Victory at last! Sorta / Living gurus and cats / Wolves is saffron 01 22 25

VICTORY AT LAST! OK SORTA ...

PADA: Sheesh pilgrims. We said all along that we cannot make ISKCON's children worship predators, illicit sex deviants, and intoxicated fools etc. as their acharyas -- or there would be very bad results. The astonishing thing is, we were clamoring about this issue right out of the gate, but it has taken just about forever for it to really take off. Now -- many more people are helping us expose all this corruption and abuse. Vindication, sort of.

Not complaining really, better late than never. Unfortunately, almost all the protesting is from people outside the official ISKCON, so the only way to fix the society internally is with external pressure and expose.  

Mahabhuja dasa said when he was in India molested children were coming to Calcutta temple, very traumatized and frightened. Perhaps they were both physically as well as mentally traumatized, after being molested by Bhavananda -- and others. OK that means he knew there was a problem, other people in Calcutta also (no doubt in my mind) knew, and no doubt a lot of other people knew as well, and so on and so forth. They knew, OK many knew, ISKCON's children are SUFFERING. 

But the people who knew -- were unwilling or unable to speak about it because, I dunno, they would lose their place in the mighty kingdom of pedophile messiah's loka? But they lost their place anyway, because the temples emptied out later. They did all of that cover up, and who benefits? OK the abusers and their network benefit, no one else. Certainly ISKCON and its children did not benefit. OK ISKCON has had to go bankrupted because of the collective "conspiracy of silence." 

And that is why people always ask me, how is it possible many other GBC leaders like Bhakti Vikas swami, Gaura Govinda maharaja, Basu Gosh, Lokanath and all sorts of others "did not know," when people like Mahabhuja and even PADA knew? Yeah, "who" knew what and when. And why aren't the main leaders of the molester messiah's program in Mayapura, like Jayapataka, Hari Sauri and others -- being removed for complicity, or at least incompetence?   

Yet it seems -- almost no one wanted to challenge the regime, including people like Mahabhuja, although he now says this CURRENT expose is a good thing. OK all sorts of people sat around and allowed all this to go on, and on, and on -- ad infinitum, without protesting. And that just enabled the whole process to spin out of control, which it has done. 

And that means when people say there has been "industrial levels of child abuse," we believe them. And I would argue, the people who acquiesced and enabled all that are complicit.

Yet I am happy now that the numbers of protesters has grown substantially, but I am not happy that so many children were victimized, traumatized, and essentially destroyed, and a number took their own lives -- or are not living now -- as a result of the trauma -- all so a few fools could sit on golden seat for a few years and be worshiped as emperors of the jagat. 

So it is a victory, we are gaining support, but the battlefield is covered with dead bodies, so it is like a bitter pill victory. Sure it is a victory -- but at what cost? We had to sell our souls to Satan to "go along to get along" with the molester messiah's program, and allow Satanic ritualistic child abuse to run rampant, and that means -- Satan owns our soul. And it will take a long time to purge the Satanic-ness out of ISKCON, maybe decades. That means the victory is not complete by any means, but it is a start. ys pd 

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THE LIVING GURU

PADA: Yep prabhu, that was my original protest with the GBC in 1979. I said a person like Jayatirtha who is: having affairs with female disciples (there was a photo); who is offering LSD to the shalgram; who is shouting and singing like an intoxicated drunk on the Vyasa; who says LSD is "Radha's feet dust" etc. is most likely -- NOT Krishna's successor. The gang of four gurus told me -- I have to accept that he is a guru because "he is living." OK well my neighbor's cat is also living, but the cat is most likely -- not -- God's successor. 

It is amazing that the standard for being Krishna's successor is "he is living." The good news is, they did offer to make me the guru of Ireland -- if I would help them support drunk and disorderly wife stealing stoner-pada. At least they tried to rope me into their camp, knowing I could become a thorn in their side if I left. I also said that there is a child mistreatment problem which will lead to lawsuits if not fixed. And they said so what, who cares, go ahead and take us to court. 

So I did, I had them sued for $3M in 1986, and again sued for $400M in 1999, and then they said -- why didn't you solve this internally? Because you guys ordered me to take you to court, and you booted me out and had me chased with bats. For his part Jayapataka, one of the gang of four, ran at me screaming in Los Angeles when he saw me sitting across from the temple. I thought he was going to sit his 400 lbs. self on me and my life would be over. 

But maharaja, I am just following your orders, and you ordered me to have you sued. Why are you upset that we followed your orders? 

Several ex-kids and even one adult took their lives when I was there, the victims just did not want to see the faces of these living messiahs one more day, they decamped from the planet. I honestly do not blame them. Sorry, my neighbor's cat is living, but he is not Krishna's successor just because he is living. Jayatirtha was later dis-membered due to his propensity for wife stealing. 

Jayatirtha told people he is a resident of Krishna loka, but he is now residing on one of the lowest lokas. And the gang of four gurus helped him get there because they enabled and encouraged this foolishness. ys pd

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WOLVES IN SAFFRON MOVIE SERIES REVIEW

SRD: Well done!

RRB: I am here for it. This is long overdue! Thank you to everyone who is working so hard to shed light on the evil these “devotees” who have inundated the movement with this.

JKD: Oooh this looks good. Glad they’re calling out the “big guys” now like (Radhanath, etc).

PD: Yep Rudder-less Maharaja sent enforcers from New Vrndavana to take out me and Sulochana. Sulochana was taken down, but then an ex-gurukuli girl saved my life by reporting "who" the enforcer was to the FBI. So they picked him up before I was gone too. The Berkeley police said to me -- this guy was walking around my truck taking down my licence number. So I was saved from being taken out too. I told the mother of that girl that I owe her my life, and I will always be in debt to her and her daughter. ys pd

TD: Thank the Lord, and those devotees, that you, and all that you knew and could expose, were saved. 

JJ: and RS was involved.

PD: Yep, Radhanath then arranged preferential treatment for Tirtha after he was arrested. They glorified Tirtha as "the best servant of Krishna from New Vrndavana." Radhanath arranged parikrama chanting around the prison etc. They were worried he would turn on them. But this was going on the whole time. Chakradari made an announcement at an istagosthi that Kirtananda was exploiting boys, and that was his end, and the real reason he had to be taken down. That is also the real reason they came after us, we were exposing this issue ... ys pd

PK: Whoa!

MD Dasi: Yeah!

GP: My hope is we the regular members - don't end up paying again for the crimes of perverts control freaks and their supporters who enacted the crimes.

SMV: Whoa!!!! About time people -- no matter who they are, are called out for abusing children in any what way.

SH: I did a Google search and and imbd search and cannot find any mention of this documentary... that's unusual even if its not finished... why is that.. surly something this important should have had some publicity and be known about somewhere on the internet..

DL: it's not available yet.

SH: I understand that but usually a documentary would be publicized before release.. I just worry after monkey on a stick amazing documentary but it is not widely available... for these documentary to do any good they need to be easily available to watch and need to be advertised everywhere. Time the world knows just what an evil cult iskcon is. Time that iskcon is known for the mass child abuse and the cover ups..

ND Dasi: legal issues

KJM: I appreciate your time, effort and commitment to this cause. Will you cover the child marriages which happened at New Vrindavan, which Radhanath Swami was also involved with? I have never heard it being addressed or accounted for publicly. Although several women have stated online that they were involved. Some of the girls, as young as 11, were married to adult men, in their 20s and 30s.

PD: Srila Prabhupada said we have to follow the local laws, and most states do not allow marriage until 18. He never said he wanted people to break the laws of the USA, or any other country.

PK: And that right there is where the deep systemic problem, cognitive dissonance lies. The kernel (as mentioned above) is safely guarded even by those trying to expose all the horrible child abuse.

SRD: Not in part one, hopefully on the next episodes.

PK: When is this coming out?

SRD: Part 1 is scheduled to be released very soon, in the next few days.

PK: amazing.

GPD: Nice one, love the title.

DD: Documentary series!!!

RD: I have to support this, because I'll always remember the frightened Gurukul Devotees who would come to kolkata, and claim abuse by Charles (Bhavananda) at that time he was an Iskcon Guru with Disciples, I can't remember his last name, actually i feel really bad for all those wonderful Devotees, Srila Prabhupad wanted Sridham Mayapur, to be the best Gurukul in the world, unfortunately Demoniac people went there to do abuse.

SRD: Bhavananda (Charles Bacis).

APD: Wow, it looks so professional and the filmography is captivating, even though the subject matter is obviously distressing. I'm so impressed by the courage and dignity of devotees who are speaking their truth.

VD: Excellent!!! Finally! 

DD: wow ----- I think this docuseries will give someone a headache.... if well publicized and shared it could really leave a mark.

BB: We will send it to everyone.

AWD: Still boils the blood.

MK Dasi: Thanks for your tireless and undaunted efforts!

DD: Trailer does not show on mobile, or is it just my connection?

LM Dasi: https://rumble.com/v74lb0s-wolves-in-saffron-trailer.html

Wolves in Saffron - Trailer

SRD: works for me.

SRJ: I had trouble playing it on my older model iPhone but it played fine on my laptop.

KS Dasi: Jay Nitai! This is awesome! When I saw Vedasara it brought tears to my eyes. His story and many others touch my heart deeply. Thank you so much to all of those who participated in this production. Amazing. Exposing them must be done. 

SGD: I feel the same about him. Really moving story.

TTK: BRAVO!!

AJ Dasi: Wow!!!!!

FLC: The title is spot on! I applaud everyone involved in this project. The bravery, strength and wisdom to take on and call out the evil that has been protected for far too long. Thank you!

DG: Intense!

YD: Just wow. Wonderful! Will it be available on YouTube or any other platforms plz?

SRD: Will be available on the website, we're still working out the details of which other platforms we can host it on.

RJD: There is no doubt in my mind that "systemic" is an apt term for encapsulating the core issue. "Systemic" is not a word to be used casually, or only understood to a point where one's moral compass starts to clash with the cognitive dissonance. Systemic means it goes all the way to the kernel.

L 08: So far it's most brave, heavy hitting investigative journalism / whistleblowing type work. Yours and everyone involved bravery integrity is admirable. But most of all it is the loss of faith and devotion of people subjected to all that from hands of so called Vaisnavas. But I am affarid for your safety after this. 

Danny's being watched - London Spy: Episode 2 Preview - BBC

RF Dasi: OMG, very excited! SRD, you did it!!! 

KKD: Justified anger put into action. Overdue.

AP: The only language they understand .... or do / will they?! I wonder how much money they will spend trying to get this down?

SVD: Radhanath swami already looks like a demon.

SHD: I agree no way I would want to be anywhere near him...

SRJ: I like how this documentary presents strong factual evidence that is compelling and impossible to ignore.

BW: Hard hitting, gripping cinematography. This is going to cause some major ripples in lake Iskcon and hopefully the entire community will wake up and flip the script on the recent rollback of child protection efforts. One scene I clearly remember, when Badrinarayan paraded Dhanudhar around from place to place trying earnestly to get us Vrindavan Gurukula alumni to summarily forgive him. Dhanudhara wasn’t actually sorry at all, there was no real penitence or compensation proposed and it was fake. The duo hit up Laguna Beach where I’m at prior to the scene depicted in the trailer. 

SRD: To date I have never perceived any genuine contrition from Dhanurdhara for the devastating suffering he caused to so many devotee children.

SKD: We tried to warn the GBC.... Their inaction only brings more desperate public release of information like this. They have saved neither their buddies nor themselves nor the Society by their failure to take decisive action. They've done the opposite of what should have been done.

Outside condemnation will cause grievous harm to the organization, greatly hindering preaching. Even there is risk of vilification of the Founder-Acharya.

GBC has created a situation where, for their own survival, any temples without culpability may have to deny any relationship with that organization or its members. They should obtain legal advice.

GBC members: YOU did this!

SRD: I'm always amazed at how few people seem to be able to grasp this simple concept.

JS: Prabhupada’s own disciples like Jaya Advaita swami and others are vilifying Prabhupada. That’s how mad the GBC has become.

GPD: They have now organized the temples management structure as non profit LTD company's in an atempt to avoid personal liability, Understanding Limited Liability for Non-Profit Charities in the UK.

Definition of Limited Liability

Limited liability is a legal principle that protects the personal assets of the owners or members of a charity. It means that if the charity incurs debts or faces legal action, the financial responsibility of its members is limited to the amount they have invested or guaranteed. This protection encourages individuals to participate in charitable activities without risking their personal finances.

Types of Charities with Limited Liability

In the UK, non-profit organizations can be structured in different ways, each offering limited liability:

Type of Charity Description

Company Limited by Guarantee Owned by guarantors who agree to pay a fixed amount if the charity cannot meet its debts.

Charitable Incorporated Organisation (CIO) A legal form specifically for charities that provides limited liability and is registered with the Charity Commission.

Community Interest Company (CIC) A type of non-profit that can operate for the benefit of the community while offering limited liability.

Implications of Limited Liability

Protection of Personal Assets: Members are not personally liable for the charity's debts beyond their initial investment or guarantee.

Encouragement of Participation: Limited liability makes it easier for individuals to become involved in charitable work, knowing their personal finances are protected.

Legal Entity Status: Charities with limited liability are recognized as separate legal entities, which means they can own property, enter contracts, and be sued independently of their members.

Understanding limited liability is crucial for anyone involved in setting up or managing a non-profit charity in the UK, as it shapes the financial and legal responsibilities of the organization.

VW Dasi: Thank you so much for all of your hard work bringing this to light. It's about time.

DSD: hhhm only the first few seconds has video, then the video glitches for the rest of the trailer, the audio is there throughout. I tried viewing on different days and from different links. I'll try another browser.

LM: it will work here

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L 08: May be time for reminder to everyone benevolent on these threads to start praying for protection of these brave whistleblowers.They are going to need it soon. This new chapter in ISKCON 's whistleblowing-few survivors daring to whistleblow at such beloved high target and this openly , that never happened before on this scale.

Just when current GBC and ISKCON 's whole system, whole body brcoming increasingly compromised by child-abuse disease. Scary thought, but it wouldn't be surprising if they react like animal sick with rabies. There has been too many years and to heavy of infiltration by pedos, it all starting to appear as terminal.

This new chapter will be scariest to watch so far. It feels like getting chance to see handful of brave ones daring to talk back to medieval Inquisition.

PS Dasi: This is very important and very helpful for the community to expose people's wrong behavior and for not speaking out about these cover up of pedophiles in iskcon. It's so disgraceful and disappointing that these things have not been stopped and I am so distressed about this I will never take initiation from them. People need to wake up what's going on. 

L 08: Since devotees like to see the verse and purport with Vaisnava sources, maybe sinar can go well with the name of the film:

"" Matthew 7:15 (KJV)

“Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.”

🇬🇷 Original Greek (Koine Greek – 1st century)

Κατὰ Ματθαῖον 7:15

Προσέχετε ἀπὸ τῶν ψευδοπροφητῶν,

οἵτινες ἔρχονται πρὸς ὑμᾶς ἐν ἐνδύμασι προβάτων,

ἔσωθεν δέ εἰσιν λύκοι ἅρπαγες.

Literal breakdown (very close to the Greek):

Προσέχετε – Be on guard / beware

ψευδοπροφητῶν – false prophets

ἐν ἐνδύμασι προβάτων – in garments of sheep

ἔσωθεν – inwardly

λύκοι ἅρπαγες – wolves that seize, plunder, devour.

RGD: The trap of endless seeking. Unceasing striving. Unyielding spiritual industry. The saga of the hamster on a perpetual wheel leading up to some supposed higher peak due to wild ideas rooted in the theory of bizarre hierarchies. All this circus will end if we stop allowing the agency of ignorance from distracting the masses by steering them in the opp direction. Exposing sinister motives and designs is an awesome start! This has to be done.

SK Dasi: Thanks!

PD: Yeah Badrinarayan was parading Dhanurdar around as a saintly swami. And an ex-child -- who was one of the victims of Dhanurdra -- saw how people like Badrinarayan were parading Dhanurdar around, so he went home, and took his own life. 

The Los Angeles temple managers were also part of Badri's scheme to parade Dhanurdar around. Of course Badrinarayan was also one of the people giving me the stink eye around Watseka when we helped have them sued. There is no actual support system for the victims, but plenty of support systems for the perps and their enablers. Several other ex-children took their lives in LA, getting no support from the system. One of them was the daughter of one of the lawyers who was defending the GBC, she died from an overdose. ys pd

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Hee hee, well yup. ys pd