ISKCON New Vrindaban Venkata Suicide (Anuttama Das Update)

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Venkata prabhu's suicide (New Vrindaban).

PADA: According to a letter from (ISKCON GBC spokesman) Anuttama das, the most likely "real reason" for the suicide is that Venkata had been engaged in some sort of "inappropriate phone calls" with a teen aged girl from the congregation. The mother of the girl was consulted and an investigation was launched. 

And the issue was taken seriously and was thus reported to the West Virginia police authority (as some sort of criminal cyber stalking)? Malati was involved and some sort of CPO (Child Protection Office of ISKCON) process was also launched. Bravo! "Day late and a dollar short," but hey something is WAY better than nothing.

First of all I'd like to repeatedly say -- BRAVO -- for reporting things like this to the police authority -- and getting some sort of legal handle on this type of behavior. Its something we have tolerated and tolerated -- to the peril of the society and the children of the society. If we do not protect our children, ok there is no society. Its worse than cats and dogs -- who at least try to protect their off spring from malefic attacks. 

So this Venkata fellow was not actually so much a victim of New Vrndavana mis-managing, at least apparently. Rather he seems a victim of his own devices, and he maybe thought ISKCON was like "the good ole days" when these behaviors were overlooked and tolerated. And so he commits suicide with a deity of Lord Narasimgha, like the Lord is going to protect him from malefic acts involving apparently -- attempts at contaminating the minds of children? 

Well maybe the Lord will protect, but I'd not count on it. 

Every day various ISKCON folks are preaching to little children that God's successors are often debauchees, so they are contaminating the minds of little children left, right and center. Maybe the Lord will be upset people are using His images to conduct such foul behaviors -- and then expecting Him to bail them out? Or maybe Krishna will take these false guru programs to the lowest regions of hell, along with the promoters? At least that is what shastra says will be the result. 

Then again, if Venkata is worshiping an illicit sex guru parampara, maybe that will contaminate him and get him to "become what we worship." He is a victim of his own pooja, it contaminates people? At the same time I wish Venkata well, he is partly a victim of the GBC policy to promote a debauchee guru parampara. If we worship a debauchee's guru parampara, then we become debauchees ourselves, why would anyone be surprised?  

Perhaps he thought his suicide was the best way forward, considering he had committed an evil deed. Or perhaps he was committing suicide because he realized he had been caught with his hands in the cookie jar, and he was not really repentant, just upset he got caught? Who knows. Anyway, there is more good news than bad here, we need to have people understand this behavior is not going to continue to fly under the radar forever.

And that is also why over the years we have had to address the Sanat / Mukunda / Prahlad / Krishna Kirtan / Dayalu Nitai's HKC Jaipur folks and their pals like Michael Keith Powell, who all complained as soon as they found out their favorite child buggery messiah's process was being squashed by a karmi lawyer who drinks Johnny Walker and wears snakeskin Texas boots. Yep, a Texas lawyer had to tell these guys we cannot promote worship of a child molesting guru process, evidently they did not know that was wrong?  

As soon as their wonderful "anal reconstructive surgery of little boys process" was being contained, these guys all screamed like stuck pigs (along with their GBC pals). You mean our anal busting program's worship is going to be contained! That's offensive prabhu! Why we were just getting started with our butt busting process, and some guy in Texas is putting the kabash on our program? Forsooth!

You mean now -- we won't have more and more, and more and more, of our children get molested and then hanging themselves and shooting themselves in the head? How can we be happy when we cannot get more of our children's blood on our army tank treads? Even the police told me that, these people (your opponents) want to drink your blood -- and these children's blood. That is why shastra says there are man eating -- blood drinking -- demons. And its always been a problem for them when someone exposes them -- and for the past billions of years.

Then Krishna Kanta Desai and his IRM people ALSO complained that the child buggery messiah's process is getting contained. Yep, how can we have all sorts of nice child molesting and suicides of victims going on -- when PADA is trying to halt our nice process? Then they pretend to wonder why there has been molesting going on, according to one of the victims "in every nook and cranny"? And subsequent suicides of victims? Umm, maybe all these GBC ilk and the assorted jack booters defenders of that process have had something to do with keeping that odious process going on, and on, and on, ad infinitum?

Of course this begs the question, why do the police, courts, media, FBI etc. have to solve issues in these guys own society in the first place? Why are they not fixing it? My devotee friends in Texas are right now out there loudly protesting the law that we all have to be wearing virus masks, all going on at big Texas rallies right now. Great stuff! Except? Where were all these big tough freedom fighting protesters when all the crap was coming down the pipeline in ISKCON? 

So now FINALLY! Someone is ACTUALLY going to the ACTUAL police to report ACTUAL problems! Its a huge step forward! Historic even! Rambouru was brought in to "counsel" people. Hey Rambouru, your husband Prithu has been among the biggest cheer leaders of the worship of illicit sex with men, women and children acharya's program. 

When we gave Prithu (Peter Brinkman) a booklet about how we need to worship Srila Prabhupada, and not worship his child buggery messiah's program, he ripped up our booklet and the photo of Srila Prabhupada on the cover. And then he tossed our booklet on the ground and stomped on Prabhupada's photo with his feet. OK he hates it when his buggery messiahs program is being challenged. 

And he also hates Srila Prabhupada, which is why he rips up his photo and stomps on his photo with his shoes. Yep, this is not a photo of the leaders of the child buggery messiah's project, we don't need a photo of the pure devotee! We hate that photo! Stomp on it!

And you folks are going to "counsel" people about how they need to be loving, tolerant and patient with this messed up process? Why aren't you folks telling people we need to jettison this process, and all the people leading it? Like for example Bhakti Charu swami? Nope, Prithu is saying we need to pray for the leaders of the child buggery messiah's process leaders -- like Bhakti Charu swami. 

Even now Prithu is praying to keep his buggery messiah's project's leaders afloat, and we need to counsel people to be tolerant and loving to these people -- whose program is destroying ours and Srila Prabhupada's children? And has been destroying them all along? 

And! 

We need to save the buggery messiah's process and its leaders? And then, when there is a buggery problem in every nook and corner, we cannot understand how that happens? We become what we worship, and if we worship the leaders of a buggery messiahs program, we become that process ourself. And so we need to pray that God saves -- the buggery messiah program's leaders? And that is why a devotee recently told me he would rather attend a SATANIC worship church than a GBC church, because he would feel that his children are in better hands there.   

And then our good old pal Varshana swami comes out to say we all need to focus on the teachings of Jesus to understand all this. OK and when we said people should worship Jesus and Srila Prabhupada, the New Vrndavana goondas were chasing me with baseball bats. We love Jesus, but we chase his bogus ritvik followers to beat them to death? And he is another "counsellor" over here? We love Jesus, but despise his followers?

Anyway, we thought there was more to this story than was initially speculated. I am sorry that this guy had to die. Yet, if we do not contain these problems, our whole society will die. ys pd 

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Prayer Request for Cetanarahita Das

Dear Devotees: With a very heavy heart I humbly ask the Vaishnava community to please pray for my husband Cetanarahita Das. He has been having abdominal cramps, diarrhea and nausea for the past 4 weeks and finally went to the ER last night. We are told that he has colon cancer that metastasized to the liver and lymph nodes. 

Further testing is under way to get a complete picture of the extent of his disease. He is a very humble, steadfast and sincere Vaishnava. PLEASE pray fro him so that this will have a good outcome. Please also pray for the rest of the family. We are all in shock and trying to process the news. My sincere thank you to all of you who will pray and send good vibes our way. Thank you!

[PADA: Not a good prognosis. Another devotee who has got cancer, which is something that should have been declared an ISKCON Vaishnava epidemic ten years ago when many cases were sprouting up then -- left, right and center. 

Not a medical expert here, but cancer that has spread to other organs is generally not a good outcome. Anway we hope for the best for this fellow. 

It is our belief that the GBC's gurus are NOT capable of taking other people's karma. At the same time -- promoting worship of GBC false gurus IS FOR SURE creating bad karma -- even for the side show observers, implicated by omission of objecting. That is -- in part -- why we believe, there has been an ongoing cancer / fatal ailments crisis in the ISKCON environment. 

Maybe this person is not part of the GBC process, but I'd like to see evidence of that. Of course even devotees who are not directly in the GBC process are being malefically effected in any case, because "the troubles" extend out to others. Just like Krishna told Arjuna, even sitting under a tree will not separate you from the battle. 

Anway! There is a root cause for all this, and non-resolution of karma is most likely part of it, at least in our not too humble opinion. Anway, again we say -- hope for the best, but in our experience "praying" alone does not always correct these situations in and around ISKCON. Praying, and NOT correcting the channeling of Karma RETURN back to sender, or onto bogus people, is not going to be a process that functions well. 

No wonder also that there are so many devotees who dislike the "bogus ritvik Christians," they are apparently doing a heck of lot better with their longevity, because at least they have some sort of bona fide channel to absolve sins. ys pd]  

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Bhakti Vikas Swami Attacks the Writings of Srila Prabhupada (Again)

Bhakti Vikas Swami Countered on Book Change BY: BHAKTA TORBEN 

[PADA: Bhakti Vikas swami thinks "having once been" is not correct because we jeeva souls are supposedly beginningless. Except -- he does not know how, if, or when our jeeva souls either began or did not begin. He is speculating. 

If Krishna at one time "created" the jeevas to serve Him, then there may have been a time we were brought into our jeeva soul's existence, we really have no means of investigating this one way or the other. At the same time, this is really splitting hairs on a miniscule point that can never be either proven or disproven. We simply have no idea how and when Krishna created anything, including us jeevas. Its speculating. 

So the real goal is for Bhakti Vikas swami to create doubts about the validity of Srila Prabhupada's works.

I am still having a hard time figuring out Torben's position. He agrees with Bhakti Vikas swami, we cannot worship a pure devotee because that is the bogus Christian idea. OK fine! Then -- they cannot tell us who else to worship instead? 

If people do not even know the basic points of "who or whom" to offer the bhogha and disciples to, they really have not got a basic grasp of the siddhanta. At least the "bogus ritviks" know, we have to offer the bhogha and the disciples to the pure devotee, that is the process from time immemorial. Worship of the pure devotee is the bogus Christian idea, ummm, where is this stated? 

Of course that makes the Christians bogus -- because they say grace to Jesus, and make Jesus their guru. How bogus is that, they will only worship a pure devotee! Very bogus indeed! 

Anyway! Did this "time immemorial" have a starting point where us jeevas came into being, its really not relevant is it? And its certainly not provable one way or other? God created everything -- including the jeevas. "When" was this all created? No one can say for certain, its beyond our capacity to figure out, and its an exercise in futility to speculate on this issue. BVKS is simply saying this to DISCREDIT -- and have people lose faith in -- THE ORIGINAL BOOKS of the acharya. 

Anyway, give credit to Torben here, he is right. Their living gurus are speculators and persons trying to change the words of pure devotees, and discredit the books. And lets not forget! Trying to discredit the shastra. Agreed! 

Worse, Bhakti Vikas swami is one of the favorites of Hanuman Croatia. Yep, anyone who tries to invalidate the books of the acharyas is a person they want to promote. Then they wonder why we are not in support of their process? You came into being because Krishna created your being. "When" did this happen? Not relevant, its just BVKS creating a tempest in a tea cup so he can attack the books of the acharya. 

ys pd 

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In a new Youtube spot Bhakti Vikasa Swami addresses the "ISKCON" change to Bhagavad-gita As It Is 2.20. He thinks it may be all right to change it. 

The response to this careless change is already given in a 2015 'Blazing Edit' segment, reprised below: "Having Once Been is Correct"  BY: BHAKTA TORBEN Dec 26, 2015

Bhagavad.gita As It Is, 2.20: Original, authorized 1972 edition: "For the soul there is never birth nor death. Nor, having once been, does he ever cease to be. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing, undying and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain." 

Original, authorized 1968 edition: "For the soul there is never birth or death. Nor, having once been, does he ever cease to be. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing, undying, and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain." 

Srimad Bhagavatam 7.7.18 purport: "For the soul there is never birth nor death. Nor, having once been, does he ever cease to be. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing, undying and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain."  

Caitanya-caritamrita Madhya-lila 19.138 purport: "For the soul there is never birth nor death. Nor, having once been, does he ever cease to be. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing, undying and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain." 

Visnujana reading aloud to Srila Prabhupada, Seattle 1968: "For the soul there is never birth or death. Nor, having once been, does he ever cease to be. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing, undying, and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain." 

Devotee reads aloud to Srila Prabhupada, 1973 London: "For the soul there is never birth nor death. Nor, having once been, does he ever cease to be. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing, undying and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain." 

Pusta-krishna reads aloud to Srila Prabhupada, Paris 1974: "Translation: For the soul there is never birth nor death. Nor, having once been, does he ever cease to be. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing, undying and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain." 

Draft / so-called manuscript: "For the soul there is no birth, nor death either, at any time. Neither does he come into being, nor will he cease to be. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing, and never dies, not even after the annihilation of body." 

'JAS It Is': "For the soul there is neither birth nor death at any time. He has not come into being, does not come into being, and will not come into being. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain." 

It is argued by highly respected senior devotees that the sentence 'having once been' indicates a beginning of the soul and therefore, since the soul is eternal and beginningless, this is a mistake and can therefore rightly be edited out. 

Is that true? Well, it certainly seems so. On the 'logical' surface. But there is another dimension to it. Please take a look here: Chandogya Upanisad 6.2.1: "Sa eva suameyedam agra asid ekam evadvityam tad aikshata bahu syam prajaeya." 

"O gentle one, in the beginning was the Supreme, who was one without a second. 

He thought: Let me become many. Let me become the father of many." In 1966 in New York Srila Prabhupada spoke these words in a lecture to his students: "So we have, we have been created in that way. Eko bahu syama. God has become many. This is also version of the Vedas that many, all these many, we are also God. 

Just like the fire diffuses its sparks. The sparks coming out of the fire, it is the..., they are also part and parcel of the fire. Similarly we, we are all parts and parcels of the Supreme. Now, He wanted to become many. He wanted to become many, so He has become many, and we are that many." 

"We are not different from God, but because He wanted to become many, so we have become many. Now, thing is, when God wanted to become many, there must be some purpose behind this. Otherwise, why did He like to become many? 

"He was one, one without second. That's all right. But why did He become many?" I think you get the point. You can find more evidence here for the fact that an eternal individual soul can have a beginning here. 

So apparently there is a 'start' to the individual soul, the amsa, the part and parcel. We are of course in the realm of Acintya-sakti, the very difficult to understand - realm. But nonetheless, these are words of Srila Prabhupada and sastra. Scholars more learned than me can purport and elaborate on this subject. But even as a neophyte and layman I think I can safely conclude that Srila Prabhupada's use of the words, 'Having once been' in verse 2.20 is completely BONA FIDE. 

And informative. A hint now rubbed out by the present day ISKCON edition of the Acarya's most important book. It is wrong to take out these words. And it collides with cross-references in Srimad Bhagavatam and Caitanya-caritamrita. And historic lectures. 

The so-called manuscript which His Grace Hari Sauri prabhu refers to in the above video is but a draft, a working paper. It has NO authority over the 1972 edition. How can something be beginningless and STILL have a beginning? Well, isn't that our philosophy? Acintya bheda abheda tattva. Oneness and difference at the same time. Mysterious. But according to Guru, Sadhu and Sastra. 

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ISKCON Zagreb/ Hanuman Croatia / Kailash Chandra / Bhakti Vikas swami

Another fine mess you made!

Response by Bhuta Bhavana das

Bhuta Bhavana das sent the following response to Divya Prabandha, which, of course, will not change anything, because we are talking about the Gestapo here, and Gestapo is not rational. But it sheds a light on the whole situation:

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My prabhu, you were suspended twice and now that you finally became an officer you are suspending others. It is interesting how this represents the pinnacle of your hypocrisy: you first kick out people from the movement and then you ask them: “What are they doing with their spiritual life”. Same stupid question that you are asking me now, I was asked by Suvarna Bindu two months ago: “Who is that bearded guy (Kailash Chandra) and what is his practice?” 

That bearded guy was secretary in the GBC in the eighties (he is Srila Prabhupada’s twice initiated disciple) who had manuscripts of black and dirty conversations of eleven self-proclaimed mahabhagavatas with Gaudiya Math who pushed out a big lie less than 10 years after Srila Prabhupada left this world. 

After that, he was the editor of Sulocana’s book, and the first one who wrote a paper against the Rtviks, and then one Swami from ISKCON, Tripurari, asked him if they could take his version and integrate it into their own ISKCON version of the story against rtviks. Actually, they made another concoction. Your knowledge of history is not proper.

[PADA: This is apparently the correct history. Kailash Chandra has been writing exactly what the bogus GBC and Gaudiya Matha's Sridhara Maharaja say, we need to worship a living guru and we cannot worship a departed (posthumous) person aka Krishna's eternal pure devotee. Yep, if there is one thing we cannot have, its people worshiping the pure devotees! That's a giant no no!

We are having this same problem right now with a devotee who has recently "rejected the local GBC guru." Ooops! Yet he is still arguing with PADA that our Prabhupadanuga idea is "a guru in the air." OK fine, he is just like Rocana / Kailash / Hanuman Croatia / Torben etc. and has rejected the GBC's gurus, Gaudiya Matha's gurus, and our Prabhupadanuga idea as "the Christian idea" therefore -- who is this guys' guru? 

Yep, total stumped the guy. He has not replied. No kidding, there is no "good reply" when one cannot even identify -- who is one's guru? We have a guru in the air, ok we at least have one somewhere, but he has a guru in -- nowhere at all, neither air, land, sea or outer space? OK his guru does not exist.

Kailash says our Prabhupadanugas have the bogus "posthumous guru" Christian idea. And therefore no one should worship our so-called departed pure devotee, we need to worship various "living" conditioned souls (as the Gaudiya Matha does). So its sort of like the Christian idea of -- awaiting the second coming, fine except what if there is no second coming? And who do we worship in the meantime while we await the second coming? Nobody knows? 

Then, the GBC's folks (like Trivrikrama swami et al.) loved Kailash's "posthumous Christian" idea -- and thus these GBC folks began circulating Kailash Chandra's writings inside ISKCON. Evidently Tripurari swami also enjoys this position, because he is part of the Sridhara Maharaja group as one of their gurus. Did I forget to mention that the "living gurus" in various of these programs are sometimes debauchees, homosexuals, sexual predators and deviants?

So this has been the argument of the living guru folks all along, no one is allowed to worship the "departed" pure devotees, we have to worship either their concocted gurus, or even worse -- worship no one. Of course Hanuman Croatia worships Radhanath's best friends like dead and gone carcass Sridhara Swami, a certified "voted in" members of the pedophile guru lineage. 

Hanuman also promotes Bhakti Vikas swami, a person who just now says that the book changes issue is "very complicated." And he gives some rambling mumbo jumbo explanation of one verse from the Gita to make it appear complex. That makes it harder for people to accept and read these books. Umm its complex, well it is --- for these guys.] 

Back to the subject: you are pushing a method which is not actually Srila Prabhupada’s method and we have all the evidence which give exactly opposite examples, in the conversations and letters, where some temple presidents GBC men asked Prabhupada if the can throw somebody out of the temple, but Prabhupada didn’t allow it. What to speak of throwing somebody out of the institution. Do I need to send you quotes?

[PADA: Right. Anyone who worships Prabhupada is subject to being kicked out, and Kailash is encouraging that process by saying our Prabhupadanuga devotees are bogus ritviks (so kick them out). Thus Kailash is the sort of like the behind the scenes writer / helping along handmaiden / of the GBC's anti-Prabhupada worship process, just like various Gaudiya Matha folks also ghost wrote papers for the GBC. Even Gaura Govinda Maharaja was ghost writing papers for the GBC. So these GBC "position paper" writing folks are always on hand to help the regime. 

Sulochana said these "scholarly writers" are the sort of Joseph Goebbels types who write for Hitler, and then their documents are circulated in the GBC camp to pour gasoline on the poor Prabhupada folks. Sulochana said, a successful Hitler has to have a powerful master manipulating writer like Joseph Goebbels, doing the behind the scenes propaganda writing. 

And Kailash writes papers that the GBC folks agree with and distribute. Then the followers of Kailash think they are doing something different from the GBC. Nope. Same identical process, do not worship the pure devotee, its the bogus Christian deviation! Of course, we have a pocketful of neophytes and deviants you CAN worship.] 

And after Srila Prabhupada left, when the time came to say one plus one equals two in the form of bitter truths: then thousands of devotees similar to Kailasa Candra were kicked from the movement and the good part of which went to Maya.

[PADA: Partially correct. Kailash was kicked out for saying that the Zonal Gurus took more worship than they should have, but he still believes immature devotees can pose as diksha gurus, which is why the GBC likes his program. Its the same idea as theirs. And this is also why Hanuman Croatia likes Kailash -- they all believe that conditioned souls can absorb sins like Jesus and everything is going to work out fine if we adopt that principle. Exactly what the GBC has said since 1978.] 

And the rest of them who stayed silent and bought the dogma automatically became degraded, stepped down from madhyama adhikari level and became bogus sahajiyas. 

[PADA: For some odd reason Kailash keeps making a reference to madhyama level gurus, but deviants -- and the people who support deviants as gurus -- are not qualified madhyama platform. Even neophytes do not promote deviants as acharyas. Of course this explains why these folks are always attacking "the bogus Christians" because the Christians refuse to worship neophytes and deviants as their guru. Worse, the "bogus Christians" police and FBI saved me from being assassinated by the GBC's / Kailash's living guru process.]  

Such silence doesn’t have anything to do with satyam. And horizontal spread of the international movement, by looking at the external aspects through quantity is not a proof of sincere Krishna consciousness. For example, FDG issue is just a distraction from what is a true problem.

[PADA: Yep, every time we turn around there is one after another new crisis problem with these maverick, out of touch and out of control gurus. Kailash's apa-siddhanta twin Rocana says rubber stamping gurus is not the problem, we just need to have tighter enforcement of making sure these gurus follow GBC rules and stay on track. That means he admits his gurus may (probably will?) deviate and need correcting. How do we correct the guru? And if gurus need correcting, why would anyone follow them in the first place?] 

After Srila Prabhupada left the world, as soon as his disciples introduced the Zonal acarya imposition, this turned out the ventilator from the power outlet (in this case it disconnected the movement from the parampara), and it seems that propeller is still running (due to accumulated spiritual potency which was brought in by Prabhupada throughout all these years). 

[PADA: This is another odd complaint we hear all the time from Rocana / Kailash / GBC types "we had in the past the Zonal guru deviation." Nope, the GBC's gurus still have geographical zones NOW, and have had zones all along. Every year at Mayapur the "Zones" of the Zonal gurus are delineated, and this has been the case since 1978. Jayapataka for example has had the Zone of Mayapur the whole while, this has never changed.]

But, propeller is now almost stopped. ISKCON in an apa-sampradaya.

[PADA: There was some initial momentum in 1978 that kept the movement going for some time, but now, the spinning propeller is slowing and stopping. Correct.]

Now, let’s clear one thing, Adhata das called me 4 days ago, and he personally asked me about Kailasa Candra, because he heard about him somehow. I don’t know how. He asked me three times that he wants to hear his lecture. 

After I gave him a few presentations by Kailasa Candra, he reported it in, and here comes Devarsi Narada after one or two days, big promotor of lies and overestimated imaginations, he comes in defending Adhata and making fabrication of this letter that I am sending this to other devotees. 

I sent this letter only to Adhata because he asked me. I never pushed anything to anybody. And this Adhata guy now blocked me, telling me not to write to him anymore. Poor guy, depressed and scared from the obvious dark reality, or from presentation I gave him before the video.

What is this “heavy preaching” accusation? Devarsi needs to be replaced, or even better, for the benefit of all people of the Zagreb city, close that house of show programs and stop this overlordship. Get out and distribute books.

Such lying from the same temple president who is serial divorcee, he beat up the first wife, and had children with both wives. Now he is divorced again, and as a reward, he has the status of the temple president. 

I congratulate you. Are you naturally stupid or you received training? I kept this within myself for a long time. and now I am opening my mind because I don’t understand how you allowed such a compromise. And even worse mutation happened when Vedanta Krit slept in the women’s quarters, and Devarsi and Suvarna allowed that to happen. 

All that is not important, but Bhuta Bhavana has to go out for a psychiatric treatment with another serial divorcee, who is also a main preacher in ISKCON Zagreb. Maybe he will give me one of his massage girls to massage my anarthas out of my body so that I will forget all the offences that I made. 

[PADA: Yes, we posted some articles previously from a woman who was complaining how women are being exploited and mistreated in that area. A serial divorcee should not be placed in charge of the women, there is going to be trouble from such a character, and that is simply common sense.]

And Devarshi now has to guts to punish people and throw out those who quote Prabhupada on the Vanipedia board, making a conclusion that I am speaking against Srila Prabhupada by quoting Srila Prabhupada. And Bhakti Vikasa Swami writes me in the letter “association of great devotees in ISKCON Zagreb”. This is too much. Let the whole movement go to hell.

[PADA: Yes, an apparent serial divorcee, woman beater, has children from various women etc., sounds like a low life person that the GBC has selected as their manager there. And Bhakti Vikas swami says, this is great association? So he is endorsing these people as leaders and good association. And BVKS just made a rambling video about books changes, saying the books need changing. A young couple told me -- BVKS is trying to get people to lose faith in the books -- thinking they are contaminated and faulty. And this is Hanuman and Patita Pavana dasa's "great example of preaching"? People should now doubt the shastra? ys pd] 

Kailash Chandra das

A) Worship GBC's gurus? Bogus!

B) Worship Gaudiya Matha's gurus? Bogus!

C) Worship Jesus? Bogus posthumous worship!

D) Worship Prabhupada? Bogus Christian idea! 

E) Who is left to listen to and offer our bhogha to? Kailash Chandra? 

F) Therefore, let me write "scholarly position papers" to be used and distributed by -- the bogus GBC's gurus?

Fighting you own shadow? Heh heh heh! 

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PADA: Wowsers pilgrims! 

Disappearance of Sri Gadadhara Pandita (FAST TILL NOON)

Disappearance of Sri Gadadhara Pandita (FAST TILL NOON)

Sri Gadadhara dasa Thakura previously lived at Navadwip. When the Lord went to live at Nilacala Sri Dasa Gadadhara also there to be with Him. Later on Mahaprabhu sent him back with Nityananda Prabhu to preach in Bengal. He first stayed at Eriyadahagram, which is situated on the banks of the Ganges. Then he spent some time in Navadwipa, taking care of Saci Mata and Visnupriya, but after their disappearance he came to live at Katwa, where Mahaprabhu had accepted sannyasa from Kesava Bharati.

He was a very confidential associate of Sri Sri Gaura-Nityananda. In Gaura-ganoddesa-dipika it is stated that he is an incarnation of the effulgence of Srimati Radharani's body, as well as an expansion of Purnananda gopi. Though he was one of the associates of Nityananda Prabhu, the majority of whom were cowherd boys and thus situated in the mellow of friendship, he was always absorbed in the mood of a gopi.

Once, as he was carrying a pot of Ganges water on his head, he called loudly, "Who wants to buy some milk?" Sometimes he would say, "Here is some first class yogurt. Whoever wants to buy some, come here." Calling out like this, he would then laugh very loudly.

When Mahaprabhu instructed Nityananda Prabhu to preach in Bengal, He sent Sri Rama dasa and Sri Gadadhara dasa along with Him. [C.C. Adi 11.13,14]
One day Nityananda Prabhu came to Dasa Gadadhar's temple at Eriyadahagram. In the temple was a very beautiful Deity of Sri Bala Gopala, which Nityananda Prabhu carefully picked up from the altar. While holding Him against His chest, He began to dance in ecstasy. 

When all of the devotees saw that Gopala had taken shelter of the heart of Sri Anantadeva, they made the heavens resound with the vibrations of "Hari! Hari!" Nityananda Prabhu, who was very robust and heroic, then began to roar very loudly while engaging in His ecstatic dance with Gopalaji.

Then Madhavananda Ghosa began to sing some songs describing Krsna's dan-lila (from Dan-keli-Kaumadi). Hearing his sweet voice and the poetic descriptions of Krsna's dan-lila, Nityananda exhibited all of the ecstatic symptoms within His body simultaneously as He danced like one intoxicated. 

The gestures He exhibited while dancing were like slashes of lightning; His limbs moved with unparalleled grace. His expressive eye movements, His sweet smiling and eruptive laughter, and the shivering and quaking of His head, provided a feast for the devotees' eyes and ears. Bringing His two beautiful lotus feet together, He would then jump in such a way as to completely captivate ones mind. Whomever He would look at would find themselves floating in an ocean of the mellows of love of Krsna, and by His merciful glance they forgot about the existence of their physical body. 

The level of devotion that is sought by great yogis and munis was attained that day by the ordinary men and women of that place, as they relished the remnants of Lord Nityananda's love for Krsna.

Someone as fat as an elephant becomes so thin and weak if he fasts for three days that he can barely walk. However, by the mercy of Nityananda Prabhu, one small child of that village didn't eat anything for one month, yet his movements and behavior were like those of a lion. Such was the mysterious influence of Nityananda Prabhu, though no one could understand His activities due to the Lord's yogamaya potency. Nityananda Prabhu thus enjoyed various pastimes at the temple of Gadadhar dasa Thakura.

In Sri Caitanya-bhagavata, Sri Vrindavana dasa Thakura has described the glories of Dasa Gadadhara in this way: "Nityananda Prabhu was personally present within the body of Sri Gadadhara das; such are his glories."
Amongst Caitanya Mahaprabhu's associates, no one wanted to go near the Mohammedan Kazi for fear that he might lose his caste. Simply by looking at the face of a Mohammedan, a Hindu would lose his name in society. It was Dasa Gadadhara who had the power to influence the notorious Kazi, and so he bestowed his merciful glance upon him. Even at their first meeting, he was able to lift that Kazi beyond the limits of his caste and creed, and thus those limitations completely fell away.

One day Sri Gadadhara dasa Thakura, intoxicated in ecstatic love while chanting the Holy Names of Hari, came to the house of the Kazi at Eriyadahagram and began to call him. The Kazi, in a fit of anger, came storming out of his internal apartment, but upon seeing the transcendentally serene appearance and mood of Dasa Gadadhara Prabhu, he became stunned. His anger softened and his expression became friendly. 

The Kazi inquired, "Thakur, why have you come just now?"

Dasa Gadadhara Thakura answered, "I should like to have a few words with you."

"Yes, whatever you have to say, just speak up."

"Sri Sri Gaura-Nityananda have appeared on this earth to distribute the nectar of the Holy Names to all classes of men, from the highest to the lowest, even to the most sinful, despicable persons. Why haven't you accepted this sweet treat? Why haven't you taken up the chanting of these nectarean Holy Names?"

"We'll accept it tomorrow."

"Why tomorrow?! Today you should accept. I have come here today to deliver you from the depths of ignorance and sin by the power of these Holy Names. So you please take this supremely auspicious Harinama. I will deliver you from all your sinful activities this very day."

Having listened to Gadahara dasa Thakura's sweet speech, the Kazi
became a little bewildered. He began to laugh and said, "Tomorrow I'll say Hari."
When he heard the two syllables 'ha' and 'ri' emanate from the Kazi's mouth, Dasa Gadadhara Thakura became overwhelmed in the happiness of ecstatic love and exclaimed, "Tomorrow?! Sir, you said Hari just now! All of your sins have fled far away. You have become supremely pure." Saying this he began to dance in ecstasy.

The Kazi, having been purified by the transcendental vibration of Hari, took shelter at das Gadadhara Thakura's lotus feet. In this way, das Gadadhara Thakura delivered many sinful, wicked yavanas and other such people.

He disappeared on the eighth day of the bright fortnight in the month of Kartik.
Eriyadaha gram is reached from Calcutta by bus from Esplanade. Gadadhara dasa Thakura's samadhi-mandir and the samadhi of the hair of Lord Caitanya shaved off by the barber Madhi Sil when He accepted sannyasa are united within the same tomb at Kesava Bharati's ashrama at Katwa.

Sri Dasa Gadadhara Thakura established a temple at the place where Mahaprabhu accepted sannyasa, and the Deity of Lord Gauranga was personally installed by him. This deity is one of three Deities which were carved from one Nimba tree as per the order of Sriman Mahaprabhu, which he communicated to Narahari Sarkar Thakura and the bhakar (deity-maker) on the same night through the medium of their dreams. 

The next day, when the two met and learned that they had both had the same dream, they could understand that they should carry out the Lord's instruction immediately. The other two Deities are at Sri Khanda. There is also a Deity of Balarama (Nityananda) who is about half the size of Mahaprabhu and who came later on. Thus the Deities here are known as Sri Sri Nitai-Gauranga.

There is a local anecdote concerning this Deity of Balarama. He is said to have once been worshiped by Mineketana Rama dasa, who used to carry this Deity of Balarama with him wherever he went. 

Mineketana Rama's body was very strongly built, so he would carry Balarama upon a simhasana mounted on his back. The simhasana itself weighed perhaps twenty kilos. When he became somewhat advanced in years and it was difficult to carry the simhasana, he entrusted the worship of his Balarama to the pujari of Lord Gauranga here.

There is another story that claims that as Mineketana was a non-Bengali, his native tongue was a non-Bengali dialect. In his language, the word for hair was awa. Thus the name of the place where Mahaprabhu accepted sannyasa became Katwa, literally meaning 'cutting hair' or 'the place where Prabhu's head was shorn of its beautiful locks.' The previous name of this place was Kantak Nagar, supposedly given by Saci Mata. Kantak means thorn. The disciple of Dasa Gadadhara was Yadunandana Cakravarti. 

The present sevakas of this temple are his descendents. This is a very nice temple where many of the local people attend the arati ceremonies and classes on the devotional scriptures. There is a railway station at Katwa. From there one should go by rickshaw to Gauranga Bari.

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Serbia Devotee Discussion With PADA

Who is qualified to be Krishna's successor?

VV Serbia: Like they never admitted what to speak of correcting mistakes regarding guru tattva. Srila Prabhupada was crystal clear -- When I order you become guru He becomes regular guru that's all. Regular guru mean guru under strict regulations of sadhana bhakti-following 100%.

ASD: The most advanced devotees are not under the strict regulations of sadhana bhakti.

VV Serbia: Also that after training is complete - which is nistha level minimum - no personal desires at all and no hankering for anything of this world. From that level real bhakti is attained and such person with power of blessings and order of Srila Prabhupada is bonafide guru-but regular under strict regulations till attained bhava or prema bhakti.

PADA: Yes a regulated brahmana can perform the initiation ceremonies and Srila Prabhupada already had that system going when he was present, he called them his deputies. And a Governing Body Council would regulate these brahmanas, very similar to a Church Council that regulates and administers the organization. Yes, its very simple really. 

And there is no such thing as a Governing Body managing the acharyas, that is not making any sense. And that is the current problem, people like JAS are claiming to be Krishna's successors, so its nearly impossible to regulate and manage them, they think they are superiors to all advice and consultation. ys pd

VV Serbia: Prabhu PAMHO! AGTSP! Could you clarify little more since according our research so far we did not find any praman that Srila Prabhupada gave his order to become regular Guru to anyone, while he was present. Since he was clear that first proper adhikar must be attained or that training must be complete. Thank you very much, ys

Other thing is that quite a number of that regulated brahmanas appointed by GBC as initiating Gurus left after some years. Srila Bhaktisidhanta Saraswati Maharaja said in essence only utama adhikari is Sri Guru in real sence but madhyama adhikaris can also perform initiation ceremonys and initiate someone in spiritual life but he was clear that kanista adhikaris cant be Gurus since does not have needed adhikar. ys

PADA: Yes a regulated brahmana can perform the initiation ceremonies and Srila Prabhupada already had that system going when he was present, he called them his deputies. And a Governing Body Council would regulate these brahmanas, very similar to a Church Council that regulates and administers the organization. Yes, its very simple really. And there is no such thing as a Governing Body managing the acharyas, that is not making any sense. And that is the current problem, people like JAS are claiming to be Krishna's successors, so its nearly impossible to regulate and manage them, they think they are superiors to all advice and consultation. ys pd

VV Serbia: Thank you prabhu very much! Can you answer then what what should some of us do since that deputies left and we received also Gayatri mantras from them - should we continue to also chant gayatri mantras although when chant 2 mantras for Guru we can now meditate on Srila Prabhupada as sampradaya acharya and main siksha guru. We can't claim that we are diksha disciples of Srila Prabhupada but siksha yes we claim that as most important relationship which we developed in whole existence! Srila Prabhupada actually saved as in form in his vani in books. From him we received Hare Krishna mantra and started to chant regularly at least 16 rounds daily and follow principles laid by him. ys

Actually power node of corruptions and deviations is that body since 78 plus many managers in managerial structure. Srila Prabhupada suspended them for attempt to centralize everything. So far also about 2000 children were abused and some murders and women abuse and different philosophical deviations like 11 utama maha bhagavata hoax and managerial disasters etc..... from spiritual point of view he suspended them long ago..... yes or no? 

Srila Prabhupada and shastras are clear that we should not follow blindly and SP wrote that when we observe all that we must stick to Sri Guru Srila Prabhupada of course. CC. But someone change stick to institution! Well sorry we stick to Srila Prabhupada and his vani with respect to all those who also stick to Srila Prabhupada. ys

PADA: Srila Prabhupada's gayatri is available on youtube and I advise people, to listen to that audio. Many people here in San Francisco have had one, two, three gurus who fell down and I advise them to simply worship Srila Prabhupada and offer their bhogha to him and read his books and accept him as their guru. A neophyte cannot be a diksha guru because he cannot absorb the sins of other neophytes. 

My children and others never had any of these problems because they always offered their bhogha to Srila Prabhupada and read his original books, while their contemporaries, so called "gurukulis" have had one, two, three failed gurus. 

That system simply is not working well, because its artificial. A neophyte cannot absorb the sins of another neophyte, that is because -- as Srila Prabhupada told us -- the neophyte does not have brahmana tejyas to burn off the sins, so he becomes overwhelmed, and fails. And his disciples also fail because their sins are not absolved. Acarya upasanam is the principle, take shelter of the acharya, there is no substitute system. ys pd

VV Serbia: By the way when you said GBC should oversee regulated brahmanas but we can observe from spring 78 that actually that body seriously deviated from instructions and clear mandate given by Srila Prabhupada. Kailash Chandra has described this. 

PADA: Yes, that is the advice I give people, stick with the acharya and not with false representations of the acharya. Its very simple, and the same thing applies to Krishna, we worship Krishna and we do not worship make pretend Krishnas. 

Unfortunately, when I told Kailash people should offer their bhogha to the acharya he said that is the bogus Christian's idea, he said we cannot make offerings to departed posthumous persons. Sorry, the acharyas are eternal and they are always living, and living in their vani and in their sincere followers. So that is also why Srila Prabhupada said many time, "don't change it." 

Don't change the books, don't start offering bhogha to conditioned souls, don't change anything. The process he gave is ongoing, and should not be altered. Srila Prabhupada personally trained me to do the deity pooja when we installed deities in India, then they were shipped to USA. He said if there is the slightest change to the bhogha offering, its not accepted by Krishna. That is the rule, it cannot be changed. 

Then we have people like Torben, Ajit Krishna, Hanuman Croatia ilk, and they say we cannot worship a departed person so we need to worship people voted into their oral sex with taxi driver's in the holy dham guru parampara like Bhakti Vikas swami. 

As soon as they find some nice homsex, heterosex, anal sex, oral sex, child sex, sex with maybe with goats -- guru parampara -- they fall down and lick the boots of the people in that sampradaya thinking they have found Vaikuntha. And Hanuman worships the dead carcass of Radhanath's best pal Sridhara Swami. 

So they are summed up by themselves, Jayadvaita sways they have an illicit sex with men, women and children guru parampara. We agree with their assessment. Did I forget to mention illicit sex with men, women and children guru paramparas are not bona fide? 

And now Bhakti Charu people are glorifying him, because he is another member of the illicit sex acharyas program. They forgot, illicit sex acharya programs are going to hell in a hand basket, they are not approved by Krishna. EVER! 

Anyway, more people are waking up. Goody! 

  

ys pd

Please Pray for Bhakti Charu Swami in ICU

Dear Devotees,

Please accept our humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

We write today to inform you that HH Bhakti Charu Swami has tested positive
for Covid-19 and is currently in critical condition in the ICU at a hospital
in the USA.

We request the worldwide community of devotees to offer heartfelt prayers
for Maharaja's prompt and smooth recovery.

As you all know, HH Bhakti Charu Swami is a most respected Vaisnava leader
who has generously given his life to the service of his beloved spiritual
master, His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada. Maharaja is an
initiating spiritual master, a member of the Governing Body Commission, a
renowned speaker on the Vedic scriptures, a most melodic kirtan leader, an
innovator in Krishna conscious arts and culture, and above all, a dedicated
servant of Srila Prabhupada in whichever capacity he serves. 

He began his life in Krishna consciousness as Srila Prabhupada's personal servant and secretary and continues every day to serve Srila Prabhupada in the same personal manner.

Again, please pray with all your heart, in line with the instructions Srila
Prabhupada gave his own disciples when he was not well, "My Dear Lord
Krishna, if you so desire, please cure His Holiness Bhakti Charu Swami."

Thank you very much.

Hare Krsna,

Your servants,

Ramai Swami
Bhakti Caitanya Swami
Bhanu Swami

[PADA: I wish these guys well, honest. I just wish they would explain that we cannot worship a parampara that contains sexual predators, drunkards and debauchees and expect to attain Krishna. That will never work. Can they just admit that, before they die? 

Because eventually, they will have to admit that to Yamaraja, when he asks them why they participated in such a parampara. Sheesh, I am so glad that Krishna made me one of the outlier riff raff fringe-ites, it seems the closer we get to the inner core management, the more we have no clue what is what. We cannot serve Krishna by claiming that fools and debauchees are GOD's guru successors. That will never fly now, next year, or ten trillion kalpas from now. Its simply an illusion, and a dangerous illusion too.

ys pd]  

"Subal Sakhā Dāsa Recent update - 11.15 PM Orlando time.

Guru Maharaj is on ventilator. His oxygen level is now 96%. Temperature is normal. The current hospital is shifting Guru Maharaj to the hospital of excellence, which is especially equipped for COVID treatment.

Right now Guru Maharaj is in transit and will be relocated in 15-20 mins.
Devotees with Guru Maharaj are trying to serve him with best possible means and the best way all devotees can help them is by praying to Krishna and not calling or texting. If you have any suggestions you can send to 

office@bhakticharuswami.com 

Please pray and chant for Guru Maharaj recovery."

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HH Bhakti Caru Swami. UPDATE

"Subal Sakhā Dāsa Dear devotees, I'm writing to inform you of HH Bhakti Charu Swami's current condition. Yesterday HH Bhakti Charu Maharaj had a temperature of 104°F, so he was taken in an ambulance from DeLand farm to the hospital and was admitted into the Adventist hospital in DeLand. After 4 hours they discharged him. 

He decided to come to the preaching center near our house. My husband moved there to take care of him together with Shyama Murari prabhu and Anish prabhu. Maharaj's temperature was up again to 104°f in the evening. He was administered 2 tablets of Tylanol and was given tepid sponging to bring his temperature down. 

Maharaj had no appetite and was feeling very uncomfortable. After 3 hours he took another fever reducing medicine and by 10pm his temperature was down 97.5°F. He slept for the first time in days and my husband woke him up at 3am to give him medicine, some light potato soup, and some liquids. 

His temperature remained at 97.5°F. At 6:45am he was chanting and sitting in a chair when my husband went in the room. He said he felt fine and didn't want to take medication because it's not good for the liver. My husband pressed him to take it but he refused. He broke his ekadasi fast with a small piece of toast and avocado but his appetite was not there. 

Maharaj continued to chant most of that morning. At 11am he called my husband and said his temperature was high again, at 104°F. His pulse oxygen level was 79%-90%. When my husband saw that it was so low he suggested Maharaj go back to the hospital. Maharaj agreed. We called the hospital in advance and they informed us that he tested positive for covid-19 because they had tested him five days ago. 

We then immediately rushed him to advent health hospital in Altamonte Springs. The doctors found out that he is in grave condition and wanted to immediately ventilate him. Maharaj had previously said that he didn't want to be put onto a ventilator because he didn't want to be unconscious. At 8pm the doctors called my husband and said Maharaj had named him as his health surrogate, they also said that if Maharaj is unable to make a decision they'll call my husband to make the decision of whether to put him on the ventilator or not. 

My husband called Maharaj's doctor and Sesa prabhu, the local GBC, was connected to the call. My husband told them that this responsibly should not be on him and that the GBC should make the decision. Sesha said he will call HH Ramai Swami, the executive chairman of the GBC and get back to my husband. 20 mins later Sesa prabhu and Maharaj's doctor called Guru Gauranga and informed him that in the event that Maharaj is unable to make the decision, they decided that he should be ventilated because the doctor said Maharaj will pass away if he isn't put onto the ventilator. 

At 9:09pm Maharaj called my husband and told him he was feeling very uncomfortable, very stressed, and was finding it very difficult to breath. My husband mentioned to Maharaj that it was the consensus of the devotees that he should take the ventilator. They spoke for 10 mins and Maharaj said he would leave his life in the hands of the devotees and do what they wanted. 

The call ended at 9:23. Maharaj called at 9:29 and informed him that he told the doctor he will accept the ventilator and he also asked my husband to thank the devotees for their prayers and keep in touch with the doctor while he is unconscious. During the last week that maharaj was so sick, he had been continuously speaking of how to spread Krsna consciousness vigorously in Orlando and had not cared much about his own health but rather about how much still has to be done to fulfill Srila Prabhupada and Lord Caitanya's mission. 

Not a moment of his time while he was sick was lost, but rather he kept working, up until today, even though his health was deteriorating rapidly. We are all praying to Krsna that he comes back to us healthy, quickly. Please also pray for his rapid recovery. Your servant Sucitra dd"