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Thursday, December 13, 2012

http://www.dandavats.com/?p=11092

PADA: This is in my opinion, not normal, that so many nice vaishnavas are getting TERMINAL illnesses at younger ages, in this case the daughter of a senior devotee who is still living. Also notice that there are no funds to care for this younger woman and the father is thus going bankrupt caring for the daughter, meanwhile the GBC spends $15,000,000 on lawyers suing Bangalore temple. ys pd

Download Lectures From Bangalore devotees!

https://www.iskconbangalore.org/Lectures

Without qualified guru, its all bogus (HDG Lecture)

[PADA: Thanks Dhamaghosa dasa for sending this nectar.]

761101SB.VRN Lectures

Srila Prabhupada: So for that, there are so many practices, regulative principles,mentioned here. The first thing is hamse gurau mayi bhaktyanuvrtya.This is religion. Adau gurvasrayam. If you do not get a qualified guru, then everything is bogus.

If you, by good fortune, if you get the association of a guru, qualified hamsa, paramahamsa ... Paramahamsa guru means sannyasi's last stage is paramahamsa. Kuticaka, bahudaka,parivrajakacarya, and paramahamsa, these are the different stages. When one takes sannyasa, he lives outside the village in a kuti, in a cottage, and the family members goes and delivers him the food, because he is not practiced.

So in the beginning, he keeps up this association of neighborhood or family, but he is not practiced. He therefore lives outside the village, and if somebody gives some food, he eats. Then when he becomes experienced, then he does not accept food from one, either his own home or one home. He takes foodstuff from many homes: "Give me a little piece of capati." So somebody gives half, because they are also not over burdened. If they have to deliver, so many sannyasis come, and sumptuous food, then how the grhastha will provide?

Therefore though ... They do not overburden. There may be other sannyasis, therefore little only. Madhupuri. The Gosvamis practiced this madhupuri in Vrndavana. They lived, but they would take little only from the house. This is called bahudaka. Then when he has practiced more, he travels all over the world, parivrajakacarya. And when he is fully experienced, then, in spiritual life and everything, then he is paramahamsa.

So one must find out a guru who is paramahamsa. Neither kuticaka, nor bahudaka, nor parivrajakacarya. Paramahamsa. So in the Caitanya-caritamrta also, Lord Caitanya says, guru-krsna-krpaya paya bhakti-lata-bija. This bhakti-lata-bija can be obtained through the mercy of guru and Krsna. Here Rsabhadeva, who is incarnation of Krsna, therefore He says mayi, hamse gurau mayi. You cannot jump over (to) Krsna. "Well, I know Krsna. I shall go to Krsna directly, without guru." There are many rascals, they say like that. No, that is not possible.

First of all guru, then Krsna. Hamse gurau mayi, bhaktyanuvrtya. So these are description, this is the beginning. If we actually practice the description of the prescription given in the sastra, then it will be possible that, as it is said, karmanubaddho drdha aslatheta. Then our strong desire to enjoy this material world in different way, that will be slackened. That is wanted.

Thank you very much.
Devotees: Jaya! (end)

Tulsi is the first Hindu in US Government House

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/tulsi-gabbard-is-the-first-hindu-to-be-elected-to-the-us-house-of-representatives-from-f-american-samoa/1/229450.html

Does Supersoul help His devotees?

Thanks prabhu, Right, the Supersoul knew I wanted a copy of the will, so He got it for me in 1985. He knew I wanted a copy of the appointment tape, so He got it for me also in 1985, He also knew I wanted a copy of the 1977 conversations transcripts, so He got them for me in 1990. In the transcripts it said "conversation about poison in Hindi," but there was no transcript. So I prayed, I really need a copy of the tape of this "poison" conversation. And in 1997 my prayer was answered, I got the copy. So I wanted all these things, and they fell into my hands one by one, so you are quite correct: Supersoul certainly provides for the jiva. That is is the correct idea. I have a friend at work, he always wanted a Corvette, and now he has one, so this is always the case, Supersoul provides what we jivas desire. God provides what we desire via the Supersoul. He is there, no question, because there is no other way I would have gained access to all these materials without His divine intervention, never mind I would not be alive without His divine intervention. He is there, and all this has magnified my faith in HDG and Krishna many times over, man proposes, God disposes. That is what HDG says all the time, and he is right. Meanwhile another group is always out there trying to challenge my presentation of HDG's documents, and basically they want to subvert, alter, attack, ban, check, harass, nullify, and totally stop me, and maybe even have me murdered, and in sum take me down, and there is only one reason they have not been able to stop and check me, the Supersoul has, without question, protected me, there is no doubt in my mind that is the case. And so now that we have presented all these "hidden" documents of HDG, it is up to a group of his sincere followers to agree to those documents, and that is occuring as we speak. So that is also the mercy of the Supersoul. ys pd

Wednesday, December 12, 2012

Prabhupadanuga Upcoming Festivals

We are happy to announce ISKCON INC festival schedule for the next one year. Those Prabhupadanuga interested in attending these festivals can write to me email: gaurangasundardasa@gmail.com

UPCOMING FESTIVALS

CHINA FESTIVAL :1ST Jan - 7TH Jan

EUROPEAN FESTIVAL: 27th March to April 1st
Location:Frankfurt City,Germany.
Host :Mathias Sabji prabhu

UNITED KINGDOM FESTIVAL: APRIL
Location: London City.
Host : Nimai Nitay Das, Prahlad Das and Chandra Shaker prabhu

CANADA FESTIVAL:AUGUST
Location:Prince Edward Island
Host: Gaura Nitai Das and Lala Gopala Devi

SOUTH AMERICAN FESTIVAL:SEPTEMBER
Location: Rio de Janeiro
Host: Sugriva Dasa ,Nanda Maharaj Dasa and Dhanurdhara Dasa

NORTH EAST USA FESTIVAL : OCTOBER
Location: NEW YORK

HOST:ISKCON Long Island temple

UPCOMING TOUR

Prabhupadanuga pilgrimage tour to India in Feb/March

Your servant
Gaurangasundar Dasa
(ISKCON inc communication director )

What type of gurus are we?

Prabhu, Generally a still-conditioned person can act as a TYPE of guru, sometimes called a shiksha guru, vartma pradarsaka guru, or simply a layman preacher and so on. In the mid-1970s, one of our best preachers in England was a devotee with a drug problem. He would make several devotees every six months and he would be totally fired up and yell at us to get up for mangala arotike etc., then he would bloop and fall back to drugs, then come back and start the cycle again, he even made ten devotees in one week end by converting a hippie house. So, he was what we would call, a person who can show the path, but he may not be situated well on the path himself. This is probably what most of us can do at the moment, show the path, while we are a bit shaky on the path itself. ys pd

Tuesday, December 11, 2012

Female Diksha gurus by Sudarshana Narasimha das

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Female Diksha Gurus (FDG) the Tip of the Iceberg

BY: SUDARSHANA NARASIMHA DAS

We are having at the moment the discussion about female diksha gurus, in short, "The FDG Issue". This issue seems very essential for the future of ISKCON and also for the perceptive on how ISKCON devotees will perceive Srila Prabhupada's teachings.

But to understand this issue better we have to go a little into the history of ISKCON. Did ISKCON have some actions which were not approved by Srila Prabhupada and created havoc in ISKCON? Yes, there were some issues. We should but look at those with cool mind and without the desire to criticise. Starting with the problem which the ISKCON leaders had by not following Srila Prabhupada's instructions not to mix with His Godbrothers.

As some devotees felt that after Srila Prabhupada's disappearance there was some vacuum, they approached some of His Godbrothers who were spiritually advanced, but had different vision than Srila Prabhupada. This action was also inspired as some new young acaryas who were very eager to show their supremacy, but due to pride, developed anarthas and didn't behave properly.

[PD: This misses the original root point: There were no "young acharyas" ever, because Srila Prabhupada did not appoint any. The author is not making that clear, either that or -- he does not understand the issue, i.e. there was no guru appointment. Q: Who authorized the "young acharyas" program in the first place? A: No one, they self-appointed themselves. The author does not clarify that. And if the original ISKCON leaders were never appointed as gurus, how could they "appoint" more gurus? Hence, whether they are appointing male or female gurus, this should not be the issue, the real issue is, how can bogus people appoint ANY acharyas?]

*** So some of these devotees were sincere and just wanted some senior Vaishnava instructions and clarifications.

[PD: If these ISKCON leaders were so "sincere," why did they lie that they had been "appointed as gurus"? And since they were specifically ordered to NOT visit with the Gaudiya Matha, why would they be "sincere" to go there? None of this rates as "sincere."]

*** As the vision of these advanced Vaishnavas technically was a bit different this then created offences and falldowns on one side, leaving senior members to take shelter of these Godbrothers on the other.

[PD: If these "Gaudiya Matha God brothers" were so advanced, why did they support a homosexual guru program in 1936? And why did they support and even worse homosexual and pedophile guru program after 1977? Why is "The support of deviants posing as acharyas" -- an advanced concept? Even the cannibal witch doctors or tribal aborigine priests do not support the worship of deviants as their worshiped gurus. Why? Because they are more advanced, they know -- this is a bogus idea.]

*** Then the Gaudiya Matha issue and reinitiation issue was inaugurated at a more broad scale. It was but already existing in Srila Prabhupada's times.

[PD: Yes, the Gaudiya Matha's folks were already "re-initiating" Srila Prabhupada's devotees while he was here in the late 1960s, why would they stop doing that after he disappeared physically? If the God brothers were deviating all along since 1936, why would they magically stop deviating in 1978?]

*** Second issue that happened was the Zonal Acarya "higher elite" phenomena.

[PD: OK, except there is no such thing as a "zonal acharya" who has a managerial "zone"? This process is another concoction layered upon previous concoctions.]

*** Certain Srila Prabhupada disciples assumed a role which crossed over Vaishnava etiquette on how to behave with God brothers.

[PD: OK, so how can we say there were sincere when they were orchestrating the banning, beating and assassinations of the vaishnava God brothers? Again, this makes no sense, "Jack The Ripper was a sincere man," sorry, he was not.]

*** Those who didn't run over to Srila Prabhupada's Godbrothers started to worship them sometimes even above Srila Prabhupada, inspite of some of them having serious deviations.

[PD: OK, so if they are advanced vaishnavas, how could they simultaneously be engaged in serious deviations? This author sounds very confused.]

*** These "New Acaryas" inspired by glorification of disciples and Godbrothers swam in the ocean of "Indra's pride." They started to compete with Srila Prabhupada and devised different ways to enhance their spiritual bhava or external "spiritual" ecstasy, even with artificial substances.

[PD: Correct, some of these "gurus" were using "artificial substances," ok -- drugs like marijuana, LSD and so on -- which begs the question, why did people like Sridhara Maharaja continue to promote the GBC's bogus gurus like Jayatirtha, despite his knowing that Jayatirtha was having illicit sex and he was taking drugs?]

*** This after so many offences created fall downs of not only leaders, but whole yatras.

[PD: If whole yatras are being lost and destroyed, how were any of the people involved sincere? This includes: The deviating gurus; The entire GBC body which empowers and enables these bogus gurus; And the bogus Gaudiya Matha "advisors" who propped up these gurus? They all acted together to create this crisis.]

*** The third issue was the Gopi Bhava Club, not only started in Srila Prabhupada's time and dismissed, but survived in the minds of the same people who created a rebirth of the Gopi Bhava Club with the attempt to enthrone a New Higher Rasa Acarya who came to save ISKCON from the abyss of neophyte understanding which Srila Prabhupada was, according to this belief, giving to His followers till now.

[PD: Yes, this is quite a good point, the worship of the illicit sex acharyas program was being wrapped in the package of Narayana Maharaja's "rasika gopi club" of a sector of the GBC's gurus.]

*** Then only when serious offences were spoken on the side of the New Acarya that clearly minimized the position of Srila Prabhupada as The Founder Acarya did these enthusiastic promoters step back.

[PD: Not so sure people have stepped back? Mahanidhi and others like him are doing things like living in Radha Kunda, and are associated with various babajis, and they are still well respected in ISKCON.]

*** So then some devotees again left ISKCON to take shelter of this New Acarya, who built His empire first on these "ISKCON dropouts."

[PD: Right, ISKCON was "spawning its own competition" by creating this Gaudiya Matha "guru siphoning" out cropping.]

*** But the Gopi Bhava mood still burned in the hearts of enthusiastic preachers that looked for instant "Bhava teleportation". They failed to realize that Srila Prabhupada gave everything.

[PD: The entire GBC failed, they were the ones promoting these "rasika" acharyas from the Gaudiya Matha.]

*** This new Radha Kunda tourist group inspired many devotees to leave ISKCON, and they even wrote books about how one should not "TAKE SIKSA OUTSIDE ISKCON."

[PD: Yep, everyone should leave ISKCON and take shiksha from the rasika acharyas, yes, that is exactly what was being preached by the leaders of ISKCON and still is in some sectors.]

*** They themselves, "as considered above rules and regulations", continued with the visits of "higher rasa Gurujis" alone or even with their disciples. Even when they were disappointed at the fact that the disciples are leaving them, they didn't stop promoting their ideas, but nowadays with the difference of being themselves the "Higher Rasa Gurus" and manifesting "Vrindavan" in the West. So not only Gopis start to manifest, but the Dham also. The new ISKCON Rasa Acarya who is keeping ISKCON devotees in ISKCON was born.

[PD: Right, in order to compete with the rasika acharyas, some of the GBC's gurus began to essentially say they too were rasika acharyas (like Mahanidhi swami).]

*** The fourth issue is the "Academic Approach Issue". It is not that all that is going on in ISKCON about preaching on the Academic level will be discussed here. We have many sincere and qualified devotees. Some certain devotees, who are now also members of the FDG candidates group, developed at some stage doubt about Srila Prabhupada's books and not only this, but preached their doubts and are still doing so. That makes the Academic Issue a serious threat to the teachings of Srila Prabhupada.

[PD: Right, the collegial scholar section headed by Hrdayananda said we need to re-write Srila Prabhupada's "sexist" books.]

*** Devotees under the Academic Approach influence try to analyse Srila Prabhupada's books on the basis of science, sociology, psychology, western culture, their own upbringing and anarthas, etc., and put these material filters above the fact that Srila Prabhupada's books are beyond time and place.

[PD: Very nice!]

*** They believe some parts of the pure Srimad Bhagavatam, the incarnation of Krishna are mythological and just there to create fear and a sheepish following group.

[PD: Satsvarupa says he has to battle constantly with doubts that Krishna is a myth.]

*** They want us to believe that teachings which are unchanged from Brahma and Prahlada that now there is a 21st Century Bhakti yoga approach. Pure bhakti will be always the same. It doesn't have to be reformed or shaped to fit into the eyes of conditioned souls. Pure bhakti anyway will mix with the anarthas of those practicing to form multifarious approaches with tinges of karma, jnana, papa, etc. That doesn't have to be done already by the preachers to present a chewed down bhakti.

Srila Prabhupada preached pure bhakti, but he was understanding of the difficulties his disciples and followers faced. But in no way was he ready to shape the Bhakti Yoga teachings to make them feel better. This academic approach many times is mixed with feminism, western culture above Indian syndrome. One of the biggest deviations in this regard was the Dhira Govinda and his Guru followers, who also ended in serious offences to Srila Prabhupada on the part of Dhira Govinda Pr. All others are still somehow kept in moderation to not create too much of an uproar in ISKCON society.

The fifth issue is not the last one to appear. It was brought to life on one side by fallen ISKCON Gurus to justify their own mistake by showing that only Srila Prabhupada is perfect and all others are useless, so they could stay themselves even after falldown Gurus. On the other side, the critical devotees who themselves were looking for position, or disappointed devotees who saw the changes after Srila Prabhupada's disappearance and all the havoc and were looking for some solution.

This Rtvik issue approaches the problem of "Guru deviations and falldowns" not in a siddhantic, traditional way, but by allowing the free flow of the fertile Western mind, which is always looking for change and excitement.

[PADA: Well where is your example of the right approach then?]

*** Started by some fallen Srila Prabhupada sannyasis and gurus and frustrated devotees on the other, promoted by a non-practicing fellow and propagated by a few ambitious individuals. They claim that Srila Prabhupada is the Guru, but they are doing all the same as the paramparic Gurus with the addition not to give Srila Prabhupada credit that as a pure devotee he could make a single devotee qualified to be a Guru.

[PADA: No one ever said there could not be another pure devotee, we said you have not identified any. We also never said the sunken ship carrying Mayan gold does not exist, we said you cannot find it, so it is not relevant for now.]

*** The Sixth issue is the top of the ISKCON multivarious ideas that were inspired not only by the great example of Mother Jahnava, Hemalata Thakurani, etc., but also by a Western view on male-female roles, feminism, and frustration from "heavy sannyasis and brahmacaris" that were blowing fire of "I don't want to marry" out of their mouths. Suffering the chauvinism of all the ISKCON history, neglected by enthusiastic ambitious want to take sannyasa husbands, ISKCON frustrated children are looking now for the greener side of the pasture.

It seems that this FDG issue is neglecting the ideal behaviour of woman. Jahnava Ma was a diksha Guru, but she was always covered when giving lecture and only accepted visitors in private quarters, as told in Gaudiya Kathahar, etc. She was an exemplary wife, mother and she only took role of diksha Guru after Lord Nityananda's disappearance.

We fail to recognize the power of ISKCON marriage couples who could act as perfect example Gurus. The example of Kratu Pr. and wife is not mentioned in all the discussion. Maybe all have a bad feeling that such exemplary devotees exist. This is the future of ISKCON, not ambitious devotees who didn't do their proper duty in grihastha ashrama, taking to sannyasa and falling down or having subtle association with women. And also not frustrated mothers, single women looking for instant spiritual promotion. No one's mind changes by just the ritual of becoming a Guru.

All the sincere ISKCON devotees want to see a pure and bright ISKCON Society without all the deviant ideas on Srila Prabhupada's teachings. Those who have been influenced by such ideas should humbly submit their heads to the Lotus Feet of Srila Prabhupada, as Lord Brahma did after making his blunder. The great souls shouldn't feel that this will not fit their public figure and will lower their spiritual image. By accepting the shelter of Srila Prabhupada and reversing their errors, their glory will manifest in an unimaginable way.

Your servant,
Sudarshana Narasimha das

[PADA: Well this is a start. ys pd]

Bangalore court update

Negotiations / Peace proposal / Compromise between Iskcon Bangalore and Iskcon Mumbai fails. Back to the Courts awaiting court judgment.

Saturday, December 8, 2012

Gita and Bhagwatam dowload site

Poison issue books here for download

https://www.cx.com/mycx/share/dSCr_iN0EeKLmxIBOBql1A/5qKStUFxEeK14BICOA-R7w/2_MhgEFxEeKskBIFOBql1A/Srila%20Prabhupada.zip

[PS: Have not tried this, please let me know how this works out.]

1968 Teaching Of Lord Chaitanya dowload (PDF)

http://www.krishnapath.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Teachings-of-Lord-Chaitanya-1968.pdf

ISKCON "Seminar on being a guru"

Spiritual Leadership: Seminar on Being a Guru in ISKCON

By Prahladananda Swami for ISKCON News on 7 Dec 2012

A 4-day seminar will be held entitled as “Spiritual Leadership: Being a Guru in ISKCON,” this upcoming February 17-20, 2013 in Mayapura. It covers many pertinent topics, including:

Role and Identity of the Guru in ISKCON
Principles of Spiritual/Guru Leadership
Relationship with the ISKCON Institution
Guru-Management Dynamics
Guru-Disciple Relationship
Care of Disciples
Pastoral Skills
Spiritual Health
Peer Association

The Guru Seminar is highly interactive and provides opportunities to share realizations with fellow senior Vaishnavas. It was organized by the GBC Guru Services Committee with the direct input of senior leaders including Bhakti Charu Swami, Jayapataka Swami, Radhanatha Swami, Ravindra Svarupa Das and other senior devotees and educators.

Per ISKCON Law this Seminar is mandatory for devotees who take up the service of diksha guru. The GBC also “highly recommends” it for siksa gurus, senior managers and other ISKCON leaders.

The Guru Seminar will be offered once in 2013, at Mayapura from February 17-20. Timings will be 10 am to 1 pm, and 3 pm to 6 pm daily. The Seminar is open to ISKCON gurus (diksa and siksa), sanyasis, regional directors, temple presidents and other senior leaders who have at least ten years of active service in ISKCON. (References may be required.)

To register please email Padmanayana prabhu the administrator of the Mayapura Institute at padmanayana@gmail.com and copy Prahladananda Swami at Prahladananda.Swami@pamho.net.

Read more:http://news.iskcon.com/node/4790#ixzz2ETtGhgLM

Prabhupadanugas Moscow

http://prabhupadanugas.blogspot.in/2012/12/iskcon-inc-house-program-in-moscow.html

Photos of land donated in Russia

http://prabhupadanugas.blogspot.com/2012/12/land-donated-to-iskcon-inc.html

Friday, December 7, 2012

Sample of PADA videos (update) 12/07/12

01) Appointment tape imbroglio: http://youtu.be/D_ogsiUTOa8

02) The ISKCON Reform Movement (IRM) http://youtu.be/AQgs5uRifpo

03) Narayan Maharaja's monkey messiahs http://youtu.be/Wd2cIJc8Mxo

04) Meeting with Narayana Maharaja: http://youtu.be/4Ghy8SkMydo

05) San Francisco Rathayatra 2012: http://youtu.be/UXpseRyaog0

06) ISKCON early history 1972: http://youtu.be/YqCFMHLisBI

07) ISKCON early history in India #2: http://youtu.be/xx8Lr-mNuOg

08) Puranjan joins ISKCON (1970) http://youtu.be/WUx6gdpmx0k

09) Bhakti Vikas swami "OneISKCON": http://youtu.be/W0EJHn-VT_0

10) Tripurari swami reviewed: http://youtu.be/d4veWNU-UVU

11) ISKCON gurus future births revealed! http://youtu.be/WVmkCaA3HZs

12) Radhanatha swami, saint or sinner? http://youtu.be/ZoaeBdCaQ8I

13) Bogus ISKCON's madmen gurus: http://youtu.be/9BsVeq4NZSU

14) Gaura Govinda maharaja's false teachings: http://youtu.be/YPJkh2uiOw0

15) Radhanatha's bogus Jesus, Kirtanananda: http://youtu.be/MkRNHUxr464