Cyril Wohrer: I just happened to read a comment of yours about ISKCON gurus. I don't know you. I do not want to know you. A bit of advice, however, from a stranger: pray to Lord Nityananda to remove 1) your philosophical misconceptions about guru-tattva, and 2) the envy in your heart. Sorry, but you're a jerk, I humbly believe, and you are not even man enough to read my messages. So good-bye.
[PADA: You are quoting Hrdayananda Das Goswami, a founder father of the "illicit sex with men, women and children guru parampara," evidently also sex with cats in samadhis. You are citing HDG as your authority, but you are also posting photos of yourself with HDG. It seems you are part of their process?
Then you are upset when we point out that Hrdayananda's group has promoted deviants, if not pedophiles, as Krishna's parampara, acharyas, guru successors and messiahs. The result of Hrdayananda's promoting their pedophile messiahs project is -- many of the children of ISKCON were mass molested. And the society was then sued for $400,000,000, and went bankrupted.
So you are evidently supporting their guru parampara? And you were in another debate with someone else -- where you were promoting "Krishna West," and cursing and swearing at others for not agreeing. We need to "modernize" the Krishna religion by having children worship sexual predators, illicit sex deviants or pedophiles as their gurus and messiahs?
I did read your messages, you cited HDG as your authority. You are also posting photos of yourself with HDG. I need to pray to Lord Nityananda, so I too can promote Hrdayananda's illicit sex with men, women, and children, and maybe sex with cats in samadhis, guru parampara. Seriously dude!
And you are posting photos of yourself with another member of the pedophile messiah's sampradaya, Mahavishnu swami. He is also evidently "2/3 show of hands voted in" to their oral sex with taxi driver's in the dhama guru parampara, also no small amount of pedophiles in his parampara.
I need to pray, so I too can promote their program of worship of illicit sex with taxi drivers in the dham, and / or pedophiles in samadhis -- as God's successors and messiahs? Why should I want children to worship pedophiles as their messiahs, as their "modernized" Krishna program has done since 1978?
I am man enough to read your messages, you are citing the founder father of the anal reconstructive surgery of children epidemic guru parampara as an authority. These people are not my authority. I do not need to pray to anyone so I can join the people who bury pedophiles and evidently sex with cats in samadhis.
As soon as I said there is a pedophile problem, your "modernized Krishna religion" people said I am a jerk. That is how your ilk caused the molesting of thousands of children. I think that the people who called me a jerk, and caused thousands of kids to be molested by ignoring our complaints, are the people who have to pray for mercy.
I am envious of Hrdayananda's anal reconstructive surgery epidemic of children guru parampara? Really? Hee hee, you guys make yourselves look more foolish every day. No sane person is envious of their anal sex epidemic guru parampara. Anyway, sorry, you are the person who is acting like a jerk. You don't want to read my messages, fine, you don't have to, you can listen to the founders of the pedophile messiah's club as you evidently are now.
ys pd]
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Hee hee, yep, having children worshiping pedophile messiah's guru projects.
How much more awesome can we get?
Yes as a matter of fact our guru parampara contains:
1) Illicit sex with men, women and possibly children;
2) Evidently -- sex with cats;
3) Therefore! We are the REAL guru parampara!
Descending From God Almighty!
4) Sign me up!
LW: Cyril Wohrer, Visvambar and all of these people ... have got contaminated by either bad parents, bad leaders, or both. They all say the same things to me too.
ReplyDeleteYou are envious! Gurus are sometimes in Maya! You don't know guru tattva! All that. They attack the character of us ... because they know ... they have no good explanation ... how a "chain of gurus from Krishna" has all these contaminations? And pedophiles are simply ... one ... of many of their guru parampara's contaminations.
Insult the critics ... and that is how they were trained. Low class people give low class argument. There is no good explanation how pedophiles are part of the parampara of Krishna. They are cheating others. And now ... as we see ... they become angry when they are exposed ... and then the name calling and insults start right away.
Insult and attack is the only card left in their hand ... no more aces left. That is good. They are cornered and they know it ... so now they resort to snarling like cornered rats. They cannot even answer question #1 ... where do we find pedophiles in the parampara for the past 5,000 years ... now all of a sudden ... there are a number of them? No answer.
M Dasi: Another defender of the indefensible. We cannot have a pedophile guru lineage ... and protect our children at the same time. We either change their pedophile guru parampara ... or keep our kids away ... or do both simultaneously. This man thinks we are jerks because ... we do not want our children to worship a children's soul killer program. See the real jerk here! He has not even tried to explain their idea to us ... just ... we are jerks ... see ya later. That is what they told me. And that is how the molesting continued onward ... they kept our protest under the radar ... and they still do. That is why the Lokanath pedophile mess rambles on and on and on ... we are jerks ... see ya later ... we will defend the indefensible. We need to have this exposed.
ReplyDeleteSD Dasi: You stupid jerks have to quit complaining! The beatings will continue until morale improves! What is wrong with all you people? Can't you see we have a nice pedophile guru program ... just bring your little kids!
ReplyDeleteYou have to clear up your philosophical misunderstandings! Gurus are often worse followers than the temple pot cleaner!
And this is representative of Hrdayananda? I thought so at the start. Smart alex ... attacking ... insulting ... personal grudge ... no philosophy. What is this person's philosophy? He does not even tell us ... other than maybe ... we have to surrender to these guru jokers. Same joker group who got sued for ruining the poor victim children of Krishna.
Can't they find anything better than this lot? Just asking for a friend! REAL Krishna East or West ... is not worshiping these jokers as Krishna's gurus. They don't know what is what ... because their leaders don't either. This man is exhibit "A" why we never want to follow these bogus leaders ... they make followers who are jerks ... just like them ... now we have a society of total jerks. I met WAY too many of them already.
Why make more jerks ... when we already see the mess the first jerks made in the first place? This is simply recycling the same jerky behavior around and around ... and expecting a different result. Which is what jerks will do ... because they don't even know they are jerks. He does not want to know who you are. But now we all know who he is. Another ... GBC guru friendly jerk.
ReplyDeleteBD: You mean this Cyril fellow is a perv in addition to being a jerk?
PADA: Well my friend who is a lawyer says that teaching children that God's successors are deviants and pedophiles is: 1) illegal corrupting the morals of minors and 2) fraud because telling children that Krishna's successors are pedophiles - is not what Krishna teaches. He is amazed no one has filed a lawsuit for having the morals of their children corrupted, or for fraud by having their children taught in such a vile process. Unfortunately, he only does property law or he would help himself. We have plenty of proof this is going on "we cannot remove Lokanath because his disciples (many children) will be upset." We have to have our ISKCON children worship pedophiles ... and they themselves know that and say that. ys pd
Jojo: Oh great timing! Joins the Kauravas army ... just before Kurukshetra war!
ReplyDeleteThese people are self evident knuckle brains. Don't they know entire GBC was sued for molesting hundreds ... maybe thousands of ISKCON kids? All your readers probably know at least one victim, maybe dozens of them. Does he not hear about victim's horror stories?
All kinds of kids are writing about how they were BADLY ABUSED. Why support the people who have made that program happen? Nothing to do with "guru tattva." It is an abusive cult.
And now some of the kulis are getting death threats ... for protesting. That is abusing them ... ALL OVER again.
It never ends with these low life anti-children gangsters. I am glad more people are coming out ... gives cover to make a few swipes at them myself. These Cyril type guys gives me the creeps ... another brain dead cult maniac. Of course ... the fish rots from the head ... he is just a minor example of how the rot spreads to the other parts of the body.
PADA: One of my ex-gurukuli friends says the ISKCON managing system operates exactly as the North Korea managing system. Kim Jong Un gets a huge mansion with many servants, and he has several Rolls Royce cars and a collection of Rolex watches. And he has imported high quality food flown in from the West where he gets huge feasts made for himself.
ReplyDeleteMeanwhile, many citizens have to eat fried cock roaches, grass, and even -- dirt. Aid groups have taken wrenching photos of children who seem to be starving to death, and everyone acknowledges that there have been severe hunger-related deaths. And we gurukulis were being fed rotten green moldy oatmeal -- and it made us vomit.
And we were skinny and our bones were sticking out, we looked EXACTLY like North Korea children. And meanwhile the "Supreme Leader" gurus were riding around in Cadillacs and having 35 course feasts made for themselves every day. Exactly what happens in North Korea.
And even now, we former kids have nothing, while a lot of the Supreme Leaders live in fancy opulent dwellings. And they all along have big cars, Rolex watches, servants, feasts, health care, Apple laptops, and nicest care money can buy etc.
And my parents would not call the police when they found out I was abused, to defend these Kim Jung Un wanna-be leaders, just like people defend the leaders in North Korea. And people in North Korea cry when Kim Jong Un hurts his foot, because it is all about serving the Supreme Leader while everyone else suffers.
The North Korea societal model and ISKCON's are - identical. Explains why some of these gurus end up living in San Luis Obisbo, Carpinteria, Venice Beach, and so on and so forth, while a lot of us ended up living in old funky apartments, or sleeping in our cars. They stole the money meant to care for us, to care for themselves.
BCS Dasi: This is what their groupies say every single time. Anyone who does not agree "pedophile's guru lineage" ... (whatever that is?) ... is a jerk. We do not know guru tattva. We need to pray for mercy! So we poor jerks can understand ... sexual deviance is in the guru chain of Krishna. This is like a broke record, stuck on stupid.
ReplyDeleteWho wants to "pray to Nityananda" to understand ... sexual predators ... are or were Krishna's successors? We first of all need to pray ... these people don't eat us for lunch ... and then eat our children for dessert!
I believe some of the people saying there is an underground pedophile cult that drinks children's blood ... adrenochrome (?) ... are onto something. Sorry ... I have to keep my distance from all of them until this is cleaned up. You are a jerk ... it is called projection.
LW: This is how they are trained in ISKCON. Anyone who does not endorse their worship of pedophile ... Krishna's guru successors ... is "a jerk." Meanwhile! The general public is astonished that anyone would want a religion that worships pedophiles.
ReplyDeleteI forgot. The general public not only thinks these people are jerks, they think these people are diabolical perverts ... or worshipers of diabolical perverts. If we do not promote pedophiles as gurus, we are jerks?
Oh boy, these people are going to be roasted after Yamaraja gets a hold of them. Imaging trying to tell Yamaraja he is a jerk because he does not promote worshiping pedophiles! Good luck with that! Hah hah!
I agree, even the prisoners in Alcatraz know that pedophiles are the lowest ... and they are not fit to be gurus. These Hrdayananda people ... don't know that ...