animals" is really showing their true nature. Animals do not call names to the Vaishnavas. Lokanath and his people are far less than animals. No one is allowed to insult or harass women ... look at what happens to Kauravas.
ReplyDeleteAnimals do not insult and threaten harm to women ... because they are much highly advanced than Lokanath people. Calling us "animals" is fine ... we animals are not attacking female Vaishnavas and making threats to them. They are just less than animals ... because they are being trained ... by less than animal gurus ... to behave that way.
Even animals have proper respect for Vaishnavas ... these people have none. So glad this is all coming out ... we need people to see what their real colors are. Now people can see for themself. My friends are appalled at them ... they are making themselves look worse every day. That is what Srila Prabhupada told us ... expose the rascals. We need to expose them before they can make more violence against even one more Vaishnava.
PADA: Some ISKCON people were criticizing a woman for her advertising watching a "karmi" movie show. She asked them back, "What kind of movies is Lokanath watching ... that he wants to touch a young girl"? Yep, sounds of crickets, they have no reply.
ReplyDeleteIt is very hypocritical to worship a serial pedophile guru's parampara -- and then attack others for watching mundane movies, when all the people in the mundane movies are against worship of pedophiles. At least the mundane people have some standards of acceptable behaviors.
Yep, the ISKCON folks could not reply -- because there is no good reply. So the GBC folks are making themselves into a clown show laughingstock that even ordinary people can see clearly. Any woman who watches regular movies can defeat these people, never mind us.
ys pd