Tuesday, June 30, 2020

ISKCON New Vrindaban Venkata Suicide (Anuttama Das Update)

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Venkata prabhu's suicide (New Vrindaban).

PADA: According to a letter from (ISKCON GBC spokesman) Anuttama das, the most likely "real reason" for the suicide is that Venkata had been engaged in some sort of "inappropriate phone calls" with a teen aged girl from the congregation. The mother of the girl was consulted and an investigation was launched. 

And the issue was taken seriously and was thus reported to the West Virginia police authority (as some sort of criminal cyber stalking)? Malati was involved and some sort of CPO (Child Protection Office of ISKCON) process was also launched. Bravo! "Day late and a dollar short," but hey something is WAY better than nothing.

First of all I'd like to repeatedly say -- BRAVO -- for reporting things like this to the police authority -- and getting some sort of legal handle on this type of behavior. Its something we have tolerated and tolerated -- to the peril of the society and the children of the society. If we do not protect our children, ok there is no society. Its worse than cats and dogs -- who at least try to protect their off spring from malefic attacks. 

So this Venkata fellow was not actually so much a victim of New Vrndavana mis-managing, at least apparently. Rather he seems a victim of his own devices, and he maybe thought ISKCON was like "the good ole days" when these behaviors were overlooked and tolerated. And so he commits suicide with a deity of Lord Narasimgha, like the Lord is going to protect him from malefic acts involving apparently -- attempts at contaminating the minds of children? 

Well maybe the Lord will protect, but I'd not count on it. 

Every day various ISKCON folks are preaching to little children that God's successors are often debauchees, so they are contaminating the minds of little children left, right and center. Maybe the Lord will be upset people are using His images to conduct such foul behaviors -- and then expecting Him to bail them out? Or maybe Krishna will take these false guru programs to the lowest regions of hell, along with the promoters? At least that is what shastra says will be the result. 

Then again, if Venkata is worshiping an illicit sex guru parampara, maybe that will contaminate him and get him to "become what we worship." He is a victim of his own pooja, it contaminates people? At the same time I wish Venkata well, he is partly a victim of the GBC policy to promote a debauchee guru parampara. If we worship a debauchee's guru parampara, then we become debauchees ourselves, why would anyone be surprised?  

Perhaps he thought his suicide was the best way forward, considering he had committed an evil deed. Or perhaps he was committing suicide because he realized he had been caught with his hands in the cookie jar, and he was not really repentant, just upset he got caught? Who knows. Anyway, there is more good news than bad here, we need to have people understand this behavior is not going to continue to fly under the radar forever.

And that is also why over the years we have had to address the Sanat / Mukunda / Prahlad / Krishna Kirtan / Dayalu Nitai's HKC Jaipur folks and their pals like Michael Keith Powell, who all complained as soon as they found out their favorite child buggery messiah's process was being squashed by a karmi lawyer who drinks Johnny Walker and wears snakeskin Texas boots. Yep, a Texas lawyer had to tell these guys we cannot promote worship of a child molesting guru process, evidently they did not know that was wrong?  

As soon as their wonderful "anal reconstructive surgery of little boys process" was being contained, these guys all screamed like stuck pigs (along with their GBC pals). You mean our anal busting program's worship is going to be contained! That's offensive prabhu! Why we were just getting started with our butt busting process, and some guy in Texas is putting the kabash on our program? Forsooth!

You mean now -- we won't have more and more, and more and more, of our children get molested and then hanging themselves and shooting themselves in the head? How can we be happy when we cannot get more of our children's blood on our army tank treads? Even the police told me that, these people (your opponents) want to drink your blood -- and these children's blood. That is why shastra says there are man eating -- blood drinking -- demons. And its always been a problem for them when someone exposes them -- and for the past billions of years.

Then Krishna Kanta Desai and his IRM people ALSO complained that the child buggery messiah's process is getting contained. Yep, how can we have all sorts of nice child molesting and suicides of victims going on -- when PADA is trying to halt our nice process? Then they pretend to wonder why there has been molesting going on, according to one of the victims "in every nook and cranny"? And subsequent suicides of victims? Umm, maybe all these GBC ilk and the assorted jack booters defenders of that process have had something to do with keeping that odious process going on, and on, and on, ad infinitum?

Of course this begs the question, why do the police, courts, media, FBI etc. have to solve issues in these guys own society in the first place? Why are they not fixing it? My devotee friends in Texas are right now out there loudly protesting the law that we all have to be wearing virus masks, all going on at big Texas rallies right now. Great stuff! Except? Where were all these big tough freedom fighting protesters when all the crap was coming down the pipeline in ISKCON? 

So now FINALLY! Someone is ACTUALLY going to the ACTUAL police to report ACTUAL problems! Its a huge step forward! Historic even! Rambouru was brought in to "counsel" people. Hey Rambouru, your husband Prithu has been among the biggest cheer leaders of the worship of illicit sex with men, women and children acharya's program. 

When we gave Prithu (Peter Brinkman) a booklet about how we need to worship Srila Prabhupada, and not worship his child buggery messiah's program, he ripped up our booklet and the photo of Srila Prabhupada on the cover. And then he tossed our booklet on the ground and stomped on Prabhupada's photo with his feet. OK he hates it when his buggery messiahs program is being challenged. 

And he also hates Srila Prabhupada, which is why he rips up his photo and stomps on his photo with his shoes. Yep, this is not a photo of the leaders of the child buggery messiah's project, we don't need a photo of the pure devotee! We hate that photo! Stomp on it!

And you folks are going to "counsel" people about how they need to be loving, tolerant and patient with this messed up process? Why aren't you folks telling people we need to jettison this process, and all the people leading it? Like for example Bhakti Charu swami? Nope, Prithu is saying we need to pray for the leaders of the child buggery messiah's process leaders -- like Bhakti Charu swami. 

Even now Prithu is praying to keep his buggery messiah's project's leaders afloat, and we need to counsel people to be tolerant and loving to these people -- whose program is destroying ours and Srila Prabhupada's children? And has been destroying them all along? 

And! 

We need to save the buggery messiah's process and its leaders? And then, when there is a buggery problem in every nook and corner, we cannot understand how that happens? We become what we worship, and if we worship the leaders of a buggery messiahs program, we become that process ourself. And so we need to pray that God saves -- the buggery messiah program's leaders? And that is why a devotee recently told me he would rather attend a SATANIC worship church than a GBC church, because he would feel that his children are in better hands there.   

And then our good old pal Varshana swami comes out to say we all need to focus on the teachings of Jesus to understand all this. OK and when we said people should worship Jesus and Srila Prabhupada, the New Vrndavana goondas were chasing me with baseball bats. We love Jesus, but we chase his bogus ritvik followers to beat them to death? And he is another "counsellor" over here? We love Jesus, but despise his followers?

Anyway, we thought there was more to this story than was initially speculated. I am sorry that this guy had to die. Yet, if we do not contain these problems, our whole society will die. ys pd 


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2 comments:

  1. PADA: Yes, I agree with Hanuman Croatia that suicide should NOT be used to avoid being branded as "involved in a scandal," when scandals are going on left, right and center in and around ISKCON. We would have piles of dead people if that was the case. And the leaders who are ACTUALLY involved in worse scandals than Venkata could dream of, seem to avoid any sort of repercussions. Also true.

    At the same time, we would say people like Venkata promoting the illicit sex acharyas program is causing others to commit suicide, as happened to various ex-kulis. Never mind the numerous cancer deaths or de facto suicide epidemic among many other ISKCON-ites. So Venkata is not implicated too badly in his own personal scandal, but he has been promoting a guru sampradaya that has been chock full of scandals, resulting in the deaths of many others, either spiritual death or factual deaths. The India bodied folks have a higher responsibility to guide us Western fools away from worship of a debauchee guru sampradaya.

    Anyway, the whole thing is another sad episode on a pile of thousands of other sad episodes. We blame the leaders mainly, but the supporters are also implicated at least according to shastra. Meanwhile, we think that the NEW choice to take these problems to the police -- and not keep this an "internal process" -- hoping it will go away by itself -- is a good step forward. A lot of the exploiting would not have happened if that process had been started earlier. Not reporting criminal exploiting and keeping it internal -- does not work, and we should know that by now. Anyway, its another problem that has no easy solution.

    We also cannot calculate easily what happens when people worship a debauchees sampradaya. It may cause people to fail -- no matter what, and may have a built in ongoing scandal process that cannot be avoided by any mundane administration on the part of the GBC. A guy like Venkata would then be simply caught up in the grinding wheels of that process and he would have a problem of some type either now or later. ys pd

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  2. LD: ISKCON leaders created this atmosphere. Their people think they can get away with these things. They surprised this guy. Sneak attack. So he killed himself ... not expecting they would take action.

    Its good they took action. Its bad he was not expecting action. I agree the whole program is causing people to die. I agree their gurus taking karma is killing them. Its a death cult. I survived because I left before they got to me.

    Their gurus take karma and die. The followers get caught in scandal and die. And we die if we stay for being part of it. And the children are dying from being abused. Then they attack you ... and want you to die ... for your objection. Everyone dies in their hands. Death cult. We are best to stay aloof like Prabhupada was aloof from Gaudiya Matha.

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