VAISHNAVAS ESPANA
We have reports that the documentary series "Wolves in Saffron" https://wolvesinsaffron.com is causing panic among ISKCON's high commanders and that is just the trailer. We'll start to see how they try to mitigate the damage (instead of being truthful for a change). One of the tactics is the "limited hangout" that we went to explain:
Limited hangout is a damage control technique.
It translates to Spanish as "controlled revelation" or "selective disclosure". In the context of ISKCON's GBC, the "Limited Hangout" tactic would be when an irregularity is discovered, partially admitted to satisfy public curiosity, but more harmful facts are hidden. The term originated from the CIA and was popularized during the Watergate scandal. For example, in ISKCON a leader could admit a minor ethical breach to divert attention from major crimes. How easy would it be to admit it all and fix it. But they're not interested in the truth. They are politicians, not Brahmins.
PADA: Yeah, the main wolf in question is Radhanath, the GBC's five star rated hero and most promoted leader. And -- the cause of Sulochana's departure and me almost biting the (New Vrndavana) bullet myself. The movie takes on their main leaders, so it will create a panic for sure.
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Terry Conley, aka Trai das, and his wife Krishna Loka devi dasi run the Vaikuntha Center, located in Via Nadi 6 in Bologna, with the help of the inet Samuel, aka Shyama Govinda dasa, and his wife Martina Fadel aka Madhuri Manjari devi dasi. All of them are disciples of Radhanath Swami (Richard Slavin), known as "Swami" of ISKCON often associated with the events related to the 1986 assassination of Sulochan Dasa.
These two extremely shady individuals claim to organize Bhakti Yoga classes, but actually in their centre they have previously promoted pedophile and rapist Ulrich Harlan, also known as Paramadvaiti, despite being warned several times. Even worse, as for the pedophile Claudio Malaguti (Kalia Krishna das), known as “Bhakta Claudio”, they have done something much more serious: they kept him in their own Vaikuntha Centre and covered him for over 20 years.
Trai Das and Krishna Loka always knew that Bhakta Claudio had sexually abused Namahatta's son Namananda, and nevertheless allowed him to run part of their Vaikuntha Centre, allowing him to interact with young boys and families who had children. Only after Namananda reported him after 35 years as his sex abuser, and only after he was expelled from all ISKCON temples, Trai das and Krishna Loka decided to move him away permanently, exclusively for fear of losing their place in ISKCON.
"In my humble opinion, grace is lacking in the current mission, which is a pale replica of the original mission. The main reason for this is that Srila Prabhupada's teachings are based on pure bhakti. But the teachings erroneously and illegally attributed to him in the edited books are very different from his original teachings.
By removing the true teachings since 1983, depression and misery have increased.
Bhakti is a descending path of mercy, especially in this age of Kali, the mercy of Lord Chaitanya. But the current editions of the books do not teach this. They teach the path of ritual and self-redemption, not grace.
Because of this, you will see self-help seminars and yoga aspirants everywhere in ISKCON. This is the opposite path to what Prabhupada taught. Why? Because in the age of Kali, no one can succeed through the ascending paths of yoga, jnana (knowledge), and rigorous rituals and renunciation. They are bound to feel disappointed and sad.
Is there a solution? Return to the pure teachings of Srila Prabhupada, and you will find the pure teachings of bhakti. And you will never be depressed again.
Govinda Dasi
January 15, 1990: On this date in history 36 years ago, Bhaktivedanta Narayana Maharaja, a disciple of Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada’s sannyasa guru, confirms that a madhyama adhikari can serve as guru:
That is not good. If one is able to strictly follow the sannyāsa rules and regulation, he should take. Otherwise, Kṛṣṇa has said that sannyāsa, real sannyāsa, means one who does not take any remuneration for his service to Kṛṣṇa. That is sannyāsa. Anāśritaḥ karma-phalaṁ kāryaṁ karma karoti yaḥ sa sannyāsī (BG 6.1). "It is my duty. I am eternal servant of Kṛṣṇa. To serve Kṛṣṇa is my duty." Kāryam: "I must do it." Actually that mentality is sannyāsa. It doesn't matter whether we have changed the dress or not, but if we decide it, that "I am eternal servant of Kṛṣṇa; my only du
ty is to serve Kṛṣṇa," that is sannyāsa.
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TRAI DASA
Vaikuntha center in Bologna: violence and pedophilia
Vaikuntha center in Bologna: violence and pedophilia
(ENGLISH TRANSLATION BELOW)
These two extremely shady individuals claim to organize Bhakti Yoga classes, but actually in their centre they have previously promoted pedophile and rapist Ulrich Harlan, also known as Paramadvaiti, despite being warned several times. Even worse, as for the pedophile Claudio Malaguti (Kalia Krishna das), known as “Bhakta Claudio”, they have done something much more serious: they kept him in their own Vaikuntha Centre and covered him for over 20 years.
Trai Das and Krishna Loka always knew that Bhakta Claudio had sexually abused Namahatta's son Namananda, and nevertheless allowed him to run part of their Vaikuntha Centre, allowing him to interact with young boys and families who had children. Only after Namananda reported him after 35 years as his sex abuser, and only after he was expelled from all ISKCON temples, Trai das and Krishna Loka decided to move him away permanently, exclusively for fear of losing their place in ISKCON.
Ramachandra das of Villa Vrindavana often helped them in their misdeeds, even when it came to defending husbands who beat wives. So we wonder how it is possible that Trai das and Krishna Loka were not removed from ISKCON even though they always knew and kept all these abusers hidden. Aren’t they even more responsible for putting the so-called devotees and ignorant people in grave danger, including the children who used to attend the centre, hiding these facts?
Now Saints act, like nothing happened, just because everything has finally come to the light. What kind of false hypocrites are these two?
Now Saints act, like nothing happened, just because everything has finally come to the light. What kind of false hypocrites are these two?
Update on Radhanath Swami
A shocking piece of information has surfaced very recently, attributed to one of the conspirators involved in the 1986 conspiracy: apart from Bhaktipada’s fingerprints, Radhanath Swami’s fingerprints are also found on the $4,000 linked to the arrest of Tirtha, who is being jailed for killing Sulochan Das in return about that money. According to the article, the public ministers were aware of it but chose to focus mainly on Bhaktipada.
The text also cites a second source, Krishna Katha, who claims Los Angeles detectives told him Radhanath's fingerprints were found on the money seized at Tirtha. This element represents another very serious tassel linking Radhanath Swami to Sulochan’s murder.
Useful link
https://krishna1008.blogspot.com/.../krishna-west-cyril...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHgCY_DWyPE
https://www.henrydoktorski.com/.../AbsoluteIsSentient.html
https://www.harekrsna.com/.../08-10/editorials6433.htm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHgCY_DWyPE
https://www.henrydoktorski.com/.../AbsoluteIsSentient.html
https://www.harekrsna.com/.../08-10/editorials6433.htm
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DEVOTEE DEPRESSION
There are numerous posts by devotees saying that even devotees suffer from depression and writing long posts advocating psychological methods. Here is an interesting comment by Govinda Dasi ACBSP on this subject:
There are numerous posts by devotees saying that even devotees suffer from depression and writing long posts advocating psychological methods. Here is an interesting comment by Govinda Dasi ACBSP on this subject:
"In my humble opinion, grace is lacking in the current mission, which is a pale replica of the original mission. The main reason for this is that Srila Prabhupada's teachings are based on pure bhakti. But the teachings erroneously and illegally attributed to him in the edited books are very different from his original teachings.
By removing the true teachings since 1983, depression and misery have increased.
Bhakti is a descending path of mercy, especially in this age of Kali, the mercy of Lord Chaitanya. But the current editions of the books do not teach this. They teach the path of ritual and self-redemption, not grace.
Because of this, you will see self-help seminars and yoga aspirants everywhere in ISKCON. This is the opposite path to what Prabhupada taught. Why? Because in the age of Kali, no one can succeed through the ascending paths of yoga, jnana (knowledge), and rigorous rituals and renunciation. They are bound to feel disappointed and sad.
Is there a solution? Return to the pure teachings of Srila Prabhupada, and you will find the pure teachings of bhakti. And you will never be depressed again.
Govinda Dasi
PADA: Devotees and depression, and all sorts of "devotee therapy" people like Prithu's helpmate Rambhouru, Mahatma, Pranada etc. to give us "therapy." Great, except -- aren't they the same people who crammed the molester messiah's project down our throats, and the children's throats, are they now going to save us from depression, resulting from their own program?
This is great, they make the disease, and make money, and make the cure, and still make money. Sound business idea! Yep, their molester messiah's program will cause depression, but hey -- we all knew that when they started all this in 1978.
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MADHYAM GURU
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MADHYAM GURU
January 15, 1990: On this date in history 36 years ago, Bhaktivedanta Narayana Maharaja, a disciple of Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada’s sannyasa guru, confirms that a madhyama adhikari can serve as guru:
“[The] uttama adhikari [guru] can [bestow Krishna prema: unadulterated love of God upon his disciples.] But the madhyama adhikari, if he gives initiation, by practicing will show the disciple the way he is going personally, and by following this the disciple will [also] achieve Krishna prema. It can be done.”
For more, see “Eleven Naked Emperors,” p. 131.
http://www.henrydoktorski.com/11NakedEmperors.html
For more, see “Eleven Naked Emperors,” p. 131.
http://www.henrydoktorski.com/11NakedEmperors.html
PADA: Holy smokes! The Crypto Christian Karta Bhaja Ritvik Sahajiyas are worshiping pure devotees! And therefore -- not Kailasa's conditioned souls, who can become demons! Kailasa wants OUR CHILDREN to worship his conditioned soul people who can become demons, and that is why he is writing position papers for the GBC, who has the same identical idea. The guru is a conditioned soul who can become a demon is the entire GBC siddhanta, and Kailasa's.
We need to worship people who can fall into illicit sex with men, women and children! Told ya! Why worship Jesus when we can worship: The falling down left, right and center! Worse, Kailasa says that when Srila Prabhupada says Madhyam can fall down -- and become asuras -- HE IS WRONG.
*** Thanks prabhu, yep Klub Veda Serbia is a disciple of Kailasa Chandra, who wrote the 1990 GBC paper, "Madhyam Gurus," which was distributed by Ravindra Swarupa and Trivrikrama swami all over the ISKCON society. However, when we told Kailasa that Srila Prabhupada said Madhyam can fall down and become an asura, Kailasa said that is nonsense, Srila Prabhupada is wrong, Madhyam never falls down. He knows more that Srila Prabhupada, who says the acharya must be an uttama, resident of Krishna loka etc. and yes Madhyam can fall down.
Sorry, Madhyam does not qualify to be acharya, that is a fact. And then the GBC began to cite Kailasa, see, our gurus fall down because Madhyam can fall down. So this is called sahajiya. In addition, Kailasa joined with the Kirtanananda people saying me and Sulochana are drunks and sahajiyas, and Sulochana said they are discredtiting us to make us targets. Sulochana said Kailasa is helping to make us targets, and we were. And Kailasa still says we are drunks and sahajiyas. So the reform to join the GBC making conditioned souls into acharyas, is not a reform, it is just recycling the 1990 GBC paper penned by Kailasa.
Kailasa simply joined with Narayan Maharaja who was also making Madhyam guru papers for the GBC in 1990. Why is Kailasa pretending to be a Prabhupada man when he is standing with Narayan Maharaja since 1990? Why is Kailasa working behind the scenes to support the GBC and NM?
Someone said, he is a double agent. Notice he is infuriated the ritviks are making the BBTI case, child molester case, poison case etc., and he is against us saying this is all bogus. "The ritviks are doing all sorts of things, we never do anything." Oh yeah, what Tamal says. Sorry the ritviks are dealing with the real issues and we are not writing position papers for the GBC.
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"PLEASE GIVE ME SANNYASA, GIVE ME SANNYASA--AND THEN FALL DOWN AND GO TO HELL-THAT IS NOT GOOD."
"PLEASE GIVE ME SANNYASA, GIVE ME SANNYASA--AND THEN FALL DOWN AND GO TO HELL-THAT IS NOT GOOD."
Shrila Prabhupada:
Therefore in the śāstra it is forbidden that Kali-yuga is very difficult to follow the rules and regulation of a sannyāsī; therefore better not to accept sannyāsa. Kalau pañca vivarjayet. Sannyāsaṁ pala-paitṛkam devareṇa sutotpattiṁ kalau pañca vivarjayet (CC Adi 17.164). Instead of becoming a false sannyāsī, do not accept sannyāsa. This is the injunction of the śāstra. But for preaching work we have to get the help of some sannyāsī, but we should remember that we are in Kali-yuga. We should not be sentimentally very much anxious—"Please give me sannyāsa, give me sannyāsa"—and then fall down and go to hell. That is not good.
That is not good. If one is able to strictly follow the sannyāsa rules and regulation, he should take. Otherwise, Kṛṣṇa has said that sannyāsa, real sannyāsa, means one who does not take any remuneration for his service to Kṛṣṇa. That is sannyāsa. Anāśritaḥ karma-phalaṁ kāryaṁ karma karoti yaḥ sa sannyāsī (BG 6.1). "It is my duty. I am eternal servant of Kṛṣṇa. To serve Kṛṣṇa is my duty." Kāryam: "I must do it." Actually that mentality is sannyāsa. It doesn't matter whether we have changed the dress or not, but if we decide it, that "I am eternal servant of Kṛṣṇa; my only du
ty is to serve Kṛṣṇa," that is sannyāsa.
So better we should try to stay in this determination than to accept the sannyāsa order by changing the dress and then again we fall down. That is not very good. There are instances like that, but it is not at all good. We should not trust the mind. And even we take, we should be very, very vigilant on the mind. Viśvāso naiva kartavyam. Cāṇakya Paṇḍita says, (chuckles) viśvāso naiva kartavyaḥ strīṣu rāja-kuleṣu ca. "Never trust woman and politician."
He was a politician, and his wife was kidnapped. He had very bad experience of these two things, Cāṇakya Paṇḍita. Therefore he gave this injunction, viśvāso naiva kartavyaḥ strīṣu rāja-kuleṣu ca: "Never trust woman and politician." So Cāṇakya Paṇḍita was not inexperienced; he was very experienced. All the ślokas of Cāṇakya Paṇḍita—very useful for daily affairs. So similarly, we should not trust the mind, that "Now I have become liberated." Never think so. We should always remember that liberation is not so easy thing, but if we follow the rules and regulation, then there is every possibility of becoming liberated.
[Excerpt from Lecture on Smd.Bhagavatam 5.6.2 -- Vrndavana, November 24, 1976]


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