Hanuman Dasa Identifies His Guru Lineage

Hanuman das

Sridhara Swami

PADA: Hanuman Das recently claims he is the "only person" exposing the bogus GBC's gurus. Well hee hee, maybe so and maybe not, but a lot of people are exposing them, and we ourselves have been doing that long before he was. 

What is interesting is that Hanuman now says his guru is the GBC's Sridhara Swami, who was voted into the GBC's guru program. Of course, that means the same people who re-coronated their illicit sex with taxi drivers acharya, simultaneously voted in people such as: Sridhara Swami, Jayadvaita swami, Prithu das, Gaura Govinda maharaja etc. 

So Hanuman follows a person who is "2/3 show of hands voted in" to the illicit sex with taxi driver's guru sampradaya? What kind of reform is that? And Hanuman says the ritviks are bogus, because they do not worship an illicit sex with taxi driver's guru sampradaya?

Actually Sridhara Swami was a sort of friend of ours from way back in the day, he was a nice guy, very friendly guy, but he was also a "corporate" religion type, the corporation is correct no matter what, and we have to support that. Shouldn't we support proper siddhanta first, and corporate identity maybe later, but only if it follows the proper siddhanta?

Also, him and his followers called him "The Jolly Swami." 

This is fine, except all of the banning, beating, abuse and assassinating his guru regime caused was not making anyone else jolly. Why are they making banning, beating, abuse and assassinating a "jolly good time"? Did we forget to mention his guru line are among the prime suspects in the poison complaint of the pure devotee?

Hanuman has never explained why a member of an illicit sex guru program can be bona fide?

Hanuman has never explained how a conditioned soul devotee can be a diksha guru and absorb sins like Jesus?

Worse, when Sridhara Swami was very ill for many years, some of his followers said he was ill from taking sins from his followers. When was he authorized to take ANY sins, from ANY one? And didn't Srila Prabhupada tell ALL of US that NONE of US should act as diksha gurus, because we would take sins and thus we would be overwhelmed by these sins, and this would cause us to get sick, fall down or both. 

And die if we get too sick (like Sridhara Swami did)?

Who authorized Sridhara Swami to violate one of these basic points of siddhanta?  

Sridhara Swami was also associated with the Gaudiya Matha program's apa-siddhanta, that says gurus are voted in, voted out, suspended. censured, removed, etc.

      

Yes, I can absorb sins like Jesus! Any questions?

So the Hanuman project has all of the original deviant ideas that the GBC has:

* He agrees with Sridhara Swami, gurus are voted in, voted out, suspended and removed for deviations.

* Sridhara Swami died in Mayapura "in the loving association" of the illicit sex acharya's program. Swell! Why does he love the illicit sex acharya's program?

* Sridhara Swami's taught his foolish followers that he and his pals could absorb sins like Jesus. This means, he is either very egotistical "I am equal to Jesus," or very insane, because some people in mental homes think they too are equal to Jesus. Srila Prabhupada said we neophytes cannot absorb sins, and Sridhara Swami evidently thinks he is above the law of the Vedas and guru.

* Then again many people think Mayapura is the head quarters of all sorts of deviations, and its not such a good place to endorse and be part of. Going there to be surrounded by and loved by those folks is not a plus?

One thing that is still going on there is the worship of Jayapataka Swami:  

[PADA: And JPS followers are asking for us to pray for him to be able to absorb sins. He was never authorized to take sins either, and its self evident he is not capable of doing so. Why was Sridhara Swami encouraging these people to absorb sins, causing them to get, sick, fall down, and die. What kind of love is that, hey I got an idea, lets make you get sick, fall down, and die! What kind of "love" is this?

In any case, we do not think the Sridhara Swami program is authorized since it is part of the GBC's guru process. We also do not think Hanuman is making any sense when he says the ritviks are bogus for worshiping a departed acharya, when he follows a so-called departed acharya himself, and worse, his acharya is totally part of a bogus process. 

Are we all going to follow Sridhara Swami now, a departed acharya, all because he was dying in the loving arms of the Mayapura crew, which is the citadel of the illicit sex messiahs program? Hee hee! ys pd] 

Munich Devotees Evicted from Temple

https://iskconnews.org/iskcon-munich-evicted-from-temple,6163/

[PADA: As usual, there are hundreds of millions to pay bogus lawyers, even some GBC folks told me they will spend $100,000,000 suing the ritviks for the next 100 years, but there is no money to fund their temples? Told ya! ys pd]

Krishna, please consider me your household dog

1) Now that I have surrendered all I possess, I fall prostrate before Your house. You are the Supreme Lord. Kindly consider me Your household dog.

2) Chain me nearby and maintain me as You will. I shall remain at the doorstep and allow no enemies to enter Your house. I will keep them at the bounds of the moat surrounding Your home.

3) Whatever remnants Your devotees leave behind after honoring Your prasada will be my daily sustenance. I will feast on those remnants with great ecstasy.

4) While sitting up, while lying down, I will constantly meditate on Your lotus feet. Whenever You call, I will immediately run to You and dance in rapture.

5) I will never think of my own maintenance but rather remain transported by a multitude of ecstasies. Bhaktivinoda accepts You as his only support.

Sarvasva Tomar Carane 

by Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura

(from Saranagati) 

Prabhupada a Pure Devotee, ISKCON Gurus Not (Gargamuni das)

Another GBC Temple Imbroglio

[PADA: They keep losing devotees, by driving them out, for not worshiping their illicit sex acharya guru lineage, then they wonder why their temples are failing, collapsing, bankrupting and closing? Duh! ys pd] 

Today is Ekadasi (and 2017 Ekadasi Calendar)

Ekadashi 2017 Dates

DateDayEkadashi8 January Sunday Pausha Putrada Ekadashi
23 January Monday Shattila Ekadashi
7 February Tuesday Jaya Ekadashi
22 February Wednesday Vijaya Ekadashi (Vaishnav)
8 March Wednesday Amalaki Ekadashi
24 March Friday Papmochani Ekadashi
7 April Friday Kamada Ekadashi
22 April Saturday Varuthini Ekadashi
6 May Saturday Mohini Ekadashi
22 May Monday Apara Ekadashi
5 June Monday Nirjala Ekadashi
20 June Tuesday Yogini Ekadashi
4 July Tuesday Devshayani Ekadashi (Vaishnav)
19 July Wednesday Kamika Ekadashi
3 August Thursday Shravana Putrada Ekadashi
18 August Friday Aja Ekadashi
2 September Saturday Parsva/Parivartini Ekadashi
16 September Saturday Indira Ekadashi
1 October Sunday, Papankusha Ekadashi (Vaishnav)
15 October Sunday Rama Ekadashi
31 October Tuesday Devutthana Ekadashi
14 November Tuesday Utpanna Ekadashi
30 November Thursday Mokshada Ekadashi
13 December Wednesday Saphala Ekadashi
29 December Friday Pausha Putrada Ekadashi

Nicki Minaj Adopts India Village

https://telanganatoday.com/rapper-nicki-minaj-contributes-develop-indian-village

Everyone is a devotee, some know and some don't ...

http://www.iskcontimes.com/everyone-is-a-devotee-but-some-know-it-and-some-dont/

Satsvarupa's "Guru Reform Notebook"

http://www.iskcon-truth.com/satsvarupa/Guru-Reform-Notebook_Satsvarupa.html

Distributing Prabhupada's Books At New Age Festival

https://www.iskm.international/book-distribution-kirtana-workshop-new-age-festival/

"Holy Man" Castrated By Woman Victim (Kerala India)

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-39984640

Did PADA "invent" Worship of the acharya?

Torben Nielsen / Ajit Krishna / Kim Moller's Living Guru Speaks 

about Ritviks

Here is the newfound messiah of the jagat, Rocana's "Sampradaya Sun" writer / editor Kailasa chandra dasa, living in Moab Utah -- waiting for WW III to blow us all up over here in sunny California. Why are there no images of Sri Krishna or Srila Prabhupada in their video? Did they forget who Krishna is? 

There are only some weird images of their nutty professor's Satsvarupa style of art, and images of Kailasa chandra, but no others? Why are they making Satsvarupa's style art, at all? How did Satsvarupa become their inspiration? Right, he also preaches that you need a living person .... and its himself!  

All glories to WW III Survivalist-pada! 

I am the living person we all need to hear from! 

Who is this unidentified creature (below?)

Has someone been imitating Satsvarupa's art?

Dog or bear, cannot say for sure?

The ritviks worship Krishna and Srila Prabhupada which is -- this, a totem pole of animals?

Worship of Krishna and Prabhupada is an animal totem pole? Why are Torben, Ajit, Kim Moller etc. promoting the idea that worship of Krishna is some sort of cave man's animal pooja? 

[PADA: OK so first of all, neither Lord Sri Krishna or Srila Prabhupada are even pictured on their video, at all. Instead we find these folks are making Satsvarupa's insane styled art, which looks a "more than a little crazy" according to most devotees. Amazing, worship of Krishna and Srila Prabhupada is some sort of "animal totem pole" (see photo above).

At the same time, while they attack the worship of Krishna via Prabhupada as animalistic, they describe no other process of worship of the acharya on their video, or even -- which acharya should be worshiped? Worship of Srila Prabhupada breaks the parampara, you need a living person, and the living person is Kailasa -- and his totem pole idea that worship of Krishna is animal pooja? Have they forgot that we need to worship Krishna and Srila Prabhupada due to amnesia? Who should we worship instead, a Phantom God and guru? 

Worse, by saying we all need to listen to Kailasa as our authority, Torben and Ajit de facto make Kailasa their shiksha guru authority that we all need to accept? Right, we need to listen to the people who say worship of Krishna via His pure devotee is "like worship of animals on a totem pole." That means Torben and Ajit are promoting a person who clearly thinks worship of Krishna via the pure devotee is a horrible deviation. Meanwhile, as they promote the idea that Krishna worship is some animal totem pole pooja, these guys block us from saying -- we need to worship Krishna and His pure devotee!

Srila Prabhupada also says that anyone who wears a beard is not my disciple, "so what" these guys retorted back.

Why is there zero Krishna and zero Srila Prabhupada pictured in their video, especially in the introduction? Why is Kailasa sitting outside his retreat in Moab Utah, where he has been saying California is going to be catastrophically destroyed -- for the past 40 years, instead of showing us his wonderful program of worship of Krishna? Because there is no program? 

So the worship of Lord Krishna and Srila Prabhupada is "animals"? And the person we need to listen to now is Kailasa chandra, who has no pictures of even Srila Prabhupada or Krishna on his video, the only pictured person is, himself. All glories to me!

Then Ajit Krishna asks, why should we listen to PADA, instead of Kailash? Well maybe because we are NOT saying that worship of Krishna and His acharya is an animal's totem pole? Apart from that, Ajit has no idea who originally said we have to worship Krishna via the acharya? That is not PADA, that is Krishna.  

Ajit thinks it is PADA's idea to worship Krishna via the acharya, when Krishna was saying we need to worship Him via media His acharyas millions of years ago. I am simply repeating what Krishna said long ago, but Ajit thinks worship of Krishna via the acharya was "invented by PADA" -- and recently? What! Torben and Ajit say this is all concoction. OK Krishna says we have to approach Him via the acharya, so Krishna concocted this process? And so now we need to say worship of Krishna via His acharyas is "animal life." Well that would make the atheists proud, they also think worship of God via His acharya is foolishness.  

The good news is that finally Torben / Ajit Krishna / Kim Moller have at least identified their "living guidance" as Kaliasa Chandra das, and they are promoting Rocana who is Kailasa's publisher, and Torben is defending Kailasa's video. Kailasa says that the ritviks are bogus because they have broken the parampara of living persons, the next good news is, we finally have a nice living person (from the parampara?) to take shelter of, aka Kailasa Chandra. 

When did Srila Prabhupada say Kailasa will be my living authority after I depart, and he is authorized to say my worship of Krishna program is -- an animal totem pole? The ritviks worship of Srila Prabhupada is bogus and an animal totem pole, so we should instead take shelter of Kailash Chandra Dasa? Why should people listen to Prabhupada (the ritvik idea) when they can listen to Kailasa?  

Kailasa is evidently the living person we need to take shelter of, because he has never identified any other live person, neither has Torben's crew -- so by default its Kailasa himself who is the living person we all need to hear from. And these guys said there is "no proof" that Srila Prabhupada accepts bhoga offerings or offerings of disciples, so we should offer bhoga and disciples to Kailasa? Why do they think Kailasa is qualified to accept offerings of bhoga and disciples, simply because he is living? 

And the reason they want us to worship Kailasa is, he says worship of Krishna is cave man's animal life? Anyway, this shows how desperate the anti-Prabhupadanugas are getting, they have to resort to attacking worship of the pure devotee as animal life, that means, they cannot defeat us, so they resort to argumentum ad hominem -- insulting Krishna for "speculating" that we need to worship His pure devotee. 

And insulting us for promoting what Krishna says. And just when Torben says

Kailasa is "the smartest devotee around," it turns out Kailash thinks Krishna is a dog on a totem pole. How smart are these guys? Yep, it would be comical except these guys take themselves very seriously. 

Its all part of the overall meltdown of all these GBC siddhanta guys, they keep repeating GBC slogans, you need a live person, and then, the only live person they can find are some WW III survivalist or other folks like Rocana, who have no preaching, no programs, no book printing, no temples, no big kirtana, and in this case -- not even a photo of Krishna in their video. ys pd] 

Update on the Poison Issue (Nityananda dasa)

Received today from Nityananda Prabhu.... May 19, 2017.

Dear Godbrothers, Godsisters, and all devotees:

All Glories to Srila Prabhupada! Please accept my humble obeisances.

Below please find an excerpt of two key chapters from our upcoming free E-book which I ask all to read carefully (if they are interested in the new evidence that Srila Prabhupada was poisoned with sky-high levels of cadmium- the arsenic being secondary). This discovery was made in 2002-05, but the final report was only obtained in 2015, and thus the long delay in its disclosure.

I have been following some of the reactions and responses to my recent video about how the scientific forensic breakthrough was made in the private investigation into Srila Prabhupada’s poisoning. It is clear that many who make public comments on the issue and my video HAVE NOT WATCHED THE END OF THE VIDEO to see the new evidence discovered by the Truth Committee about Srila Prabhupada’s disappearance pastimes, as described in these two chapters.

Aside from the chapters here for your information, please allow me to address a few of the negative responses, which I posit are misunderstandings of the issue due to a lack of knowing the facts and evidence. Some of the misunderstandings are:

(1). THERE CAN BE NO FINAL RESOLUTION TO THE ISSUE WITHOUT AN EXHUMATION

Yes, in many murder investigations, law enforcement will exhume the body to test tissues for poisons. But we have already tested Srila Prabhupada’s body via his sacred relic hair samples. Three authenticated (by the GBC themselves) Srila Prabhupada hair samples were tested, and all were found to have sky-high, deadly levels of cadmium, a heavy metal more poisonous than arsenic. 

There is thus no need to exhume Srila Prabhupada and we do not suggest such a drastic measure. The hair samples that devotees saved as relics never went into the Samadhi, so they can be tested as parts of Srila Prabhupada’s body to determine poisoning. Poisoning was verified by these new tests.

(2). THE WHISPERS CAN NEVER BE PROOF OF ANYTHING

Actually, the science of audio forensics is used worldwide by courts of law and law enforcement regularly, and is able to determine the real content of recordings which may be difficult for the subjective human ear to understand. Although hundreds of devotees have clearly heard the poison word in three different whispers, we have also had SEVEN confirmations done by two professional sound studios and five recognized audio forensic laboratories. 

These are all documented in our upcoming report. The whispers have thus been scientifically certified as real court-worthy evidence. The whispers are not just what we think them to be- they are now what the scientific experts say they are, namely that Srila Prabhupada’s own caretakers were discussing malicious poisoning in his room just a few days before his departure. The confirmatory hair tests also validate the whispers. But even without the whispers, there is the absolute proof of poisoning in the new hair tests.

(3). WHY REHASH WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN SETTLED?

The truth is that the matter was never honestly or satisfactorily settled by the ISKCON leadership, as detailed in Part Six of our upcoming report. The GBC engaged in a fraudulent cover up. Further, new evidence was discovered afterwards, which is presented in our upcoming report. Up to 2000, the GBC claimed that 20 times normal arsenic is not a problem. 

But then the discovery was made in GBC certified hair samples at a GBC-chosen laboratory that Srila Prabhupada had about 250 times the normal levels of cadmium in his body (as found in his hair). The story about this discovery is given in my video, which is 54 minutes long, and it seems some have not watched it completely, judging from their comments.

(4). SRILA PRABHUPADA WAS NOT POISONED, AS HE WAS SURROUNDED BY LOVING DISCIPLES

Yes, Srila Prabhupada was certainly surrounded by loving disciples. But Srila Prabhupada’s poisoning by cadmium is also a certainty, as shown by the tests on the GBC’s hair samples done in 2002-05. Abhirama, Srutirupa, and other prabhus may not have seen anything untoward while they faithfully served Srila Prabhupada in his last year, but obviously someone, somehow, did manage to poison Srila Prabhupada with sky-high levels of cadmium, as proven by the new hair tests. 

And these deadly levels were maintained from early March to November 1977, at the minimum, a time of at least 8 months. Poisoning is a secretive act that no one expects or detects, even if many loving persons are present. Poison can be introduced unknown to others by many unseen or unnoticed channels. Yes, it is very hard to accept that Srila Prabhupada was poisoned, and I deeply sympathize with those who cannot bear to entertain the notion even to the extent of refusing to look at the facts. But this is a threshold that each devotee will sooner or later need to face honestly.

Please let us look at the facts and evidence that has been assembled by Balavanta, Naveen Krishna, the GBC themselves, and the Truth Committee’s private investigation. It is all documented in our upcoming free E-book report, of which two key chapters are given below. 

There are no crazy, envious, deranged, or wacky people involved in making this report on the conclusive evidence that Srila Prabhupada was indeed poisoned at lethal levels with cadmium (and arsenic). Please try to study a little bit the actual evidence in this matter. Many sincere devotees have persevered to discover the facts in the face of institutional intimidation. 

It is time all the followers of Srila Prabhupada get the chance (and take it) to understand the facts and evidence as it is, rather than the party line that Srila Prabhupada was not poisoned. He was, and scientific proof is now there, beyond any reasonable doubt. My deep apologies for the pain and difficulty these developments may bring to anyone.

Yours in Srila Prabhupada’s service,

Nityananda das

Please read the attached document for Part Four:
FORENSIC-BREAKTHROUGH

Download PDF: FORENSIC-BREAKTHROUGH.pdf
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Vishnu Gayatri Mantra (Video)

PADA Debates Narayana Maharaja Folks

ND: Amara Gurudeva Yugalacarya, AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada's best friend. Ha! Ha! Ha! Yes Lord Nrisinghadeva will scare away Srimati Radhika.

PADA: Its foolish for Narayana Maharaja to say that Srimate Radharani is afraid of anything. She is the most intelligent being, she has no fear of Krishna or any of His incarnations. Even the cowherd boys are fearless when facing many important demons. Thus an associate of Krishna is not fearful, what to speak of the most important associate.

Its also foolish to tell neophytes they should not worship Narasimgha in the Radha Krishna temples, because they need to worship Him for spiritual strength. And that is why His worship is ALREADY established in these temples. And this worship is established by the ACHARYA, so it should not be challenged and removed by Narayana Maharaja's whims. 

Its also foolish for NM to say worship of Tulsi Devi by the Yani Kani prayers is karma kanda. No! We need to change our karma, we need the mercy of Tulsidevi to do that, this is the process, and NM attacks that process. Srila Bhaktivinode's Prayers to Lord Narasimha are also proof that Lord Narasimgha's worship is compatible with Radha Krishna's worship. 

ND: I could be rude in answer to your stupid comment. Just because you don't know anything about any tattva sidhanta, specially rasa tattva, you proudly reveal all the rubbish that's on your mind. Writing about Srila Narayan Maharaj in those terms, you certainly must be out of your mind or on drugs. Aren't you afraid of aparadhas, oh, you, who know so well Srimati Radharani?

PADA: No one would say that Radharani is afraid of the incarnations of Krishna unless they have no idea who is Radharani. No one would say its bogus to worship Narasimgha in the Radha Krishna temples unless they have no idea who is Srila Prabhupada? We are not afraid of Narasimghadeva, we are happy to see Him, but Radharani is afraid of Him?

The first thing that happened when I walked into SRILA PRABHUPADA'S Radha Krishna temple for the first time was, there was a huge painting of Narasimghadev displayed right next to the altar. That is what Srila Prabhupada established for his Radha Krishna temples, and its an aparadha to challenge what the acharya wants and orders. Yes, I know what Radharani wants at least in this regard, because Her servant Srila Prabhupada says, worship Narasimgha in Radha Krishna's temples.

You also did not answer my comment at all, you just stated argumentum ad hominem, which is not an answer. That is the tattva, that is the siddhanta, we need to worship Narasimgha in our Radha Krishna's temples, and worship them as one process together, and Srila Bhaktivinode's prayer shows us this is the bona fide path as well. 

ND: Ok, I understand, you're a Prabhupadanuga, no need for diksa. Who can understand the behaviour of a vaisnava? Specially, such a great one as you? ISKCON; Is there any need of answering a comment ? It's not a question, specially such a stupid ignorant comment. What to tell? 

I've known the devotees for 40 years, some experience of who is who, ISKCON, nice name by the way, so plz go on with your stupid comments, they will only affect blind eyes. Obviously you don't even know how to respect senior vaisnavas and understand their moods, no education, that's the sadness, plz get educated, this will please Srila Prabhupad, not your foolishness of thinking you can insult one of his dearest friends. Plz, get educated

PADA: OK so Narayana Maharaja said there is a need to take diksha from ISKCON's gurus like Tamal, ooops, isn't Tamal the main suspect in the poison complaint from Srila Prabhupada? And when I came out with the poison issue in 1997, Narayana Maharaja was livid with anger, and he said I was making offenses and so on. He was my worst attacker. 

Then NM invited me to his ashram to talk about all this, but then he avoided me and sat in his room for 10 hours while I waited outside, then he sneaked off the property. Without seeing me? He does not even understand ordinary karmi etiquette, you do not leave a guest sitting, and then sneak out and leave? 

Now you are saying the people who attack the worship of Lord Narasimgha are "great souls"? How are they great souls? Do you know what kind of people attack the worship of Lord Narasimgha? 

Right! "No one (like NM) noticed my 1980s comments, so it came down to, we had Tamal's guru program sued for $400,000,000 for gurukula abuse, and you folks did not notice? That is spare change for your guys? $400,000,000 is not even noticed by you folks? OK! And Narayana Maharaja was in Dallas propping up Tamal's regime while the abuse was going on, and we had that regime sued, why are you people propping up the regime that has to be sued for abuse? 

When our friends in Dallas went to meet Narayana Maharaja he was angry as fire that they were offending "the dear Tamal tree of Radha, Tamal Krishna swami," the main suspect in the poison issue -- is your dear tree to Radha? The guy we had to sue in Dallas is your dear Radha tree, that is an offense to Radha. 

And then shortly after NM cancelled meeting me, he said he did not understand the details of the poison issue, well no kidding he cancelled our meeting after he invited me over to discuss this very issue. He did not want to know about the issue, otherwise why did he cancel our meeting discussing it? Then he said he was not informed properly, well no kidding he cancelled being informed.

ND: If Srila Prabhupad has been poisoned, it shows the quality of those surrounding him. As far as diksa is concerned, Srila Narayan Maharaja did not want to initiate, but sastras say, in order to be connected with the parampara, up to Sri Krsna's lotus feet, you have to receive the bhakti lata bija. 

Many came to Srila Narayan Maharaj, he told them to get initiated in ISKCON, Tamal Krsna, was also one of them. You get that? In Srila Narayan Maharaja's opinion, you are an offender, why would he want to associate with you? You were the one who wanted to talk about this ghastly subject. 

Who is attacking the worship of Lord Narasimgha ? Oh! Tamal's guru program, what is that? Was he still alive ? So you got $400,000,000 to give to the abused kids as a compensation? Well done! Congratulations, sincerely, finally, some justice!

PADA: Right, and Narayana Maharaja said the leader of the poisoners party is the dear Tamal tree of Radha and its wrong to say he poisoned Prabhupada. And worse, he defended Tamal when we said there is an abuse program. Worse, NM said the children are just getting the karma. Worse, NM said that we should get people initiated by these false acharyas in ISKCON.

Who authorized NM to support an abusive program? And NM refused to talk to me about the poison issue -- after inviting me over? Then he said he did not know the details of the case, after he refused to hear the details.

And! This is yet another foolish idea NM has, we need to accept the GBC like Tamal are diksha gurus in order to be connected to the parampara? We need to worship Judas in order to worship Jesus? If he thought I was an offender, why did he later agree that I was right, Tamal is the ring leader of the poison issue? You mean to say, he only agrees with offenders? And you totally forgot to answer why we should not worship Narasimgha? Can you try to stay on point? 

ND: Maybe this means something for you. Srila Narayan Maharaj never said we should not worship Lord Nrisimhadev. 

[PADA: But you just said that NM criticized the worship of Narasimgha in the Radha Krishna temples, and you said this worship scares Radharani? So he criticizes the worship of Narasimgha, and you just agreed with his criticism. That means you are attacking the process of worship established by the acharya. Meanwhile, you said the worship NM endorsed is -- the worship of Tamal and his band of deviant messiahs. So the worship established by the acharyas needs to be removed, and the worship of conditioned souls has to be established instead. And worse, NM thinks offering bhogha to conditioned souls is prasadam?]  

ND: If your goal is Vaikuntha, go on. 

[PADA: IF our goal is to go anywhere near Krishna, we have to follow the rules established by the acharya. If the acharya says we need to worship Lord Narasimghadev in order to purify ourselves sufficiently so that we can LATER ON approach Radha and Krishna, then that is what KRISHNA has ordered for us to do, because the acharya establishes what KRISHNA wants. We may NEVER GET to the platform of purely worshiping Radha Krishna any time soon, its a stretch, so we need to worship the other incarnations as part of the initial stages of devotion. We cannot bypass all the initial stages, and worse, we cannot discuss rasika with fools like Tamal and his gangsters?] 

ND: But Srila Prabhupada and all the parampara made it very clear, our goal is Goloka. 

[PADA: So we should stop the process ordered by the acharya, and help NM promote the worship of conditioned souls as acharyas, and that will take us to Goloka?] 

As far as your relationship with my Gurudev is concerned, it's none of my business, all I know is that there are nitya badhas and nitya siddhas, nb need ns in order to progress on the bhakti-yoga path. So I hope you know such a personality. 

Srila Prabhupada had an astounding exemplary super excellent disciple, Srila Gaur Govinda Swami Maharaja, he was such à bold preacher, he was always glorifying Srila Prabhupad, but could also say that he was controversial. Can you understand that? 

[PADA: Gaura govinda was voted in as acharya by the GBC, when their illicit sex acharya was reinstated by the GBC. What is a reinstated illicit sex acharya?]


ND: Have you heard about nara-lilas? Anyway there is always some mysteries to mysticism and esoterism.  

[PADA: Sorry, Narayana Maharaja said that our having Narasimgha worship in the Radha Krishna temple is scaring Radharani away. He thinks Radharani is ignorant? NM also insults Prahlad maharaja: 

*** Narayana Maharaja Deviates From Srila Prabhupada:

Although he claims to be a successor to Srila Prabhupada, and that Srila Prabhupada is somehow speaking through him, it should be noted that Narayana Maharaja's teachings often seriously differ from Srila Prabhupada's. This is what Narayana Maharaja has to say about Prahlada Maharaja, who is worshipped on every altar throughout ISKCON as a completely pure devotee of Krishna:

"Prahlada Maharaja was a very bona fide bhakta, and he never wanted anything worldly, but he could not serve Krsna. His bhakti was mixed with jnana, knowledge of the Lord's opulence. If you have some worldly desire, or any desire, then your bhakti may be sanga-siddha bhakti or aropa-siddha bhakti, but not pure transcendental bhakti"

(Narayana Maharaja, Hawaii, February 17th, 2001)

Yet Srila Prabhupada's verdict is very different:

"Prahlada Maharaja is the topmost example of a Vaisnava"

(Srimad-Bhagavatam 4.21.47, purport) Why is Narayana Maharaja saying that Prahlad is not a pure bhakta? As we pointed out above, Srila Bhaktivinode Thakura is worshiping Narasimghadeva too, is this jnana misra / prakrta bhakti? Prahlad Maharaja is a mahjana, the mahajanas are jnana misra / prakrta bhaktas? Reference: Srimad-Bhagavatam 6.3.20-21

svayambhur naradah sambhuh
kumarah kapilo manuh
prahlado janako bhismo
balir vaiyasakir vayam

dvadasaite vijanimo
dharmam bhagavatam bhatah
guhyam visuddham durbodham
yam jnatvamrtam asnute

Translation:

Lord Brahma, Bhagavan Narada, Lord Siva, the four Kumaras, Lord Kapila [the son of Devahuti], Svayambhuva Manu, Prahlada Maharaja, Janaka Maharaja, Grandfather Bhisma, Bali Maharaja, Sukadeva Gosvami and I (Yama) myself know the real religious principle. My dear servants, this transcendental religious principle, which is known as bhagavata-dharma, or surrender unto the Supreme Lord and love for Him, is uncontaminated by the material modes of nature. It is very confidential and difficult for ordinary human beings to understand, but if by chance one fortunately understands it, he is immediately liberated, and thus he returns home, back to Godhead. 

**** You have failed to explain why Narasimgha cannot be worshiped along with Radha Krishna deity, when we have Narasimgha worship going on right from the start of ISKCON, in the Radha Krishna temples? And now you support people who think Prahlada, our mahajana, is not very advanced? 

And Tamal is advanced, because he is a diksha guru, and the dear Tamal tree of Radha? Narayana Maharaja said he did not understand the poison issue, which is why it took him some years to catch up, well yes, he refused to talk to me about it. Gaura Govinda maharaja is another person who tries to change the teachings of Srila Prabhupada, Srila Prabhupada says we all come from Krishna's leela or sport, GGM said that is incorrect. The way to Goloka is to follow the acharyas from there and not to change their teachings on some whimsical speculation.] 

ND: You plz tell me who is your diksa and siksa gurus so that I can criticize them the way you do with mine. You want to be, right ? No problem ! Want to be a fault finder? Great service. 

I'm not going to lose my time answering to your false accusations, because obviously you have a distorted vision, a sense of humour, but no respect, no appreciation of great vaisnavas beautiful qualities. Pralhad Maharaj was given poison, did he die? 

Srila Bhaktisidhanta Prabhupad left this world when he wanted, as well as Srila Gaur Govinda Swami Maharaja, how can you just dare criticizing them. This is so sad! And you go on and on and on! So sad! 

If I had not mentioned Srimati Radharani would be scared of Lord Nrisimhadev, you would not have. Srimati and Nrisimha, this is rasabas, no interest 4 u, don't know what it is about. 

My Gurudev never said Prahlad was not a pure devotee. Do you know any? Pure devotee? Can you recognize them? RASABASA, do you understand. Where is my Gurudev insulting Prahlad Maharaj, you dummy? Failed to explain to someone who cannot understand. 

It might explain your inabilities to grab some subtleties about guru tattva! What is that? Where does it come from? SASTRAS, he, which one? I'll tell you if you're a good boy! So no more bad words about my gurus plz! Amen, at least, do you agree that Prahlad cannot serve Krsna, have you read your own quote, where my Gurudev say he is a very bonafide bhakta?

[PADA: You did not answer my question about his quote where he attacks Prahlad maharaja.]

ND: Jnani-bhakta = aisvarya, not madurya like, for example the 6 goswamis! Good. My Gurudev never said he was Srila Prabhupada's successor, because it might b u, obviously! Lord Nrisimhadev is worshiped in Mayapur along with panca tattva, not only Radha Krsna. He killed the bad Hiranyakasipu who in fact was His servant in Vaikuntha, He wanted to enjoy fighting. 

[PADA: Ok so finding fault with the worship of Lord Narasimgha is ok? Why do you say we should support fault finding? The acharya establishes the worship of Lord Narasimgha in his Radha Krishna temples, it should not be faulted. You still have not explained why we should support saying that Lord Narasimgha worship needs to stopped because its frightening Radharani? 

Why are you finding fault with the acharya? First, its not frightening Her, next, the worship is there for us to benefit from. We benefit from that worship, that is why it is established. We need to worship Narasimgha for US to become purified enough to then LATER approach Radha Krishna. 

Prahlad maharaja is a mahajana, he is not a jnana misra bhakta, he is one of our greatest mahajanas and pure devotees. Then, when we brought out the poison complaint of Srila Prabhupada, NM said I was a nonsense from bringing this up, what, because I was offending and blaming people like Tamal, you mean, the dear Tamal tree of Radha, who would never do such things? 

And NM invited me over to to his ashram to discuss all this, and then he left me sitting without discussing. Then a few years later, he says I was right all along and it just took him time to figure out, well yes, because he refused to see me and discuss this in the first place? It took him time because he thought Tamal would never do this? 

So he trusted Tamal and not the words of the acharya? 

The acharya also says, we worship Lord Narasimgha in Radha Krishna temples, now you are criticizing him as rasabasa. No its not, the neophytes have to worship Lord Narasimgha to get their sins burnt off, so then they will be eligible and purified enough to approach Radha Krishna. Before being even purified, NM says the GBC are diksha gurus? 

That is worse than rasabhasa, its declaring conditioned souls to be rati keli siddhas. Then you say, I do not understand rasa? Conditioned souls are not in rasa? Conditioned souls can absorb sins like Jesus and be diksha gurus? So you are the persons finding faults, I am asking you why do you fault the acharya? ys pd]

Brooklyn Town Hall Meeting Update

ISKCON GBC COMMITTEE MAKES ITS CASE

At the Town Hall Meeting tonight, held at the main Brooklyn Public Library and attended by nearly 130 devotees, we saw signs of the beginning of the ISKCON Reformation of 2017. Three members of the GBC spoke from the stage about the steps that had been taken by the GBC body to prevent the sale of Sri Sri Radha Govinda's temple building. The committee had no intention of discussing the problems New York devotees have had with local temple managers at this meeting. They just wanted to make their case for "no sale."

[PADA: Right, the GBC has little to say when it comes to the mistreatment of devotees, they are however very worried about buildings, big bucks and lawyers.]

When the time came for questions and answers, Ramesvara prabhu asked, in the event that the sale could not be stopped, whether the GBC would continue to be involved in encouraging and developing the NY Yatra and all of the essential preaching programs meant to bring Krishna consciousness to all quarters of our great city. He was given a guarantee that the NY Yatra would not be forsaken by the GBC at any time or under any circumstances.

[PADA: Its already been forsaken or this mess would never have happened in the first place ...] 

Then Haripriya (Shakti Assouline), who had been banned from the temple by the Temple President for speaking out against the sale of the temple, stepped up to the open microphone. She explained how she had been told to leave the temple and not return, and that other good devotees had been similarly ostracized because they had spoken out in defense of spiritual principles they had learned through Srila Prabhupada's teachings. She asked if the GBC would take action to stop this abusive practice, and the entire audience applauded her courage, agreeing that this matter should be taken up by the GBC.

[PADA: Thousands and thousands of devotees have been banned, removed, kicked out, some were beaten and some assassinated, where has the GBC been all this time? And now the GBC is suing people for printing Prabhupada's books and they are threatening to burn Prabhupada's books. Where is their committee to fix these kinds of problems? And now Malati says the book lawsuit issue is bad, for sure, but its not under the direct control of the GBC, .... is anyone at the helm of this ship? Who is in control here?]

His Holiness Bhakti Caru Swami then spoke, not as a member of the Temple Sale Committee, but as Chairman of the GBC. He affirmed that this situation of devotees being banned is of the utmost concern to the GBC body, and that he will do whatever is within his power as GBC Chairman to see that whoever has been banned from the Brooklyn temple will be re-instated without prejudice and given every opportunity to perform devotional service in Srila Prabhupada's temple, to which the entire audience showed its approval with sustained applause.

This meeting could not have had a better outcome. All glories to Srila Prabhupada! All glories to Sri Sri Radha Govinda! And all glories to the assembled Vaisnava devotees!

[PADA: Well lets see, the GBC really has to start to give the rank and file more of a say in the internal process going on within the society, or face alienating even more people, at a time when its already a ghost town in most of their temples. This is clearly too little too late, but lets see, they have made many promises in the past and come up with little or nothing to fix things. Lets see if this is all crocodile tears or if they are going to make genuine changes. ys pd] 

Birth Again // Death Again (Video)

Srila Prabhupada's warnings on the GBC

http://www.iskcontimes.com/how-the-gbc-have-spoiled-everything/

Montreal Prabhupadanugas Newsletter May 2017

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7hU3UDSCUtbVEtabXJfclNydjg/view

Garagumuni's Prabhupada Katha (May 14th Video)