This site was supposed to be the spokesperson's for Hrdayananda's "Krishna West," but it seems to have a much more broader Srila Prabhupada and Krishna attacking / pro-academia version of the Vedas agenda. It appears that the site manage, Mr. Shenkar, would rather have us all surrender to mundane academia's version of the Vedas rather than Srila Prabhupada's.
And where is the GBC when it comes to controlling who has legal rights to use of the title and name of "ISKCON"? As soon as we say deviants are not acharyas -- using the name of ISKCON -- then the GBC spends $20M suing us for misuse of "their legal ISKCON title."
So, if we are saying acharyas are not deviants -- then the GBC are saying we have no authority to be using the name of ISKCON. Yet if someone uses the name of ISKCON to say mundane academia is superior to Srila Prabhupada's writings, that agenda is allowed by the GBC to use the name and title of ISKCON. Why is the GBC aiding, abetting and allowing the promoting pro-academia versions of the Vedas and attacking Srila Prabhupada's version, by allowing the title of ISKCON to be used for this purpose? Is this the real GBC agenda, to make Krishna into a mundane figurehead who is to be described by mundane academics, and not by the acharyas? ys pd
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Those Who Would Destroy ISKCON
BY: JIM BLACK
ISKCON is under constant assault from the agents of Kali. Here, I am not referring to deprogrammers, "anti-cultists" or fundamental religionists whose exclusivism condemns Vaishnavism as the devil's work... their position is obvious. I am referring to the many senior members from within ISKCON itself as well as those from ISKCON's lunatic fringe.
From within ISKCON we see senior members who want to go into mundane charity work, such as opening hospitals and eye clinics. We see sannyasis who cheapen their esteemed ashram by associating with women, or who loan money (with interest) from their sizable bank accounts. We see hatha-yoga classes in temple rooms, right in front of the Deities.
Now, concerning the lunatic fringe who want to change ISKCON: I ran across a website, "ISKCON.us", which, according to internet WHOIS records, is run by Alexander Shenkar. One of the articles on the website is "Is ISKCON a Cult?". "Cult", in this sense, is not defined as "a system of religious veneration", but is used in the perjorative, sinister sense.
BY: JIM BLACK
ISKCON is under constant assault from the agents of Kali. Here, I am not referring to deprogrammers, "anti-cultists" or fundamental religionists whose exclusivism condemns Vaishnavism as the devil's work... their position is obvious. I am referring to the many senior members from within ISKCON itself as well as those from ISKCON's lunatic fringe.
From within ISKCON we see senior members who want to go into mundane charity work, such as opening hospitals and eye clinics. We see sannyasis who cheapen their esteemed ashram by associating with women, or who loan money (with interest) from their sizable bank accounts. We see hatha-yoga classes in temple rooms, right in front of the Deities.
Now, concerning the lunatic fringe who want to change ISKCON: I ran across a website, "ISKCON.us", which, according to internet WHOIS records, is run by Alexander Shenkar. One of the articles on the website is "Is ISKCON a Cult?". "Cult", in this sense, is not defined as "a system of religious veneration", but is used in the perjorative, sinister sense.
The conclusion of the article is "yes". But what is most telling is the comments section for the article. One person asks, "How would you change ISKCON?", and the webmaster writes, "I would remove Prabhupada murtis and Prabhupada's books from temples. Then I'd commission academics to translate SB and CC to replace Prabhupada's version."
This is how the agents of Kali work. They want to change things. But in a room conversation will Bill Faill (a reporter) on October 8, 1975, Srila Prabhupada said: "This movement is very, very old and standard. It is never changed. As soon as you change it, then the potency of the movement is lost."
This is how the agents of Kali work. They want to change things. But in a room conversation will Bill Faill (a reporter) on October 8, 1975, Srila Prabhupada said: "This movement is very, very old and standard. It is never changed. As soon as you change it, then the potency of the movement is lost."
OK well first of all, lets discuss on one point at a time. (A) the GBC allows the people who want to remove Srila Prabhupada's murtis and books from all ISKCON centers to use the legal name of ISKCON (ISKCON.US). Whereas those of us who want to keep Srila Prabhupada's books and murtis in his temples, and we want to do that under the name of ISKCON, we are being banned and sued.
ReplyDeleteWhy is the GBC allowing the Prabhupada book burning party to use the name of ISKCON, and forbids and sues us from using it? How can we dialogue with the same people who want to facilitate the Srila Prabhupada book burning program under the name of ISKCON, and they ban and sue those of us who want to keep the books and murtis of Srila Prabhupada using the name of ISKCON?
Isn't the purpose of ISKCON to keep the murtis and books of Srila Prabhupada? And it so, why are they banning us and allowing the Prabhupada book burning program to use the legal title of ISKCON? If you want to open a dialogue, this would be a good starting point. You seem to be unable to address any of the specific actual points that need to be addressed? ys pd
OK prabhu, I am sorry for not making enough sense.
ReplyDelete(A) The GBC sues those of us who want to use the title of ISKCON to keep the deity and books of Srila Prabhupada in ISKCON.
(B) Meanwhile! The GBC legally allows those who want to get rid of Srila Prabhupada's murti and books to use the legal title of ISKCON.
What is not clear?
OK again, the GBC gives legal license for deviants to use the title of ISKCON, i.e. those who want to kick Srila Prabhupada out of ISKCON, and they sue and forbid those people who want to keep the deity and books of Srila Prabhupada.
My question to you is, are they doing this because its their real colors actual agenda finally surfacing, or is it just an accident? And if it is an accident, why are they not fixing it after allowing this site to go on for some years now?
Sorry they are not allowing people to use the title of ISKCON if they want to keep Srila Prabhupada in ISKCON, and they are allowing people to use the title of ISKCON -- who want to banish Srila Prabhupada from ISKCON. You need to explain this. ys pd
The GBC is out of control and no longer has any idea how to address all this? Nope! Its very controlled, they attack us for using the name of ISKCON while they allow the Srila Prabhupada attackers to use the name of ISKCON, its very under control, that is their agenda. ys pd
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