Nrsimhananda Das (David Shapiro) tries to explain how we can organize ISKCON as more de-centralized. Wait? The first problem is, it seems the ISKCON management system is already highly organized and centralized, at least in the most important area: "who is a guru, parampara member and God's successor in ISKCON."
Ok and their "guru parampara from God" contains -- homosexuals, pedophiles, sexual predators, drunks, drug addicts, deviants, porno swamis, orchestrators of assassinations etc. They all pretty much agree to that policy and principle, and by various means UNITE to enforce that idea as their central Guru Tattva policy. In sum, ISKCON is highly united and centralized -- at least over defending their central idea that a chain of "gurus from God" contains sexual predators, pedophiles etc. Therefore, he is really addressing the debauchee messiah's club and its leadership here?
One devotee called me to say, "the greatest obstacle in the world to spreading bona fide Krishna consciousness is -- the GBC and their illicit sex guru program." In sum! As soon as someone says, "God's successors are not debauchees and child molesters etc." -- then the GBC wagons start to unite and circle around to defend themselves from these types of objections. So they are highly organized, at least when it comes to defending and deflecting criticisms that they are attacking the "guru chain from God" as containing various deviants.
And when some of their pedophile and pornography "God's successors" swamis depart, they might be placed in "a samadhi in the holy dham." Why? So that the little children of ISKCON can go there and bow down to these pedophile and deviant messiahs "holy burial sites"? And all of this would not be possible without a highly centralized and highly orchestrated regime to set all of this in place. To sum, it is already highly centralized and organized to make these pedophile samadhi etc. events happen.
In fact someone wrote to tell me how the ISKCON leaders had to get all sorts of permits and documents from the government to allow these deviant's burial sites. So, they are organized, at least when it comes to making homosexuals, pedophiles and assorted deviants into "links" in their "guru chain from God," and so on and so forth. Worse, they are meticulously organized on that front.
And! As soon as anyone (like our Prabhupadanugas) say -- NOPE! "God's successors / gurus / parampara members / acharyas etc. are NOT illicit sex with men, women and children deviants -- then we are generally targeted as "against ISKCON" and are pretty much banned, removed and exiled from ISKCON. And we have literally countless examples of that, including our own example.
Nrsimhananda das says we need independently thoughtful people, but it seems to many of us -- as soon as anyone reads Srila Prabhupada's books independently -- and discovers that Krishna's guru successors and acharyas are NOT sexual predators / pedophiles / homosexuals and criminals etc., and they repeat that idea, then they are pressured and edged out of the society. So much so, Lokanath swami once wrote that ISKCON has become a ghost town, where did all the devotee go? Well it is simple, the devotees who said acharyas are not deviants have been removed, like we were. This process is HIGHLY organized in a huge scheme ALL OVER the planet.
The list of deviations in their "eternal parampara from God" is really endless, as the "guru chain from God" in the ISKCON parampara contains: drunkards; drug addicts; porno swamis; homosexuals; pedophiles; criminals; orchestrators of assassinations and so on. OK! And anyone who disagrees is then shunned; marginalized; called a useless fringie; vilified; removed; exiled; sued; if not chased out of the temple with baseball bats; threatened with death; and sometimes "dissenters" are beaten and killed.
And the people who orchestrated all that process, like for example: Jayapataka swami, Mukunda Swami, Prabha Vishnu ex-swami, Hari Sauri das, Bhakti Vikas swami, Kuladri, Badri Narayan swami, Radhanath swami et al. are still pretty much the current leaders now. So the central idea is -- God's successors are often debauchees and deviants, and that has been their central theme all along since 1978 and it still is their central theme now. And their pedophile messiah's dogma is highly enforced by a centralized team of these leaders. Anyone who objects is sent to the ISKCON GBC's Siberia exiles Gulag.
So centralized management or not centralized management is not the REAL issue, the issue is "what is your central Guru Tattva siddhanta"? And their central siddhanta all along since 1978 is, gurus are often debauchees. So if Krishna's successors are often debauchees, that makes Krishna Himself also a debauchee since He is "shaksad hari tvena" with His guru successors. So that is their central idea, God is a giant debauchee since His successors are. And! Enforced as a highly centralized policy with highly centralized push back on anyone who disagrees.
And of course we have Jayapataka saying he is another Jesus because he is "taking the sins of all the devotees." Why would we say that the founder fathers of the worship of illicit sex with men, women and children as God's messiahs process, is another messiah himself, who can absorb sins like Jesus? People are not supposed to worship illicit sex deviants as their messiahs, what to speak of a centralized and organized parampara that contains such deviants.
And they are all there in Mayapur, where one of the most prominent founder fathers of the entire pedophile pooja process (Jayapataka swami) is worshiped there as another Jesus. The founder father of the anus reconstructive surgery for kids epidemic, is -- a messiah like Jesus? So that is their central program, and thus centralized management or decentralized does not matter -- if the founder fathers of pedophile messiah programs are their current messiahs. Did we forget to mention their program had to be sued for $400,000,000 for mass child abuse and they pleaded "no contest" in court.
In any case, the good news is, there are a lot of independently minded people out there, and they are coming to our side and joining our idea -- God is pure and therefore His successor is also pure. This is good news for us, the more they promote their illicit sex with men, women and children messiah's program, the more the truly independently minded people are coming to us. Goody! We will take all of em! ys pd
LW: Reminds me of the TV show ... "Cops." A drunk drives through the crowded market place. He runs over some people ... but he just drives on ... like nothing ever happened. Then the police have to chase this drunk for miles ... and he is "not sure what the problem is."
These GBC type guys seem pretty thick skinned people ... with hardly any feelings for other beings like ... their victims. After they were sued for $400,000,000 ... you think they would remove (at least censure) the leaders responsible. Not what they did!
They put these leaders in samadhis instead!!!
No feelings. Imagine the victims ... seeing the leaders of their molesting cult being worshiped ... in a samadhi. No feelings for the victims. Serpents dressed as people? Then some victims commit suicide ... and it is like the drunk who goes through the market ... they do not even know they cause others to suffer and die. Or maybe they know and they are happy others suffer and die.
And you are right ... they act all disorganized ... but they all know who the enemy is ... it is us people who worship Srila Prabhupada. The snake acts like it is sleeping ... but when it hears our footsteps ... it gets ready to bite. They will bite us anywhere we show up .. all over the world.
Nothing shocks us anymore. I believe the people ... who say there are serpent demons on this earth running things ... they might have a good point. The serpents are thick skinned beings with no feelings ... they just bite whenever and wherever they can ... with no remorse. We need independent and thoughtful minded people? Who will worship our devious guru parampara. Who wants to sign up? No wonder it is a ghost town.
It is a business ... and the $400,000,000 lawsuit is simply one of the costs of their doing business. They do not care what it costs ISKCON ... as long as they can get their teeny piece of the stolen bread. These students at Mayapur are being mislead to think Krishna's guru parampara is a home for crooks and perverts. I hope their program fails before it hurts too many others. Jayapataka caused all of us to suffer ... his suffering is just getting started.
LW: Reminds me of the TV show ... "Cops." A drunk drives through the crowded market place. He runs over some people ... but he just drives on ... like nothing ever happened. Then the police have to chase this drunk for miles ... and he is "not sure what the problem is."
ReplyDeleteThese GBC type guys seem pretty thick skinned people ... with hardly any feelings for other beings like ... their victims. After they were sued for $400,000,000 ... you think they would remove (at least censure) the leaders responsible. Not what they did!
They put these leaders in samadhis instead!!!
No feelings. Imagine the victims ... seeing the leaders of their molesting cult being worshiped ... in a samadhi. No feelings for the victims. Serpents dressed as people? Then some victims commit suicide ... and it is like the drunk who goes through the market ... they do not even know they cause others to suffer and die. Or maybe they know and they are happy others suffer and die.
And you are right ... they act all disorganized ... but they all know who the enemy is ... it is us people who worship Srila Prabhupada. The snake acts like it is sleeping ... but when it hears our footsteps ... it gets ready to bite. They will bite us anywhere we show up .. all over the world.
Nothing shocks us anymore. I believe the people ... who say there are serpent demons on this earth running things ... they might have a good point. The serpents are thick skinned beings with no feelings ... they just bite whenever and wherever they can ... with no remorse. We need independent and thoughtful minded people? Who will worship our devious guru parampara. Who wants to sign up? No wonder it is a ghost town.
It is a business ... and the $400,000,000 lawsuit is simply one of the costs of their doing business. They do not care what it costs ISKCON ... as long as they can get their teeny piece of the stolen bread. These students at Mayapur are being mislead to think Krishna's guru parampara is a home for crooks and perverts. I hope their program fails before it hurts too many others. Jayapataka caused all of us to suffer ... his suffering is just getting started.