ISKCON MAYAPUR GURUKULA STILL NOT SAFE FOR CHILDREN
E Dasi: The current principal was heavily involved in the cover up of my child when his sexual abuse was revealed. This man was like deputy principal or whatever at that time. since he believed sexual content with ongoing physical abuse between a 14 / 15yo and a 6 / 7yo can be consensual, he expelled my son, and suggested to my face that this is just my son's "karma" and lot in life. I’m gonna go with whatever kids are under his care -- are not safe.
PADA: Oh no pilgrims, it is still "your child's bad karma."
FIRE VICTIM HELP NEED
Hare Krsna! Please accept my humble obeisance. ALL GLORIES TO SRILA PRABHUPADA.
A 54 years old devotee, mataji Inessa was living in Pacific Palisades when the recent LA fires started. When the evacuation orders were issued it became apparent that all the residents were in serious danger and could lose their lives if they stayed.
This lady could not leave immediately because she had to help the paraplegic old man and his wife, old woman, to escape the fires which were rapidly approaching.
Because of this and the time which elapsed during this endeavor, she was not able to gather her own belongings. All her belongings along with this and hundreds of other houses in that area were burnt to ashes and nothing remained.
inessagunther@icloud.com
Hare Krishna
May Srila Prabhupada and Lord Sri Krishna guide us in our spiritual journey
Your humble servant,
Balaram Chandra Das
MATHURA PATI UPDATE
PADA: Thanks for your question prabhu. Yes, this Mathura Pati / Mathias Sabji fellow says he agrees 100% with Tamal and the GBC -- "PADA is a liar." He has just become Tamal's new sock puppet. When we said the children are testifying as being starved, beaten, abused and perhaps even -- raped -- then Tamal / the GBC guys / and these guys -- and their pals like Sanat and Mukunda -- came out saying nope, nothing to see here -- it is all PADA's lies.
We should allow all this mass of children abuse to continue, it is all lies! Ditto of the GBC folks, or GBC folks pt. II. Many children victims have told me that calling PADA a liar -- is the exact same as calling us victims liars -- since PADA advocates for and represents these victims. "It is all lies" is what they hear from these GBC fan club members all the time.
Sorry but nope, this is not all lies. Yes, victims were taking their lives. So what, who cares -- all lies! But wait? There are hundreds, or perhaps even thousands, of ex-child victims who all testified they were mistreated. Calling all of us -- me and the victims -- liars is how all of these people enabled all the abuse from square one. Sorry, the child abuse issue is not all "PADA's lies," this is just another GBC regime talking point.
Nor is there any proof some, any, or all of this is PADA's lies. These are all factual events with thousands of testifying agents, and all this has been reported over and over -- even in the mass media, and in many forums -- where victims testify, and we have heard many personal testimony ourselves etc.
Meanwhile, Mathura Pati joins the GBC folks and says this is all lies. He also says that we lied that the HKC Jaipur program defended child abusers by calling us -- and thus also all the victims -- liars. But Mathura Pati then joined with the HKC Jaipur folks himself, and also started calling us liars. He proved that we did not lie, by joining with the same GBC groupie people defending the child abuse regime by discrediting us [and the victims] as liars.
Of course none of these folks ever offers a shred of evidence that any of this is lies. If there is any evidence, why do they never show any? Yep, as soon as anyone says -- children are being starved, beaten, and maybe also raped, then the GBC and their minions like Mathura Pati all combine together with -- the perps, the GBC enablers, the molester messiah's program, and their biggest helpers -- ok people like HKC Jaipur and Mathura Pati ilk etc. -- all come forward to discredit us -- and thus defend -- the abusers -- by calling the children victims and / or their advocates like us -- liars.
Discrediting us simply enables and empowers the perps, abusers and their program, and has all along, and still does to some extent now. Look at the mother's complaint above about the ongoing mess in Mayapur. It is still not being fixed, thanks to all these defenders like Mathura Pati chopping the legs off the protest.
Tamal ALSO said this is all lies. When we said that child mistreatment -- if not child rapes -- needs to be checked and halted, then they ALL COMBINED and attacked us for our trying to stop Krishna's children from being beaten and raped, and tried to discredit all of us as liars.
And then these type folks were evidently infuriated that we helped have hundreds of kids released from GBC's schools and the suicides dropped off. Why is PADA helping children be saved from abuse, which does not even exist, since it is all PADA's lies!
Then their pal Bhakta Peter says, the fact these guys defend child beating and rapes programs is because "Prahlad loves children." Not what the victims are telling us! A number of victims say Prahlad's ilk loves -- child abusers and rapers, and not us victims.
OK then these guys began to cite Radhanath's cheer leaders like Bhakta dasa, Bhavananda's pal Hari Sauri etc. to -- defend their case. Umm yep, they need to cite the cheer leaders of their homosexual pedophile pooja project to prove they are right and PADA is a liar. Why are they in bed with the cheer leaders of the pedophile pooja project?
For his part, Prahlad dasa (Paul Coats) complained the REAL problem is PADA because -- all the innocent people in ISKCON will have to pay the money. OK so child mistreatment programs should continue, including reports of children being raped, all so that Prahlad and his hero gurus can have funds to ride around in big golden Cadillacs with leather cushioned seats.
Poor Prahlad's gurus will now have to ride around in a Toyota Corolla like the rest of us! So he was crying badly, oh no, my favorite homosexual and pedophile guru's program leaders will have to ride in a little Toyota and not a Cadillac! Boo hoo!
OK Prahlad's priority is to save his guru's golden shekels so they can afford another new golden town car every year, and the children -- can just suffer and suck it up -- so these molester messiah project guys can ride around in fancy vehicles. In other words, Prahlad wants to save the Saudi Prince lifestyles of his homosexual and pedophile guru boyfriends, and not stop children from suffering abuse. Victims can be beaten and raped, so Prahlad can sit around and count his golden stolen shekels, and offer nice Cadillacs to his hero pedophile messiahs program.
Anyway! If there are any lies and mistruths in what we are saying -- then why are we getting hundreds of people to join us complaining about the changed books; hundreds more -- or maybe thousands of people -- helping us complain about the child abuse; and hundreds -- and probably thousands of people -- now agree with PADA on the poison issue? If any or all this is lies, where is the proof? And meantime, we get interviewed on a regular basis by book writers and media folks, which is heard by millions of people. Even the media people told me they have their legal team review my stuff to make sure IT IS ALL ACCURATE, or they cannot use it!
Sorry, the proof is -- that our statements and positions are being more and more accepted by more and more folks every single day. And the people who are speaking lies, are the people who wanted to discredit us, to help the bad guys. Even the Berkeley police told me, ALL the people who discredit you are HELPING all these BOGUS GURUS exploit others. They are helping the exploiting continue.
But yeah, it is embarrassing that we have to explain this to anyone, helping a program that starves, beats and rapes children -- by discrediting the whistleblowers -- is not moral even in the karmi world -- and therefore should never be done by so-called Vaishnavas. Yep, I have to tell people this is wrong, and it is another amazing feature of Kali Yuga, people don't even know what is right and wrong, even persons dressed as so-called Krishna bhaktas.
And then they complain the children have a bad attitude towards the religion, well yeah, you made them that way. Several people have wrote to tell PADA that the ritviks need to make some sort of written "code of conduct" that we all approve of, a sort of "This I Believe" document, that all ritviks must sign to be included in the ritvik camp.
For his part Mathura Pati has to be given a lot of credit for being honest. He told an associate that the reason he supports the cheer leaders of his homosexual and pedophile guru program is -- they oppose PADA. That evidently means -- he cannot find anyone except his fellow pedophile worship program supporters to join his campaign. Good admission, only his fellow anal reconstructive surgery epidemic messiahs program cohorts want to challenge PADA. He proved that we are not liars at all, he is with them and he admits that.
Anyway, Krishna fulfils everyone's desires. And there will be some people who want to promote the worship of pure devotees, and there will be some people, especially in Kali Yuga, who want to promote the cheer leaders of homosexual pedophile worshiping programs, and we are free to choose which program we want to support.
Fortunately, we are getting more and more people to write to us all the time saying, they want to be in our camp that worships pure devotees. We are gaining momentum all the time. And the book changes issue, child abuse issue, poison issue, and other issues, are all moving forward with or without these naysayers. And more and more people are being totally disgusted with the pedo guru lover's club, all good progress.
ys pd
angel108b@yahoo.com
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Hare Krsna! Please accept my humble obeisance. ALL GLORIES TO SRILA PRABHUPADA.
A 54 years old devotee, mataji Inessa was living in Pacific Palisades when the recent LA fires started. When the evacuation orders were issued it became apparent that all the residents were in serious danger and could lose their lives if they stayed.
This lady could not leave immediately because she had to help the paraplegic old man and his wife, old woman, to escape the fires which were rapidly approaching.
Because of this and the time which elapsed during this endeavor, she was not able to gather her own belongings. All her belongings along with this and hundreds of other houses in that area were burnt to ashes and nothing remained.
Her work paraphernalia, her clothes, her furniture and all her other possessions were consumed by the raging fire. She was financially and emotionally devastated and could not even think properly for days.
As you may be aware there are some unscrupulous people, who are claiming they need financial support because of these fires. This lady is not one of them. Fortunately one of the people she knows has a house and gave her shelter and a room in which to live, to eight persons including this lady.
So she is taken care of in that regard. But she only escaped with the clothes she was wearing. If anyone would like to help financially this devotee to get her life back together again, that would be greatly appreciated by her. Donations can be sent to her Paypal account:
inessagunther@icloud.com
Her contact email: inessagunther@icloud.com
Hoping this meets all of you in good health, I remain
your servant,
Lila Smarana dd
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SRILA BHAKTISIDDHANTA SARASWATI
As our contaminations are removed by chanting, the Lord’s form, qualities, and pastimes will be revealed to us in the holy name. There is no point in making a separate effort to artificially remember the Lord’s form, qualities, and pastimes. The Lord and His name are one and the same.
your servant,
Lila Smarana dd
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SRILA BHAKTISIDDHANTA SARASWATI
As our contaminations are removed by chanting, the Lord’s form, qualities, and pastimes will be revealed to us in the holy name. There is no point in making a separate effort to artificially remember the Lord’s form, qualities, and pastimes. The Lord and His name are one and the same.
This will be understood clearly when the coverings in your heart are removed. By chanting without offences you will personally realize that all perfections come from the holy name.
Through chanting, the distinction that exists between the self, and the gross and subtle bodies, is gradually effaced and one realizes one’s own spiritual form. Once aware of the spiritual body, as one continues to chant, one sees the transcendental nature of the Lord’s form.
Only the holy name reveals the spiritual form of the living being and then causes him to be attracted to Krishna’s form. Only the holy name reveals the spiritual qualities of the living being and then causes him to be attracted to Krishna’s qualities. Only the holy name reveals the spiritual activities of the living being and then causes him to be attracted to Krsna’s pastimes.
By service to the holy name we do not mean only the chanting of the holy name; it also includes the other duties of the chanter. If we serve the holy name with the body, mind, and soul, then the direction of that service spontaneously manifests like the sun in the clear sky of the chanter’s heart. What is the nature of the holy name? Eventually all these understandings spontaneously appear in the heart of one who chants the holy name.
The true nature of hari-nama is revealed by listening to, reading, and studying the scriptures. It is unnecessary to write anything further on this subject. All these things will be revealed to you through chanting.
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The Lion Guru His Divine Grace Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakur Jagad
By service to the holy name we do not mean only the chanting of the holy name; it also includes the other duties of the chanter. If we serve the holy name with the body, mind, and soul, then the direction of that service spontaneously manifests like the sun in the clear sky of the chanter’s heart. What is the nature of the holy name? Eventually all these understandings spontaneously appear in the heart of one who chants the holy name.
The true nature of hari-nama is revealed by listening to, reading, and studying the scriptures. It is unnecessary to write anything further on this subject. All these things will be revealed to you through chanting.
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The Lion Guru His Divine Grace Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakur Jagad
Guru Prabhupada
From a letter to a disciple
Source: Srila Prabhupadera Patravali, Volume 1.
Originally written in Bengali
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WE ARE DISCIPLES OF PRABHUPADA
Hare Krishna, dear devotees
Originally written in Bengali
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WE ARE DISCIPLES OF PRABHUPADA
Hare Krishna, dear devotees
Pamho. AgtSP.
The topic of initiation has become very controversial, especially after Srila Prabhupada’s departure. The “disciples” who took charge of ISKCON were obviously not qualified to lead and refused their spiritual master’s instructions. That is why there is so much conflict and scandal in ISKCON.
On a personal note, I was fortunate to be born in a South Indian Brahmin family and have been a devotee from birth. In Brahmin families the biological father is also the spiritual master, I received my upanayanam when I was 19 and was initiated to chant the Gayatri Mantra by my father!
The patriarch of my family is Bhrigu Muni, mentioned widely in Vedic Scriptures and especially the Srimad Bhagavatam. To him appeared Mata Lakshmi, Sri Krishna’s consort as his daughter, that is why she is also known as Bhargavi.
Some of the great descendants of Bhrigu are :
Some of the great descendants of Bhrigu are :
1. Chyavana ( famous for his elixir Chavanprash)
2. Aapnavana, the sage who formalized fire sacrifices and created their methods and rituals.
3. Aurava, the sage who defeated the inimical Kshatriyas by just his effulgence as a new born baby!
4. Jamadagni, the sage who is considered one of the Sapta Rishis, in the Vivasvata Manvantara (current reign of vaivasvata manu). Lord Parushurama, the sixth avatara of the Supreme Lord, appeared as a son to Jamadagni and his wife Renuka!
5. Markandeya Rishi, famous for getting the audience and mercy of Lord Shiva and Lord Vishnu. Also for his Markandeya Purana!
6. Shaunaka Rishi, famous in the Srimad Bhagavatam for his discourse with Suta Muni.
7. Sri Vallabhacharya, a great Vaishnava Saint in the Rudra Sampradaya, also known as the Vishnuswami Sampradaya and the Vallabhacharya Sampradaya.
With that said, I had been interested in Vedic Scriptures since birth and when I came across Srila Prabhupada’s Bhagavad Gita, which I received as a gift from a devotee at the St. Louis airport, I was hooked.
With that said, I had been interested in Vedic Scriptures since birth and when I came across Srila Prabhupada’s Bhagavad Gita, which I received as a gift from a devotee at the St. Louis airport, I was hooked.
I had been reading Srila Prabhupada’s books for nearly 7 years, before I was convinced to visit an ISKCON temple and meet devotees! That is when I was introduced to Giriraj Swami by some devotee friends, in LA.
I waited 6 more years before I took initiation to chant the Maha Mantra from Giriraj Swami. I did not take my second initiation as is the practice in ISKCON, since I was already initiated at 19!
My take on all this “Initiation Fuss” is to just associate with Srila Prabhupada by:
1. Following his instructions to hold true to the 4 regulative principles.
2. Chant a minimum of 16 rounds daily.
3. Study his books.
2. Chant a minimum of 16 rounds daily.
3. Study his books.
If we do this regularly with sincerity, Srila Prabhupada and Lord Sri Krishna will guide us! I fully believe in this!
Srila Bhaktisidhanta Sarswati Prabhupada, personally took his Sanyas initiation by placing a picture of his spiritual master Gaurkishore Das Babaji and took the vows of a Sanyasi!!
So, my dear devotees, don’t get into the minutiae of rituals and processes of initiation. Just have faith in Srila Prabhupada and he will initiate you through his Vani!!!
Hare Krishna
May Srila Prabhupada and Lord Sri Krishna guide us in our spiritual journey
Your humble servant,
Balaram Chandra Das
JD: Ignorance and fools always cause trouble to Vaishnavas. We have to learn to tolerate ... and continue with our service. Srila Prabhupada has the same ignorance foolishness from his so-called God brothers.
ReplyDeleteHe tolerated ... and so should we. The dogs will bark but the caravan goes on. Srila Prabhupada says the rascals causing trouble to the Vaishnavas are causing trouble to Krishna ... and they will get their just reward later.
"Tolerance means that one should be practiced to bear insult and dishonor from others. If one is engaged in the advancement of spiritual knowledge, there will be so many insults and much dishonor from others. This is expected because material nature is so constituted. Even a boy like Prahlāda, who, only five years old, was engaged in the cultivation of spiritual knowledge, was endangered when his father became antagonistic to his devotion. The father tried to kill him in so many ways, but Prahlada tolerated him. So, for making advancement in spiritual knowledge, there may be many impediments, but we should be tolerant and continue our progress with determination."
Bhagavad-gita As It Is (1972) : Bg 13: Nature, the Enjoyer, and Consciousness : Bg 13.8
M Dasi: All bogus cult people call us liars. Not new to ISKCON. Unfortunates who spoke truths in middle ages ... got burnt at the stake.
ReplyDeleteAindra says powers that be will burn him at the stake ... if he speaks out ... and he was burnt to death. Thats how bogus cults deal with truth speakers. Jesus was also another truth speaker ... they could not tolerate him ... either.
Cult people and powers that be cannot defeat us ... so they call us liars. That means ... they are defeated ... and they can only use insult and name calling ... to defend their own lies.
These kids were mistreated and badly ... this is no lie. We were also mistreated and badly ... also no lie. Anyone who defends them has to lie ... to make pretend there is no problem. There is a problem ... and they are part of that problem.
AMD: More fanatics. Promoting themselves. It is sad ... no ability to work with others. The Purujit and Mathura only look like friends with each other ... because everyone else is their enemy. They have a tiny self promoting clique only.
ReplyDeleteNote: they never try to consult with other Vaishnavas. Mavericks.
They are not helping the cause of promoting Prabhupada ... but they are making it harder to promote Prabhupada ... making it look like ... his followers are bat sh*t crazy people ... or even worse ... still hanging onto GBC ideas.
But it is better to know what they are really up to ... than to be in illusion they are real Prabhupada men. They are into themselves. Self manifested.
GG Dasi: Anyone who has to hide behind Bhakta dasa ... and let him speak for Mathura Pati behalf ... lost before he started. Bhakta das has a long criminal past. He has been supporting GBC gurus. And he associates with GBC people ... all the time. He has said offensive things to my ritviks friends.
ReplyDeleteThis proves the Mathura Pati group are still connected to GBC gurus and anti-ritviks. Bhakta dasa is a GBC compromised. If he is your spokesman, you lost. Bhakta thinks the ritviks are bogus.
If he is your spokesman, you are still with GBC gurus. I had to leave them a long time ago when I discovered all the child molesting going on. Bhakta thinks all this is fine and "solid preaching." No ... it is a horror movie for these children. They are just trying to paint a happy face on dangerous criminals. Why aren't all of them in jail?
PADA: Yes DK, it is rather amazing that the only people on the planet these Mathura Pati / Prahlad / HKC Jaipur people can find to oppose PADA are the cheer leaders of a homosexual and pedophile guru process, that reportedly -- starves, beats and molests kids. And murders dissenters.
ReplyDeleteIt does appear that they have to kiss those jack boots to garner any support at all. No other devotees support objecting to saving children from abuse.
You are right, that appears to say it all about their real agenda. No bona fide Prabhupadanuga would EVER kiss the jack boots of a homosexual and pedophile guru program to get support, yep again you are right. If they have changed their view and policy, they have never sent me any messages to say so. But neither do the GBC people.
Anyway, anyone is free to message me with their concerns, objections or corrections to: angel108b@yahoo.com
And lets see what evolves. ys pd
SD Dasi: Still! Not safe for kids in Mayapur you say? Kids getting bad karma you say? Who in their right mind would send any kid there, or go there at all. Boycott that place! It is like going to a haunted house with real demons inside.
ReplyDeleteIt is always interesting to me ... the people who save children from getting beat up and raped ... are the demons of ISKCON. These ISKCON heads are really sick minded. A person who saves children from abuse needs to be REWARDED and not PENALIZED.
They are sick! Whole lot! I would almost say ... I am done with them ... but I have to warn other people about them as my civic duty to humanity. Watch out! Not fixed the problem in Mayapur, no wonder, look how they treat the people who try to fix this.