Pray to Krishna for guidance,
and He will eventually manifest.
Pray to fools for guidance,
and they will also manifest.
Jvalamukhi Kopecka
My dear followers of Srila Prabhupada, please know that the organization is now the counterfeit. This quote is completely applicable. And the part about " being afraid to speak out against it" applies to both the imitation devil infested organization as well as the reaction to it, the no guru in the name of guru.
PADA: Yes, Jvalamukhi is another one of the "no guru in the name of guru" program persons. She says the ritviks are bogus -- because they at least have some person to worship, namely a pure devotee. Her idea is -- us neophyte people have to "take responsibility" for others -- by being a guru ourselves. Yep, as a matter of fact -- I should advertise that I am another Jesus -- and I can take responsibility for your sins. Not gonna work pilgrims! OK me being a guru is simply another counterfeit.
I am a conditioned being and cannot take anyone's karma, and thus I have to connect myself and others to a pure devotee. She says we cannot advertise a pure devotee as the guru, therefore she has no guru to offer, or worse, she thinks she is taking the post of guru like her mentor Kamra.
The good news is -- almost zero percent of the citizens of the world accept these folks as their guru authority. They cannot attract followers to their no guru program. Yes, she is one of the proponents of the no guru in the name of guru process.
The ritviks at least have a named guru, so they are bogus, but we cannot name our guru, ok we have none. Srila Prabhupada also says a person who does not name their guru has become their own guru.
This is another version of the Kailasa idea, the ritviks are bogus because they have a named and identified person as their guru, thus we need to promote the non-existing phantom -- no name Madhyam -- yep no name, no books, no temples, no devotees, no existence, he is a figment of our imagination only. All glories to nobody!
And we need to offer our bhogha to the non existing no one. These people are mayavadas. Worship of no one and nothing is mayavada and sunnyavada. Srila Prabhupada came to the West to save us from mayavada and sunnyavada, but some refuse to be saved.
Jvalamukhi's brother Mrkanda has argued with PADA that the ISKCON leaders like Mahatma are -- doing great preaching. Ummm nope, Mahatma is one of the biggest cheer leaders of the illicit sex with men, women and children messiah's program -- that bans, beats, molests, sues and kills Vaishnavas. I am not sure how that is great preaching.
Anyway, he blames me for misguiding Jvalamukhi. Nope, she does not consult with me or agree with me on many issues. I sympathize that she is a victim, and that is a fact. However she has clearly had severe misguidance from all sorts of people in her orbit, but we are not one of them.
Of course, PADA gets blamed for just about everything, but that is not always rooted in fact. Anyway if you just look at the tone and tenor of his flame thrower writing, he is another person who got bad direction. Jvalamukhi and he are IMHO by-products of the GBC's information jungle, which can devour victims, and has.
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BM: All glories to Srila Prabhupada. Thank you very much for another fact-finding comment. I do not know her except through the so called Vedic inquirer group.
I understand she was also abused as a youth or child.
I don't know her from the side you posted about. But it is interesting that there are more people following or waiting for an imaginary or non-existent guru.😕🤔
Club Veda Serbia's statements on this are also completely incomprehensible word salad. The other day, or a few days ago, he wrote a post to me, of which I did not understand a word.
They keep using interesting phrases and for some reason "you" need a guru to get in touch with the discipleship chain or something.🤔But who the guru is, or where to look, or what kind of person it has to be, not a word was said or written 😏😕
PADA: Yes, Club Veda Serbia follows Kailasa, and he has said the ritviks are bogus and we need to tell people -- go out and find your own guru. They cannot ever mention this guru's name. That means they cannot find this guru either.
OK they cannot find any guru anywhere, but you have to find him. Same thing as Jvalamukhi. Except she says we need to act responsibly, and be our own guru ourselves. Making ourself the next Jesus is not acting responsibly ... it is called cheating.
OK we have no guru, we cannot find one anywhere, but you need to find one. This is called hypocrisy. I cannot find a million dollars treasure chest under the rainbow, but you have to ...
For its part the GBC also does not name their specific guru. You have to find your own guru, but yeah they have 100 "no objection" gurus to choose from -- who might turn out to be homosexuals, pedophiles, drunks, drug addicts, porno swamis etc. but we do not object to them being our society's gurus. Yet it is still buyer beware, we cannot actually certify that one or any of them are gurus.
OK same thing, we cannot actually name who or whom is actually the guru. The only good news is that we do know they are prone to certify homosexuals, pedophiles and deviants as their gurus from time to time, so it has made their temples empty ghost towns. No one like to "choose their guru" from a group that is known to contain deviants, or a system that enables deviants as gurus.
ys pd
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Kailasa Candra Dasa
December 30, 2024 ·
The Machiavellian T.K.G. commented about the 1979 critics who issued the position paper for the confrontation as follows: “Since the disappearance of our beloved spiritual master, . . . disenchanted persons come forward trying to cast doubt on the legacy left by Srila Prabhupada. When Srila Prabhupada appointed from among his senior disciples eleven persons to continue the process of initiation, and when after their spiritual master’s departure those whom he selected assumed their duties by his command, the critics began to bark their discontent.
"Though they (critics) leveled their remarks against the successor gurus, in reality their criticism was aimed at Srila Prabhupada himself. . . . (They) argue that appointment alone is not a guarantee that one has actually achieved this perfectional stage of life; Prabhupada might have appointed disciples . . . that they might one day achieve the desired realization. To such irresponsible criticism we answer a decisive ‘NO!’ Srila Prabhupada chose them because they merited his confidence.”
Prabhupada merely appointed rittviks.
T.K.G. knew this better than anyone, because he drew up that rittvik appointment document. Indeed, he made that point (against them being appointed gurus) in Topanga Canyon at the Pyramid House talks in early December, 1980. It blew the lid off the scam just a year after this condemnation. With a different vested interest, he here calls his critics barking dogs. He calls himself and the other ten as selected Successors and full-fledged “perfectional” beings!
Does it get more hypocritical than that?
PADA: OK so here Kailasa says there was only an appointment of ritviks or proxies. Then he says the ritvik idea is the bogus "Crypto Christian deviation." He is arguing with his own shadow.
Kailasa does not understand the process, a neophyte cannot take the post of acharya, he has to act as a representative / ritvik. A ritvik or priest is a representative. Kailasa is saying no, we should make conditioned souls or Madhyams into acharyas and not representatives, which is what the GBC says. This is called hypocrisy.
They were only appointed as ritviks, but to say they were only appointed as ritviks, is what the bogus Christian drunk sahajiyas say! Ooops, also what Kailasa says! ys pd
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RAMESVARA UPDATE
Here's just a tiny glimpse into Career Predator Ramesvara's real nature, a direct testimony from one of several Ramesvara survivors:
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August 7, 2023
I understand you are investigating Ramesvara, Robert Grant. Please add my statement to your investigation.
My name is _________Dasi . I attended gurukula in Los Angeles from the age of 7 to 11. I was in Suruchi’s ashrama in the building to the right of the men’s and women’s ashrama. It was 1978 and I was age 7 living in the ashrama with 10 other girls. During the summer months, it was very hot and we would sleep in our underwear and no shirts on top of our sleeping bags.
I clearly remember Ramesvara coming into our bedroom at night when we were sleeping and waking up with him stroking my hair. This happened on several occasions.
I also remember him walking in our bedroom unannounced several times. I had just come out of the shower and was in the bedroom naked getting dressed. Suddenly, Ramesvara, the guru, walked into the bedroom and I had to quickly hide in the closet and put on another girl’s robe.
He had free reign of walking into our ashrama at any given time unannounced and specifically in the middle of the night while we were sleeping. I remember the older girls having breakfast with him in his quarters on Sundays. Ramesvara would also go swimming with the older girls (in their bikinis) and I remember swimming with him in a river in New Varsana in Colorado.
I also remember being called into his quarters and having to read Krsna book and massage his feet. Girls used to sit on his lap as well. I remember feeling very uncomfortable around him and being forced to offer prayers to him and worship him like he was God.
When I was 12 years living in Los Angeles, one of Ramesvara’s disciples named Guru Krsna (Gary Sheridan) who was 28 years old, went to Ramesvara and told him he was interested in getting married. Ramesvara recommended me as a candidate for marriage. So, when I was 12 years he old Guru Krsna asked my parents if he could marry me upon Ramesvara’s recommendation. On my 13th birthday, I was forced to get engaged against my will.
Guru Krsna used to say sexually harassing things to me and told me that I would be sore the first few weeks of marriage from him having sex with me that I wouldn’t be able to walk. Fortunately, after about a year, my parents had a disagreement with Guru Krsna and the engagement was called off.
I have known _______ since I was 6 years old. We lived in the ashrama together in Los Angeles, New Dwaraka and Bhaktivedanta Village. We have been friends for the past 45 years and I have witnessed the turbulent ups and downs of her life.
I remember when we were 14 years, _______ and I were attending Palms Jr. High. I thought that _______ was Ramesvara’s girlfriend because of what I heard people saying and that he was her sugar daddy. I remember hearing that he was taking her shopping to expensive stores and buying her expensive clothes. I saw her wearing new clothes at school all year long.
Due to Ramesvara’s inappropriate behavior and sexual interactions with minors, he should not be allowed to have any position of management, leadership or authority in ISKCON. He shouldn’t be able to give classes, lead kirtans or live on ISKCON property. I feel that we were objects of men’s sexual desires and were always told that we were lusty and that women were maya and that subtle sex was worse than sex itself.
I, _________dasi, do solemnly swear, that this statement is accurate and correct to the best of my knowledge.
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The Life of Gunagrahi Swami: Reflection on Spiritual Integrity.
Gunagrahi Swami, a prominent sannyasi and leader in the Hare Krishna Movement (ISKCON), lived a life of service to Krishna. However, its story also reveals internal struggles and controversial decisions that have broader implications for the Vaishnava tradition.
Gunagrahi Swami joined ISKCON in 1969 and was ordained sannyasi in 1983. For decades, he worked tirelessly to spread Krishna consciousness, founding iconic projects. However, in 2016, while being treated for advanced cancer at Bhaktivedanta Hospital in Mumbai, he publicly confessed to consuming pornographic material for decades, even after becoming a sannyasi and initiating guru.
His death in 2018, surrounded by devotees chanting the mahamantra, was a moment of great emotion. However, his legacy has been marked by controversy. Despite his confession, his disciples and some spiritual leaders insisted on burying him in a samadhi, an honor traditionally reserved for those who have attained a elevated spiritual state or samadhi. This gesture has sparked debate, as samadhi generally symbolizes a life of purity and unwavering dedication.
Their financial activities were also widely questioned, such as the sale of a property in Argentina in collaboration with their protégé Mahajan dasa (Martin), from whose whereabouts of the money obtained is unknown. Some attribute the purchase of a house in Spain to Martin (Mahajana) who has just arrived in Spain.
This controversy reflects a broader problem in certain sectors of the movement. As evidenced by the case of Bhakti Sundar, who has been criticized for his indulgence in too much rich food and pornography, as well as demanding luxuries, some spiritual leaders seem to prioritize appearances over authentic integrity. Such behaviours not only derail the legacy of true saints but also undermine the trust of devotees in the Vaishnava tradition.
Gunagrahi Swami's life reminds us of the importance of honesty and humility on the spiritual path. His confession, though late, was a step toward redemption, but it also left a reminder: true spirituality transcends external titles and circumstances, and it resides in the heart.
Discussion on his samadhi and similar cases like Bhakti Sundar's urges the community to reflect on how to honor spiritual leaders in a consistent manner with the values they preach. In a movement that values purity and renunciation, it is essential that the actions of leaders reflect these principles, not to be discredited of tradition and to maintain the faith of the devotees.
How much damage does it do when the hypocrisy of those we have as representatives of purity is discovered? And, the truth always comes out, sooner or later. We request readers to share their valuable views on sanctifying characters who have not attained a level of samadhi in their daily practice of sadhana Bhakti, for relapsing into breaking celibacy in a foolish or subtle manner, administrative mismanagement, illicit enrichment, exploitation to gullible devotees taking advantage of their investiture and position, child abusers, addicts to luxurious pleasures and pornography, sannyasis with secretaries, etc.
This is probably one of the few spaces where these topics can be aired, normally classified as TABOO.
For example, what do you think about the pushpa samadhi of Kirtanananda is in the courtyard of Radha-Damodar Mandir, one of the major temples in Vrindavan. He is right next to the pushpa samadhis of prominent vaisnavas saints of the past. This is another example of the GBC being asleep at the switch when it comes to maintaining the integrity of the ISKCON society, the holy dham, the sannyasa order etc.
MMD: Jvalamukhi grew up ... thinking she was in a child sacrifice cult. We should not forget ... many parents also part of the problem. How did she get that idea? And where were the parents ... when she was having that idea ... growing in her mind. This came from somewhere.
ReplyDeleteMy lady friend ... her parents had her initiated when she was 12, and she now thinks that guru is a total lusty dog idiot. Then she got married. And her husband's parents insisted ... her boys be initiated by Indradyumna.
Then she saw the trove of strange photos he was taking of little girls and women in bikinis at the beaches. And she did not EVER like his touchy feely with young girls.
Now she is middle aged and she is very disturbed and frustrated ... all these adults steered her into all this. And her boys grew up and are not friendly to the religion now ... and they think Indradyumna is a covered pederast.
So the adults in her life steered her in the wrong direction. The leaders should be held to account ... sure ... but they had many helpers. And these parents were among them. The parents role is almost never discussed ... and that is called the sin of omission. They are part of it, in fact a big part of it.
Whenever we see some mad cult guru person being exposed, we are happy, but we must not forget that guru was surrounded by a fanatical group of foolish groupies.
And he could not have had any power without them helping. Now Jvalamukhi is getting more bad advice from more bad adults. She is part at fault for listening to them. But the shepherd who leads his flock to slaughter is more at fault than the sheep.