ISKCON and BLACK MAGIC
PADA: Yeah, seems to be some sort of Satanic black magic going on among the GBC elites and their crew of sicophants. That being said, a former Satanic witch friend of PADA says, this is an insult to the Satan worshipers.
If the Satanic worshipers find there is a homosexual pedophile in their camp, they call the police and have that person arrested and charged with crimes. Under NO CIRCUMSTANCES would the Satanics ever worship that person on a big golden seat, and then place him in some sort of samadhi later on.
She said that it is an insult to the Satan worshipers to compare them to the GBC program. One of the supposed Leicester devotees named Aniha chastised PADA severely for promoting the worship of a pure devotee, which Aniha told me is "not found in shastra." Then he blocked me, which is pretty typical of these guys.
Yep, there are "no examples in shastra" of anyone worshiping a pure devotee, just not found anywhere in shastra! Instead, we are evidently authorized to worship the GBC's homosexuals, pedophiles, porno swamis, condom-pada, machine gun-pada, drunks, drug addicts and assorted illicit sex fiends etc. What shastra are these people even reading? Even the Satanics do not think this is authorized. Or my Christian friends also think that worship of deviants as God's successors is not authorized.
OK! The Satanics and the Christians know more than most of the so-called Krishna society folks combined. One of my Christian friends said, they worship homosexuals and pedophiles as their messiahs, and then they make pretend they have no idea why there is mass child abuse in their society? All the rest of us know EXACTLY why this problem is rampant in their society!
ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com
JD: Aniha types? Plenty around here too. "Cannot worship a pure devotee, never found in shastra." Aniha types repeating MAIN talking point of the pedophile gurus. They became disciples of the pedophile gurus almost instantly in 1978 ... and gave up on Prabhupada.
That is ... assuming ... if they ever even believed in Srila Prabhupada at all. As soon as pedophile gurus say, "worshiping pure devotees is bogus" ... they all began to repeat. They are not disciples of Srila Prabhupada and Krishna.
But are disciples of the pervert acharyas. That has been the main confusion after 1978, why did all these "big devotees" support perverts as acharyas? Because? Pervert acharyas gave these stooges some position, ego boost, other benefits. Oh right, many of them also got salary, girlfriends, boyfriends, and many material perks. This is called material compromise.
The Shadow of Power: Why the GBC is Just a Facade for the True Threat.
In recent years, our society has developed a strong habit of blaming all crises on the official administrative structure — the GBC. The administrative machine is perceived as the source of all ills: the suppression of dissent, financial scandals, spiritual stagnation.
However, a deeper analysis reveals that today the GBC is not so much an active aggressor as an aging and unwieldy giant, itself hostage to a far more subtle, dangerous, and destructive force.
PADA: The GBC is basically handing off ISKCON to the Hindus, even admitting 75% of their main emphasis is in India. And in the West they are making the Hindus the temple managers -- and / or signers on the temple's properties charity registration -- legal board of directors members etc. And the Hindus are not really totally malevolent as much as they are just -- unaware -- spaced out -- and not so serious about actually following Krishna and Srila Prabhupada.
Srila Prabhupada said they are like the hippies, not serious, and a hodge podge of worshiping various gurus and Gods with no standard ideas. And he said -- if they take over my mission, they will make it into a business, and they are. In that sense, it is somewhat dangerous and destructive to the original aim and object of the society.
The Hidden Threat to the Mission.
The main threat to Srila Prabhupada's mission is not the administrators themselves. It is a group that can be loosely called the "Mayavadi-chaya" — the Imitators (shadows). These are people who either lack real power and titles, or use them only as a formality, yet control the organization's "brains" and "nervous system": meanings, interpretations, and acceptable boundaries of thought.
PADA: There are some behind the scenes shot callers in ISKCON, but most of them are part of the aging old guard and the new guys are just patching together some of the old guard's previous ISKCON molester messiah's process -- combined with the Hindus process -- and a new wave of mostly Indian born leaders, sannyasas and gurus.
Manipulation Mechanics: Parasite and Host.
To understand how Imitators (Group 4) control the GBC (Group) imagine an ancient fortress.
The GBC is the walls: massive, cold, heavy, and almost immobile. And the Imitators are those who have captured the internal corridors, the communication system, and the food warehouses.
1. Information Cocoon.
Senior management often lives in isolation from reality. Imitators are those who "deliver reports." They create an illusory worldview for the GBC, where any criticism is declared an "insult," and any search for truth outside the system is a "conspiracy."
They skillfully play on the senior leaders' fear of losing control. When the GBC issues another strict ban, its text has almost always already been "prepared" by advisors from the 4th group, who whispered, "The mission is in danger."
PADA: Well yeah, but these cover up guys are pretty conspicuous. They are many of the original Prabhupada devotees, or even most of those devotees, who opposed PADA starting in 1978, and they fed false info to these gurus -- the gurus are good, but PADA exposing things is evil. Then those seniors, like Kamsahanta, Naranarayan and many others -- fed the second generation folks like HKC Jaipur that Puranjana is destroying the golden body of ISKCON, because they honestly believe that their pedophile messiahs program is God's golden body program. Neatly explains why nearly none of the parents took their children's abuse cases to the police, they wanted to save the golden body of pedophile pooja.
2. The Technology of Imitation.
The Imitators' main weapon is impeccable outward form. They quote sastras faster than pandits, their kirtans are professional, and their public devotion appears exemplary. But this is only a chaya—a shadow.
Behind the form lies purely materialistic calculations: expanding influence, gathering resources, eliminating competitors. While the GBC still believes in structure, the 4th group believes only in marketing. For them, Krsna consciousness is a corporate technology.
Why are the Imitators more dangerous than the GBC?
The GBC is a visible enemy. Its mistakes are obvious; it can be criticized legally, logically, and openly. The 4th group operates differently—and therefore is more dangerous. They change masks. If the GBC were dissolved tomorrow, the administrators would retire. The Imitators, however, would remain. Moreover, they would be the first to lead a "revolution," the first to declare themselves a "renewed movement," and create a new, even more sophisticated system of control.
They destroy the essence while preserving the veneer. The GBC may make mistakes in management, but the Imitators replace the very purpose. For them, devotees are a "constituency" and a "resource." Under the guise of discipline, they impose an impersonal attitude, depriving people of a living connection with God.
How to recognize an Imitator.
While an administrator can be a mere dry enforcer, an Imitator is always too good. Their markers:
lack of living compassion – protecting the rules at the cost of destroying people;
dependence on PR – image is more important than real sadhana; hatred of uncontrolled spirituality – fear of faith that hasn't passed their filters and censorship.
Bottom line: a strategy for insight.
We must stop wasting all our energy tilting at the windmills of the official administration. The GBC is the symptom. The 4th group is the disease. Victory over the Imitators is impossible through rallies, petitions, or lawsuits. They are defeated only by returning to sincerity. The moment "effective management" ceases to be valued more highly than pure bhakti, their power will vanish.
When the old structure begins to crumble, don't let the Imitators deceive you again, disguised as "saviors of the mission."
When the old structure begins to crumble, don't let the Imitators deceive you again, disguised as "saviors of the mission."
Look deeper. Look not for those proposing a new management structure, but for the one who returns us to Prabhupada. The GBC may fall — and it will only be a change of scenery. But if the 4th group is exposed, the mission will be free.
The lion will soon emerge from the shadows. And his first roar will tear the masks off those who considered themselves masters of the jungle.
PADA: Once the Hindu take over is complete, there won't be hardly any discriminating people left in the "ISKCON Society." And ISKCON will become a society that is run and managed by these Hindus, and caters to Hindu types of programs -- including Hindu weddings, demigod pooja, car poojas, baby blessings, Bhagavat Saptas, Hindu style festivals, inviting Hindu God men's speaking, and / or promoting their books etc. -- and things that are typically done at Hindu temples.
The GBC is already failing, and they are handing the ISKCON society off to the Hindus, because the Western people have rejected the GBC's homosexual and pedophile acharya's project. And it is just getting worse and not better.
There is no secret shadow group managing all this, it is being done in the open public for all to see. The Hindus are openly taking over ISKCON, and that is now the plan, and that always was the plan, and that will be the plan going forward.
ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com
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CPO UPDATE
CPO stands for Child Protection Office. It is the official organization of iskcon that should protect children from abuse. What the GBCs did was chase away serious qualified and impartial devotees who studied abuse cases in ISKCON, to put their men and disciples foot lickers and mr and mrs yes.
CPO stands for Child Protection Office. It is the official organization of iskcon that should protect children from abuse. What the GBCs did was chase away serious qualified and impartial devotees who studied abuse cases in ISKCON, to put their men and disciples foot lickers and mr and mrs yes.
This is the problem and corruption in ISKCON with regards to child abuse. And it just keeps getting worse. Now they want to reintegrate abusers in iskcon
Corruption and hypocrisy are deeply rooted in ISKCON. This case is proof of that. It's a big shame. Srila Prabhupada and Sri Krishna will never forgive you!
Vedic Inquirer Advancing child protection
Below is the very articulate and reasonable letter the victim wrote to the GBC; unfortunately, all she received was silence... GBCs did not respond, CPO Director did not respond, ISKCON legal counsel did not respond and neither did CPOC.
Dear GBC members and senior Vaisnavas,
Please accept my humble obeisances All glories to Srila Prabhupada
CPOC recently conducted what it described as its first due process review of closed CPO cases. I am writing to you as a victim in case it has been reviewed and subsequently canceled, to formally file a complaint about the serious mishandling of my case during this trial.
While they are writing newsletters congratulating themselves for a job well done, the reality is that CPOC, as well as acting CPO Director and GBC EC, have disregarded ISKCON resolutions and their own policies, acted beyond their authority and demonstrated a profound lack of professionalism and attention towards me as a victim of sexual assault and rape.
The stated basis for nullifying the original guardianship decision was that the perpetrator claimed that neither of them were members of ISKCON at the time of the abuse and therefore the matter was never under the jurisdiction of the CPO. This statement was accepted for good without verification. No attempt has been made to verify such an assertion with me, with anyone who knows us or our families, or with any relevant records, although such verification would have been simple. Her unverified statement was then used to overturn an already concluded guardianship decision.
If any of you wish to review the CPOC procedure review report, my detailed written response that addresses each of its points, and my correspondence with Acting CPO Director Champakalata dd, including her explanation that the decision was not communicated to me as to why the updated CPO policy does not explicitly require victims to be informed, they are available to provide all this material fully.
Under the previous CPO management of Kamalesh Krishna das I got justice through CPO process.
Under the previous CPO management of Kamalesh Krishna das I got justice through CPO process.
That process recognized the gravity of what had happened and put protective measures in place that finally allowed me to feel safe. What has happened now has been absolutely devastating to me.
After years of healing and regaining a sense of security, the decision that protected me was overturned without my knowledge, consultation and transparency. I found out through rumors that the perpetrator was allowed to visit ISKCON temples again. No one told me. Decisions were made about me, without me, in a trial that put the perpetrator at the center and canceled the victim.
Not even my local GBC, Praghosa prabhu, received a copy of the decision; later wrote to CPOC saying he was "caught by surprise" by this action.
Consequently, there was great confusion and anguish in the local community when people were seen visiting the temple, without anyone at the local level being able to explain what was happening, due to the total lack of communication from the CPOC and the acting CPO Director.
When I contacted pleading for a copy of the decision and seeking clarification, there were significant delays in replies and in the end a single response from CPOC and Champakalata dd.
Such responses were mostly focused on warning me not to share correspondence, rather than answering my questions, and communication completely ceased when I started asking for explanations as to why established policies were not being followed.
This was deeply re-traumatizing and gave the feeling of being abused again. A guardianship process should never replicate the dynamics of abuse, yet that’s exactly what this experience has done.
I am attaching a detailed letter that outlines the due process failures in the review of my case, including non-compliance with policies, lack of legitimate authority and actions of CPOC, acting CPO Director Champakalata devi dasi and GBC Executive Committee. I appeal to you for justice and for an independent audit of how this trial was conducted.
Not looking for conflict I ask for accountability, transparency and compassion so that this doesn’t happen again, to me or to any other survivor.
I have repeatedly written to GBC Executive Committee, ISKCON Legal Advisor Devakinandana das, Acting CPO Director Champakalata dd and CPOC (Govinda Lilamrita dd, Atmarama Das and Nityananda-kari dd) seeking clarification and accountability. Other than an initial response, I didn't receive any significant involvement. My questions remain unanswered as follow-up correspondence has been ignored.
I have repeatedly written to GBC Executive Committee, ISKCON Legal Advisor Devakinandana das, Acting CPO Director Champakalata dd and CPOC (Govinda Lilamrita dd, Atmarama Das and Nityananda-kari dd) seeking clarification and accountability. Other than an initial response, I didn't receive any significant involvement. My questions remain unanswered as follow-up correspondence has been ignored.
The GBC EC has not responded at all, not even to confirm the receipt of my emails.
Now I’m facing total silence and a rubber wall, with no explanations, no remedies and no resolution in the system. This silence has aggravated the damage already immediately and left me with the feeling of being abused once again by the very protective system that exists to protect survivors from further harm.
Thank you for taking the time to read this letter. I beg you to help me get answers to my questions left unanswered and assist in ensuring that this due process review is subjected to an independent and transparent audit.
Humbly,
Devi Dasi
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OFFERING FOOD
This is a good sign, more people are advertising and using the original prayers here and not the concocted GBC process of offering to deviants.
As you walk down the supermarket aisles selecting the foods you will offer to Krishna, you need to know what is offerable and what is not. In the Bhagavad-gita, Lord Krishna states, "If one offers Me with love and devotion a leaf, a flower, a fruit, or water, I will accept it." From this verse it is understood that we can offer Krishna foods prepared from milk products, vegetables, fruits, nuts, and grains. Meat, fish, and eggs are not offerable. And a few vegetarian items are also forbidden–garlic and onions, for example, which are in the mode of ignorance. (Hing, or asafetida, is a tasty substitute for them in cooking and is available at most Indian groceries.) Nor can you offer to Krishna coffee or tea that contain caffeine. If you like these beverages, purchase caffeine free coffee and herbal teas.
While shopping, be aware that you may find meat, fish, and egg products mixed with other foods; so be sure to read labels carefully. For instance, some brands of yogurt and sour cream contain gelatin, a substance made from the horns, hooves, and bones of slaughtered animals. Also, make sure the cheese you buy contains no rennet, an enzyme extracted from the stomach tissues of slaughtered calves. Most hard cheese sold in America contains rennet, so be careful about any cheese you can't verify as rennetless.
Also avoid foods cooked by non-devotees. According to the subtle laws of nature, the cook acts upon the food not only physically but mentally as well. Food thus becomes an agent for subtle influences on your conscious. The principle is the same as that at work with a painting: a painting is not simply a collection of strokes on a canvas but an expression of the artist's state of mind, which affects the viewer. So if you eat food cooked by non-devotees-employees working in a factory, for example–then you're sure to absorb a dose of materialism and karma. So as far as possible use only fresh, natural ingredients.
In preparing food, cleanliness is the most important principle. Nothing impure should be offered to God; so keep your kitchen very clean. Always wash your hands thoroughly before entering the kitchen. While preparing food, do not taste it, for you are cooking the meal not for yourself but for the pleasure of Krishna. Arrange portions of the food on dinnerware kept especially for this purpose; no one but the Lord should eat from these dishes. The easiest way to offer food is simply to pray, "My dear Lord Krishna, please accept this food," and to chant each of the following prayers three times while ringing a bell:
1. Prayer to Srila Prabhupada:
nama om vishnu-padaya krishna-preshthaya bhutale
srimate bhaktivedanta-swamin iti namine
namas te saraswate deve gaura-vani-pracharine
nirvishesha shunyavadi pashchatya desha tarine
"I offer my respectful obeisances unto His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, who is very dear to Lord Krishna, having taken shelter at His lotus feet. Our respectful obeisances are unto you, O spiritual master, servant of Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Gosvami. You are kindly preaching the message of Lord Caitanya deva and delivering the Western countries, which are filled with impersonalism and voidism."
2. Prayer to Lord Chaitanya:
namo maha-vadanyaya krishna-prema-pradaya te
krishnaya krishna-chaitanya-namne gaura-twishe namaha
"O most munificent incarnation! You are Krishna Himself appearing as Sri Krishna Caitanya Mahaprabhu. You have assumed the golden color of Srimati Radharani. and You are widely distributing pure love of Krishna. We offer our respectful obeisances unto You."
3. Prayer to Lord Krishna:
namo brahmanya-devaya go-brahmana-hitaya cha
jagad-dhitaya krishnaya govindaya namo namaha
"I offer my respectful obeisances unto Lord Krishna, who is the worshipable Deity for all brahmanas the well-wisher of the cows and the brahmanas and the benefactor of the whole world. I offer my repeated obeisances to the Personality of Godhead, known as Krishna and Govinda."
Remember that the real purpose of preparing and offering food to the Lord is to show your devotion and gratitude to Him. Krishna accepts your devotion, not the physical offering itself. God is complete in Himself–He doesn't need anything–but out of His immense kindness He allows us to offer food to Him so that we can develop our love for Him.
After offering the food to the Lord, wait at least five minutes for Him to partake of the preparations. Then you should transfer the food from the special dinnerware and wash the dishes and utensils you used for the offering. Now you and any guests may eat the prasadam. While you eat, try to appreciate the spiritual value of the food. Remember that because Krishna has accepted it, it is non-different from Him, and therefore by eating it you will become purified.
Everything you offer on your altar becomes prasadam, the mercy of the Lord. The flowers, the incense, the water, the food–everything you offer for the Lord's pleasure becomes spiritualized. When we offer the Lord something with genuine love and devotion, He enters into the offering, and thus the remnants are non-different from Him. So you should not only deeply respect the things you've offered, but you should distribute them to others as well.
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OFFERING FOOD
This is a good sign, more people are advertising and using the original prayers here and not the concocted GBC process of offering to deviants.
As you walk down the supermarket aisles selecting the foods you will offer to Krishna, you need to know what is offerable and what is not. In the Bhagavad-gita, Lord Krishna states, "If one offers Me with love and devotion a leaf, a flower, a fruit, or water, I will accept it." From this verse it is understood that we can offer Krishna foods prepared from milk products, vegetables, fruits, nuts, and grains. Meat, fish, and eggs are not offerable. And a few vegetarian items are also forbidden–garlic and onions, for example, which are in the mode of ignorance. (Hing, or asafetida, is a tasty substitute for them in cooking and is available at most Indian groceries.) Nor can you offer to Krishna coffee or tea that contain caffeine. If you like these beverages, purchase caffeine free coffee and herbal teas.
While shopping, be aware that you may find meat, fish, and egg products mixed with other foods; so be sure to read labels carefully. For instance, some brands of yogurt and sour cream contain gelatin, a substance made from the horns, hooves, and bones of slaughtered animals. Also, make sure the cheese you buy contains no rennet, an enzyme extracted from the stomach tissues of slaughtered calves. Most hard cheese sold in America contains rennet, so be careful about any cheese you can't verify as rennetless.
Also avoid foods cooked by non-devotees. According to the subtle laws of nature, the cook acts upon the food not only physically but mentally as well. Food thus becomes an agent for subtle influences on your conscious. The principle is the same as that at work with a painting: a painting is not simply a collection of strokes on a canvas but an expression of the artist's state of mind, which affects the viewer. So if you eat food cooked by non-devotees-employees working in a factory, for example–then you're sure to absorb a dose of materialism and karma. So as far as possible use only fresh, natural ingredients.
In preparing food, cleanliness is the most important principle. Nothing impure should be offered to God; so keep your kitchen very clean. Always wash your hands thoroughly before entering the kitchen. While preparing food, do not taste it, for you are cooking the meal not for yourself but for the pleasure of Krishna. Arrange portions of the food on dinnerware kept especially for this purpose; no one but the Lord should eat from these dishes. The easiest way to offer food is simply to pray, "My dear Lord Krishna, please accept this food," and to chant each of the following prayers three times while ringing a bell:
1. Prayer to Srila Prabhupada:
nama om vishnu-padaya krishna-preshthaya bhutale
srimate bhaktivedanta-swamin iti namine
namas te saraswate deve gaura-vani-pracharine
nirvishesha shunyavadi pashchatya desha tarine
"I offer my respectful obeisances unto His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, who is very dear to Lord Krishna, having taken shelter at His lotus feet. Our respectful obeisances are unto you, O spiritual master, servant of Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Gosvami. You are kindly preaching the message of Lord Caitanya deva and delivering the Western countries, which are filled with impersonalism and voidism."
2. Prayer to Lord Chaitanya:
namo maha-vadanyaya krishna-prema-pradaya te
krishnaya krishna-chaitanya-namne gaura-twishe namaha
"O most munificent incarnation! You are Krishna Himself appearing as Sri Krishna Caitanya Mahaprabhu. You have assumed the golden color of Srimati Radharani. and You are widely distributing pure love of Krishna. We offer our respectful obeisances unto You."
3. Prayer to Lord Krishna:
namo brahmanya-devaya go-brahmana-hitaya cha
jagad-dhitaya krishnaya govindaya namo namaha
"I offer my respectful obeisances unto Lord Krishna, who is the worshipable Deity for all brahmanas the well-wisher of the cows and the brahmanas and the benefactor of the whole world. I offer my repeated obeisances to the Personality of Godhead, known as Krishna and Govinda."
Remember that the real purpose of preparing and offering food to the Lord is to show your devotion and gratitude to Him. Krishna accepts your devotion, not the physical offering itself. God is complete in Himself–He doesn't need anything–but out of His immense kindness He allows us to offer food to Him so that we can develop our love for Him.
After offering the food to the Lord, wait at least five minutes for Him to partake of the preparations. Then you should transfer the food from the special dinnerware and wash the dishes and utensils you used for the offering. Now you and any guests may eat the prasadam. While you eat, try to appreciate the spiritual value of the food. Remember that because Krishna has accepted it, it is non-different from Him, and therefore by eating it you will become purified.
Everything you offer on your altar becomes prasadam, the mercy of the Lord. The flowers, the incense, the water, the food–everything you offer for the Lord's pleasure becomes spiritualized. When we offer the Lord something with genuine love and devotion, He enters into the offering, and thus the remnants are non-different from Him. So you should not only deeply respect the things you've offered, but you should distribute them to others as well.
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