Sanat / Stephen Voith / Writes About PADA

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From: Stephen Voith <stephenlvoith@gmail.com>

Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2020, 11:33:37 AM PST
Subject: Re: krishna1008: Gadai Das "Deathbed Confession"?

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What’s becoming evident is that Puranjan is somehow connected to the baseless charges of murder (against Gadai), because no one in this area was able to find and contact Gadai since he was moved clandestinely from his original care facility for the purpose of asking Gadai if he had made the bizarre confession - or IF INDEED HE WAS EVEN AWARE that the news was claiming he had made such confession before “law enfarcement authorities.”

[PADA: That is why I said -- IF -- this confession is true. I do not know any other details because Gadai never discussed this with me. He may have confessed or maybe not, however generally law enforcement does not just make up these type of "confessions" for no reason. Generally they rely on testimony that only the perp would know -- before identifying a clear suspect. 

For starters, the police are reluctant to name the wrong person for any crime, because that means the real culprit goes free. If law enforcement said Gadai confessed, I assume that is correct, but have no way of validating this info one way or the other. 

My experience with law enforcement is that they are honest people, at least for the most part. However as we see below, Sanat himself later on says he has doubts, and in fact Gadai may have "possibly" committed the murder crime -- which is what PADA said, it is possible. Nor are confessions like this bizarre. It is somewhat common for people on their death beds to admit to affairs, crimes -- or similar events -- since they want to clear off their conscience. Hence the term, death bed confession.]  

SD: Why would the authorities move him to an unknown place unless there was need to keep him out of range of those concerned about him (including my wife and local Angelica friends)? (And how is it that puranjan is so much in the know about Gadai even having passed on when not one person in the county knows? Unless Puranjan is part of a conspiracy against Gadai - which is plausible considering by his own admission puranjan had made (false) statements to “the authorities” in Angelica way back when, about our family. 

[PADA: Gadai said to me he was avoiding Sanat because he was causing trouble everywhere, and he did not want to be associated with Sanat. Gadai could very well have not "disclosed his location" to Sanat, to avoid the trouble he brings along. And if Gadai was now the chief suspect in a murder case, the police may have placed him in a clandestine location themselves, so they could keep track of him, also common practice with law enforcement. The police at one point wanted to move me to a clandestine location after Sulochan was murdered. It is what they do.

Gadai said Sanat was making it impossible for Krishna devotees to live in Angelica, because he was acting badly while advertising as a devotee. Gadai said this is exactly what the GBC gurus are doing -- and there is very little difference between the arrogant and crazy GBC -- and arrogant and crazy Sanat. Identical behavior, except the GBC are the bigger actors and Sanat is their wanna-be. 

And in the late 1990s Sanat (Steve Voith) wrote to the New York Times, Dallas courts etc. that he wanted to have ISKCON's children "killed in a bloodbath in Dallas," and Srila Prabhupada's children need to be "killed, chopped up and fed to dogs." I was notified of his death threats to the molesting victims by some of the law enforcement authorities in Dallas, and so I simply forwarded and re-reported these threats to the Angelica police. 

The Angelica police thus knew that Sanat was making these death threats against child molesting victims, and law enforcement folks in general agree that these type of threats against child molesting victims is all about -- defending the perps or the entire molesting project. Law enforcement told me these Sanat types are "the enforcers" for the child molesting cults, and it is common that children victims get Sanat style violence threats in molester cults -- again, from these molester cult "enforcers" like Sanat. 

Sanat has been perhaps one of the biggest death threateners to the ISKCON molesting victims on record, telling them to be quiet so he could cover up for his child molesting guru program. Again, Sanat's type of threats to victims is very typical of child raping and molesting cults everywhere, they make death threats against the victims. Common practice. 

Some of the molesting victims have told me they would like to ***** Sanat up the ***** with a *****, but hey lets just say he is not popular with a number of victims since Sanat was cheering on their suicides.  

So Sanat self-evidently wanted to silence the victims with his threats, to defend his anus busting guru program, which even various law enforcement agree is the real reason victims get these threats. He is threatening the molested children to defend the perps and their regime. And then Mukunda UK / Prahlad das UK / HKC Jaipur folks / Bhakta Peter etc. joined in to defend Sanat. Of course Sanat is also doing the happy dance when the victims commit suicide, silence em' that way too!

What kind of people are doing the happy dance when children commit suicide, and die? Then we wonder why there are so many problems around ISKCON?

If people want to have molested children killed, chopped up and fed to dogs to silence them, those people are generally referred to as -- the assistant hand maidens to the molesters and perps. So the Angelica police told me, no problem, this Steve Voith guy is ALREADY well known as the town's a**hole biggest trouble maker. And we ALREADY have to keep an eye him. 

Already! 

We will now just double down on looking after him. So the Angelica police have to baby sit this guy who is always running around town acting like he owns the place, and they have to deal with his childish tossing tantrums. The police were not in the least surprised he was saying he wanted to have molested children chopped up and fed to dogs, and I sent the Angelica police a copy of Sanat's death threat writings -- so they probably still have it there on file (and may have given a copy to cops in his new location).] 

  

SD: If the excuse is given (for moving Gadai into an incommunicado location) was ‘because he was too ill,’ then why was Gadai not too ill to have discussions with law enforcement ?! Anyway something is rotten in denmark here. Puranjan clearly know or knew about Gadai’s “confession” early on; therefore he is complicit in any untoward action that may have been committed to cause Gadai to die untimely. 

If pada knew he died then pada knew he confessed. Then he would have found out it was made up - just to frame Gadai David Sherk for a crime that local law enforcement KNEW HAD BEEN PERPETRATED by someone else. 

So puranjan is promoting a falsehood. Which he knows is false. (We don’t know even for sure WHEN Gadai passed away, because he was hidden away; so but puranjan ‘knows’ therefore puranjan is part of some strange conspiracy here. And likely being paid to promote this false narrative.

None of it adds up. Especially PADA today making his PREDICTABLE im not a thief statement: ‘Reaaly guys, I JUST TODAY FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME HERD ABOUT THIS FLOSSIE THING, honest injuns pillgrims !!!’

[PADA: Where is the proof I knew about this earlier? This is all speculation. Again, Gadai told me he was trying to stay aloof from Sanat, no surprise he did not want Sanat to know his location. And if the police thought he was their prime suspect, the police may have moved him to a clandestine location themselves, to keep tabs on him. This happens all the time with the police, they move suspects to clandestine locations, such as a prison hospital. Happens every day. I really do not read Sanat's rants -- except maybe once in a few years -- so I have no way of knowing what he is reporting or not.] 

SD: Liar liar pants on fire!! Riiiiight, puranjan didn’t know this for 35 years, although every devotee in this area knew it, uh huh. I was born at night but it wasn’t last night. PADA knew all the goings on in Angelica and was aware of this as well. How is it NOT ONE person in allegany county could figure out where Gadai had been moved to, and were shocked when i informed them yesterday of padas revelation about Gadai’s passing ?!???!! But puranjan in California got inside information of this event ?!???!!?

[PADA: Well we sometimes get fresh news, old news, wrong news, or no news. An associate of Gadai told an associate of mine of his departure, so this was all third hand, which is how a number of our stories come out. I have no control over how and when we get information. Not one Sanat crew person knew where Gadai was, that means his plan to stay aloof from Sanat was working. Or it means the police did a good job of keeping their suspect under wraps. This has nothing to do with PADA?]  

SD: Very mysterious indeed !! I ain’t buying it !!! If pada is in touch with Gadai’s relatives then clearly they would have reported Gadai’s death to the news and there would be an announcement in the press, which there is not. 

[PADA: I am not in touch with his relatives and have no idea who they are, or where they are. And I was barely in touch with Gadai. He would write me a few times in a year, often some very short message or something like that, he was not in regular touch with me the whole time. He did say he liked my work, other than that, I really did not know much about his situation. He was not a great communicator according to, himself. He agreed with the ritvik idea, but that does not guarantee he either is -- or is not -- a saint.]

SD: To lie that he wasn’t aware of the flossie incident is incredible. Especially because I’ve been explaining this online for two years. How did he suddenly find this out - and how’d he know about Gadai’s passing but not this, until today ?!

Pada knew our every movement in Angelica for years because he was in constant contact with Gadai and several others. He knew things before i did. This is the very definition of sinister. Sinister motives. Twisting truth for a tamasic purpose.
Defame our legitimate struggle to follow Prabhupada’s order of protecting cows at any cost; demonizing it as “criminal” while pretending his “friend” Gadai - who’d already in 1986 been incarcerated for six months for shoplifting - and his possible involvement in Flossie’s murder, was “a good devotee and friend.” Never mentioning it, but using Gadai to put road blocks at every turn to our beneficient activities.

[PADA: OK but now you are saying Gadai has a criminal record and may have been "possibly involved in the murder"? So that means you are agreeing with law enforcement, after you just said this was a conspiracy against Gadai? 

We find out all kinds of things about all kinds of devotees, often after the fact, after some time, but we have no way of regulating how and when we will find things out. I found out for example that one of my ex-senior God brothers -- whom I had previously trusted a lot some decades ago -- had been arrested for possessing child porn, but only because by chance someone sent me a newsclip from India. Thus, I know some things sometimes, but not everything all the time, and it would be silly to assume I know everything all the time, that would make me the supersoul.]

SD: I don’t even believe Gadai was involved in the murder, though there are some doubts. 

[PADA: OK but you said he had a criminal record and may possibly have been involved in the murder? Now you don't believe he was involved, after just saying he may have been? You are arguing with your own shadow. 

I have doubts about all sorts of things. That is what I said basically - IF he is involved. I cannot say for sure, because I am not a mind reader or mystical seer. However! It is not normal for law enforcement to target a false suspect without good cause, that covers for the real suspect and ruins their investigation. 

Gadai maybe told them details of the crime that only the perp would know. And that is why they have been marking -- the case is solved. They would not say they had good cause that he is the suspect without corroborating evidence of some sort. Most likely Gadai had facts that only the culprit would know, that is generally how they decide these "admission" cases.]

SD: Pada knew all this all along but for his own political agenda of suppressing Prabhupada’s program here - mainly because of his grudge that I criticized his windle turkey project - he tried his best to destroy our Prabhupada created initiatives and used his friends towards this demonic end. 

[PADA: But Windle Turley wanted to save the ISKCON children who were committing suicide, while at the same time Steve Voith wrote to me angrily "well how many are dead, huh, huh, huh?" Sanat clearly wanted MORE of the victims to die, because he complained -- not enough had died already. How many kids have we tossed into the wood chipper, well who cares -- not enough yet! 

And Sanat was really infuriated that hundreds of ISKCON kids were being pulled out of GBC schools thanks to the lawsuit alerting the parents. Why does Sanat want five years old children to worship a pedophile guru cult and stay in their "guru-schools"? And he is angry, that children are not worshiping his favorite pedophile guru cults? 

OK! Sanat wants children to worship pedophile guru cults, and then he claims he wants to help children? Yes, he wants to help children worship pedophiles as their gurus and he is incensed when that worship is stopped or suppressed. And then Prahlad says, he is on the side of Sanat. And Bhakta Peter says, these guys love children! Really?

The children need to worship illicit sex with men, women and children guru cults, and stay in that process? Why does Sanat want little children to worship the GBC's dead homosexual pedophiles in samadhis process -- at all? And what is the difference between Sanat and his pals and the GBC?

OK Sanat is not worried that SOME (not enough) children are dying under his army tank treads, he is just worried that his army tank is getting children's blood on it. Windle Turley does not want ANY ISKCON children to be dead, never mind asking "how many are dead" before he is going to try to help. Yep, the fire department was going to come and put out the hotel fire, but not enough are dead yet, we will come after there is a larger percent body count.

What percent of dead victims is enough? They never tell us?

And! Who thinks like that? Not enough dead children yet? 

Molester club lovers, whom else? 

Not enough victims are dead, let us wait until our tank treads have more dead child carcasses built up, then we will do something. And what are you Sanat guys going to do to help these kids? You are going to go to the SSI office and tell them you are crazy because you are a Hare Krishna. So you can get SSI payments, like Sanat did. How is that helping anything? 

That is giving Krishna a bad name at the SSI. Being a Hare Krishna makes a person go crazy, and that is what we go and preach to people at the SSI? Like their program is doing? That is HARMING the name of Krishna, big time! And then your "best friend" Mukunda is writing the life stories of Hitler's SS officers, and that is really helping Krishna's name?

And! How many children have to die before a company recalls a faulty baby seat? Even one death is considered as too many. Any normal person is not doing "a body count" when it comes to children who are dying. "Well sure SOME are dying, but NOT TOO MANY"? And that is simply not going to work, the baby seat company will be called murderous deviants if there is not a recall after ONE untimely death.  

That is also what the GBC guru program people told me all along "not too many kids are molested and dead." Swell! We have to break free of this cult idea that we can toss "only a few children" into a wood chipper and that is an acceptable amount. NO CHILDREN, not even one, should EVER be tossed into a wood chipper. EVER! NEVER! 

Yes, Sanat / Mukunda / Prahlad das / HKC Jaipur et al., they were thinking evidently NOT TOO MANY CHILDREN are going into our nice children's wood chipper machine, so lets rev up the chipper engine and toss "a few more" kids in there! Windle Turley said NO KIDS should go into their wood chipper. At least he understands we cannot toss little children into a wood chipper, and destroy their lives thereby?]   

SD: Gadai supported this unfortunate attack and now Gadai was also wrongly accused of the flossie disappearance. Krishna karma.

[PADA: You just said you do not know if he is wrongly accused? He may be wrongly accused, but if he made a confession, he accused himself? It is possible he admits to a crime he did not commit, who can say for sure. It looks like he confessed -- and there was some supporting testimony that only the perp would know -- so we have to run with what we do know. 

Gadai told me that after Sanat was saying he wanted to "kick in the teeth" of Srila Prabhupada's children, he and Sanat were operating a big mechanical post hole digger. And the machine snapped up and hit Sanat in the face, crushing in his face. Gadai thought Sanat was dead. 

Gadai said Sanat's head had to be surgically glued back together and have pins all over to keep his face from compacting again. Gadai told me, "Just see, Sanat wants to have Srila Prabhupada's children die in a bloodbath, be beaten, kicked in the teeth, and basically killed and chopped up, so Sanat himself gets beaten, kicked in the teeth, and chopped up in surgery. Krishna gave him the same treatment he wanted to give to Krishna's children." So yes, Gadai was telling me how he believes Krishna sorted out Sanat's karma.]

SD: Pada stated he is also soon to be departing, but perhaps not - perhaps he will get the aswattama curse and remain alive long time for his grievous offenses against Prabhupada’s ongoing cow protection program.

[PADA: Yes, the police read some of the threats I get, or that Sanat sends to children that he wants to have them chopped up and fed them to dogs, and they ask me: "How come the Hare Krishna's will not eat a cow, but they want to eat you for dinner? They are clearly blood thirsty people, they want your blood, or even children's blood baths in Dallas, and badly. They are after human's blood while crying about cow's blood. Hypocrites."

And then, how can I preach to the police after having to show them all these threats I am getting? These Sanat guys are making my preaching hard as they possibly can. 

Let us not forget that Sanat's wife Linda Voith told me she was a teacher in Satsvarupa's gurukula where ALL of the kids were molested. Did they go to the police and report Satsvarupa, or ISKCON, or the perp, or anything to anyone? They told me -- nope. Sanat and his wife -- did nothing, as they told me themselves. 

Same thing, they only told me years after the fact. They did not make a big show and tell to the other parents that we know of either. So they criticize I knew things -- and did not say anything, but I was an outsider and was only finding out third, fourth, fifth, tenth hand info. 

They were right there in the GBC gurukula scheme at the scene of the crime. The duty of reporting the crime is primarily in the hands of the "on the scene" witnesses, not someone third or tenth hand removed like me. They should have taken down the molester messiahs program themselves, and they could have as the on the scene participants. 

Nope, they waited until Windle Turley had to do something while their silence was technically and literally killing children. Now they are angry, their lack of reporting was literally killing kids by suicide, and someone had to put an end to their glorious peodphile guru loving party? So this is what we are dealing with folks, and it is a very sad day when we have to report that allowing children to get molested and die from suicide is NOT what a Krishna devotee should be doing. 

Windle Turley never would have been involved if devotees like Sanat and his wife had done their job to protect these ISKCON children. They failed, and now they are blaming the people who have had to try to fix the mess they left behind. They pumped in a ton of stinking poop into the ISKCON house, then started to attack the plumbers when the plumbers were called in to fix their poopy mess.  

ys pd]  

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