MMD: Chandra prabhu says ... "a person convinced against his will is of the same opinion still." Perfect explains why ISKCON is empty. ISKCON leaders desire ... actually try to force us ... to worship of lusty degraded fools as Krishna's gurus. Against our will! That is the leader's WILL and DESIRE. Not us! Are we "convinced against our will" ... lusty people are Krishna's gurus?
NO we are NOT convinced! And then we are "not willing" to comply! So we all have to leave. Do we care if ISKCON leaders ... who are willingly trying to force us ... to worship their perverts gurus ... are wearing dhotis or pants?
Not important. Worship of sexual perverts as Krishna's gurus is NOT something we are "willing" to participate in. He is right! A person convinced against his will to worship perverts, will leave. And that looks like on purpose? To empty the temples to make a HINDU SHOW BOAT. So they can MAKE MONEY by sucking off the HINDUS.
PADA: Yep, if we are not willing to help the Hrdayananda program promote their homosexuals and pedophiles gurus as God's successors process, we can be banned, beaten, sued and killed. They are trying to force us to promote their pedophile's gurus process, and if we refuse, we can die. They want to convince us against our will, at the point of a shot gun.
But yep, Chandra prabhu is right, trying to convince us to promote that program is against our will, and against the will of all moral and religious people. But what do we expect when it is widely known one of their "gurus from Vaikuntha" is getting his genitals licked and sucked by a female disciple so she can "suck and drink all your liquids." And they want to convince us these are examples of God's successors, at the point of a shot gun?
Yup. This genital sucking business is what they are promoting as God's successors. And then then think - if we dissenters could be allowed to wear pants, we would all join them again! We would join their genital sucking sampradaya, if we were allowed to wear pants? And that is why Sulochana calls them "a guru suck-session." ys pd
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GIRIRAJ SWAMI'S LOVE LETTERS
PADA: I want to lick and suck your liquids? And this is one of the GBC's messiahs of the Jagat? Oh yeah, this is bona fide messiah's worship if we are WEARING PANTS!
Right away some GBC people said Mirabhai is a secret spy from Bangalore. Nope! She is a disciple of Giriraj and not from Bangalore, nor is there any evidence she has any connection to Bangalore. They are trying to discredit her with more lies.
KALI YUGA IS THE TIME OF THE FAKE CUNNING VICIOUS..ETC ""gurus"" TO EXIST ... SOO BE VERY MUCH AWARE .. IN CASE YOU WANT TO ADVANCE..!
Giriraj Swami's Love Letters. Screenshots of personal messenger correspondence between Giriraj Swami and Mirabai Maharani. Giriraj Swami: I love you! I adore you! I worship you! Mirabai Maharani: i love adore and worship you 💋💋 my King Giriraj Swami: Thank you very much! We are meant for each other!
Giriraj Swami I love you beyond what words can express. And I want to lick and suck and drink all your liquids! Mirabai Maharani: i love you, too and i'm pleased with your thoughts and words you have expressed to me. i am very happy with your service yours in service, mirabai maharani Giriraj Swami: Jaya! Mirabai Maharani: jaya 💋 Giriraj Swami: Are you at home now? Mirabai Maharani: yes i am just getting dressed to go out but im still naked
Giriraj Swami: Wonderful – beautiful! I can’t wait to meet you tonight, Honey. Hare Krishna.
Mirabai Maharani: Hare Krishna
Giriraj Swami: Yummy! I also want to lick your breasts! Giriraj Swami: you like!
Mirabai Maharani: i'm happy to hear that honey Giriraj Swami: You have purchased me with your love! Mirabai Maharani: it's well spent 🥰 Giriraj Swami: Thank you for saying so! Mirabai Maharani: 💋💦💗🧘 (emojis) Giriraj Swami: 😊😍😉 (emojis) Mirabai Maharani: jaya Gurudeva Giriraj Swami: You have entered deep into my heart.
Mirabai Maharani: i feel like you're within me. my ... soul Giriraj Swami: I wish to be!
Giriraj Swami: Wonderful – beautiful! I can’t wait to meet you tonight, Honey. Hare Krishna.
Mirabai Maharani: Hare Krishna
Giriraj Swami: Fantastic! Everything you do is just right – and gives me great pleasure.
Giriraj Swami: And yes, I want to play with you!
Mirabai Maharani: i love youuuu Giriraj Swami: Thank you very much! And I love you, too. Giriraj Swami: I am looking forward to our video call tonight at my bedtime. 😊 Mirabai Maharani: i am looking forward to seeing you my honey
Giriraj Swami: Jaya! Mirabai Maharani: jaya
Can't Keep Pants On M Dasi: Cyril Wohrer is genius level. Whole problem ... pants! Of course! And really ... whole problem.
Their GBC gurus ... cannot keep their friggin pants on!
And then ??? they keep stooping the followers. What is needed? Medieval chastity belts for the gurus? Cyril needs to find some way to get these gurus ... to keep their friggin pants on!
For me ??? does not matter. If I wear pants to the temple ... or not, the same snooty looks from the temple people. Oh darn ... it is the crazy Prabhupada people again!
Honest! I don't think they even know ... or care ... what I am wearing. Or not wearing. They just don't approve of Prabhupada people.
Pants argument is lame ... lamest bottom of the barrel. Lame excuse to cover up multiple crimes ... and blame the exodus on ... pants! The pants did all this, not me! HEH HEH HEH! They have no idea ... Yamaraja is not going to fall for their pants excuse? Even we are not falling for it!
PADA: He was in a car accident, evidently driving into oncoming traffic. OK he may have had some sort of medical problem. But notice, only the GBC gurus get a pile of servants, chauffeur driven vehicles, private nurses, unlimited health care etc. -- and not the peons who are still driving themselves around at 79 yrs.
Ratna Bhusana Prabhu ACBSP: I want to post some of my memories of Caru Utah who I've had the opportunity to have his association for many years:
I first met Caru and Vaibhavi when they came to Los Angeles with the festival of India program, along with Maduha. Caru took responsibility for the program which was started on the east coast but had some difficulties, many leaders didn’t want to put more money into the program but Caru developed it.
Caru gave class in the Los Angeles temple a lot and devotees were anxious to soak up the nectar of his learned classes. He also did outreach speaking on radio shows and college classes. He invited me to come to a few classes with a professor who also had a radio show.
PADA: Yes Caru was a regular speaker at various ISKCON temples, and is glorified all over GBC guru managed news sites. Unfortunately to be able to preach in ISKCON we have to help the GBC's gurus promote their illicit sex messiah's project -- or we are not allowed to speak. Often, we are not even allowed on the property.
And Ratnabushana is one of the enforcers making sure only the pedophile messiah's club folks are speaking around their temples. To say that someone was regularly allowed to speak at the pedophile messiah's club's events is not a very high advertising.
Of course we dissenters can also be silenced in other ways -- banned, beaten, sued and killed if we do not promote their program. So Caru must have made some compromise deal with the GBC's illicit sex with men, women and children gurus process in order to take a post as speaker in ISKCON, and advertise himself as ISKCON etc.
Caru loved to speak about Krishna and philosophy so eventually, as well as overseeing the festival program, and life membership program in LA , he bought a small radio station in Utah. Most people doubted he could succeed there. A radio station in a remote small town in Utah, Mormon country as well.
PADA: Yeah the Hindu life member program has morphed into the Hindu cash cow business where hardly any caucasians are coming to ISKCON. This was the starting point.
Where others doubted, Caru and his wife Vaibhavi, over many years of dedication, developed it into a huge beautiful temple with ponds and animals, with a prasadam restaurant where busloads of students come to visit.
PADA: He did make a nice temple and it has a good publicity reputation, unlike a lot of other Krishna projects, which is to his credit.
The local Morman leadership appreciate him and have donated money to help build the temple and sometimes send college students to volunteer there.
PADA: It is amazing how so many ISKCON leaders are friends with Christian ministers and churches, the ritviks of Jesus. While the ISKCON leaders have the Krishna ritviks banned, beaten, sued and killed.
Someone just said, the only problem with the Krishna ritviks is -- they do not eat cows. If there are ritviks who eat cows, ISKCON will welcome them. And that is also why ISKCON likes the Hindus, many of them, sometimes most of them, eat meat.
Now, sadly, Caru has left us and there was no mold made, another will never match such devotion, focus and dedication. Surely though, he is with Srila Prabhupad and Krishna.
PADA: Lets hope so. He was a card carrying member of the ISKCON leadership society, and as we all know there are major problems with their apa-siddhanta, including -- they have various messiah's club gurus like Giriraj -- getting their dongles licked and sucked by female disciples, or sometimes male disciples.
Caru never spoke up about these matters that we know of, and that is not allowed in Vedic principles. The Kauravas were condemned for not speaking up. Sulochana said these goody two shoes type devotees just add credibility to the deviant gurus, and are "the velvet glove that hides the iron fists."
Having said that, PADA wishes him well in his next incarnation. God speed spirit soul, your struggle here is over. ys pd
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