Are the ISKCON Leaders Mayavadas or Sahajiyas? 10 04 25

 

PADA: Yeah prabhu, I just had to re-explain all of this to someone. These issues seem to be something a lot of people around ISKCON just cannot understand. My situation here is a little like the original "codes of conduct" given to the Muslims, "do not have sex with your mother." 

That means they did not know -- sex with their mothers -- is wrong behavior. And similarly, I have to keep reminding and telling many of the ISKCON Hare Krishnas, worshiping an illicit sex with men, women and children "chain of gurus from Vaikuntha" is also wrong, because many of them don't know that it is wrong either. In fact many of them think is it offensive for me to say: the GBC's homosexuals and pedophiles posing as messiahs program -- and / or their enablers -- are not -- Krishna's successors. 

Yeah agreed, it could be said that making deviants into acharyas is sahajiya or mayavada. However, the Mayavada sannyasas are strict in their standards, so I would say ISKCON is rather more sahajiya, they are worshiping debauchees as acharyas, as are the sahajiyas. That being said, I do not think the sahajiyas have a big pedophile problem the way ISKCON does, because they too have some sort of standards. At least the sahajiyas have higher standards than ISKCON, because we rarely hear of pedophile problems in their camp.

So when people like GBC folks / Hari Sauri / Sanat / Mukunda / HKC Jaipur / Mathura Pati / Prabhupadanugas EU etc. say PADA is a sahajiya, that is glorification of us sahajiyas. That means me and Sulochana know that worshiping homosexuals and pedophiles as acharyas is wrong, and must be challenged, whereas they think we are wrong to challenge their pedophile guru lover's program. 

And they even said their pedophile guru program is "the golden body of ISKCON" when this all started with this lot in 1998. So yeah, it would not be fair to the mayavadas or sahajiyas to lump them in with ISKCON deviants, who are much lower standard. 

Yep, pedophile guru programs are not even mentioned as a deviation by most religions -- because they assume everyone ALREADY knows that is a deviation without further instructions needed. The fact that PADA has to repeatedly point out that this pedophile messiah's project is a deviation means, these people are lower than the mundane religions where such instruction is not needed. Ever.

*** The GBC does NOT allow demigods photos or images to be placed on the altars, and rightly so. It is not our process. No photos of demigods allowed!

*** Instead, the ISKCON GBC DOES allow placing the photos of conditioned souls on the altars -- photos of people who are sometimes, maybe oftentimes "engaged in illicit sex with men, women and possibly children." 

These odious photos have been allowed, and even violently ENFORCED to be allowed, on Krishna's altars. Photos of DEVIANTS and DEBAUCHEES and even PEDOPHILES are not only allowed, they are ENFORCED to be allowed.

*** OK the photos of degraded debauchees -- including homosexuals and pedophiles -- have been allowed to be posted and displayed on the altars, but not the demigods. 

*** But yeah, conclusion? This means: the GBC people think their degraded, debauchee and even pedophile deviants are more advanced than the demigods. The demigods images are NOT allowed, while the images of degraded debauchees and even pedophiles has been allowed. And ENFORCED to be allowed. 

In sum, their pedophile brotherhood of gurus photos have been allowed, not the images of Krishna's devotees called the demigods. 

*** Now they are having some sort of big meeting with the GBC's bigshots to "preserve the legacy of Srila Prabhupada's mission." Yep, that does mean they think their degraded and fallen people are more advanced than the demigods. Our photos are allowed, demigods are not. Degraded people should have their photos on Krishna's altars, or the persons voted in by the degraded sabha, but not the demigods, and that is the legacy? 

*** This is not what Srila Prabhupada teaches. He says the demigods are very advanced and powerful beings, moreover they are given a higher post of authority because -- they are Krishna's devotees. And it is thus NOT our duty to criticize or minimize the demigods, never mind make homosexuals and pedophiles qualified to be worshiped -- and not these demigods. That means ISKCON is making deviants higher than the demigods. 

Notice: none of this is ever discussed at their "high level meetings" -- evidently. And yeah, Bhakti Vikas swami has been a stalwart supporter of making his homosexual and pedophile pals into gurus and having their photos on the altars with Krishna, so he can contaminate the worship of God with his degraded agenda. 

Summing up, the ISKCON GBC's homosexual and pedophile messiah's club and its cheer leaders are MUCH lower than: mayavadas, sahajiyas, or even the mundane religions in the modes of ignorance -- because none of these religions require a rule -- or written code of conduct -- not -- to worship illicit sex with men, women and children as God's messiahs and successors, they already know that is a deviation with no written codes required. 

So we are dealing with people who are even lower than the modes of ignorance mundane religions, which is why their police, media and courts help me, they know I am right and the GBC clan is not. 

Yep. The worship of demigods is not allowed, whereas worship of homosexuals, pedophiles, drunks, druggies, porno swamis and assorted debauchees has been allowed. That is the legacy of ISKCON? Told ya!

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