Wednesday, December 7, 2016

Bhakta Torben Still Promoting Worship of Nothing

Stainless Steel-nail to the Ritvik Coffin


"If you have not found out a spiritual master, but if you are sincere, then Kṛṣṇa will take you to a bona fide spiritual master. And if you get a bona fide spiritual master, then he will take you to Kṛṣṇa. So both things parallel. If you are sincere... Krsna is always sitting within your heart, caitya-guru, the spiritual master within the heart. That spiritual master within the heart manifests himself externally as spiritual master.

Sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair uktas tathā bhāvyata eva sadbhiḥ. Sākṣāt, directly, directly representative of Kṛṣṇa.

This is the verdict of all śāstras. Samasta.

Samasta means all śāstra. Sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair uktas tathā bhāvyata eva.

And it is not only stated, but it is accepted as such by all great sadbhiḥ, devotees."

Srila Prabhupada, Los Angeles, 16th of May, 1970

[PADA: OK sorry, but we are the people who have put a nail in the Torben's program's "living gurus" by exposing that their alleged "Jesus like" living gurus are often debauchees. And notice, we have forced Torben to be unable to even mention the name of his alleged living guru in public, because Torben says as soon as he mentions the name of his living (GBC) guru "we will make offenses to his guru." 

Well no, we will not make any offenses, we will simply point out that Torben's guru lineage is out there having illicit sex with men, women, children and maybe goats. And that is why we have shamed poor Torben into not mentioning that his living guru's program is still connected to the GBC's debauchee guru process.

So we are the people who put a nail in the Torben / Rocana / Kailash / project because now they can never even tell anyone who their alleged living guru is anymore? That means they have no guru that they can recommend in public, because as soon as they tell us the name of their alleged living guru, we will link the name of their living guru to the GBC's debauchee program. So now Torben is openly promoting the worship of NO ONE and NOTHING. Of course why do they prefer to worship no one and nothing instead of worshiping Krishna and His pure devotee? The solution to life is, to worship no one and nothing? This is mayavada on steroids.

Torben is however correct, people who are sincere will find the bona fide guru SRILA PRABHUPADA and they will stop worship of Torben's illicit sex guru process / worship of nothing-ness pooja. Yep, this is the whole problem, the Rocana / Kailash / Torben program has been promoting the worship of deviants, and we caught them, and so now they cannot even tell anyone who the guru is! We have shamed them into silence! 

All glories to NO ONE! 
Who lives NO WHERE! 
Who has NO NAME! 
Who has NO BOOKS! 
Who has NO TEMPLES! 

Hah hah, so the guru they have now is official -- its NOBODY! They cannot even mention who their guru is, because of us, we have shamed them into stopping promoting of ANYONE, to stop them from promoting debauchees. Anyway, their idea that illicit sex is the shaksat hari tvena guru is falling apart, and the ritviks are winning because at least we know who their guru is! 

Good job Torben, we put a nail in your idea's coffin, you cannot even name your living guru anymore because we have shamed your living guru project into silence. That means we are winning, a religion that promotes the worship of NO ONE is not going to take hold, its going to collapse, and it is. 

Hah hah, we will "make offense" by pointing out that Torben's gurus are deviants, or supporters of same, this is not a good explanation is it? Of course this begs the question, why doesn't Torben's guru lineage know that acharyas are not deviants? And we cannot attain God by worship of nothing? ys pd]


  1. I know, these guys are amazing, they want everyone to worship their living guru, who does not even have a name, a book, a temple, nothing. You are right, their idea is "All glories to nobody." This has nothing to do with Vaishnava culture, Srila Prabhupada says the people who fail to give the names of their guru are MAYAVADAs. We are not MAYAVADAS, we know who the guru is! ys pd

  2. Yes. Torben's friend Kim Moller says that Srila Prabhupada's warning us not to make kanisthas into diksha gurus is not correct, he says any Srila Prabhupada disciple can act in the capacity of Jesus and absorb sins as a diksha guru. OK that means they think people who are like Jesus are falling down, they have no clue what is the qualification of someone like Jesus. They are the same as the bogus GBC. ys pd


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