Meanwhile, Hanuman Croatia's GBC "messiah from heaven who can absorb sins like Jesus guru" aka "Sridhara Swami" was saying Prabhupada had appointed 11 conditioned souls as Krishna's guru successors. Ooops! Includes Kirtanananda. Right out of the gate -- that makes the Berkley Police folks more advanced than Sridhar Swami, because Sridhar was still in the illusion that these GBC guys are gurus. There is no evidence Sridhar ever broke free from that illusion?
So Hanuman's guru's program has been promoting Kirtanananda et al. as God's "pure as Jesus" messiahs. And they are still promoting the Kirtanananda hand maidens even today (like Sridhar) while the police -- or even the village drunk -- have dropped all these guys as bogus a long time ago? Did we forget to mention -- Sridhara Swami was great pals with Tamal, Radhanath, and the whole inner circle of molester messiahs program's leaders?
Whereas the regular karmis -- who maybe eat hamburgers and / or drink alcohol -- figured out a long time ago that these "gurus" are bogus. OK! Or maybe, criminals! Why is Hanuman Croatia essentially saying that even the village drunks are more advanced than Krishna's gurus (like Sridhara Swami), because they can spot a fake guru way before Hanuman's program has been doing? I also see no evidence that Sridhara Swami ever even recanted. OK forever!
And admitted they were promoting conditioned souls (and maybe criminals) as Krishna's successors and gurus? The police woke up right away, the village drunks never accepted that these GBC are gurus, but Sridhar never did figure this out? Like -- ever!
Why would we say deviants and fools are Krishna's guru successors in the first place? Krishna is God -- and therefore, His successors are sometimes: homosexuals, pedophiles, drunks, crooks and deviants. Where is the even most basic respect for God, if we make deviants into His successors? Even the town drunk would never do that, because even the drunk knows it is an offense to God to declare that deviants are God's successors. In sum, the town drunk has at least some minimal respect for God, so he would not insult God like these Sridhar Swami folks, by juxtaposing God and His successors with -- deviants.
So the town drunks are -- more or less -- "woke up" to these basic truths, but the Hanuman program -- never woke up? And Hanuman still advertises GBC Sridhar Swami as the guru he worships. So the people who promote homosexuals, pedophiles and deviants as God's messiahs -- are fit to be worshiped, whereas the town drunk worships only Jesus, because he knows only Jesus is fit to be worshiped. So we should attack the town drunk as "a bogus Christian," but worship the founder pillars of the pedophile messiah's program? Wait! The town drunk is more advanced than all of these GBC type guys put together, because he AT LEAST knows we have to worship a pure devotee -- and not deviants.
So it seems Hanuman Croatia is advertising that it is better to drink Vodka than chant Hare Krishna, because then you will be way smarter and way more advanced than people like Hanuman's guru Sridhara Swami. To my understanding Sridhara Swami never EVER admits that the 11 were not appointed as gurus, and the 11 are not and were not gurus, and the whole thing is a hoax. And worse, they were promoting people like Radhanath as gurus (the people voted in by the 11).
Self-evidently many "karmis" have been way ahead of Sridhar Swami in "guru tattva" realization. And they have been also way ahead of Sridhar Swami in GOD realization, because they know that deviants are not, were not, could not have been, God's successors. Why doesn't Sridhar Swami and / or his followers know these same things?
At the same time, some folks have argued -- that me and Sulochana were taking drugs and / or alcohol. What does it matter even if we were? We know that deviants are not God's guru successors. Sridhar Swami and his pals do not know.
Worse! Hanuman Croatia says because me (and Srila Prabhupada?) were "associated" with the GBC folks in the 1970s, that makes us complicit in their becoming gurus. Ummm, nope, just because me (and Srila Prabhupada) were "associated with" fallen people and maybe even criminals -- does not mean, we endorse ANY of these fallen folks as -- God's gurus and messiahs?
I am associated with all kinds of people, but that does not mean I am promoting them as God's gurus and successors? Hanuman seems to think -- that just because I was "associated with" someone -- by being in the same room with them, that means I am trying to make them the next worshiped messiah from heaven. Nope. Whereas! People like the GBC's Sridhar Swami were not just associated with the GBC, he was actively promoting them as God's gurus and God's successors. There is a difference!
When I was driving a taxi in San Francisco I was "associated with": Christian ministers, Hindus, business people, unruly kids -- who put their melted candy on my car seats, homosexuals, prostitutes, drug dealers, dog walking business people (with their dogs), people making out in the back seat, and maybe criminals -- and who knows -- maybe even murderers. That does not mean, because I was merely "associated with" such people, I was therefore promoting some or any of them as God's messiahs?
Hanuman does not get it? Just because me (and Srila Prabhupada) "associated with" these GBC people, does not make that an endorsement that they are NOW God's messiahs and God's successors. Of course even the village drunk knows that, just because I am driving around all kinds of potentially devious people in my taxi, and I am "associated with" these people, that does not mean I am recommending we worship any of these people as God's successors?
Has Hanuman been drinking Vodka, and that is why he cannot distinguish ANY of these things? Not really picking on the poor Hanuman guy per se, we get this same thing, the "GBC guru ideology" from all sorts of "devotees" all the time. He is just one of the star examples. Just showing folks the types of arguments we get from GBC brain infected folks -- all the time, starting even way back in 1978.
Well prabhu, sure they are conditioned souls, but they are God's successors, what is the problem? The problem? It is -- that even the village drunk knows conditioned souls are not God's successors. That is the problem in a nutshell.
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M DASI: Quote from Bhakti Caru swami: Srila Prabhupada created a house where the whole world can live and he is taking care of that house as its most magnanimous host. He built a transcendental ship to take us across this dangerous ocean of material nature and he himself is still steering it. All we have to do is just remain on this ship with full confidence that the most expert captain is in control as the founder-acarya. [Srila Prabhupada’s Special Position as the Founder-acarya of ISKCON. Spiritual Connections August 2001]
ReplyDelete*** I am always amazed ... the GBC has to make a special group about promoting "Srila Prabhupada's special position." The Prabhupada special position group ... needed for ??? But who took him out of his special position ... they never have a committee to study that. He built a house we could all live in ... but they removed us ... so they could have many fanatics and perverts fill up the house instead of us. There are some good souls left ... but not many.
He is guiding the ship. No ... you took him out of his special position and filled his position with fools ... and perverts. I know ... I was there when the manure hit the fan. I cannot figure out people like Hanuman?
The manure hit the fan a long time ago. His guru Sridhar was pushing his manure gurus into the ISKCON fan ... the whole time he was alive ... right up to his last breath. Now Hanuman says we have to worship the people ... who spread the manure gurus all over ISKCON? Why does he want ISKCON to be worshiping the manure spreaders ... like his guru Sridhar? Let us clean the manure out of ISKCON ... while worshiping the people who spread the manure. That is what happens when their brain is full of the GBC manure. They cannot be separate from it ... because ... they become manure spreaders themselves ... which I have seen so many times. They worship manure spreaders ... keeps the manure. People who drink Vodka know these GBC people are full of manure ... and knew it way before Sridhar and Hanuman ... they still don't know what is pure and what is manure. The drunks do. Yes, Hanuman is really advertising ... is it better to be a drunk that a Hare Krishna ... you will be more advanced. He is still part of the manure ... and maybe always will be. He just cannot remove the manure from his brain.