Gaura Govinda Maharaja: ISKCON Needs Debauchee Gurus

PADA: Two sides there are. The spiritual side, and ooops, there is no other side except -- mundane contamination and illusion. There is the spiritual side, where people worship Krishna's pure devotees. Then, there is -- the other side -- worship of mundane conditioned souls, but this process is not authorized by the acharyas. Rather, worship of conditioned souls as acharyas takes the false acharya and his followers to "the lowest regions of the universe." Says who? Shastra. Did we forget to mention -- when conditioned souls absorb sins from other conditioned souls, they have to suffer and their followers also have to suffer?

Where in the Vedas are we told to worship mundane conditioned souls as "Krishna's successor gurus" to maintain "the organization"? We need to worship Satan, to preserve the Church of Jesus? Really? Yep, if there is one thing Krishna always says it is "Hey, you need to worship Satan if you want to please Me"! 

OK Nope. 

Meanwhile, although the Church has had a lot of bumpy ride problems, the basic institution -- and root idea -- has survived because everyone agrees to the root idea -- to worship the acharya. That is because they separate "the managers" from "the acharya," whereas GGM wants to blend them together as one unit. "This is an organizational matter." Nope. It is a spiritual matter, we have to worship the pure devotee acharya, or else there is nothing bona fide about worship of contaminated conditioned souls as the acharya.    

Not so for ISKCON? 

You mean we need to have ISKCON's children worship a guru lineage of homosexuals, pedophiles and assorted debauchees etc. "to preserve the ISKCON institution." The institution of -- who or whom? Satan? And if we do not have people worshiping homosexuals, pedophiles, sexual predators, debauchees, drunkards, drug addicts and criminals "the organization will collapse." Who believes that their Church needs to worship pedophiles and deviants as messiahs, in order to preserve their Church? Where is any of this stated in shastra? 

O boo hoo, GGM is afraid his pedophile pooja program will -- collapse. Well it collapsed anyway didn't it? And now we are left trying to rummage around in the GGM leftover wreckage to pull out a few survivors.    

"Even Krsna Himself personally took part in the Battle of Kuruksetra so that Maharaja Yudhisthira, a Krsna conscious king, could sit on the throne of the empire. 

But now the foolish people are electing rascals like Nixon and then regretting it and trying to impeach them. They should know, however, that either Nixon or Dixon or anyone else, if the leader is not Krsna conscious he cannot do anything good for the people in general. 

You are therefore doing a great service by trying to make people Krsna conscious as you have done in the contest in Atlanta. Don’t worry about the result; go on trying."

Letter, November 1, 1973

So the GBC is going to "vote in" self-evidently various rascals as gurus, and that is going to fix everything? Nope. Srila Prabhupada says voting for rascals cannot do any good. Where does GGM get the idea that the GBC can "vote in gurus," from square one? There is no order to vote in gurus, what to speak of an order to vote in sometimes rascals and deviants as gurus.

And! Didn't GGM's molester messiahs process cause ISKCON to collapse anyway, and declare itself bankrupt over the mass child molesting -- created by Gaura Govinda Maharaja's "gurus"? How does that preserve the institution? And who authorized GGM to create his (what Sulochana says is) "tossing children into a wood chipper" program? GGM has to toss little children into a wood chipper -- in order to preserve his precious institution? 

Ooops! Same problem we have had with the Sanat / Mukunda UK / Prahlad UK / Pancali / Janardan / HKC Jaipur team, they all screamed in horror when they found out we were stopping their program of tossing ISKCON's children into their molester messiah's worshiping wood chipper. These folks -- and their GBC friendly allies -- were actually very ANGRY that their anus reconstructive surgery epidemic was being curtailed. Amazing, what the world needs more of is, child raping epidemics. Then we wonder why there are problems? We need to preserve worship a child raping process, to save God's institution? On what planet?, (OK hell). Sulochana said these people are "boot lickers for the butt busters." Hmmm, sums them up quite well, eh what?  

Wait? Is this not what all sorts of people call "institutional -- ritualistic Satanic child abuse"? There is "the enforced cult ritualistic worship of homosexual pedophiles as gurus regime," and GGM is one of the "enforcers" and indeed he is their resident high priest brahmana / sadhu scholar, who writes position papers for the GBC, to defend their process. GGM stood up at the GBC meeting crying that they were going to remove Tamal. Why would we want to remove the people who are generating $400,000,000 child molesting lawsuits in Dallas -- against ISKCON?

Worship of deviants:

A REQUIRED ELEMENT in GOD'S INSTITUTION? 

Or else God's worship will collapse!

Where does God say this is required in

HIS institution?

Why would we want contaminated souls to be worshiped as God's successors in any event? That is to say -- if we had an ounce of respect for God. Narayan Maharaja created the same issue. He said ALL of the ISKCON disciples are ALL monkeys. OK fine. Agreed. Ooops! Then he said, but 11 of these monkeys are Krishna's successors and gurus. OK, can you start splaining' to us how 11 monkeys are God's worshiped successors? They are monkeys, therefore they are God's successors, what could go wrong here pilgrims! 

Did we forget to mention that worship of conditioned souls as gurus DESTROYS institutions, and destroys the lives of thousands of the citizens of that institution. Srila Prabhupada says that worship of mundane conditioned souls as gurus -- makes their whole institution also -- mundane. 

And lest we forget, "we become what we worship." So -- if we have a society that worships pedophiles, deviants, sexual predators, and crooks etc., then we later pretend to wonder why we have problems with these issues in our society? (A) We become what we worship. Therefore, (B) lets worship sexual predators and crooks! That will (C) save -- the institution? The institution of -- what?    

First of all! There is no such thing as a mundane "organizational acharya." Rather the acharyas always condemn the worship of mundane organizations and their "self appointed" acharyas. And since the GBC's gurus are sometimes prone to be sexual predators, if not illicit sex with men, women and children deviants, porno swamis etc. -- why would we want the children of any society to worship such deviants as their acharyas? And wasn't the result of the GGM plan the MASS ALIENATION of most of the children of ISKCON, who mostly left in disgust, if not sued the institution for their horrific abuses. 

Where in the Vedas does it say, "make your children worship homosexuals, pedophiles, sexual predators, drunkards, drug addicts, if not criminals as -- their gurus"? Ok that is not found in the Vedas. And if the children do not worship pedophiles and deviants as their messiahs the mission (of Satan?) will collapse?

To tell children to worship sexual predators and their gurus -- all the while knowing -- these children are prone to become what they worship -- on the principle people often become that which they worship -- then what is the result we are trying to achieve here? Lets have our children worship Satan, Stalin, Rasputin, Jack the Ripper, Al Capone, ummm, because they will then become what they worship? And that will preserve -- the empire of God? Or Satan?   

None of this makes sense? Or it makes a lot of sense, if the aim and object is to produce contaminated souls aka "atma hana" killers of the soul.  

Children need to worship homosexuals, pedophiles, drunks and / or various crooks and criminals as their messiahs, because otherwise the institution will fail. OK wait, if that is the policy, then the institution has already failed. 

"They want to be gurus. They want some position. This is all material and nothing else." So they wanted a position, which means they have material motivation. Why would we allow such people to become worshiped as God's successors? They are material, and nothing else, so let us have them worshiped as God's messiahs? They are material, nothing else, so we should have our children worship them, and then we make pretend we are shocked our children later reject the religion?

We should make the world worship the materially conditioned, and nothing else? Again, none of this is stated in shastra. We have to get people to worship mundane people who are materially motivated, and these are the people we give acharya titles to? They are material, and nothing else, so lets worship them as God's successors. Ooops, if the material and corrupted is God's successor, that makes God material and corrupted.

The problem for people like GGM is, he will then have to explain to Lord Yamaraja why he wants people to worship his illicit sex with men, women and children deviants as God's successors process. You can maybe fool some of us Kali Yuga citizen fools here, but you can never fool Lord Yamaraja and the agents of God. ys pd   angel108b@yahoo.com