Friday, August 23, 2019
ISKCON is not a supermarket (Bhakti Vikas Swami VIDEO)
PADA: This is interesting, people in Russia are wondering why so many books are being distributed, but there are hardly any temple dwellers in the West. The temples are empty. No kidding!
Why aren't devotees being made?
And BVKS answer in part is, that ISKCON is advertising too many off shoot deviations such as Yoga classes and so on. Ooops, Bhakti Vikas forgets to mention -- that it is his "living" ISKCON GURUS -- who are the very same folks introducing all these deviations. They are gurus, therefore, they are deviants? Does that make a lot of sense? BVKS has promoted that "the ritviks" are bogus because they are not worshiping these deviants as their gurus. Who else should they worship?
Yep! It is the BVKS bogus GBC guru sabha that is the source of ALL these deviations, and BVKS correctly points out that none of this is following Srila Prabhupada. So his GBC folks are gurus, but they are not following. The GBC's has voted in a pile of gurus, indeed they also voted in BVKS in as guru, but they are deviants. How can deviants vote in gurus, including BVKS?
BVKS keeps avoiding the real point, that it is his "guru sabha" who are the people introducing all these deviations. BVKS also says people need to surrender to Krishna, forgetting that this is not possible without first accepting the proper guru. Srila Prabhupada never said we can just surrender to Krishna, he said we need to accept the proper guru in disciplic succession. BVKS never points this out? We just need to surrender to Krishna, that itself is a deviant idea, because it steps over the parampara.
Instead BVKS makes more and more confusing points, for example he has often insisted "the ritviks" are deviants because they worship Srila Prabhupada, and the GBC are the actual gurus, but then he says -- these gurus are deviants. Again! How can gurus be deviants? In fact BVKS says that more and more it appears that his ISKCON leaders and gurus are being considered as agents of Kali Yuga. Agents of Kali Yuga are gurus? How is that going to work practically? Then again, that is the real reason the temples are empty, who wants to worship agents of Kali as their guru? And why would BVKS promote a system where people have to worship the agents of Kali as their "live gurus"?
Did we mention, BVKS complains -- the leaders did not make VARNASRAMA. OK, what leaders? I forgot, its the BVKS guru program that did not make varnasrama. BVKS makes it sound like some anonymous unknown program failed, but its his guru program that failed.
BVKS keeps saying we need to surrender to the Brahma Madhva Gaudiya sampradaya, the same sampradaya he is voted into. And this sampradaya self-admitted contains illicit sex with men, women and children. How is that the bona fide sampradaya? He never explains. Worse, BVKS says that the guru is always a transparent via media to God, but he never explains how his illicit sex with men, women and children guru parampara is a transparent media to God? So many contradictions here?
Wait! Illicit sex with men, women and children guru paramparas are "the transparent via media to God"? Then they wonder aloud ... why their temples are empty? Then BVKS says -- some of our great ISKCON preachers have videos with over 1,000,000 hits, but there is NOTHING about Krishna on these videos, indeed they are not even mentioning Krishna. OK so the followers of the BVKS guru parampara are not being trained properly by -- the gurus in his guru parampara. Or worse, the followers are being trained to promote mundane programs. How is this a transparent media to Krishna?
Then BVKS brings in the example of the great success of Jesus. Ooops, but worship of Jesus is the bogus ritvik idea. So BVKS says we cannot be worshiping someone like Srila Prabhupada or Jesus, the posthumous persons, we need to worship his living guru people, but then he says -- his living guru people are deviants. So we cannot worship someone like Jesus or Srila Prabhupada, we have to worship the living GBC gurus, but they are deviants. Making sense yet? Oh yes, worship of Jesus is the path to success. No wonder his gurus need percodans!
Then BVKS mentions the gurukula system, ooops, you mean the system that his GBC guru program produced -- of beating and molesting kids -- that had to be sued for mass molesting. This is a gurukula system? How is that a gurukula system? He never explains why his program produced this mess and called it a gurukula?
Anyway, we could go on here, but its obvious BVKS is not really answering the questions people are giving him. He always misses the point, intentionally. Anyway, his program is producing empty temples, that was known in 1988 when Lokanath swami said these temples are empty "ghost towns." And we know why that is happening, people do not want to worship the BVKS illicit sex with men, women and children guru parampara, and now he says, agents of Kali guru parampara to boot. Its pretty simple, his guru system is being rejected and that is the real cause of his empty temples syndrome. Meanwhile the Prabhupadanuga temples here are full of people. Imagine that. ys pd
Amazon Destroyed for Beef Production (CNN)
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/23/americas/brazil-beef-amazon-rainforest-fire-intl/index.html
PADA: Oh heavens, we cannot post the photos of the animals burnt in the fires, its too distressing. Krishna has to save us from this place, there is no other way out. ys pd
PADA: Oh heavens, we cannot post the photos of the animals burnt in the fires, its too distressing. Krishna has to save us from this place, there is no other way out. ys pd
The Birth of Lord Krishna
BIRTHDAY CELEBRATION - STORY OF LORD KRSNA
1. Nanda Maharaja was naturally very magnanimous, and when Lord Sri Krsna appeared as his son, he was overwhelmed by jubilation. Therefore, he invited brahmanas who knew how to recite Vedic mantras. After having these qualified brahmanas recite auspicious Vedic hymns, he arranged to have the Vedic birth ceremony celebrated for his newborn child according to the rules and regulations, and he also arranged for worship of the demigodsand forefathers.
2. Nanda Maharaja gave two million cows, completely decorated with cloth and jewels, in charity to the brahmanas. He also gave them seven hills of grain, covered with jewels and with cloth decorated with golden embroidery.
3. The residence of Nanda Maharaja, was fully decorated with varieties of festoons and flags, and in different places, gates were made with varieties of flower garlands, pieces of cloth, and mango leaves.
4. The cows, the bulls and the calves were thoroughly smeared with a mixture of turmeric and oil, mixed with varieties of minerals. Their heads were bedecked with peacock feathers, and they were garlanded and covered with cloth and golden ornaments.
5. Offering blessings to the newborn child, Krsna, the wives and daughters of the cowherd men said, "May You become the King of Vraja and long maintain all its inhabitants." They sprinkled a mixture of turmeric powder, oil and water upon the birthless Supreme Lord and offered their prayers.
6. Now that the all-pervading, unlimited Lord Krsna, the master of the cosmic manifestation, had arrived within the estate of Maharaja Nanda, various types of musical instruments resounded to celebrate the great festival.
7. In gladness, the cowherd men enjoyed the great festival by splashing one another's bodies with a mixture of curd, condensed milk, butter and water. They threw butter on one another and smeared it on one another's bodies.
8. The great-minded Maharaja Nanda gave clothing, ornaments and cows in charity to the cowherd men in order to please Lord Visnu, and thus he improved the condition of his own son in all respects. He distributed charity to the sutas, the magadhas, the vandis, and men of all other professions, according to their educational qualifications, and satisfied everyone's desires.
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KRSNA, the Supreme Personality of Godhead
By His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda
Chapter 3
The Birth of Lord Krishna
As stated in the Bhagavad-gītā, the Lord says that His appearance, birth, and activities, are all transcendental, and one who understands them factually becomes immediately eligible to be transferred to the spiritual world. The Lord’s appearance or birth is not like that of an ordinary man who is forced to accept a material body according to his past deeds. The Lord’s appearance is explained in the Second Chapter: He appears out of His own sweet pleasure. When the time was mature for the appearance of the Lord, the constellations became very auspicious. The astrological influence of the star known as Rohiṇī was also predominant because this star is considered to be very auspicious. Rohiṇī is under the direct supervision of Brahmā. According to the astrological conclusion, besides the proper situation of the stars, there are auspicious and inauspicious moments due to the different situations of the different planetary systems. At the time of Kṛṣṇa’s birth, the planetary systems were automatically adjusted so that everything became auspicious.
At that time, in all directions, east, west, south, north, everywhere, there was an atmosphere of peace and prosperity. There were auspicious stars visible in the sky, and on the surface in all towns and villages or pasturing grounds and within the minds of everyone there were signs of good fortune. The rivers were flowing full of waters, and lakes were beautifully decorated with lotus flowers. The forests were full with beautiful birds and peacocks. All the birds within the forests began to sing with sweet voices, and the peacocks began to dance along with their consorts. The wind blew very pleasantly, carrying the aroma of different flowers, and the sensation of bodily touch was very pleasing. At home, the brāhmaṇas, who were accustomed to offer sacrifices in the fire, found their homes very pleasant for offerings. Due to disturbances created by the demoniac kings, the sacrificial fire alter had been almost stopped in the houses of brāhmaṇas, but now they could find the opportunity to start the fire peacefully. Being forbidden to offer sacrifices, the brāhmaṇas were very distressed in mind, intelligence and activities, but just on the point of Kṛṣṇa’s appearance, automatically their minds became full of joy because they could hear loud vibrations in the sky of transcendental sounds proclaiming the appearance of the Supreme Personality of Godhead.
The denizens of the Gandharva and Kinnara planets began to sing, and the denizens of Siddhaloka and the planets of the Cāraṇas began to offer prayers in the service of the Personality of Godhead. In the heavenly planets, the angels along with their wives, accompanied by the Apsaras, began to dance.
The great sages and the demigods, being pleased, began to shower flowers. At the seashore, there was the sound of mild waves, and above the sea there were clouds in the sky which began to thunder very pleasingly.
When things were adjusted like this, Lord Viṣṇu, who is residing within the heart of every living entity, appeared in the darkness of night as the Supreme Personality of Godhead before Devakī, who also appeared as one of the demigoddesses. The appearance of Lord Viṣṇu at that time could be compared with the full moon in the sky as it rises on the eastern horizon. The objection may be raised that, since Lord Kṛṣṇa appeared on the eighth day of the waning moon, there could be no rising of the full moon. In answer to this it may be said that Lord Kṛṣṇa appeared in the dynasty which is in the hierarchy of the moon; therefore, although the moon was incomplete on that night, because of the Lord’s appearance in the dynasty wherein the moon is himself the original person, the moon was in an overjoyous condition, so by the grace of Kṛṣṇa he could appear just as a full moon.
In an astronomical treatise by the name Khamaṇikya, the constellations at the time of the appearance of Lord Kṛṣṇa are very nicely described. It is confirmed that the child born at that auspicious moment was the Supreme Brahman or the Absolute Truth.
Vasudeva saw that wonderful child born as a baby with four hands, holding conchshell, club, disc, and lotus flower, decorated with the mark of Śrīvatsa, wearing the jeweled necklace of kaustubha stone, dressed in yellow silk, appearing dazzling like a bright blackish cloud, wearing a helmet bedecked with the vaidūrya stone, valuable bracelets, earrings and similar other ornaments all over His body and an abundance of hair on His head. Due to the extraordinary features of the child, Vasudeva was struck with wonder. How could a newly born child be so decorated? He could therefore understand that Lord Kṛṣṇa had now appeared, and he became overpowered by the occasion.
Vasudeva very humbly wondered that although he was an ordinary living entity conditioned by material nature and was externally imprisoned by Kaṁsa, the all-pervading Personality of Godhead, Viṣṇu or Kṛṣṇa, was appearing as a child in his home, exactly in His original position. No earthly child is born with four hands decorated with ornaments and nice clothing, fully equipped with all the signs of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Over and over again, Vasudeva glanced at his child, and he considered how to celebrate this auspicious moment: ”Generally, when a male child is born,“ he thought, ”people observe the occasion with jubilant celebrations, and in my home, although I am imprisoned, the Supreme Personality of Godhead has taken birth. How many millions of millions of times should I be prepared to observe this auspicious ceremony!“
When Vasudeva, who is also called Ānakadundubhi, was looking at his newborn baby, he was so happy that he wanted to give many thousands of cows in charity to the brāhmaṇas. According to the Vedic system, whenever there is an auspicious ceremony in the kṣatriya king’s palace, the king gives many things in charity. Cows decorated with golden ornaments are delivered to the brāhmaṇas and sages. Vasudeva wanted to perform a charitable ceremony to celebrate Kṛṣṇa’s appearance, but because he was shackled within the walls of Kaṁsa’s prison, this was not possible. Instead, within his mind he gave thousands of cows to the brāhmaṇas.
When Vasudeva was convinced that the newborn child was the Supreme Personality of Godhead Himself, he bowed down with folded hands and began to offer Him prayers. At that time Vasudeva was in the transcendental position, and he became completely free from all fear of Kaṁsa. The newborn baby was also flashing His effulgence within the room in which He appeared.
Vasudeva then began to offer his prayers. ”My dear Lord, I can understand who You are. You are the Supreme Personality of Godhead, the Supersoul of all living entities and the Absolute Truth. You have appeared in Your own eternal form which is directly perceived by us. I understand that because I am afraid of Kaṁsa, You have appeared just to deliver me from that fear. You do not belong to this material world; You are the same person who brings about the cosmic manifestation simply by glancing over material nature.“
One may argue that the Supreme Personality of Godhead, who creates the whole cosmic manifestation simply by His glance, cannot come within the womb of Devakī, the wife of Vasudeva. To eradicate this argument, Vasudeva said, ”My dear Lord, it is not a very wonderful thing that You appear within the womb of Devakī because the creation was also made in that way. You were lying in the Causal Ocean as Mahā-Viṣṇu, and by Your breathing process, innumerable universes came into existence. Then You entered into each of the universes as Garbhodakaśāyī Viṣṇu. Then again You expanded Yourself as Kṣīrodakaśāyī Viṣṇu and entered into the hearts of all living entities and entered even within the atoms. Therefore Your entrance in the womb of Devakī is understandable in the same way. You appear to have entered, but You are simultaneously all-pervading.
When Vasudeva, who is also called Ānakadundubhi, was looking at his newborn baby, he was so happy that he wanted to give many thousands of cows in charity to the brāhmaṇas. According to the Vedic system, whenever there is an auspicious ceremony in the kṣatriya king’s palace, the king gives many things in charity. Cows decorated with golden ornaments are delivered to the brāhmaṇas and sages. Vasudeva wanted to perform a charitable ceremony to celebrate Kṛṣṇa’s appearance, but because he was shackled within the walls of Kaṁsa’s prison, this was not possible. Instead, within his mind he gave thousands of cows to the brāhmaṇas.
When Vasudeva was convinced that the newborn child was the Supreme Personality of Godhead Himself, he bowed down with folded hands and began to offer Him prayers. At that time Vasudeva was in the transcendental position, and he became completely free from all fear of Kaṁsa. The newborn baby was also flashing His effulgence within the room in which He appeared.
Vasudeva then began to offer his prayers. ”My dear Lord, I can understand who You are. You are the Supreme Personality of Godhead, the Supersoul of all living entities and the Absolute Truth. You have appeared in Your own eternal form which is directly perceived by us. I understand that because I am afraid of Kaṁsa, You have appeared just to deliver me from that fear. You do not belong to this material world; You are the same person who brings about the cosmic manifestation simply by glancing over material nature.“
One may argue that the Supreme Personality of Godhead, who creates the whole cosmic manifestation simply by His glance, cannot come within the womb of Devakī, the wife of Vasudeva. To eradicate this argument, Vasudeva said, ”My dear Lord, it is not a very wonderful thing that You appear within the womb of Devakī because the creation was also made in that way. You were lying in the Causal Ocean as Mahā-Viṣṇu, and by Your breathing process, innumerable universes came into existence. Then You entered into each of the universes as Garbhodakaśāyī Viṣṇu. Then again You expanded Yourself as Kṣīrodakaśāyī Viṣṇu and entered into the hearts of all living entities and entered even within the atoms. Therefore Your entrance in the womb of Devakī is understandable in the same way. You appear to have entered, but You are simultaneously all-pervading.
We can understand Your entrance and nonentrance from material examples. The total material energy remains intact even after being divided into sixteen elements. The material body is nothing but the combination of the five gross elements–namely earth, water, fire, air and ether. Whenever there is a material body, it appears that such elements are newly created, but actually the elements are always existing outside of the body. Similarly, although You appear as a child in the womb of Devakī, You are also existing outside. You are always in Your abode, but still You can simultaneously expand Yourself into millions of forms.
“One has to understand Your appearance with great intelligence because the material energy is also emanating from You. You are the original source of the material energy, just as the sun is the source of the sunshine. The sunshine cannot cover the sun globe, nor can the material energy–being an emanation from You–cover You. You appear to be in the three modes of material energy, but actually the three modes of material energy cannot cover You. This is understood by the highly intellectual philosophers. In other words, although You appear to be within the material energy, You are never covered by it.”
We hear from the Vedic version that the Supreme Brahman exhibits His effulgence, and therefore everything becomes illuminated. We can understand from Brahma-saṁhitā that the brahmajyoti, or the Brahman effulgence, emanates from the body of the Supreme Lord. And from the Brahman effulgence, all creation takes place. It is further stated in the Bhagavad-gītā that the Lord is also the support of the Brahman effulgence. Originally He is the root cause of everything. But persons who are less intelligent think that when the Supreme Personality of Godhead comes within this material world, He accepts the material qualities. Such conclusions are not very mature, but are made by the less intelligent.
The Supreme Personality of Godhead is directly and indirectly existing everywhere; He is outside this material creation, and He is also within it. He is within this material creation not only as Garbhodakaśāyī Viṣṇu; He is also within the atom. Existence is due to His presence. Nothing can be separated from His existence. In the Vedic injunction we find that the Supreme Soul or the root cause of everything has to be searched out because nothing exists independent of the Supreme Soul. Therefore the material manifestation is also a transformation of His potency. Both inert matter and the living force–soul–are emanations from Him. Only the foolish conclude that when the Supreme Lord appears He accepts the conditions of matter. Even if He appears to have accepted the material body, He is still not subjected to any material condition. Kṛṣṇa has therefore appeared and defeated all imperfect conclusions about the appearance and disappearance of the Supreme Personality of Godhead.
“My Lord, Your appearance, existence and disappearance are beyond the influence of the material qualities. Because Your Lordship is the controller of everything and the resting place of the Supreme Brahman, there is nothing inconceivable or contradictory in You. As You have said, material nature works under Your superintendence. It is just like government officers working under the orders of the chief executive. The influence of subordinate activities cannot affect You. The Supreme Brahman and all phenomena are existing within You, and all the activities of material nature are controlled by Your Lordship.
”You are called śuklam. Śuklam, or ’whiteness’ is the symbolic representation of the Absolute Truth because it is unaffected by the material qualities. Lord Brahmā is called rakta, or red, because Brahmā represents the qualities of passion for creation. Darkness is entrusted to Lord Śiva because he annihilates the cosmos. The creation, annihilation and maintenance of this cosmic manifestation is conducted by Your potencies, yet You are always unaffected by those qualities. As confirmed in the Vedas, harir hi nirguṇaḥ sākṣāt: the Supreme Personality of Godhead is always free from all material qualities. It is also said that the qualities of passion and ignorance are nonexistent in the person of the Supreme Lord.
“My Lord, You are the supreme controller, the Personality of Godhead, the supreme great, maintaining the order of this cosmic manifestation. And in spite of Your being the supreme controller, You have so kindly appeared in my home. The purpose of Your appearance is to kill the followers of the demoniac rulers of the world who are in the dress of royal princes but are actually demons. I am sure that You will kill all of them and their followers and soldiers.
”I understand that You have appeared to kill the uncivilized Kaṁsa and his followers. But knowing that You were to appear to kill him and his followers, he has already killed so many of Your predecessors, elder brothers. Now he is simply awaiting the news of Your birth. As soon as he hears about it, he will immediately appear with all kinds of weapons to kill You.“
After this prayer of Vasudeva, Devakī, the mother of Kṛṣṇa, offered her prayers. She was very frightened because of her brother’s atrocities. Devakī said, ”My dear Lord, Your eternal forms, like Nārāyaṇa, Lord Rāma, Śeṣa, Varāha, Nṛsiṁha, Vāmana, Baladeva, and millions of similar incarnations emanating from Viṣṇu, are described in the Vedic literature as original. You are original because all Your forms as incarnations are outside of this material creation. Your form was existing before this cosmic manifestation was created. Your forms are eternal and all-pervading. They are self-effulgent, changeless and uncontaminated by the material qualities. Such eternal forms are ever-cognizant and full of bliss; they are situated in transcendental goodness and are always engaged in different pastimes. You are not limited to a particular form only; all such transcendental eternal forms are self-sufficient. I can understand that You are the Supreme Lord Viṣṇu.
“After many millions of years, when Lord Brahmā comes to the end of his life, the annihilation of the cosmic manifestation takes place. At that time the five elements–namely earth, water, fire, air and ether–enter into the mahat-tattva. The mahat-tattva again enters, by the force of time, into the non-manifested total material energy; the total material energy enters into the energetic pradhāna, and the pradhāna enters into You. Therefore after the annihilation of the whole cosmic manifestation, You alone remain with Your transcendental name, form, quality and paraphernalia.
”My Lord, I offer my respectful obeisances unto You because You are the director of the unmanifested total energy, and the ultimate reservoir of the material nature. My Lord, the whole cosmic manifestation is under the influence of time, beginning from the moment up to the duration of the year. All act under Your direction. You are the original director of everything and the reservoir of all potent energies.
“Therefore my Lord, I request You to save me from the cruel hands of the son of Ugrasena, Kaṁsa. I am praying to Your Lordship to please rescue me from this fearful condition because You are always ready to give protection to Your servitors.” The Lord has confirmed this statement in the Bhagavad-gītā by assuring Arjuna, “You may declare to the world, My devotee shall never be vanquished.”
While thus praying to the Lord for rescue, mother Devakī expressed her motherly affection: “I understand that this transcendental form is generally perceived in meditation by the great sages, but I am still afraid because as soon as Kaṁsa understands that You have appeared, he might harm You. So I request that for the time being You become invisible to our material eyes.” In other words, she requested the Lord to assume the form of an ordinary child. “My only cause of fear from my brother Kaṁsa is due to Your appearance. My Lord Madhusūdana, Kaṁsa may know that You are already born. Therefore I request You to conceal this four-armed form of Your Lordship which holds the four symbols of Viṣṇu–namely the conch shell, the disc, the club and the lotus flower. My dear Lord, at the end of the annihilation of the cosmic manifestation, You put the whole universe within Your abdomen; still by Your unalloyed mercy You have appeared in my womb. I am surprised that You imitate the activities of ordinary human beings just to please Your devotee.”
On hearing the prayers of Devakī, the Lord replied, “My dear mother, in the millennium of Svāyambhuva Manu, My father Vasudeva was living as one of the Prajāpatis, and his name at that time was Sutapā, and you were his wife named Pṛśni. At that time, when Lord Brahmā was desiring to increase the population, he requested you to generate offspring. You controlled your senses and performed severe austerities. By practicing the breathing exercise of the yoga system, both you and your husband could tolerate all the influences of the material laws: the rainy season, the onslaught of the wind, and the scorching heat of the sunshine. You also executed all religious principles.
“One has to understand Your appearance with great intelligence because the material energy is also emanating from You. You are the original source of the material energy, just as the sun is the source of the sunshine. The sunshine cannot cover the sun globe, nor can the material energy–being an emanation from You–cover You. You appear to be in the three modes of material energy, but actually the three modes of material energy cannot cover You. This is understood by the highly intellectual philosophers. In other words, although You appear to be within the material energy, You are never covered by it.”
We hear from the Vedic version that the Supreme Brahman exhibits His effulgence, and therefore everything becomes illuminated. We can understand from Brahma-saṁhitā that the brahmajyoti, or the Brahman effulgence, emanates from the body of the Supreme Lord. And from the Brahman effulgence, all creation takes place. It is further stated in the Bhagavad-gītā that the Lord is also the support of the Brahman effulgence. Originally He is the root cause of everything. But persons who are less intelligent think that when the Supreme Personality of Godhead comes within this material world, He accepts the material qualities. Such conclusions are not very mature, but are made by the less intelligent.
The Supreme Personality of Godhead is directly and indirectly existing everywhere; He is outside this material creation, and He is also within it. He is within this material creation not only as Garbhodakaśāyī Viṣṇu; He is also within the atom. Existence is due to His presence. Nothing can be separated from His existence. In the Vedic injunction we find that the Supreme Soul or the root cause of everything has to be searched out because nothing exists independent of the Supreme Soul. Therefore the material manifestation is also a transformation of His potency. Both inert matter and the living force–soul–are emanations from Him. Only the foolish conclude that when the Supreme Lord appears He accepts the conditions of matter. Even if He appears to have accepted the material body, He is still not subjected to any material condition. Kṛṣṇa has therefore appeared and defeated all imperfect conclusions about the appearance and disappearance of the Supreme Personality of Godhead.
“My Lord, Your appearance, existence and disappearance are beyond the influence of the material qualities. Because Your Lordship is the controller of everything and the resting place of the Supreme Brahman, there is nothing inconceivable or contradictory in You. As You have said, material nature works under Your superintendence. It is just like government officers working under the orders of the chief executive. The influence of subordinate activities cannot affect You. The Supreme Brahman and all phenomena are existing within You, and all the activities of material nature are controlled by Your Lordship.
”You are called śuklam. Śuklam, or ’whiteness’ is the symbolic representation of the Absolute Truth because it is unaffected by the material qualities. Lord Brahmā is called rakta, or red, because Brahmā represents the qualities of passion for creation. Darkness is entrusted to Lord Śiva because he annihilates the cosmos. The creation, annihilation and maintenance of this cosmic manifestation is conducted by Your potencies, yet You are always unaffected by those qualities. As confirmed in the Vedas, harir hi nirguṇaḥ sākṣāt: the Supreme Personality of Godhead is always free from all material qualities. It is also said that the qualities of passion and ignorance are nonexistent in the person of the Supreme Lord.
“My Lord, You are the supreme controller, the Personality of Godhead, the supreme great, maintaining the order of this cosmic manifestation. And in spite of Your being the supreme controller, You have so kindly appeared in my home. The purpose of Your appearance is to kill the followers of the demoniac rulers of the world who are in the dress of royal princes but are actually demons. I am sure that You will kill all of them and their followers and soldiers.
”I understand that You have appeared to kill the uncivilized Kaṁsa and his followers. But knowing that You were to appear to kill him and his followers, he has already killed so many of Your predecessors, elder brothers. Now he is simply awaiting the news of Your birth. As soon as he hears about it, he will immediately appear with all kinds of weapons to kill You.“
After this prayer of Vasudeva, Devakī, the mother of Kṛṣṇa, offered her prayers. She was very frightened because of her brother’s atrocities. Devakī said, ”My dear Lord, Your eternal forms, like Nārāyaṇa, Lord Rāma, Śeṣa, Varāha, Nṛsiṁha, Vāmana, Baladeva, and millions of similar incarnations emanating from Viṣṇu, are described in the Vedic literature as original. You are original because all Your forms as incarnations are outside of this material creation. Your form was existing before this cosmic manifestation was created. Your forms are eternal and all-pervading. They are self-effulgent, changeless and uncontaminated by the material qualities. Such eternal forms are ever-cognizant and full of bliss; they are situated in transcendental goodness and are always engaged in different pastimes. You are not limited to a particular form only; all such transcendental eternal forms are self-sufficient. I can understand that You are the Supreme Lord Viṣṇu.
“After many millions of years, when Lord Brahmā comes to the end of his life, the annihilation of the cosmic manifestation takes place. At that time the five elements–namely earth, water, fire, air and ether–enter into the mahat-tattva. The mahat-tattva again enters, by the force of time, into the non-manifested total material energy; the total material energy enters into the energetic pradhāna, and the pradhāna enters into You. Therefore after the annihilation of the whole cosmic manifestation, You alone remain with Your transcendental name, form, quality and paraphernalia.
”My Lord, I offer my respectful obeisances unto You because You are the director of the unmanifested total energy, and the ultimate reservoir of the material nature. My Lord, the whole cosmic manifestation is under the influence of time, beginning from the moment up to the duration of the year. All act under Your direction. You are the original director of everything and the reservoir of all potent energies.
“Therefore my Lord, I request You to save me from the cruel hands of the son of Ugrasena, Kaṁsa. I am praying to Your Lordship to please rescue me from this fearful condition because You are always ready to give protection to Your servitors.” The Lord has confirmed this statement in the Bhagavad-gītā by assuring Arjuna, “You may declare to the world, My devotee shall never be vanquished.”
While thus praying to the Lord for rescue, mother Devakī expressed her motherly affection: “I understand that this transcendental form is generally perceived in meditation by the great sages, but I am still afraid because as soon as Kaṁsa understands that You have appeared, he might harm You. So I request that for the time being You become invisible to our material eyes.” In other words, she requested the Lord to assume the form of an ordinary child. “My only cause of fear from my brother Kaṁsa is due to Your appearance. My Lord Madhusūdana, Kaṁsa may know that You are already born. Therefore I request You to conceal this four-armed form of Your Lordship which holds the four symbols of Viṣṇu–namely the conch shell, the disc, the club and the lotus flower. My dear Lord, at the end of the annihilation of the cosmic manifestation, You put the whole universe within Your abdomen; still by Your unalloyed mercy You have appeared in my womb. I am surprised that You imitate the activities of ordinary human beings just to please Your devotee.”
On hearing the prayers of Devakī, the Lord replied, “My dear mother, in the millennium of Svāyambhuva Manu, My father Vasudeva was living as one of the Prajāpatis, and his name at that time was Sutapā, and you were his wife named Pṛśni. At that time, when Lord Brahmā was desiring to increase the population, he requested you to generate offspring. You controlled your senses and performed severe austerities. By practicing the breathing exercise of the yoga system, both you and your husband could tolerate all the influences of the material laws: the rainy season, the onslaught of the wind, and the scorching heat of the sunshine. You also executed all religious principles.
In this way you were able to cleanse your heart and control the influence of material law. In executing your austerity, you used to eat only the leaves of the trees which fell to the ground. Then with steady mind and controlled sex drive, you worshiped Me, desiring some wonderful benediction from Me. Both of you practiced severe austerities for twelve thousand years, by the calculation of the demigods. During that time, your mind was always absorbed in Me. When you were executing devotional service and always thinking of Me within your heart, I was very much pleased with you. O sinless mother, your heart is therefore always pure. At that time also I appeared before you in this form just to fulfill your desire, and I asked you to ask whatever you desired. At that time you wished to have Me born as your son. Although you saw Me personally, instead of asking for your complete liberation from the material bondage, under the influence of My energy, you asked Me to become your son.”
In other words, the Lord selected His mother and father–namely Pṛśni and Sutapā–specifically to appear in the material world. Whenever the Lord comes as a human being, He must have someone as a mother and father, so He selected Pṛśni and Sutapā perpetually as His mother and father. And on account of this, both Pṛśni and Sutapā could not ask the Lord for liberation. Liberation is not so important as the transcendental loving service of the Lord. The Lord could have awarded Pṛśni and Sutapā immediate liberation, but He preferred to keep them within this material world for His different appearances, as will be explained in the following verses. On receiving the benediction from the Lord to become His father and mother, both Pṛśni and Sutapā returned from the activities of austerity and lived as husband and wife in order to beget a child who was the Supreme Lord Himself.
In due course of time Pṛśni became pregnant and gave birth to the child. The Lord spoke to Devakī and Vasudeva: “At that time My name was Pṛśnigarbha. In the next millennium also you took birth as Aditi and Kaśyapa, and I became your child of the name Upendra. At that time My form was just like a dwarf, and for this reason I was known as Vāmanadeva. I gave you the benediction that I would take birth as your son three times. The first time I was known as Pṛśnigarbha, born of Pṛśni and Sutapā, the next birth I was Upendra born of Aditi and Kaśyapa, and now for the third time I am born as Kṛṣṇa from you, Devakī and Vasudeva. I appeared in this Viṣṇu form just to convince you that I am the same Supreme Personality of Godhead again taken birth.
In other words, the Lord selected His mother and father–namely Pṛśni and Sutapā–specifically to appear in the material world. Whenever the Lord comes as a human being, He must have someone as a mother and father, so He selected Pṛśni and Sutapā perpetually as His mother and father. And on account of this, both Pṛśni and Sutapā could not ask the Lord for liberation. Liberation is not so important as the transcendental loving service of the Lord. The Lord could have awarded Pṛśni and Sutapā immediate liberation, but He preferred to keep them within this material world for His different appearances, as will be explained in the following verses. On receiving the benediction from the Lord to become His father and mother, both Pṛśni and Sutapā returned from the activities of austerity and lived as husband and wife in order to beget a child who was the Supreme Lord Himself.
In due course of time Pṛśni became pregnant and gave birth to the child. The Lord spoke to Devakī and Vasudeva: “At that time My name was Pṛśnigarbha. In the next millennium also you took birth as Aditi and Kaśyapa, and I became your child of the name Upendra. At that time My form was just like a dwarf, and for this reason I was known as Vāmanadeva. I gave you the benediction that I would take birth as your son three times. The first time I was known as Pṛśnigarbha, born of Pṛśni and Sutapā, the next birth I was Upendra born of Aditi and Kaśyapa, and now for the third time I am born as Kṛṣṇa from you, Devakī and Vasudeva. I appeared in this Viṣṇu form just to convince you that I am the same Supreme Personality of Godhead again taken birth.
I could have appeared just like an ordinary child, but in that way you would not believe that I, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, have taken birth in your womb. My dear father and mother, you have therefore raised Me many times as your child, with great affection and love, and I am therefore very pleased and obliged to you. And I assure you that this time you shall go back to home, back to Godhead, on account of your perfection in your mission. I know you are very concerned about Me and afraid of Kaṁsa. Therefore I order you to take Me immediately to Gokula and replace Me with the daughter who has just been born to Yaśodā.”
Having spoken thus in the presence of His father and mother, the Lord turned Himself into an ordinary child and remained silent.
Being ordered by the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Vasudeva attempted to take his son from the delivery room, and exactly at that time, a daughter was born of Nanda and Yaśodā. She was Yogamāyā, the internal potency of the Lord. By the influence of this internal potency, Yogamāyā, all the residents of Kaṁsa’s palace, especially the doorkeepers, were overwhelmed with deep sleep, and all the palace doors opened, although they were barred and shackled with iron chains. The night was very dark, but as soon as Vasudeva took Kṛṣṇa on his lap and went out, he could see everything just as in the sunlight.
In the Caitanya-caritāmṛta it is said that Kṛṣṇa is just like sunlight, and wherever there is Kṛṣṇa, the illusory energy, which is compared to darkness, cannot remain. When Vasudeva was carrying Kṛṣṇa, the darkness of the night disappeared. All the prison doors automatically opened. At the same time there was a thunder in the sky and severe rainfall. While Vasudeva was carrying his son Kṛṣṇa in the falling rain, Lord Śeṣa in the shape of a serpent spread His hood over the head of Vasudeva so that he would not be hampered by the rainfall. Vasudeva came onto the bank of the Yamunā and saw that the water of the Yamunā was roaring with waves and that the whole span was full of foam. Still, in that furious feature, the river gave passage to Vasudeva to cross, just as the great Indian Ocean gave a path to Lord Rāma when He was bridging over the gulf.
Having spoken thus in the presence of His father and mother, the Lord turned Himself into an ordinary child and remained silent.
Being ordered by the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Vasudeva attempted to take his son from the delivery room, and exactly at that time, a daughter was born of Nanda and Yaśodā. She was Yogamāyā, the internal potency of the Lord. By the influence of this internal potency, Yogamāyā, all the residents of Kaṁsa’s palace, especially the doorkeepers, were overwhelmed with deep sleep, and all the palace doors opened, although they were barred and shackled with iron chains. The night was very dark, but as soon as Vasudeva took Kṛṣṇa on his lap and went out, he could see everything just as in the sunlight.
In the Caitanya-caritāmṛta it is said that Kṛṣṇa is just like sunlight, and wherever there is Kṛṣṇa, the illusory energy, which is compared to darkness, cannot remain. When Vasudeva was carrying Kṛṣṇa, the darkness of the night disappeared. All the prison doors automatically opened. At the same time there was a thunder in the sky and severe rainfall. While Vasudeva was carrying his son Kṛṣṇa in the falling rain, Lord Śeṣa in the shape of a serpent spread His hood over the head of Vasudeva so that he would not be hampered by the rainfall. Vasudeva came onto the bank of the Yamunā and saw that the water of the Yamunā was roaring with waves and that the whole span was full of foam. Still, in that furious feature, the river gave passage to Vasudeva to cross, just as the great Indian Ocean gave a path to Lord Rāma when He was bridging over the gulf.
In this way Vasudeva crossed the river Yamunā. On the other side, he went to the place of Nanda Mahārāja situated in Gokula, where he saw that all the cowherd men were fast asleep. He took the opportunity of silently entering into the house of Yaśodā, and without difficulty he replaced his son, taking away the baby girl newly born in the house of Yaśodā. Then, after entering the house very silently and exchanging the boy with the girl, he again returned to the prison of Kaṁsa and silently put the girl on the lap of Devakī. He again clamped the shackles on himself so that Kaṁsa could not recognize that so many things had happened.
Mother Yaśodā understood that a child was born of her, but because she was very tired from the labor of childbirth, she was fast asleep. When she awoke, she could not remember whether she had given birth to a male or a female child.
Thus ends the Bhaktivedanta purport of the Third Chapter of Kṛṣṇa, “Birth of Lord Kṛṣṇa.”
Mother Yaśodā understood that a child was born of her, but because she was very tired from the labor of childbirth, she was fast asleep. When she awoke, she could not remember whether she had given birth to a male or a female child.
Thus ends the Bhaktivedanta purport of the Third Chapter of Kṛṣṇa, “Birth of Lord Kṛṣṇa.”
Thursday, August 22, 2019
Message to Gaurahari Follower
First of all, a lot of people have rejected ISKCON because its become a dried out cake, a mundane corporate operation. Cannot argue with that. And people need to find more nectar somewhere, also cannot argue with that. Unfortunately the Gaurahari process has gone a little too far over the edge for me, with the hugging, feet kissing, and so forth.
This is not something Srila Prabhupada would have wanted IMHO. I am more in favor of the process someone like Aindra was doing, getting everyone into kirtan using a more standard sadhana process. Unfortunately, that is also not being done hardly anywhere either. So I sympathize with the people who want to form another program, and I get the need for that totally, but I think we have to be careful about going too far into non-standard process.
And this "emotional" bhakti idea was going on all over Bengal in the time of Srila Bhaktivinode thakura and he lamented that the original standards were being lost. In sum, I am in favor of doing what Srila Prabhupada was himself implementing while he was present, and there is plenty of connection to that with available books, lectures, kirtans and etc. Of course the real test is to have people tasting Krishna, agreed, but in my opinion the people actually tasting Krishna would be very careful about their public displays of behaviors in order to represent Krishna to the devotees and public properly.
There were a lot of "ecstatic" programs in Bengal and Radha kund even when Srila Prabhupada was here, and he told us to avoid them. Anyway, I get it, too much dryness is already going on, but we have to be careful not to get too wet either .... ys pd
Wednesday, August 21, 2019
Flat Earth VS Globe Earth Discussion
PADA: Various devotees have been discussing this video, some giving giving the flat earth side of the argument, others giving the round earth / globe argument. I am putting it here because the presenter keeps asking for a working model of the flat earth process, and we have asked for the same. ys pd
Tuesday, August 20, 2019
HH Partha Sarathi Das Goswami has been admitted into hospital.
A TRUE SAINT …
Hare Kṛṣṇa, dear friends.
I have just been informed that HH Partha Sarathi Das Goswami has been admitted into hospital. The reason for his being admitted was explained by his personal assistant, HG Śrīdama Prabhu, as being that Mahārāja was suffering from extreme exhaustion and flu-like symptoms (for some weeks and also feeling that he might faint) and some tests needed to be done. Although these may be considered as not life-threatening ailments, the news struck my heart with great pain. You see, HH Partha Sarathi dāsa Gosvāmī is very, very special soul and a true saint…
He has given this life to his spiritual master, Śrīla Prabhupāda, and spends his every breathing moment trying to push forward the mission of his Guru Mahārāja, very effectively at that. He is respected by his God brothers and God sisters as being an exalted sadhu, knowing the philosophy and practicing whatever he preaches. The love between his God family and himself is very tangible to witness.
His talks about Kṛṣṇa and even the very manner in which he presents the Kṛṣṇa conscious philosophy to newcomers is very simple yet he transmits the essence of the teachings of the previous ācāryas very expertly. And yet, despite his obviously exalted character and his advancement in Bhakti, he still remains the most humble, approachable and loving Vaiṣṇava you will have the privilege to meet in your life. He IS a true saint…
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ISKCON guru’s confession
HH Partha-sarathi Das Goswami (“PSDG”), a GBC-elected guru hoaxer, has agreed with the above facts:
“Srila Prabhupada often quotes this verse, especially when addressing Indian audiences. The words “amara ajnaya” means “under My order” and “guru hana” means “becoming a spiritual master”. What type of guru is not specified because there is diksa-guru and siksa-guru. Srila Prabhupada writes, “It is best not to accept any disciples.” (Cc. Madhya 7.130, purport).
Based on this warning it could be assumed that the words “guru hana” means become a siksa-guru. In the first line of Cc. Madhya 7.128, Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu says whomever you meet; tell them about Krishna... this also refers to siksha. A doubt arose in my mind because Srila Prabhupada says, “it is best not to accept any disciples.”
How can I justify my actions in initiating disciples? One answer is that Srila Rupa Gosvami writes, “without accepting disciples you cannot increase the preaching mission.” Also Srila Gour Govinda Maharaja, who I accept as a “nitya-siddha maha-bhagavata”, gave diksa initiation to many disciples. The fact that the GBC have authorized it doesn’t necessarily make it right. With the greatest respect to the GBC, they have made mistakes in the past.”
(http://www.psdgoswami.com/joss56.htm, archived February 23rd, 2010)
[PADA: Yep, here we go, acharyas are defective beings who are falling down, cheating, engaging in sexual predator behaviors, doing things that ARE NOT RIGHT, and in sum they are making MISTAKES. Told ya!]
Another GBC-elected guru hoaxer, HH Bhakti Caitanya Swami (“BS”), states the following in regard to who would succeed Srila Prabhupada after his departure:
“Narayana Maharaja’s followers did their level best it seemed to convince ISKCON devotees that he is Srila Prabhupada’s successor, and therefore they should take shelter of him. I really can’t understand how they come to that conclusion, as I was present when Srila Prabhupada was here, and never heard Narayana Maharaja mentioned even once by Srila Prabhupada or any of his assistants, all of whom I knew quite well.
When Srila Prabhupada talked about the future of ISKCON and its leadership he said that his faithful disciples would lead after he had gone. For example there is the following conversation on November 2nd, 1977, 12 days before he left this world:
Prabhupada: (They asked) “…after you, who will take the leadership?” And (I told them) “Everyone will take, all my disciples. If you want, you can take also. (laughter) But if you follow. They are prepared to sacrifice everything, so they’ll take the leadership. I may, one, go away, but there will be hundreds, and they’ll preach.”
[PADA: There will be hundreds, ooops, nope there will be 11 and we will kick out the hundreds.
(http://www.caitanya.org/wordpress/?p=354, archived March 4th, 2010)
Yes, a lot of these gurus know for a fact that they were instructed "its best not to accept any disciples." For all sorts of reasons that is what we were ALL told. And one reason is -- that if we take the karma of others -- we will get sick, fall down, or both. A number of them died already. "Flu-like symptoms" is just the start of these reactions. Only a pure devotee can take the sins of others because he has brahmana - tejyas to burn off these sins, anyone else will have to be burdened with taking and keeping these sins, and keeping them for many future lives. And thus these false gurus will take these accumulated sins into their next life, guaranteed not to be pleasant as shastra explains over and over.
Sorry to have to point this out, but just now another "ex-ISKCON youth" wrote to say "I cannot wait for all of these so-called senior disciples of Srila Prabhupada to die. They are the most foolish and arrogant people burdening the planet. As long as they are here there is simply suffering, misery and trouble for others."
And as for "humble" -- how humble is this? "I am as good as Vyasa, and thus I need a Vyasa pooja."
Well Jeepers, how did people get the impression this is so bad? For starters this ex-youth writer is correct, it is MOST foolish to think that "I am as good as Jesus and I can absorb sins." At the same time, that is ALSO about as arrogant as it gets, "I am as good as Jesus, I can take disciples and absorb their sins." And moreover "I am as good as Vyasa." Foolish and arrogant combined, and we cannot argue that that is NOT correct. And who can argue that a lot of the senior devotees, and even many people like Narayan Maharaja, enabled and encouraged this mess?
Meanwhile, by taking karma they are SUFFERING THEMSELVES. Therefore, the victims their GBC guru party bans, beats, molests, sues or kills -- all have to suffer, and then these leaders of the regime also have to suffer from taking karma. EVERYONE suffers, thus its a burden for the earth, just as this ex-ISKCON youth has figured out already.
Yup! Its a giant burden for the earth, no kidding. And that is why, unfortunately, we have to agree with this ex-youth, these people are foolish, they are arrogant, and they are simply a burden on the earth. It looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, hey it is a process that is a BURDEN for the earth. Fact!
And moreover, they are making themselves suffer needlessly. In short, everyone suffers as a result of their process. As Satsvarupa eventually almost figured out after seeking medical treatments for his unlimited headaches, its not a medical issue and so there is no direct medical cure. Medical treatments cannot cure violating the orders of the Lord of the Universe, i.e. neophytes cannot absorb sins. Wow, and Partha Sarathi thinks Gaura Govinda is a pure devotee, because he is voted into the sex with taxi driver guru parampara in 1986?
Sheesh pilgrims! Anyone who is certified as pure when oral sex with taxi drivers in the holy dham is simultaneously certified as pure, is -- my guidance and inspiration? A GIANT BURDEN FOR THE EARTH. Correct!
ys pd
Yes, a lot of these gurus know for a fact that they were instructed "its best not to accept any disciples." For all sorts of reasons that is what we were ALL told. And one reason is -- that if we take the karma of others -- we will get sick, fall down, or both. A number of them died already. "Flu-like symptoms" is just the start of these reactions. Only a pure devotee can take the sins of others because he has brahmana - tejyas to burn off these sins, anyone else will have to be burdened with taking and keeping these sins, and keeping them for many future lives. And thus these false gurus will take these accumulated sins into their next life, guaranteed not to be pleasant as shastra explains over and over.
Sorry to have to point this out, but just now another "ex-ISKCON youth" wrote to say "I cannot wait for all of these so-called senior disciples of Srila Prabhupada to die. They are the most foolish and arrogant people burdening the planet. As long as they are here there is simply suffering, misery and trouble for others."
And as for "humble" -- how humble is this? "I am as good as Vyasa, and thus I need a Vyasa pooja."
Well Jeepers, how did people get the impression this is so bad? For starters this ex-youth writer is correct, it is MOST foolish to think that "I am as good as Jesus and I can absorb sins." At the same time, that is ALSO about as arrogant as it gets, "I am as good as Jesus, I can take disciples and absorb their sins." And moreover "I am as good as Vyasa." Foolish and arrogant combined, and we cannot argue that that is NOT correct. And who can argue that a lot of the senior devotees, and even many people like Narayan Maharaja, enabled and encouraged this mess?
Meanwhile, by taking karma they are SUFFERING THEMSELVES. Therefore, the victims their GBC guru party bans, beats, molests, sues or kills -- all have to suffer, and then these leaders of the regime also have to suffer from taking karma. EVERYONE suffers, thus its a burden for the earth, just as this ex-ISKCON youth has figured out already.
Yup! Its a giant burden for the earth, no kidding. And that is why, unfortunately, we have to agree with this ex-youth, these people are foolish, they are arrogant, and they are simply a burden on the earth. It looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, hey it is a process that is a BURDEN for the earth. Fact!
And moreover, they are making themselves suffer needlessly. In short, everyone suffers as a result of their process. As Satsvarupa eventually almost figured out after seeking medical treatments for his unlimited headaches, its not a medical issue and so there is no direct medical cure. Medical treatments cannot cure violating the orders of the Lord of the Universe, i.e. neophytes cannot absorb sins. Wow, and Partha Sarathi thinks Gaura Govinda is a pure devotee, because he is voted into the sex with taxi driver guru parampara in 1986?
Sheesh pilgrims! Anyone who is certified as pure when oral sex with taxi drivers in the holy dham is simultaneously certified as pure, is -- my guidance and inspiration? A GIANT BURDEN FOR THE EARTH. Correct!
ys pd
Monday, August 19, 2019
Bhakti Vikas Swami Follower VS PADA
A Bhakti Vikas Swami follower wrote to PADA @ angel108b@ yahoo.com
BVKS guy started out by saying our sites are all "offensive lies."
PADA: "OK got that already. Can we agree that Krishna does not want conditioned souls worshiped as His guru successors"?
BVKS guy says, "Of course Krishna does not want that! And that is what BVKS is teaching all the time and 'without change'"!
PADA: "Well fine, can you then explain -- why there are illicit sex with men, women and children deviants, drug addicts, alcoholics, wife stealers, porno swamis and /or assorted criminals in the BVKS guru parampara? How can Krishna be pleased when all these sorts of odious folks are being promoted in the BVKS guru program as Krishna's guru successors? If the goal is to please Krishna, how can we please Him by insulting His guru parampara as fallen, defective and criminal"?
BVKS guy: "This is all lies! BVKS never promotes this"!
PADA: "OK when I was five years old, the other five years olds would argue with me, 'you are a liar.' That was not a very convincing argument to me even when I was five. Everyone knows this is not any sort of rational counterpoint whatever, its all sentimentalism, emotionalism and fanaticism. Worse, you just agreed with me that I am speaking the truth, that Krishna does not want deviants to be worshiped as His successors. You are arguing with your own shadow."
BVKS guy: "BVKS is independent of the GBC, he does not agree with them."
PADA: "OK so why has he been saying the GBC folks are Krishna's appointed guru successors? And if Krishna did not appoint them, that means BVKS did"?
BVKS guy: "No, he does not say they were appointed now."
PADA: "OK so that means he agrees with us, they are not gurus, therefore he should make a public statement: that these people are not, were not, could not have been gurus."
BVKS guy: "BVKS does not have to do what you want."
PADA: "Right, its what Krishna wants, Krishna wants people to clear His parampara's name of deviants by declaring that this whole thing is wrong."
BVKS guy: "You should talk to him then."
PADA: "BVKS does not talk to us, he only talks to them."
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4 Year Old Boy Thinks He is Princess Diana Reincarnated (Sun UK)
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9517414/boy-claims-he-is-princess-diana/
Reincarnation
The first lesson of Bhagavad Gita as it is the eternity of the soul and the body is temporary.
"Never there was a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be"- B.G. 4.2
Krsna explains that we are eternal individuals. Our individuality existed in the past and our individuality will continue to exist in the future.
What happens at death.
Bhagavad Gita as it is explains in text 13 Chapter 2
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"As the embodied soul continually passes in this body, from boyhood, to you to old age, the soul similarly passes into another body at death. The self realized soul is not bewildered by such a change. "
Verse 18 describes the soul as indestructible, immesurable and eternal. The same verse tells that the material body is subject to destruction. The material body is perishable. But not the soul. When the body perishes then the soul continue to exist in another body.
The is no death for the soul. The soul does not take birth. It does not become old and it does not get diseases. This only applies to the material body. So when there ia death the soul moves on into Nlther body.
This is called reincarnation or the transmigration of the soul from one body to another.
Reincarnation
The first lesson of Bhagavad Gita as it is the eternity of the soul and the body is temporary.
"Never there was a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be"- B.G. 4.2
Krsna explains that we are eternal individuals. Our individuality existed in the past and our individuality will continue to exist in the future.
What happens at death.
Bhagavad Gita as it is explains in text 13 Chapter 2
.
"As the embodied soul continually passes in this body, from boyhood, to you to old age, the soul similarly passes into another body at death. The self realized soul is not bewildered by such a change. "
Verse 18 describes the soul as indestructible, immesurable and eternal. The same verse tells that the material body is subject to destruction. The material body is perishable. But not the soul. When the body perishes then the soul continue to exist in another body.
The is no death for the soul. The soul does not take birth. It does not become old and it does not get diseases. This only applies to the material body. So when there ia death the soul moves on into Nlther body.
This is called reincarnation or the transmigration of the soul from one body to another.
Russia Swat Team Raids "Krishna Drug Rehab Center" makes arrests
PADA: Yep, its the GBC "ultimate managers" doing their managing thing .... again. ys pd
All patients are free: in Vladivostok detained the head of the drug center "Rasvet".
Dmitry Kondratiev (ISKCON devotee) is accused of kidnapping and illegal imprisonment with violence.
Searches were held at the "Rasvet", drug rehabilitation center in Vladivostok, during which head Dmitry Kondratyev was detained. He is accused of kidnapping and illegal imprisonment with violence. The case is handled by the Investigation Department of the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation in the Primorsky Territory, reports IA PrimaMedia with reference to vl.ru.
Today, August 19, security officials rushed into the building of the "Rasvet", rehabilitation center in the suburbs of Vladivostok. The OMON (SWAT team), police and the FSB (Federal Security Service) Directorate for the Primorsky Territory once again carried out searches and this time detained the head of the drug rehabilitation center, Dmitry Kondratyev. The man is accused of kidnapping (clause 2 of article 126 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation) and illegal imprisonment (clause 2 of article 127 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation), all with the use of violence.
The drug rehabilitation center “Rasvet” is closed, all patients are released. Earlier, two patients died in the center, on the fact of the death of one of which a criminal case was initiated under Part 2 of Art. 238 of the Criminal Code (production, storage, transportation or sale of goods and products, performance of work or the provision of services that do not meet safety requirements).
Recall that earlier the employees of Roskomnadzor together with investigators intended to check the center where the patient died there in April. Before his death, the man was tied with adhesive tape and droppers were given to him with unknown contents. Then there was information about the death of another person there. The head of the "Rasvet", Dmitry Kondratyev, denies any involvement in tragic cases and assures that the center uses exclusively humane techniques.
In total, the victims wrote more than 30 statements to law enforcement agencies. One man ended up in City Clinical Hospital No. 2: he jumped from the third floor and broke his leg, only to escape from "Rasvet".
Searches were held at the "Rasvet", drug rehabilitation center in Vladivostok, during which head Dmitry Kondratyev was detained. He is accused of kidnapping and illegal imprisonment with violence. The case is handled by the Investigation Department of the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation in the Primorsky Territory, reports IA PrimaMedia with reference to vl.ru.
Today, August 19, security officials rushed into the building of the "Rasvet", rehabilitation center in the suburbs of Vladivostok. The OMON (SWAT team), police and the FSB (Federal Security Service) Directorate for the Primorsky Territory once again carried out searches and this time detained the head of the drug rehabilitation center, Dmitry Kondratyev. The man is accused of kidnapping (clause 2 of article 126 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation) and illegal imprisonment (clause 2 of article 127 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation), all with the use of violence.
The drug rehabilitation center “Rasvet” is closed, all patients are released. Earlier, two patients died in the center, on the fact of the death of one of which a criminal case was initiated under Part 2 of Art. 238 of the Criminal Code (production, storage, transportation or sale of goods and products, performance of work or the provision of services that do not meet safety requirements).
Recall that earlier the employees of Roskomnadzor together with investigators intended to check the center where the patient died there in April. Before his death, the man was tied with adhesive tape and droppers were given to him with unknown contents. Then there was information about the death of another person there. The head of the "Rasvet", Dmitry Kondratyev, denies any involvement in tragic cases and assures that the center uses exclusively humane techniques.
In total, the victims wrote more than 30 statements to law enforcement agencies. One man ended up in City Clinical Hospital No. 2: he jumped from the third floor and broke his leg, only to escape from "Rasvet".
Sunday, August 18, 2019
Mahavishnu Swami Melt Down Continues / Who is Following?
Trying out my next body already
PADA: Also looking at a long and complex discussion from Eastern Europe, on how people who are "following Krishna consciousness" (like Paramadvaiti swami / Mahavishnu swami / Gunagrahi swami / Satsvarupa swami etc.) cannot make much progress. Or worse, they may tend to even degrade to worse than karmis, so its not a religion that works. They think other yoga systems are maybe better. In other words, they are asking if Krishna consciousness has any value at all, since the leaders are failing and it seems a waste of time to follow something for 40 years if its not working. Or worse, one might end up being more degraded than the regular citizen after 40 years.
Of course this begs the question, "who is following the religion"? They are wondering: since Gunagrahi is chanting, he is a sannyasa, he is recognized as an advanced devotee, he is indeed a guru, then how come he is watching porno for 30 years? Good question!
So this is a big problem issue in itself. If the people who are "following" end up in a fall down tail spin, then why should any regular citizen bother even starting the process if the end result after 30 years is failure anyway? This is making people reject the religion wholesale. Srila Prabhupada says if a person imitates guru, he will eventually become degraded. They are confusing this bogus guru process with the actual process of a neophyte following the bona fide steps.
The only good news is, we are gradually seeing actually functioning programs of bona fide neophytes, and they are making progress individually and collectively with their programs. And more and more individuals are taking up interest in the Prabhupadanuga process. So this is a sort of like a little flower growing in the bombed out war zone. As one devotee said, sometimes we have to hit rock bottom before we can start moving upwards. True dat!
Thus, as more people are understanding gradually, it does not matter if one externally "follows" or not, because he WILL degrade if he tries to imitate the acharya, or he may also have problems if he simply promotes imitation of the acharya. Notice he WILL for sure degrade, not maybe. This was a side discussion on the Paramadvaiti issue with someone else, how could he degrade so badly? And that is the answer, anyone who imitates guru will eventually degrade. How bad? Maybe very.
This should not be confused with the process of bona fide neophytes following the bona fide process. In sum, if they are not following, and actually if they are imitating, then they are degrading more and more and more, ad infinitum. There is no way up as long as they continue to deviate.
If people are claiming to follow, but they are not following the basic tenets, in fact they are on track to degrade, then that is false advertising of the religion. We have the same problem with many so-called outside "fringies." A lot of them have been taking intoxicants, maybe even engaging in wife swapping etc. making them unable to be of a lot of use in either opposing the false gurus, and / or correcting things. They are shooting their arguments in the foot because even GBC people argue with us, yes but a lot of your "fringies" and "ritviks" pals are taking intoxicants and so on.
OK, what can we say? All right, to their credit various fringies are at least not promoting false gurus and they know Srila Prabhupada is the guru. But they need to step up to a higher standard if they want their preaching to be more effective. Its a problem even in the so-called reform program. Another case is Krishna Kanta who for example was criticized for being in India with his Hawaii shorts and t-shirt and no bead bag. OK that is not a good look for India and he should know that.
After Bhakta das tells me he "fu***d" his brains out with Thai bars girls; He is busted for selling millions of dollars of designer drugs; He is arrested for sex crimes in Puri; He supports the GBC / Gunagrahi porno swami program; He says we need to work with Gaura Govinda and others; He supports the Gaudiya Matha (ok evidently one of their gurus has naked little girls on his lap) then the Dayalu Nitai HKC Jaipur / Sanat / Mukunda / Prahlad clan say -- PADA is not following, and we need to be following the shiksha instructions of their new hero authority -- Bhakta das -- instead. Bhakta das does not even make a bona fide fringie, he supports the evil doer process. And he needs to be forwarded as our new authority for the ritviks? Or worse, Hari Sauri, Bhavananda's bucket boy?
Its really amazing to us what some devotees consider as "following"? Anyway a lot of even regular people on the street know who is following and who is not here, this is not rocket science! Even so-called KARMIS often tell me they can spot the clear fakes here!
Heh heh heh!
So there is the WRONG idea many people have of "following." And now the GBC has Bhakti Vidya Purna back in Australia lecturing. Wait, wasn't he supposed to be no longer a lecture authority because of his child beating issue?
So anyway, as long as people MISTAKE what is following, and what is not, this will go on for some time. The good news is, more people are seeing that these GBC guys are simply -- going more and more bonkers. So its SELF EVIDENT they are not following the proper process, and our Prabhupadanuga people and / or programs are starting to take off with more success, so its SELF EVIDENT these Prabhupada people are doing a better job of following. You will know them by their fruits! And now various Prabhupadanuga programs are getting ready for some nice festivals and so on, and they sent me some nice flyers and etc., so it is encouraging to see the RIGHT path being followed by some folks at least.
Anyway, yes, you are following the path that leads to a dinosaur body Maha Vishnu swami, we got that already! Hah hah!
ys pd]
Saturday, August 17, 2019
Rocana / Torben / Hanuman Croatia Non-existing Guru?
PADA: OK once again Torben Nielsen complains that there is "no shastra" that allows for people to worship a "departed acharya." Same idea of Hanuman Croatia / Rocana / Kailash etc. Yes, there is NOWHERE in shastra where it says we have to worship Krishna via His pure devotee!
Cannot find that ANYWHERE!
Right. We need to worship the current acharya aka the "living person" instead. OK sign me up! I am ready to go and offer my obeisances to the current living acharya! Lets do it! Oh oh! Big problem right out of the gate!
Hanuman Croatia / Rocana / Torben / Kailash forgot the name of their living guru already. Their alzheimer took over and they cannot remember who their guru is. My guru is, ahhh .... I fergits.
They thus cannot tell us their living guru's name, address, or location. They cannot show us a photo of their guru, or show us a book made by their guru, or show us a temple made by their guru, or show us a program made by their guru, or even -- one devotee made by their guru. OK we are supposed to worship, no one at all? This sounds quite MAYAVADA.
Some VRNDA program folks are saying we need to take down the photos of Paramadvaiti swami, and maybe switch that with the photo of Atulananda. Of course some people are upset with Atulananda for his previous support of the Paramadvaiti program despite so many complaints. Some are saying, maybe his photo needs to also be removed.
Hah hah, then they have no "current" guru photo at all?
Its obvious why these "non-guru" people never tell us who their guru is, because we already know the problems their gurus have been having. So now they are down to, well yes, we have a living guru, but we cannot tell you who he is, where he is, what he says, what he does, because -- ok because you already know this guy and his problems.
Yes, there is simply no instruction from Krishna to worship His pure devotee, its not in shastra. What does Krishna tell us instead? Worship no one at all! Of course! How did I miss that? Hee hee! ys pd
Cannot find that ANYWHERE!
Right. We need to worship the current acharya aka the "living person" instead. OK sign me up! I am ready to go and offer my obeisances to the current living acharya! Lets do it! Oh oh! Big problem right out of the gate!
Hanuman Croatia / Rocana / Torben / Kailash forgot the name of their living guru already. Their alzheimer took over and they cannot remember who their guru is. My guru is, ahhh .... I fergits.
They thus cannot tell us their living guru's name, address, or location. They cannot show us a photo of their guru, or show us a book made by their guru, or show us a temple made by their guru, or show us a program made by their guru, or even -- one devotee made by their guru. OK we are supposed to worship, no one at all? This sounds quite MAYAVADA.
Some VRNDA program folks are saying we need to take down the photos of Paramadvaiti swami, and maybe switch that with the photo of Atulananda. Of course some people are upset with Atulananda for his previous support of the Paramadvaiti program despite so many complaints. Some are saying, maybe his photo needs to also be removed.
Hah hah, then they have no "current" guru photo at all?
Its obvious why these "non-guru" people never tell us who their guru is, because we already know the problems their gurus have been having. So now they are down to, well yes, we have a living guru, but we cannot tell you who he is, where he is, what he says, what he does, because -- ok because you already know this guy and his problems.
Yes, there is simply no instruction from Krishna to worship His pure devotee, its not in shastra. What does Krishna tell us instead? Worship no one at all! Of course! How did I miss that? Hee hee! ys pd
Friday, August 16, 2019
Sravananda's Departure + Last Wish
From: Graham M. Schweig (Garuda Das)
Sravanananda ji left this world, after 50 some years of devotional service, last night, on Balarama Jayanti. All glories to Srila Prabhupada’s most loving and dedicated servants.
Daso ‘smi premni,
Garuda Das
Sravanananda ji's last words were to me were about preserving Srila Prabhupada’s vāni. Sravanananda ji called me and said, “I’m dying, Garuda. I’m ready to go, but I just wanted to thank you so much for your valuable work preserving Srila Prabhupada’s books. Blood is coming out of my mouth and they’re taking me away . . .”
I said to him, “I love you, Srav. Krishna is taking care of you.”
While blood was beginning to flow from Sravanananda’s mouth, he managed to thank me for all that I’m doing to preserve Prabhupada’s books. This is the only thing on his mind while he’s suffering the effects of tumors bursting in his body.
I’m sorry for the upsetting imagery, but when I see a devotee such as Sravanananda ji using his last breaths to reach out to me right before he becomes completely incapacitated, holding on to the hopes that one day Srila Prabhupada’s books will be respected and preserved according to his instructions, for me it only sharpens how important this exigent matter is and how Srila Prabhupada speaks through the hearts of devotees, even in their last words.
I’m sorry for the upsetting imagery, but when I see a devotee such as Sravanananda ji using his last breaths to reach out to me right before he becomes completely incapacitated, holding on to the hopes that one day Srila Prabhupada’s books will be respected and preserved according to his instructions, for me it only sharpens how important this exigent matter is and how Srila Prabhupada speaks through the hearts of devotees, even in their last words.
Sravanananda ji left this world, after 50 some years of devotional service, last night, on Balarama Jayanti. All glories to Srila Prabhupada’s most loving and dedicated servants.
Daso ‘smi premni,
Garuda Das
[PADA: Wow that is powerful testimony. It means that preserving the books is the only issue some folks think about. Very nice. We are glad to be on the right side of this history. Changing the books is "worse than any other crime the GBC has done" say some folks to us. Agreed. At the same time, its self evident that the changed books are causing a lot of grief and suffering to the dedicated servants of Srila Prabhupada. For that reason alone the GBC should clear a path for those who want to see the originals. ys pd]
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