GBC Member Will Conduct Public Interview?

PADA: OK I have not seen anything like that done on a realistic basis. A lot depends on who is doing the interview -- and who is being interviewed. A GBC member will be interviewed, ok good idea, because we need to know that person's track record. One person suggested they avoid hard ball interviews because it will open up the whole can of worms problems they created. 

I think alternately an independent interviewer should interview an independent person involved with child abuse issues all along, for example maybe -- myself! I first started reporting these problems to the GBC leaders around 1979. And then I was: banned, beaten, threatened with death, threatened with lawsuits, my associates were assassinated, I was chased by three giant goondas -- but was saved at the last second by undercover cops, and then the FBI was very upset I would not take up their offer to go into witness protection -- since they thought I'd be dead soon. 

Dr. J. Stilson Judah told me he was worried he would never see me again for my regular visits and so forth. I advertised the issue in my newsletter for years and years together, including the suicides. And then finally some devotees came forward to help by creating the Windle Turley lawsuit, because the suicide situation was intolerable. 

And so we then advertised where victims could sign up for the lawsuit from my newsletter -- and so on. Yet oddly? No one from the ISKCON side ever seems to interviews me, ever, or invites me to talk about "Prabhupada memories," or asks me to give a class, and so on. Is that because anyone who tackles this child abuse issue becomes persona non grata, at least evidently. 

Which is unfortunately, what happens to anyone who reports abuse in child abuse regimes. Independent interviewers should ask the tough questions, while the GBC will bluff and fluff the situation -- at least from my experience. ys pd

SRD: How and to whom did you report instances of child abuse in the beginning when you started in 1979?

PADA: I confronted jayatirtha at the start and then the GBC sent in a team to confront me, and exile me. Of course they did offer to make me the guru of Ireland if I would cooperate.

SRD: Ireland isn't bad! What was the nature of your confrontation?

PADA: I said that if we have our children worshiping deviating people as their angels from heaven, gurus and acharyas, it is child abuse right out of the gate. It is psychological terrorism. 

I also said that some of the members of your GBC guru group are known to have homosexual tendencies and therefore, if we become what we worship, we will be potentially making homosexuals out of our children. They will become what they worship. And that is severe abuse. 

Of course, I added a lot more complaints as time went on. But yes, causing children to worship deviation is harming them and is psychological terrorism right out of the gate, because it is stealing their souls. That was my initial point, and it has been proven true in spades. I also said that being the guru of Ireland is no good, I want to be the guru of the Jagat or there is no deal. Hee hee! 

Anyway Windle Turley law firm interviewed me for hours, and they told the GBC my testimony would be placed into the court, and that is the main reason the GBC pleaded "no contest," they did not want to tangle with me in court. ys pd

S D: If someone is homosexual, I have no cause for alarm, if they are in relationships with consenting adults. However, if a homosexual person like Bhavananda uses their power to prey on boys, there is a problem, not with the homosexuality but the deviation of sexual aggression towards those he has power over.

PADA: We become what we worship, so if we have a society that worships homosexuals and pedophiles etc., we will have that manifesting all over that society, as we have seen. According to the Gita, the worshipers of the demigods, or businessmen, or ghosts, makes the worshipers develop the same qualities. We become what we worship, and we did become what we worshiped. 

There is no cause for alarm if someone is a homosexual, ok, but there is cause for alarm if that person is being worshiped by children as their guru. There are plenty of homosexuals here around San Francisco, and I have no problem with them at all. But would I tell my kids to worship one of them as their eternal guru link to God? Well nope. That would be child abuse. ys pd

S D: If someone is concerned about sexual-based lust between two consenting adults, that concern should be equal for both homosexuals and heterosexuals.

PADA: There is no generalized concern for illicit sex with consenting adults, but there is a concern if our children are worshiping illicit sex deviants as their gurus -- even if it is among consenting adults. We do not tell our children to worship porn stars for the same reason. As far as ISKCON is concerned, most of the molesting was by adult men of younger men or boys, but all molesting is sinful, agreed. ys pd

MD: Absolutely, but unfortunately Puranjan (PADA) is extremely homophobic and therefore manages to discredit his other research and ideas. I've even heard him malign Shridhar Maharaja with homosexual allegations. If he could distinguish between sadistic male pedophilia and same sex attraction and have more accurate accusations he would have made far more impact than he has made with his mission to expose the various types of abuse.

S D: Yes, definitely a guru should have exemplary behavior across the board. No doubt about that.

PADA: Sorry, I never said Sridhara is a homosexual. I said Srila Prabhupada himself noted that Sridhar supported a homosexual guru in 1936, and he noted that repeatedly. And then Sridhar supported the GBC in 1978 and he said "none should protest," (like I was protesting) and so he chopped the legs off my protest. And that is -- to the peril of ISKCON's children. 

I live in San Francisco and have many homosexual friends, but none of them think that little children should worship another homosexual as their guru. They do not think their homosexual contemporaries are the sum total of the demigods, gurus, acharyas, residents of Krishna loka etc. Almost all of them worship Jesus and not another homosexual. And so we should follow their idea, worship the pure devotee and not another homosexual. ys pd

MD: Sorry if I miss quoted you regards Shridhar Maharaja but sometimes your posts are not clear and therefore often confusing and can make readers such as myself prejudiced against your findings. I'm interested to know if you think if someone has same sex attraction that they cannot have a relationship with Krishna?

Does Krishna reject their bhakti and devotion as fake or inferior to hetrosexuals? Or are they not authorised to speak about spritual topics per se? How far do your judgements extend? How does your judgmental barometer work?

Considering that practically 99% of all hetrosexual devotees are not free from sexual attraction, is same sex attraction considered by you to be worse or more of a detriment to spiritual growth? Because there are many homophobics who claim not to be so inclined and cite their connection with gay friends as proof they are not prejudiced. Same with racists and anti semetics who give similar examples of their supposed broadmindedness.

PADA: Mundane sex attraction of all types is illusion. A person subject to illusion can certainly START to have a relationship with Krishna, but it is not pure yet. Yes, a person who is still under the modes of nature can also speak about Krishna, including myself, but only up to the limits of their realization. I could also speak about theoretical physics to some extent, but it would be not very comprehensive because I only know a few kindergarten level concepts. 

I said most of the molesting in ISKCON was generated by male adults against male children, because that is what the statistics show. That is not prejudice, that is citing statistical facts. 

As for my comments on Sridhar, I generally posted comments made by Srila Prabhupada about him, and showed how he did the same thing again in 1978, i.e. he supported conditioned souls as acharyas. 

As for the GBC gurus having consenting adult sex, either homosexual or heterosexual, porn stars also have consenting adult sex, but we do not tell our children to worship these porn stars as their gurus. If you misunderstood what I said about Sridhar, you did not read it carefully. You did not cite anything I actually said. ys pd

MD: <You did not cite anything I actually said. ys pd> probably because it was ages ago. But I know disciples of Sridhar Mahraja were highly offended by your remarks because they are not 'clearly ' defined and seem fanatical, fundamentalist and based on out of context remarks made by Prabhupada, with out consideration of subtle contexts.

PADA:  “None should protest” is what Sridhar said when I protested. I am quoting ... what they said. Then they said that ... I am making offense, so they were trying to make me a target as an offender, and they did. Again quoting them. You just confirmed that they were branding my protest as offending. Correct, that is how they suppressed my efforts, and made me a target. Ys pd