PADA: OK Satsvarupa still has headaches, which means he has taken karma and it is causing suffering. That is exactly what Srila Prabhupada says will happen, if we take karma, we WILL have to suffer. And he is suffering because he wanted to be another Jesus and take sins. Obviously, not qualified for that post.
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Satsvarupa was already suffering from paranoid delusions when he saw me and Sulochana were exposing his pal Kirtanananda. He said we are "poison pens" trying to destroy ISKCON etc. so he could make us target, and he did make us targets. The good news is he "working on new publications" so we can read more deluded and Sundown Syndrome rants from this deluded fool.
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WHAT ABOUT THE GOOD GBC GURUS?
PADA: Thanks very much. I have made other videos on people like Gaura Govinda Maharaja, who was writing papers to defend the false GBC gurus. And he personally told me he has to work with the GBC gurus. In other words he was their shastric writer public defender, while I was having them sued for $400,000,000 for mass child mistreatment. Gopal Krishna swami helped make the samadhi for Kirtanananda, a known child predator, so now people are worshiping a child predator in a samadhi.
Bhakti Tirtha swami was having Prabhupada's devotees beat up, like Kulashekar, who never recovered and had to take pain medications for the rest of his life. Then he died early and in a lot of pain. BTS also sent two ladies into a civil war zone because one of those ladies was going to expose he was having an affair with her, and she was taken out. Gone.
The people who aided and abetted the whole process are part responsible for the whole operation. And of course Bhakti Tirtha -- and all of us -- was told not to take karma, but he took karma without authority, and so -- he also took himself out by taking too many sins. He has no authority to claim he is like Jesus and he can take sins, and he was very friendly with Kirtananda and other exploiters. So these guys are all part of the problem.
Gaura Govinda was enthusiastic about having Jayapataka take sins, and look at the state of the guy. And so on. How did any of them help us when we had them sued? None of them helped me one iota, the courts had to help me fix their mass mistreatment process, not them. Then they spent $20,000,000 suing Bangalore, to shut down a free food program for children, when I am suing them for not feeding their own children. And so on and so forth.
I have discussed many of these points in my other videos and I invite you to study them. Gaura Govinda swami was saying he is a diksha guru who can absorb sins, and thus he is another Jesus, and he said the ritviks are like the bogus Christians. In other words Gaura Govinda wanted to replace Jesus, and he also was taken out from taking sins. It is amazing, Gaura Govinda said we cannot worship pure devotees like Jesus, but we can worship predators of minors. He has no idea of basic religion, never mind Vedic principles. ys pd
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CHILD ABUSE DISCUSSION
The abuse happened because people were in grief from Prabhupada's departure.
SDD: Many if not all of the children were threatened with death or death of their family members. That has been stated by the abused many times. The other thing was the separation from their families and having to do what they had to do to survive. It was horrific and many committed suicide.
The idea that the leaders did not know how to cope with it is not the case with most. They were given CPO reports at GBC meetings explaining the horror of daily beatings, starvation, mental cruelty, being locked in cold closets with spiders and no clothing, having to eat their own vomit when the children would throw up the cold porridge with bugs in it.
Being woken up at 3 am with a cold bucket of water and sleeping on cold floors with no bedding. These things were done to create cracks in their minds, so that they would not want to be devotees or hear Krishna's name. The movement was taken over by the cabal and you can see that at every twisted turn of events. Going against everything that Srila Prabhupada had instructed.
RD: I think SDD is trying to figure out why some leaders were insensitive to child abuse. He is trying to draw a comparison or a parallel that they avoided emotions, in Prabhupada's leaving ... although I don't think they did, they felt it.
So why are ISKCON leaders avoided dealing with aspects of child abuse? This was mostly due to a lack of education and awareness of these matters in a past era. As it was with many other religions and organisations such as the BBC, royalty, and leading educational institutions.
Now, fortunately they have the information.. due to child protection organisations ... world wide. Now there is no excuse.... Everyone has been educated to be aware of the signs of child abuse. And the recommendation by all experts in the feild and key instruction ....... immediately call in local agencies and the police ... and make a report however minor or major the incident.
Such a policy keeps dangerous persons to children away, no second chances. A extensive UK study on protecting children main point .. always always always report incident to the police .... something many organisations did not do in the past, including ISKCON.
Particularly, religious organisations have to be careful, like the Catholic faith, who expect their priests not to marry. In ISKCON early days, novice monks and artificial sannyasa were holding on to Ashram status due to pride ..... and they would be vulnerable to temptations due to artificial suppression.
So .. education education education is needed, and lack of it was the cause of child abuse. In current times on line abuse is a major problem, and pornography.
Those persons who feel themselves vulnerable should seek help. Obviously the % of child abusers in ISKCON compared to reasonable devotees is very very low .
DVD: As I shared in another essay, I feel the focus on child abuse is a red herring because that situatuon is a symptom of a much larger culture of abuse that touches all of us still. The essay is called 'Child Projection' and its essentially saying because you feel allowed to talk about Child abuse many people.do, but it is a code word for their own experience which for various reasons deeply connected to the above essay they do not feel allowed to say.
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GPD: Unprocessed grief regarding Prabhuapada's departure doesn't adequately explain the misbehaviours of ISKCON's leadership, nor the abuse that was endemic in the gurukulas. Problematic themes of personal ambition, authoritarianism, abuse of women and gurukula child abuse were all manifest in the society well prior to Prabhupada's leaving.
The established trajectory may have accelerated post-Prabhupada (research would be required to prove this) but in no way did the issues 'begin in earnest' at this time. Likewise, 'going out and gaining the world' was an ideology implemented and exemplified by SP himself - and practised by his disciples at his behest - not one adopted by his disciples due to unprocessed grief after his departure.
The author proposes that 'the eventual result of this denial was that some of them developed the delusion of equivalency with their lost father. They demanded the larger God family bow to them and if they didn't that was tantamount to betrayal of him.'
Incorrect. This was not an 'eventual result', the equivalency manifest *immediately* after SP's departure. This immediacy undermines the theory of unprocessed grief mutating into toxic behaviours and suggests a rather different emotion at play in those who succeeded Prabhupada.
As DMD prabhu states, he is relatively new to ISKCON / KC, so cannot reasonably be expected to assess the aetiology of the institution's problems (at least not without education in this area from those of greater vintage).
I believe he is sincere in his theorizing, but it's possible he seeks to preserve the bubble of idealism that attracted him to KC / ISKCON in the frst place and characterized his initial experience and worldview concerning the institution and its leaders. This is natural, but such attempt inevitably spawns a soft and sentimental explanation which fails to pinpoint actual causation, as its primary intent is to preserve belief and faith in that (institution and its leaders) which provided / provides one with emotional solace and purpose in life.
The problem, of course, is that mis-diagnosis never leads to appropriate treatment and remediation. To the contrary, it will exacerbate a problem through providing an unfounded sense of having identified the disease aetiology, while the true cause remains unredressed.
I have thought extensively about ISKCON's problems. I was forced to do so for my own spiritual survival having brushed with ruination in the meat grinder of ISKCON gurukula. Noxious emotions on the part of ISKCON leaders does have a role to play, but this emotion is something other than unprocessed grief. Bhakti however, can gradually dissolve bad emotion, unless that emotion progresses to vaisnava aparadha and bhakti is instead dissolved.
Real bhakti is a panacea, and vaisnava aparadha is the only phenomenon able to block this cure-all action of bhakti. IMO it is the only adequate explanation for ISKCON's historic and current woes.
KKD: Thought provoking post. Reading the Lilamrta is the real issue. Already documented 100's of untruths discovered throughout the Lilamrta.
Go to: https://harekrishnasociety.org/
For the in depth analysis that proves the Lilamrta is NOT an authorized biography of HDG Srila Prabhupada. In fact, important to note. Srila Prabhupada never authorized a biography be written. He's famous for saying, "if you want to know me, read my books" We all know He's referring to the unchanged original authorized pre 1977 books.
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PADA: Yeah, when I was a kid I attended various funerals for various people, and I never heard that the grief from that event made some of those surviving people into child abusers? That makes no sense at all. If anything, people who are grieving over Prabhupada's departure would then have taken extra special care of his children, knowing that the father was not here to oversee and protect them.
They would have doubled up security and care for his children. Instead they doubled up care for the abusers. Yep, makes no sense.
There is no record that I know of where a person's departure causes child abuse to happen? What happened instead is that the abuse of brahmanas, women, and children simply went into industrial scale. That happened because the overseer was gone, so now they could do what they wanted, and that is what they wanted. To say this abuse happened because these people were grieving is -- one of the most sad and odious excuses ever imagined.
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