It is a credit to your reporter Smita Mitra to have presented both sides of the argument for all to see openly on http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?281089
Mumbai ISKCON folks are more like Duryodhana and company.
Only a gullible person would believe in the statement by Dayarama Dasa:
“Dayaram Dasa says Madhu Pandit and co should have sued the governing body, not the Mumbai branch. “I am also against these corrupt gurus and the way ISKCON is being affected by it all. But it’s an internal matter and should be resolved internally. Pandit has dragged it out into the open only as an excuse to usurp the property in Bangalore...which actually belongs to Mumbai,”
To begin with, let us just examine this one statement in its point for point analysis alone:
Dayarama dasa claims “I am also against these corrupt gurus and the way ISKCON is being affected by it all.”
This is all verbal talk without any constructive action. The reality is: he has been forced to admit because of the sexual exploits and embezzlements of the criminal bogus gurus can NOT be kept hidden anymore from the public – it is all over the internet. How can anyone deny it!!! Why is he admitting these gurus are corrupt NOW? Where was he all this time? Many of us devotees who are outside have been exposing this years ago. He was in the midst of all this and he did not know?
So as a person who is representing power of authority in Mumbai branch why has Dayarama and company done *absolutely nothing* to remove ALL these gurus.
Anyone can say, “I am also against these corrupt gurus” just to prop up his position.
The ONLY sure-fix solution is to implement the Srila Prabhupada’s July 9th 1977 directive to have Ritviks ( representative priests) in their place.
If you are ACTUALLY against ALL these bogus gurus – replace them with Ritviks. But Dayarama and company do not want this. For them it is about holding on to money, power and positions. Some “devotees”! !! Devotees of what? Money.
On the contrary his Mumbai branch is working hand-in-glove to implement the bogus guru system with their mentally concocted governing body which incidentally is NOT as per “Direction of Management (1970)” that Srila Prabhupada personally set-up and also referred to over the years in his letters to the ISKCON Society confirm his very clear intentions of how he wanted the society managed.
Dayaram dasa states, “But it’s an internal matter and should be resolved internally”
This is another way of saying -as usual- nothing will be done as him and his hand-in-glove bogus governing body council want the matter to fizzle out as they want to be in power positions and grab the Bangalore property and squander whatever Madhupandit and his team has SUCCESSFULLY built-up over the years.
FACT: Dayarama and the bogus Governing Body Council have not even accomplished even 1% of what Madhupandit and Team has done. Simply - Judge by the result. Where is their accomplishment in terms of feeding Krishna prasadam to literally hundreds of thousands the poor neglected children of India? This alone speaks volumes. Acccepted Madhupandit has his faults but this “faults” override his capabilities in management. Moreover - Madhupandit and his team have done a superb management that has resulted in more temples/centers opening up all over the world - even recently. Where are Dayarama and companys accomplishment? Judge by actions not words.
Dayarama and company instead of being envious of Madhupandit and teams brilliant success should learn lesson in cooperation from him.
Dayarama further states of Madhupandit:
“… only as an excuse to usurp the property in Bangalore...which actually belongs to Mumbai,”
Dayarama speaks rubbish!
Since when? And where is Srila Prabhupada’s written authority on this centralization that Mumbai can centralize? The centers are to keep their independent identity and are not to be centralized. So HOW did Bangalore belong to Mumbai?
On the contrary, the letters Srila Prabhupada wrote to his disciples are against this bureaucracy/bureauCRAZY:
1967-02-11. Srila Prabhupada Letter to Kirtanananda
I wish that each and every Branch shall keep their independent identity and cooperate keeping the Acarya in the centre. On this principle we can open any number of Branches all over the world. The Ramakrishna mission works on this principle and thus as organization they have done wonderfully.
1972-12-22. Srila Prabhupada Letter to Karandhara
Regarding your points about taxation, corporate status, etc., I have heard from Jayatirtha you want to make big plan for centralization of management, taxes, monies, corporate status, bookkeeping, credit, like that. I do not at all approve of such plan. Do not centralize anything. Each temple must remain independent and self-sufficient. That was my plan from the very beginning, why you are thinking otherwise? Once before you wanted to do something centralizing with your GBC meeting, and if I did not interfere the whole thing would have been killed. Do not think in this way of big corporation, big credits, centralization--these are all nonsense proposals. Only thing I wanted was that books printing and distribution should be centralized, therefore I appointed you and Bali Mardan to do it. Otherwise, management, everything, should be done locally by local men. Accounts must be kept, things must be in order and lawfully done, but that should be each temple's concern, not yours. Krishna Consciousness Movement is for training men to be independently thoughtful and competent in all types of departments of knowledge and action, not for making bureaucracy. Once there is bureaucracy the whole thing will be spoiled. There must be always individual striving and work and responsibility, competitive spirit, not that one shall dominate and distribute benefits to the others and they do nothing but beg from you and you provide. No. Never mind there may be botheration to register each centre, take tax certificate each, become separate corporations in each state. That will train men how to do these things, and they shall develop reliability and responsibility, that is the point. I am little observing now, especially in your country, that our men are losing their enthusiasm for spreading on our programmes of Krishna Consciousness movement. Otherwise, why so many letters of problems are coming, dissatisfied? That is not a very good sign. The whole problem is they are not following the regulative principles, that I can detect. Without this, enthusiasm will be lacking. Even mechanically following, and if he gets gradually understanding from the class, he will come to the point of spontaneous enthusiasm. This spontaneous loving devotional service is not so easy matter, but if one simply sticks strictly to the rules and regulations, like rising early, chanting 16 rounds, chanting gayatri, keeping always clean--then his enthusiasm will grow more and more, and if there is also patience and determination, one day he will come to the platform of spontaneous devotion, then his life will be perfect. All of this I have told you in Nectar of Devotion. So I do not think the leaders are themselves following, nor they are seeing the others are following strictly. That must be rectified at once. Each centre remain independent, that's all right, but the president and other officers must themselves follow and see the others are following the regulative principles carefully, and giving them good instruction so they may understand nicely why this tapasya is necessary. And GBC and Sannyasis will travel and see the officers are doing this, and if they observe anything lowering of the standard, they must reform and advise, or if there is some discrepancy I shall remove it. Of course, if new men are coming, they may not be expected immediately to take to our regulative principles cent per cent. Therefore we should not be so anxious to induce them to live in the temple. Anyone who lives in the temple must agree to follow the rules and regulations without fail. So if some new man moves in with us he may become discouraged if he is forced in this way. Therefore let them live outside and become gradually convinced in the class why they should accept some austerity, then they will live with us out of their own accord and follow nicely everything. It is very difficult to give up very quickly so many bad habits as you have got in your country, so educate them gradually, first with chanting, and do not be so much anxious to count up so many numbers of new devotees, if such devotees go away later being too early forced. I want to see a few sincere devotees, not many false devotees or pretenders.
So my point is that the regulative principles must be followed by everyone. Otherwise their enthusiasm dwindles and they again think of sex and become restless, and so many problems are there. There is some symptom of missing the point. The point is to be engaged in doing something for Krishna, never mind what is that job, but being so engaged in doing something very much satisfying to the devotee that he remains always enthusiastic. He will automatically follow the regulative principles because they are part of his occupational duty--by applying them practically as his occupational duty, he realises the happy result of regulative principles. So the future of this Krishna Consciousness movement is very bright, so long the managers remain vigilant that 16 rounds are being chanted by everyone without fail, that they are all rising before four morning, attending mangal arati--our leaders shall be careful not to kill the spirit of enthusiastic service, which is individual and spontaneous and voluntary. They should try always to generate some atmosphere of fresh challenge to the devotees, so that they will agree enthusiastically to rise and meet it. That is the art of management: to draw out spontaneous loving spirit of sacrificing some energy for Krishna. But where are so many expert managers? All of us should become expert managers and preachers. We should not be very much after comforts and become complacent or self-contented. There must be always some tapasya, strictly observing the regulative principles--Krishna Consciousness movement must be always a challenge, a great achievement to be gained by voluntary desire to do it, and that will keep it healthy. So you big managers now try to train up more and more some competent preachers and managers like yourselves.Forget this centralizing and bureaucracy.
Any reader who wants to know further on the controversies of bogus gurus of ISKCON and the Hare Krishna philosophy the articles below will help:
WHEN I order
Become Guru by Order, That's All
What We Have Heard from the Spiritual Master, That is Living
Srila Prabhupada's Disciple
Brief History of Guru Hoax in ISKCON
Diksa Given to Madhyama-adhikari is Not a Formality
Ritvik - **Representative**
Ritvik System Is Bonafide
The rescuer must be liberated
He is not a liberated person
The Case for Blind Uttama Adhikaris
Jesus Christ Predicts Appearance of Srila Prabhupada
Srila Prabhupada in Absentia BY: KURMA DASA (NOT THE CHEF)
Satyam - Truthfulness
Mahajano yena gatah sa panthah
We Don't Allow Any Literature Not Given by Liberated Soul
Srila Prabhupada’s Godbrothers
Analysis of Srila Prabhupada’s Letter to Rupanuga
Was Sridhara Maharaja a bonafide guru?
Sridhara Maharaja - EXPOSED
Conditioned soul Sridhara Maharaja Vs Srila Prabhupada the Mahabhagavata
Exposing Gaudiya Math Twister: Sankarshana dasa (Bhakta Suria)
Mahesh Raja (UK)
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