Rupa Manjari / Suicidal ex-Krishna Kid / CPO / ISKCON is the Deity 10 05 25

We are teeny, tiny, infinitesimal atomic sized beings, that would make an ant a giant compared to us. But we are also part of the complete whole -- namely Lord Krishna -- which makes us have  significance -- to Him. 

Sri Rupa Manjari Dasi: I agree, Naranarayan Visvakarma (NNV) was my karma, full stop, but at the same time, it is vitally important to always call a spade a spade. The man very nearly murdered me on more than one occasion (this is not an exaggeration). He tortured me, Dina, Nischintya, and others, and was a debauchee addicted to sex even into old age. He was truly a monster, and the very last thing he said to me, upon which I finally left, were the words "Prabhupada was wrong". 

So, after 8.5 years of hell, he revealed his true opinion, so I left, losing everything in the process, notably my 10 month old son, who is now 10 years old. But yes, there is no doubt that NN also performed many "herculean feats" for ISKCON and Srila Prabhupada. I just wonder as to his motives. But what he did presumably still counts, at least on some level, in God's Eyes.

PADA: Yep. In 1998 we had to help the children victims have the GBC sued for mass child molesting, and NNV started to oppose me and say that PADA is "destroying the golden body of ISKCON." And he gathered a small band of devotees like Krishna Kant Desai (IRM), Sanat, Mukunda and others to attack PADA. Later on that group was joined by HKC Jaipur, Mathura Pati, Prabhupadanugas EU etc. PADA should NOT save children!

Well as usual, the good news is, the mundane hamburger eating law enforcement, media and courts folks -- did not agree with them -- that a child starving, beating and rape program is the "golden body of God." No kidding! Sulochana said that if they would worship a bucket of dog manure, it will not molest children or have devotees beaten and assassinated, but these people are not advanced enough to worship a bucket of dog manure, that will take many lifetimes. I think he is right.  

And NNV complained I was "conspiring with the karmis to destroy ISKCON" and so forth. Well yep, truth be told, I was conspiring with the karmis -- to save children -- and we did save children. Perhaps hundreds of them were pulled out of ISKCON's schools due to the lawsuit. And victims wrote to thank me for helping them, if not saving their lives because some were suicidal and so on. That being said, some of the ISKCON children are still suicidal now, so we could not help fix the whole situation, we did save some, but not all. 

Since I was in Los Angeles at the time, NNV and co. saying that I was "destroying ISKCON" was meant to make me a target for possible assassination. Even the LAPD police there told me (several times) "these people killed your friend here, and they want to kill you, and they will kill you if they can." And NNV was pouring petrol on the fire to make me a target.

There were many goondas in LA at the time and it was very dangerous to say this PADA person is destroying ISKCON. OK NNV was trying to get me killed. And so are the rest of the people whom he gathered along with him to attack me. Then he started saying I am a sahajiya, as if only sahajiyas know that pedophile guru programs are bogus and need to be confronted. Congratulations, you are a sahajiya, which makes you 10,000% more advanced than the pro-pedophile pooja project and its cheer leaders.

When I was handing out papers at a Rathayatra, I heard a car noise and I turned around and it was NNV -- zooming fast right at me -- in his sporty BMW -- with his Japanese girlfriend in the car. I had to jump out of the way, or get clobbered. No one is allowed to drive on the park grass, thus no one expects any car, never mind a speeding car, to be driving fast over the grass. I still don't know -- if he was trying to take me out -- or if he was not paying attention? Hee hee! 

That Japanese girl is the one whom he got pregnant, and the parents made her have an abortion after they realized NNV is not capable of taking care of her. NNV said he was saying prayers for the soul of the baby. Great, but maybe you should not be making these babies? And there was a host of other troubles with his various wives and various kids situations. I know some of his kids and actually I appreciate their situation and wish them all the best despite all the problems they had. In fact I consider all of them victims, including Rupa Manjari.

NNV was -- in short -- a misogynist and serial womanizing predator. And he was using ISKCON as a vehicle to find vulnerable "devotee women" whom he could pounce on, put his grubby mitts on, and snatch up and prey upon. Needless to say, targeting and exploiting Krishna's devotee ladies is not going to be approved of AT ALL by Lord Krishna. OK not approved by Lord Yamaraja either. 

A woman who is trying to surrender to Krishna is in a very vulnerable state for exploiting by "an advanced senior devotee." It is not much different than a GBC guru exploiting a woman in my opinion. Add to that -- a man who is vicious and violent with women, and that adds to the misery multiple times. 

Srila Prabhupada says when a guru has sex with a follower, it is the same as a father having sex with his own daughter, and thus these "senior devotee" exploiter people are not a whole lot different in my opinion. So a person who exploits others for sex will naturally not be happy when PADA tries to prevent other exploiters, evidently, even exploiters of children. OK using the post of "senior man" or "guru" means these exploiters are de facto pedophiles -- for using their -- advanced, fatherly or senior post to manipulate victims. This is called clergy abuse by the karmis. 

Of course NNV is also the founder father of saying "PADA is a liar," which simply aided and abetted the sexual abusers of children process by discrediting us. Yep, as soon as PADA says -- children are being abused, nope, it is all "PADA's lies"!

I am always trying to be more of a gentleman in my language these days, but Sulochana used to call these people "boot lickers for the butt busters." So we might consider his opinion of all this as well, since he did sacrifice his life to oppose these people. 

So I feel bad for these women (and their children). They wanted to serve Krishna and ended up serving an exploiter of women using the name of Krishna as a means of trapping these unsuspecting females. The women were then victims, but oftentimes -- so were the children. And so were many other children in their society.

This is very, very, very sinful. And it caused these women to suffer in so many ways. Anyway this is another issue that needs to be resolved, the gurus are the main exploiters, but they have a team of sycophants, hangers on, supporters, associates, and like minded predators, who are also exploiters. No surprise then that the IRM / HKC Jaipur / Mathura Pati etc. all latched onto the NNV program. As Sulochana said -- (misogynist / exploiter) -- birds of a feather flop together. 

Did I forget to mention that NNV told me Radhanath is doing great preaching, and then the Mukunda UK / Mathura Pati / HKC Jaipur crowd started promoting Radhanath's cheer leaders. Radhanath was telling Tirtha he did a noble deed taking out Sulochana. And these guys are upset I am not glorifying their oral sex with boys in the motorhome and murder sampradaya?

And these same people wanted me taken out. They are clearly birds of a feather. Anyway, Rupa Manjari is a victim in my opinion, and I wish her well, and hope for all the best for her future, and hope she can heal from all the ISKCON nightmares a lot of us had to endure. She needs uplifting and encouraging and we should all do that.

But Krishna is very merciful, and He can help us heal and move on if we ask Him for that mercy. Durga's shakti and Kali Yuga is very overwhelming, thus as soon as we think we have Kali Yuga under our control, we don't have anything under our control. This should all be taken a collective lesson for all of us to learn from. 

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com

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SUICUDAL KRISHNA KID

In so many words, the person I will refer to as "Syama" told me today that he tried to kill himself sometime last winter, by stopping his dialysis and refusing to take his meds. This is one of the original 1972 Dallas gurukulis, and he was tortured in his youth as a "student" there. Syama did not say the words "kill myself" or "suicide", but he did say that he tried to end it all and let things run their course so that he could expedite his exit from his body. 

I do not know exactly what happened, but he came close to dying and a somebody in the hospital talked him into sticking around a while longer. Please pray for my friend Syama, friends. It's pronounced "Shawm"; like "Shawn" with an "m". To say that this man was abused is a gross understatement. He was tortured, as a child. 

Tortured. He does not use Facebook anymore and would not mind that I am posting this anyway. He's still alive, and that makes me happy. Soon I will go visit him; he lives close by. 

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PADA: The CPO was only formed after we had them sued in 1986, and sued again in 1998. I was in Los Angeles and the leaders there were talking to their lawyers and avoided talking to me like the plague, but victims were talking to me all the time. What happened was, the GBC was being sued for $400,000,000 here, and then they put the worst case people like Bhakti Vidya Purna more forward in Mayapura, and made things way worse. Simultaneously, the GBC launched a $20,000,000 lawsuit against the directors of the biggest free food for kids program in India, trying to have the directors placed in jail so they could shut them down. In other words, while being sued for not feeding their own school kids, they start a lawsuit to make more school kids have no food. 

Later on, their followers complained I cost them $100,000,000 in legal because I helped these cases. In 2001 the Mayapur program folks were asking for funds for kids shoes, but there was a spare $100,000,000 for buying Luis Vuitton suits for lawyers. Meanwhile, my associate was taken out, and I would have been taken out -- unless the FEDS arrested the three enforcers they sent to get me here. Yeah you should write a book about all this, I already helped CBS TV, Rolling Stone Magazine, Monkey on a Stick books and movies, and provided help in various lawsuits etc. As far as I am concerned, the CPO was a window dressing program with evidently little teeth since things got WAY worse in Mayapur after we sued them. ys pd

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Spiritual Diversion at ISKCON: Prioritizing the Institution over Krishna

Within ISKCON there exists a worrying tendency where the organization sometimes eclipses the core spiritual goal: Krishna. This phenomenon is due to institutional alienation and impersonalism, where devotion focuses more on the institution or its leaders than on personal love towards Krishna.

The Institution as a Deity

In certain dysfunctional dynamics, ISKCON becomes the object of faith, usurping divine position. Devotees can see the organization as an omnipotent force, displacing Krishna as the true master. This substitution leads devotees to serve the organization believing it is the same as serving Krishna. Leaders, particularly the GBC, are idolized as infallible authorities, acquiring divine status.

Alienation and Misguided Delivery

This erroneous approach is rooted in alienation, where individuals project their power and responsibility towards external authority. Devotees claim to be devoted to ISKCON out of love for Srila Prabhupada, using this "plausible lie" to avoid necessary critical work. This dynamic of impersonalism turns service into a means of alienation from oneself, where bureaucracy prioritizes depersonalization.
Focus on Institutional Goals over Personal Growth

When ISKCON is the place of worship, organizational goals exceed individual spiritual needs. Productivity is valued over spiritual advancement, redefining individual value according to their service to the institution. This creates a structure where promotion focuses on bureaucratic efficiency, rather than personal development. Thus, unqualified leaders can reach positions of power, consolidating their vision as truth.

In short, prioritizing organization above Krishna deviates the real purpose of spirituality, promoting institutional idolatry rather than personal growth.