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[PADA: The Jadurani episode is interesting because the whole "everyone must surrender to Narayan Maharaja" process was actually a program launched by the ISKCON GBC's leadership (like Tamal Krishna swami) themselves. Narayan Maharaja was being "consulted" by various GBC gurus like Satsvarupa early on, and then advertised by various GBC's as ISKCON's "shiksha guru" "rasika guru" "senior advisor" etc.
Thus, around 1984 NM was recruited by Satsvarupa to help write "The Guru Reform Notebook." This booklet later became the ISKCON GBC's textbook for their 1986 "Guru Reform" -- wherein the GBC (A) reinstated their (homosexual) "illicit sex with taxi drivers" "Vishnupada" -- and (B) started voting in many more "gurus." That was the sum and substance of their reform -- self evidently.
Not much of a reform really? So this was really a compromise deal to make a second tier of gurus with "the reformers" (like Ravindra Swarupa / Radhanath / Prithu / Gaura Govinda maharaja / Jayadvaita / Trivrikrama et al.) but it does not settle the question, how can conditioned souls be "gurus" in the first place?
More importantly, how can the SAME people who reinstate sex with taxi drivers as their acharya, certify more acharyas? And why would we say a person who is known to be having "oral sex with taxi drivers" is a Jesus-like messiah, who can absorb the sins of others? How can the sinful absorb the sins of other sinful people? NM and ilk -- never explain?
Yasomatinandana dasa wrote in 1986, "we have given the gift of a homosexual guru to Lord Chaitanya for His 500th appearance day." So just about everyone in the upper levels knew this process was going on, and evidently so did Narayan Maharaja since he discussed how the GBC was making homosexuals into their gurus. Even Gaura Govinda Maharaja told me -- he knew they were reinstating homosexuals as their gurus (at the very same time they were voting him in as guru).
And Hrdayananda said -- of the reform "The Mad Acharya Disease -- has become an epidemic." Thus! Instead of reducing the number of false acharyas, or eliminating them, they made -- more and more false acharyas. Which of course leads to more problems, scandals, deviations and so on. And Narayan Maharaja was pouring gasoline on this fire.
Meanwhile Srila Prabhupada says -- considering gurus to be ordinary men (gurusuh narah matih) is the mad elephant offense, which destroys devotional service -- and makes one ALREADY a resident of hell (narakha sah). Of course the GBC hand picks deviants to be their gurus, and they do not even want "ordinary men" like the village trash man to be their gurus.
Nope! They evidently want people less qualified than the trash man to be their gurus, indeed they often want deviants / molesters / sexual predators / drunks etc. to be their messiahs from heaven. And NM supported the GBC in this process. Jayadvaita sums that their guru chain contains "illicit sex with men, women and children." And that is the "guru chain" that Narayan Maharaja became the main shiksha advisor to? And Jadurani says she is just following the nectar, to the illicit sex with men, women and children guru program's vociferous ring leader?
And then these "we are voting in more acharyas" policies became viciously enforced, as anyone who questioned the GBC / Narayan Maharaja co-authored "Guru Reform" process was labelled as an offender and was removed from ISKCON. In short, we HAD to follow NM and his ideas, or face banishment, or worse. NM was now the ISKCON GBC's main "shiksha guru advisor," and his advice rapidly became the "GBC law" of ISKCON.
Thus at the time, Narayan Maharaja was being credited with "saving ISKCON" by helping the GBC institute their "Guru Reform." Of course, when they announced their guru reform one Indian gentleman in the audience asked, "how can the guru need be in need of reform"? And his answer was never replied to, they changed the subject and moved on.
A guru reform? Fine! Except the reformers, including Narayan Maharaja, never explained why a successor to God, a guru, needs to be "reformed" for deviations -- from square one? The 1986 "reformers" also: excommunicated Sulochana, boosted Radhanath and others as big authorities, and voted in about 20 more gurus -- and slated many more to be voted in the following years, which happened. Thus the GBC / NM "reform" simply aided and abetted the original 1978 "11 gurus" deviation, by adding more and more conditioned soul people to the original deviation.
So now we have had a policy of -- sex with taxi drivers gurus -- and the people who voted to reinstate sex with taxi drivers gurus -- as the leaders of the "reform" process -- to now vote in many more gurus. How could this lot be in charge of certifying God's successors? Why doesn't NM know that a homosexual / pedophile / sexual predator / drunkards guru process is not authorized from square one, never mind not authorized to "vote in" and certify many more gurus?
And this has been Narayan Maharaja's idea of how to "reform" ISKCON? Meanwhile Narayan Maharaja was saying those of us who wanted to establish the worship of Srila Prabhupada as the acharya for ISKCON are "ritvik poison." And yet "the ritviks" have been the main people exposing the child molesting, book changes, and other deviations.
So that helps the criminal guru program cover their crimes, by chopping the legs off the protest of the criminal guru program. The dissenters to their pedophile guru program are "ritvik poison" -- also paints a bulls eye on our backs for violence. We are being demonized as "poison." No wonder Sulochana was murdered -- right after they announced the reform?
And thus! We all know by now the result, by demonizing Sulochana and raising Kirtanananda's position once again by saying "we cannot offend a great Vaishnava like Kirtanananda," this created a violent cult atmosphere where Sulochana was murdered, which lead to a big SWAT team raid on New Vrndavana -- and all sorts of terrible newspaper media stories condemning ISKCON as a violent whacky cult. OK, so this is the result of their reform, of which Narayan Maharaja was one of the chief ghost-writing architects?
After the Sulochana murder, some devotees sobered up and realized these gurus are a hoax. Meanwhile, the Narayan Maharaja program went the other direction, and started to say the ISKCON gurus are "rasika devotees." NM was then declared as ISKCON's "rasika advisor" and he was giving "rasika classes" to the GBC's "rasika club" -- such as Tamal, Giriraja, Sivarama, Indradyumna, Satsvarupa, evidently Mahanidhi types -- and others. So now the leaders of "the enforced cult ritualistic worship of homosexual and pedophiles as messiahs project" were being advertised as "gopi rasika" devotees?
Oddly, at the same exact time we were helping molesting victims with gathering their testimony for a court case in Dallas, Narayan Maharaja was in Dallas shouting at our friends for having doubts about the GBC guru process, headed by Tamal. So NM is in Dallas to promote his and Tamal's pedophile guru process, while the Dallas courts are fried and disgusted at NM's pedophile guru process.
Yet Jadurani says we have to "follow the nectar." Banning, beating, molesting, suing and assassinating Vaishnavas is a nectar program? And thus we have to promote its biggest defender / apologist / supporter / cheer leader / hand maiden / Tamal bucket boy / -- Narayan Maharaja? Sorry, this is not nectar.
I just got a nice letter from a female ex-gurukuli who said being in gurukula was like being in both heaven and hell at the same time. Knowing about Krishna was heavenly, but being treated worse than regular people treat their dogs was like hell. She says she cries all the time thinking about how badly they were treated and how some of her friends committed suicide and some of them started to eat meat and etc. So we need to follow the nectar, but why is one of the chief co-orchestrators of hell on earth for children, a source of nectar?
Can someone splain' that to us? And why was NM my number one harassing critic when I launched the poison case? Oh, I forgot, he was still trying to say Tamal is a good saint at the time and he was unhappy we were exposing their "kill guru and become guru" cult. Yep, that is the way to follow the nectar. Ummm, ok maybe not. ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com
PS just got another letter from another person asking all sorts of questions on these same topics.
LD: Narayan Maharaja just stole ISKCON people. He has no potency to make his own movement. He rides on the Tamal train ... to get his foot into the ISKCON door.
ReplyDeleteHe just does what GBC gurus do -- siphoning off devotees from Srila Prabhupada ... and making that "good preaching." It is like moving the same amount of fish into different aquariums. Looks like many more fish. No. Same amount of fish just dividing them into smaller and smaller groups ... does not make more fish.
Making more schism groups ... which is not uniting the devotee's society. He is just another guru camp ... among many ... that will never make Srila Prabhupada the acharya. My experience with their group is ... a lot of them smoke pot ... and they have a loose standard. It is watered down ... except they think now they are qualified to be gopi rasikas. It is a sahajiya movement.
Narayan Maharaja was best friends with Tamal ... and he even went to go visit Kirtanananda to hug him. But he said avoid the ritviks ... because ... they do not worship homosexuals as their guru? He is just another good old boy ... in Tamal's good old boy club.
I do believe Tamal is behind the poisoning complaint from Srila Prabhupada. Then Narayan Maharaja becomes the best promoter of Tamal ... does not show much credible intelligence ... on his part. And neither do his followers have much discrimination ... they still advertise talking to Tamal on their site.
It is another bogus guru cult. We are very fortunate to know that Tamal and his associations are all bogus people. Birds of the same feather. Better to be an eagle who is alone than to be in a flock of crows in the garbage pile.
Jadurani has no idea that Narayan Maharaja was in Dallas promoting the pedophile guru mastermind Tamal ... which means they all have to go to hell. No one is allowed to promote a pedophile guru program ... in the kingdom of Krishna. They do not know that ... because they are in illusion. We need to get out of illusion ... if we want to please and serve Krishna. "Pleasing and appeasing" the pedophile guru loving club ... is not going to please Krishna ... ever. They do not know that because fools will worship another fool ...
GKD: RE Namarasa Morning Program with Jadurani DD.
ReplyDeletePrabhupada disciples were driven to NM by the GBC. The GBC wanted all the temples just run by new disciples and their gurus. They considered Prabhupada disciples who are not gurus as trash that "is poisoning the newly joined disciples". Or, GBC 1977: "Prabhupada disciples who are not gurus are in a fallen condition". They had divided the world into zones and in every zone they placed one of their gurus. Even when all Prabhupada disciples were told to be gurus this was not their plan. They wanted zones and in every zone just one guru. So they deported thousands of Prabhupada disciples to NM. Of course these Prabhupada disciples didn't consider NM to have real knowledge. For them NM was a man who talks much but has no realization. But somehow he could organize and form a society. That's why they stayed there. Otherwise those Prabhupada disciples who did not join NM could not organize themselves but broke up and lived scattered all over. Many moved back to their parents and many just became like vagabonds. So what happened in the NM camp they occasionally gave the rotten GBC zonal acarya project side blows, potshots, cynical remarks. Something like, "here is the real nectar come to us". But this was not meant to say that NM is better than Prabhupada. They knew we were kicked out of ISKCON and these fools over there simply ruin Prabhupada movement and render it into a meaningless kali-yuga club. During class they often laughed down NM because they knew this man is not up to the standard.
[PADA: Yes, the GBC used Narayan Maharaja as a vehicle to promote their guru club, so they could spin off their own independent guru clubs as separate personality cults later. And he was a willing participant, since he could then later spin off his own club, which he did eventually.
That is why I like LD's idea, they just moved the same fish around to different aquariums, they were not really making hardly any new people but recycling a lot of the existing people. Most of the NM crew came from ISKCON. So they stole a bunch of people from ISKCON, because the GBC was openly advocating going to NM. The GBC advertised the pied piper who took off with the citizens. Then later they complain, NM is stealing our citizens. OK but you set him up as the shiksha guru of ISKCON in the first place ... you created your own monster. So all of this was part of the process of disintegrating and exploiting ISKCON, and it is still going on.]