Krishna Soldier Dies / Ramesvara was right (for awhile) Govinda Dasi ETC. 03 29 25

Another Russian soldier, call sign "Krishna", was killed.

The post is taken from the page of one devotee:

"Time of Heroes:

Stormtrooper commander Krishna distracted three enemy Baba Yagya drones and died saving equipment and people. A fighter with the call sign Ter told RT about the heroic deed of young volunteer Krishna.

Krishna led a company of the Cossack reconnaissance and assault brigade "Dnepr". Krishna was very good at dealing with drones, shooting them down with small arms, Ter says. In August 2024, four drones attacked a convoy of ammunition and fuel in the Kherson direction. One UAV was shot down by fighters from an adjacent unit, the rest began to attack.

"Krishna gave his anti-drone cape to a young fighter and ordered us to drive the equipment into the forest, and to disperse along the forest belt. He himself began to shoot at the drones with a rifle. He understood that he would die."

(This frontline story was shared by a senior devotee, military officer Dvija Krishna Prabhu)."

PADA: The un-official count is around 930,000 Russian soldiers killed or incapacitated in Russia's war program. Another un-official count is that 1% of the male population either left the country -- or have been taken out in the war. It also looks like Russia is running out of armored military vehicles, so they are using bicycles, motorcycles, ATV off road vehicles, civilian cars and trucks, even horses and donkeys etc. We also saw videos where they are sending men back into battle, on crutches. Yeepers! 

But yep. None of these civilian vehicles offer much protection. 

A Ukraine sniper was saying how easy it is now for him to shoot at soldiers in civilian vehicles. He just shoots holes in the sides and he knows he is hitting them inside. And he is. I am not sure why people keep telling me, Russia is winning. If you are losing all these people and machinery every day, and for three years, you are "winning" what? You are winning the prize of having the biggest pile of corpses in Russia in recent history. 

It also looks like the land they "conquered" is a pile of bricks of bombed out buildings, that is now not habitable. They are also bombing their own cities in Kursk to reduce their own towns into rubble. I am the king of the pile of rubble!  

I think that is why one Russian lady made a video "Russia is turning into country of crying widows, crying mothers, and crying children who will never see their fathers again, ever." Yeah, sounds like we are winning here! 

Anyway this poor devotee soldier got wrapped up in the whole affair. Very unfortunate, but karma is always spinning for everyone, and it cannot always be avoided. So we wish this guy God speed in any event. His war here is over, and he needs to get connected to Krishna wherever he is now. ys pd

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MOLESTERS IN ISKCON

SSD: In last week, Temple President of ISKCON Rohini Temple in New Delhi (Keshava Murari Das) was caught red handed trying to molest an under age girl in the Temple. Her grandmother filed a F.I.R. against him. He has ran away from the temple.

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ACHARYA FOR THE AGE

I repost the announcement for the book Acharya for the Golden Age.

Hare Krishna dear Vaishnava, we have finally printed in English the book "Acharya for the Golden Age" The Unique Historical Position of His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada, compiled by Yasoda nandana prabhu and Narasimha prabhu. If anyone is interested in having it for a free donation please contact Yasoda nandana prabhu through his email address or through his WhatsApp number please contact him. It is a very special book. We printed 1800 copies, 1000 in Italian and 800 in English. Please come forward dear Prabhu's. Thank you

Contact Yasoda nandana prabhu on
WhatsApp +1 (562) 413-1374
j.langevin@yahoo.com

or for the Italian and also English edition
Vijaya pandita dasa
WhatsApp +393474593142
vijayapanditadasa@gmail.com
All Glories to Srila Prabhupada
Hare Krishna

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RAMESVARA WAS RIGHT (FOR AWHILE)

A letter from a concerned follower of Srila Prabhupada detailing his experience of "initiation" soon after Srila Prabhupada's "departure". Robert Grant (Ramesvara) it would be SO helpful to the future of Srila Prabhupada's movement and Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu's mission, if you came out and were honest about this MOST critical aspect of ISKCON history!! 

You know there is a GREAT and SWELLING tide of devotees that already know the truth and are just waiting for someone to lead the charge in the RIGHT direction...after 48 LONG and TRAUMATIC years!! "The truth will set you free"! The Movement CANNOT limp along on the back of a HUGE lie for the next 10,000 years! Krsna will NOT let this deceit go on forever...you know that! Why not bring this sad era to an end?

GOVINDA DASI

Dear Prabhus,
My respectful obeisances.

All Glories to Srila Prabhupada 

Thank you for sharing the obvious truth regarding our Spiritual Master's pure and perfect international society for Krishna Consciousness. It was, and still is, poisoned by the agents of Kali. Tamal left his body in a way befitting his choices during and after Srila Prabhupada's manifested presence.

My direct experience of surrendering to Srila Prabhupada is worth a review, as it relates to the power grab perpetrated by Tamal.

In 1978, I was fresh out of college and decided to travel to the Big Island of Hawaii. After wandering around for about six months, I was out of money and food. All I had was a return plane ticket back to Los Angeles. While at the Hilo airport, I was approached by a devotee named Maduha dasa. He gave me a book titled Sri Isopanisad. My flight was in 3 hours and I read the entire book twice. I was enthralled. I wanted to know, who is this A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada?

Maduha returned before my flight and invited me to live on a farm for a few weeks and there are more books to read. I accepted. I met the senior devotee and disciple of Srila Prabhupada named Guarsundara Prabhu. I studied Srila Prabhupada's books under the guidance of Gaurasundara Prabhu for 1.5 years as a celebate student. As things in this world go, the farm lease was not renewed and I flew back to Los Angeles. My takeaway from my experience at the Hawaii farm are many. Most significantly, is that Srila Prabhupada is my spiritual master. Gaurasundara enlightened all of us the true purport of guru tattva.

Now in L.A. New Dwarka, I'm an aspiring bhakta, serving Maduha and Caru Prabhus on the traveling festival preaching program. After about six months, Maduha speaks to me about taking initiation from Srila Prabhupada. He said that Ramesvara is not following the zonal acarya concoction and will be giving initiations on behalf of Srila Prabupada. Maduha said that I will become an initiated disciple of Srila Prabhupada. How could I say anything but YES! What oceans of mercy have been bestowed upon me.

Maduha went on to say that this is a rare opportunity because the other "questionable gurus", his words precisely, are giving initiations on their own behalf, not as Srila Prabhupada instructed them to His representative. A week later became the day of the initiation ceremony.

It's important to describe this seemingly unimportant detail I want to share with you. The course of my devotional life and Ramesvara's life is significantly altered in these next set of events.

The scene inside the Temple is set, the fire sacrifice is assembled. Their Lordships Rukmini Dwarkadisha are beautifully dressed as always. We are truly blessed with their darshana. The bhakta's and bhaktin's are sitting around the fire sacrifice ready for Ramesvara to begin speaking into the microphone.

For no less than two minutes, Ramesvara sat silently, eyes closed. His face was strained and his head swayed side to side, struggling with beginning to speak. Two minutes is a long time and it became a bit awkward.

I'm paraphrasing with verified accuracy from other devotees that bore witness that day and finally, he said these words:

"Actually I'm not qualified to give all of you HariNama diksa initiation. My spiritual master, there's a pause, and Ramevara turns his head to look at Srila Prabhupada seated on His Vyasasana, has somehow or other given me the service of initiating all of you on His behalf. You will all be disciples of His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada.

Instantly there was a huge roar of ectatic JAYA JAYA JAYA, drums beating and even clapping.

Now fast forward two weeks. Ramesvara disappears for two days.

He returns to New Dwarka totally distraught and visibly upset. Mother Govinda dasi, yes the original one and only, meets with Ramesvara in his quarters. Govinda dasi witnesses Ramesvara crying uncontrollably. He shares with her that Tamal summoned him to Dallas. Ramesvara arrived at the Dallas Temple to Tamals office, where he was directed by Tamal to read a pre-written letter articulating Ramesvara's resignation and expulsion from Iskcon. Tamal ordered him to go back to New Dwarka and announce to the recent group of initiates that they are not Srila Prabhupada disciples, they are your disciples. If you don't do this, then sign this letter and you are kicked out of Iskcon.

Ramesvara did not sign the letter. He returned to New Dwarka. A few days later a "vyasasana" was placed next to Srila Prabhupada in the Temple. Kusakratha Prabhu authored prayers for all of us to sing during Ramesvara's guru puja. Ramesvara held his head down, eyes shut the entire time, at every guru puja. He did not open his eyes until the singing and flower offerings stopped.

Fast forward approximately two more weeks. Two GBC members (I can't remember their names) arrived at New Dwarka and approached me. They demanded that I hand over the audio tape recording of my initiation ceremony. I told them I did not have a copy. They both pressured me to tell them who is in charge of audio recordings. I said I didn't know. 

They also threatened that I would be kicked out of Iskcon, if I didn't accept Ramesvara as my diksa guru. They said Srila Prabhupada is not my guru.
As you know, so many horrible, sinful behaviors, by these eleven offenders, occurred during the 80's and beyond. All the sinful and criminal behavior is directly related to the concocted zonal acharya system. We all witnessed Ramesvara begin a dating routine of a young 15 year old named *******. I witnessed on several late nights, Ramesvara driving away from New Dwarka, in the blue Mercedes, wearing a wig, and stopping to pick up ******* across Venice Blvd, in the alley behind the Spanish Apartments. 

He would return around 4am. Diksa guru behavior? We all know that the eleven disciples of Srila Prabhupada, blessed with being His ritvik representatives, now posing as diksa gurus, is a recipe for disaster and highly offensive to Srila Prabhupada and our parampara.

I share this true and verified history with you, Prabhus to help fill in important facts that degraded our Spiritual Master's perfect and pure society of devotees.
I spoke to Govinda dasi a few months ago and her recollection of Ramesvara's visit to Dallas is very vivid in her mind.

These events, as I describe, are true and accurate to the best of my memory. I have not and will not exaggerate or invent a single word in furtherance of the truth about what I, and many other aspiring devotees in New Dwarka, experienced in the 80's and beyond.

Incidentally, after the GBC departed New Dwarka, I was approached by many senior godbrothers, who always referred to me as their godbrother, telling me not to obey such orders from those two GBC. Always hold sacred that you are a disciple of HDG Srila Prabhupada.

Namely:
Rajendranatha Prabhu
Madhua Prabhu
Nara Narayana Prabhu
Vatsal Prabhu
Jagad Isvara Prabhu

Thank you for taking the time to read this true account of some of my experiences in the early days. I pray this letter reaches you in good health and ecstatic Krishna Consciousness. Chant Hare Krishna and be happy.
ys
Krishna Katha dasa

Niranjana Swami Health Crisis 03 28 25

The Highest Compassion

Hare Krishna Dear Friends of Vaishnavas CARE,

Below is a letter from Srila Bhakti Vijnana Goswami Maharaja:

Dear Diksha and Shiksha disciples of His Holiness Srila Niranjana Maharaj,

Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

As you may know, Maharaj is currently staying at Govardhan. He travelled there from Mayapur before Gaura Purnima and has since remained in seclusion, meeting with almost no one. In the letter published in April 2024 

https://www.niranjanaswami.net/.../0b116f9c-bc68-4756...

He himself described his condition, and the reason why he needs complete rest. The situation somewhat improved in the fall of 2024, but now unfortunately he suffers relapse. His health is fragile, and doctors overseeing his health have indicated that any additional stress could be harmful. They are working to help him restore his sleep and regain his strength.

At this time Maharaj’s greatest need is rest. He is unable to give lectures, meet with disciples seeking guidance, or respond to letters. More than ever, he needs peace and personal space. I humbly request that, for now, you refrain from sending him letters with requests or personal concerns, asking for darshans, or expecting him to give classes.

We all know how deeply Maharaj feels the pain and struggles of others — how he takes that burden upon himself, always striving to support those who rely on him. For so many years, he has selflessly helped countless disciples, godbrothers, godsisters, and others in need. But now, it’s our turn to care for him. That said we should not forget that Maharaj continues to be available through his countless recorded lectures and kirtans, his books and the personal instructions he has given followers.

The best way we can serve him right now is to be patient and allow him the time and space to recover. With proper rest, he will regain his strength and health, in due time, return to the service of supporting his disciples once again.

Maharaj is currently surrounded by a small group of dedicated devotees who take care of him. The doctors are optimistic. 

PADA: Well this is not surprising. The guy cannot sleep and rest properly. After working hard his whole life to promote his worship of illicit sex with men, women and children as God's messiahs project, so he could enable / enforce children to worship perverts and sexual deviants as their messiahs, he should take a rest! We need less people out there roaming around promoting a homosexual and pedophile guru process, to help save the world from being another one of Niranjana's victims. Niranjana has also taken karma from lots of people who are very sinful, he cannot burn that off, so now he has to suffer. And he already is.

There is no rest for the wicked, and he will not be able to rest properly for maybe the next several billion years, as he goes to be recycled into lower and lower life forms on the darkest regions for being a bogus Jesus, and taking sins from others, and promoting a group of debauchee messiahs etc. 

I almost forgot, some of his co-messiahs who he is promoting as God's successors are credited with poisoning Srila Prabhupada. And! He is "helping his God brothers" like Jayapataka -- take sins from thousands of people, resulting in these God brothers having total health collapse. 

I mean seriously, look at the state of these people he is advising to take karma and he is thus "helping." With help from friends like Niranjana swami, who needs enemies? Niranjana swami is simply another one of the enforcers in the "cult enforced ritualistic worship of homosexuals and pedophiles as God's messiahs." 

Did I forget to mention one of the ex-children of his program wrote me to ask -- who is a good mental health advisor -- after this former ISKCON child was "severely mentally, emotionally and physically mistreated" in the Niranjana swami program -- and they are now "suffering deep mental agony and anguish for years." OK his victims cannot sleep, and now -- neither can he. That is a fitting reaction.

Of course, this is a handy time to all of a sudden collapse and be unable to deal with these issues. The proverbial crap is hitting the fan at present, and these leaders would love to crawl under a rock somewhere and not have to answer for the mess they have made. Notice that the Niranjana swami site requires a log in password, they do not even let anyone on the site unless they are brainless groupies. 

He is hiding. Well the good news is he can hide for now temporary basis, the bad news is, he cannot hide forever, at some point the Yamaduttas grab a hold of their behinds and take them to be judged for all this. What all of this mess looks like -- to some of us -- is that they ruined the ISKCON movement in USA and Europe, so then they fled the scene of their crimes and went to Poland, Ukraine, Russia etc. where no one knew about their bad program, and they started to recruit from places where their history was hidden. But that is changing, people in those areas are starting to read PADA etc. 

A devotee from Russia said it is ironic that the disciples of ISKCON gurus are now on a battlefield killing each other in Ukraine. It is the destruction of the Yadu dynasty pt. II. They are destroying each other.  Yes, that is quite ironic, and also it is an example of the karma wheels catching up to the followers of these false gurus. Anyway I don't wish the guy good or bad, his karma chakra is catching up. 

If we were told not to let old Hindu ladies touch our feet, or we will suffer karma, and these ladies are semi-pious, imagine taking karma from meat eating Western people who have had illicit things going on all over the place, including eating sausages and many types of dead animals, and having abortions and who knows what else. 

That karma is way more, and they simply thought they were qualified to absorb it all -- being giant fools that they are. Now they are having big celebrations for Kadamba kanana swami and Bhakti Tirtha swami -- another pack of fools who took karma with not ability to absorb it. I cannot sleep, yeah, no rest for the wicked. ys pd   

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com  

I am following Niranjana swami's 

advice on the fast path to Patala.

DEC 2024: Recently Niranjan Swami invited Dhanurdhara to his birthday party. In Mayapur Bhavanda and Satadhanya continue to be honored and supported by the community. Lokanath is still worshipped as a respectable Sannyasi and God's representative on earth.

Hridayananda Maharaj, Malati and Brahmatirtha continue to fight to get Laxmimoni a preferential review of her case. Sivaram Swami spoke out in defense of Laxmimoni, Keshava Bharati and lobbied to get ISKCON to pay a pension to Bhaktividya purna.

Bhaktivikash swami invited a convicted child sex offender to teach the children in his school, defended the inappropriate behavior of Bhaktividya purna and Indradyumma swami. Radhanath Swami and Indradyumma Swami have also honored and defended many child sex offenders.

How effective do you think this culture of elevating, will be as a deterrent to other offenders who may be considering abusing a devotee child right now? If you are a child abuser, the Hare Krishna movement would be quite appealing!

A society, like ISKCON, whose leaders live by and therefore teach this culture of honoring known child abusers, is effectively offering an incentive to encourage the abuse of its children. The devotees that reactively jump in to defend or justify their favorite swami, and to try and explain why "in this instance things are different and we shouldn't make offenses", they are also contributing to perpetuate this culture.

When you start to look at the big picture, you eventually realize that these aren't accidental mistakes. This is intentional! There is a (rotten) playbook the leadership has been operating by for the last 50 years. 

The fact that to date we haven't seen even one of these leaders acknowledge the problem and offer to rectify the situation speaks volumes. Conversely I am yet to hear that even one of these leaders has personally ensured that even JUST ONE child abuser was handed to the police.

"Mercy for the perpetrators IS oppression for the victims".

Mayesvara Melt Down / Italy News (Sanaka Rsi) 03 27 25

MAYESVARA DASA:

“When I eventually did get to see a photo of Srila Prabhupada that somebody had taken, he was skin and bones, and it was shocking, it was like “Oh my gosh! Prabhupada looks like he has been poisoned!” “That was many peoples first impression, “he looks like he’s been poisoned!” “There were people who hadn’t seen him, they had travelled a long way, and they would come into his room and say, “Prabhupada you look like you have been poisoned.” 

Mayesvara das - Namarasa podcast: 22 Feb, 2025.

PADA: Yeah, 100% has no symptoms, 100% has symptoms. The GBC folks like Mayesvara are in melt down mode. He is now officially arguing with -- himself. Now Mayesvara is down to citing his fellow homosexual and pedophile guru program's cheer leaders like Mathura Pati / Prabhupadanugas EU as a defense of the Judas poisoners. Sorry. That is not going to work. Our position on the poison issue is being accepted more and more, and that is all there is to it. 

ys pd

 

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PADA: When Ravindra swarupa was proposing making censure restrictions on Kirtanananda in 1986, Kirtanananda argued -- since he is the successor to Krishna, and he is speaking as Krishna dictates, anyone trying to censure him is trying to censure Krishna. And it is a very serious offense to censure Krishna. I don't think the GBC has any solution for this issue. 

Simultaneously, Anuttama just publicly announced that their GBC "successors to Krishna" are often prone to "lust, anger and greed." Krishna's successors are equal to Krishna, and therefore Krishna is a debauchee, because His successors are "same in quality." First of all, we need to separate Krishna from all of this stuff, or nothing else can be resolved. Implicating Krishna in nefarious deeds is not going to fix the problems. ys pd

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PADA: Yep, when me and Sulochana were saying Kirtanananda's New Vrndavana is basically a crime operation, Ravindra swarupa was saying we are "trying to disturb the harmonious GBC program of unity which supports Kirtanananda." And he was telling people to take initiation from Kirtanananda. 

Then after 1986, Ravindra Swarupa was saying -- "Kirtanananda must be removed because he poses a threat to the unity of ISKCON." So all of a sudden Ravindra Swarupa was on our side? I think Ravindra is currently suffering from some sort of alzheimers because my friend said he saw him -- and he was "rambling incoherently." A lot of these big shot leaders supported all sorts of nonsense and then they just wandered off and left all the citizens to suffer under the mess they made ... ys pd

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ITALY NEWS: The Cost of Silence (English version)

The serious episode of physical and psychological abuse suffered by an Italian devotee named Sanaka Rsi by Cecchini Orlando alias Dayanidhi das Vanacari, president of the ISKCON temple in Athens, cannot and must not be forgotten.
Today we will tell you why it has been deliberately forgotten.

For the record, after so many years Sanaka confirmed the incident only a few days ago in a public post. Of course, he could not have done otherwise, but why did Sanaka wait until our article came out to do so?

Sanaka would have had many years to report Dayanidhi to the relevant authorities and have him arrested, but he didn't. He could have done so long after he came of age, before the statute of limitations expired, but why did he not? 

He who loves to make earthly and divine truth the purpose of his life kept this important truth hidden. Is this the behaviour of the Vaisnava? Why did he choose to behave in a manner not recommended by Brahminical culture?

At the time of the events, Sanaka was just a child and attended the gurukula (school) of the Villa Vrindavana temple in Florence.

One day the criminal Dayanidhi das Vanacari with the glowing cigarette lighter of his car burnt little Sanaka's body several times, leaving him with severe burns.
As we wrote in the previous article that day, many of Sanaka's companions witnessed the episode, but also many distinguished devotees who were aware of it. In short, in those days the Villa was full of direct and indirect witnesses of the macabre episode.

Father Satyavrata das together with his mother and sisters Sradha and Sruti cried out for revenge against Massimo Brioli alias Madhusevita Prabhu and the other ISKCON Italia representatives. In fact, the heinous act was later reported to the authorities at the time. The hours passed and the meetings of the leaders continued without ever stopping, they had to decide as soon as possible what to do otherwise the news would spread like wildfire and it would be a big problem for ISKCON Italiana.

At one point Madhusevita and his ISKCON colleagues decided to pay Sanaka Rsi for his silence and he agreed. So we ask him: Sanaka Rsi how much does your silence cost?

With the nullity clause signed by Sanaka, it was understood that every issue arising from the relationship subject to the settlement was considered definitively closed and overcome with the settlement itself; that is, it could no longer be questioned and reopened in the future.

In short, Sanaka would never, ever, under any circumstances, have to accuse his tormentor even if he had already been proven guilty of abusing him. In doing so, he allowed the demon Dayanidhi das Vanacari to roam all the temples of Italy, putting the integrity of all the children at risk.

So there was no real justice, only a bank transfer with Sanaka as the beneficiary, but which allowed these criminals and others to continue unchallenged in their abuse. Money cannot compensate for these serious abuses. These criminals deserved a trial and imprisonment, instead of getting away with a simple reimbursement of expenses, which in any case did not come from their own pockets. 

The money that ISKCON pays to cover the abuses comes from sincere donations, from the sale of books by tireless devotees, and from all income related to the temples so dear to Srila Prabhupada. Exemplary punishments are needed for these scoundrels, not fines that others have to pay anyway.

WE DO NOT DENOUNCE THESE MISDEEDS FOR PERSONAL GAIN, BUT ONLY AND EXCLUSIVELY DEFEND THE IMAGE OF AC BHAKTIVEDANTA SRILA PRABHUPADA (WHOM SANAKA RSI NEVER MENTIONS) FROM THE ACTIONS OF THESE SCOUNDRELS. THIS IS INDISPUTABLE!

OUR STRENGTH LIES IN NOT BEING CORRUPTIBLE OR EVEN BLACKMAILABLE.
WE HAVE NOT SUFFERED TRAUMA OR ABUSE LIKE SANAKA RSI AND OTHERS.
IS IT SO STRANGE TO BE MOVED ONLY BY A SENSE OF JUSTICE INSTEAD OF REVENGE?

WE BELIEVE THAT IT IS IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO KNOW THE REALITY OF THE FACTS AND NOT WHAT IS SHOWN BY THOSE WHO ACT FOR PERSONAL INTERESTS.

But you know, sometimes things are different from how they may seem.
Interestingly, on the one hand Sanaka fights on the web, on a popular facebook group administered by his father Satyavrata das using a fake profile, to defend abused children in ISKCON by dealing with CPO (Child Protection Office) issues.
He wants to appear to the world as a Ksatriya, but in reality he is a Sudra who improves the mockery of the criminal mafioso Madhusevita Prabhu and his henchmen.

Dear Sanaka, if this is your sensibility what are we going to teach our children?
Oh yeah, you don't want to have children. Your previous partner left you because you didn't want children around you, as is your current wife who is depressed for the same reason, yet you want us to believe that you are defending other people's children.

Fight against injustice by leaving all the results of karma to ME (Lord Sri Krishna). Perform the duty prescribed for you without doubt: to run away from duty is nothing but cowardice. Secondly, even the penal code provides that one can defend oneself from attackers.

It is not Vedic behaviour to hide behind karma by accepting a large monetary reward. If your comrades become victims of your own punishment because you did not help them, that money will be soiled with their blood. 

PADA: It is a very difficult situation for the victims of abuse in ISKCON and I feel bad for them. They did not get much support -- hardly at all -- from leaders -- or often much worse  -- from their own parents. Or worse, various leaders or even parents pushed back on their complaints and nullified their suffering as a non-problem. The victims were often re-victimized by a lack of support. 

OK some of them felt so unsupported they took their own lives. There is what I believe a problem of severe mental trauma or PTSD symptoms in a number of these victims, and therefore we should not expect them to come out now as savior warriors to defend dharma.

Another result, most of the abuse was never relayed to the police and authorities. Neither did parents launch legal challenges against the leaders or the webs and nests of molesting the leaders were co-creating and enabling. In sum, most of the victims were pretty much left to fend for themselves out on their own. There was little to none support system. Ok Now we have all these ISKCON therapy experts, like Mahatma, many times the same people who caused the problems in the first place.

Sanaka rsi has done more than probably any other ex-kuli as far as I can see. Some of the local youths here ran off to Narayan Maharaja and they never make any commentary anywhere on anything. Basically, I believe they are just trying to lay low and stay out of the issues, seeing how badly people get treated for forwarding issues. So I give him a lot of credit for doing more than almost any other ex-kuli student, and more than nearly cent percent of the ISKCON seniors, parents, adults and leaders. 

So I think it is a mistake to say he should have done more. Same thing happens to me all the time, well you should have done more. OK but who volunteered me -- to do anything? Why do people always volunteer me, or Sanaka Rsi, or anyone else to fix things, when most of them -- did nothing to help? 

Anyway a lot of finger pointing is just getting started here, and that will go on for some time. Everyone now knows it is a mess, and they are trying to shift the blame to all sorts of other people, but everyone in this mess has had a responsibility to help prevent it, or now clean it up. 

Me and Sanaka did something at least. Credit should be given to him because credit is due more -- to people like him -- than nearly cent percent of the rest of the lot.  

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com    

The Gopis’ Example of the Purest Love 03 25 25

The Gopis’ Example of the Purest Love

As the great devotee Bhishma prepares to leave this world, he remembers Lord Krishna’s greatest devotees.

By His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada

Lecture given in New York City on May 22, 1973.

Krishna’s greatest devotees are simple village girls who love Him without caring for His Godhood.

lalita-gati-vilasa-valguhasa-

pranaya-nirikshana-kalpitorumanah

kritam anukritavatya unmadandhah

prakritim agan kila yasya gopa-vadhvah

“Let my mind be fixed upon Lord Sri Krishna, whose motions and smiles of love attracted the damsels of Vrajadhama [the gopis]. The damsels imitated the characteristic movements of the Lord [after His disappearance from the rasa dance].” – Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.9.40

[Pradyumna Dasa reads Srila Prabhupada’s purport:] “By intense ecstasy in loving service, the damsels of Vrajabhumi attained the qualitative oneness with the Lord by dancing with Him on an equal level, embracing Him in nuptial love, smiling at Him in joke and looking at Him with a loving attitude. The relation of the Lord with Arjuna is undoubtedly praiseworthy by devotees like Bhishmadeva, but the relation of the gopis with the Lord is still more praiseworthy because of their still more purified loving service. By the grace of the Lord, Arjuna was fortunate enough to have the fraternal service of the Lord as chariot driver, but the Lord did not award Arjuna with equal strength. The gopis, however, practically became one with the Lord by attainment of equal footing with the Lord.

“Bhishma’s aspiration to remember the gopis is a prayer to have their mercy also at the last stage of his life. The Lord is satisfied more when His pure devotees are glorified, and therefore Bhishmadeva has not only glorified the acts of Arjuna, his immediate object of attraction, but also he has remembered the gopis, who were endowed with unrivalled opportunities by rendering loving service to the Lord. The gopis’ equality with the Lord should never be misunderstood to be like the sayujya liberation of the impersonalist. The equality is one of perfect ecstasy, where the differential conception is completely eradicated, for the interests of the lover and the beloved become identical.”

Prabhupada: Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu said, ramya kachid upasana vraja-vadhu-vargena ya kalpita: There is no better method of worship than the system invented by the gopis. The gopis’ invention of worshiping Krishna was to remain always Krishna conscious, without material profit. That is the superexcellence of the gopis. They never expected any return from Krishna. That was not their business. “Krishna, we have done so much for You. You cannot give us this benediction?” No, they never asked like that. That is the first-class worship. “Krishna, You take whatever You like from us, but we do not ask anything, neither do we have any need.” This is the gopis’ worship. “We have got everything to give You, and we have no need to ask from You.”

Generally people worship God because they are needy, artah artharthi. Artah means diseased, and artharthi means in need of money. People generally go to church or temple when they are suffering from some ailments or need money, these two classes. Another two classes: jijñasuh, jñani. Jñani means one who is after pure knowledge, and jijñasuh means one who is inquisitive to know what is the nature of God. These two are considered a higher section, but they are not bhaktas. There are many philosophers, and they also talk of God, but they are not bhaktas. But because they are talking of God, they are getting some benefit. If you handle fire, you perceive some warmth automatically.

These four classes are not devotees – artah, artharthi, jñani, and jijñasuh. But because they come to Krishna for some benefit, some way or other they offer their service, because praying is service. There are nine kinds of service:

shri-prahrada uvacha

shravanam kirtanam vishnoh

smaranam pada-sevanam

archanam vandanam dasyam

sakhyam atma-nivedanam

“Prahlada Maharaja said: Hearing and chanting about the transcendental holy name, form, qualities, paraphernalia and pastimes of Lord Vishnu, remembering them, serving the lotus feet of the Lord, offering the Lord respectful worship with sixteen types of paraphernalia, offering prayers to the Lord, becoming His servant, considering the Lord one’s best friend, and surrendering everything unto Him (in other words, serving Him with the body, mind and words) – these nine processes are accepted as pure devotional service. One who has dedicated his life to the service of Krishna through these nine methods should be understood to be the most learned person, for he has acquired complete knowledge.” (Bhagavatam 7.5.23–24)

Vandanam, offering prayers, is service. But when this service is rendered for some motive, to mitigate suffering, artah artharthi, or to satisfy some inquires, it is not pure devotion.

Not Seeing Krishna as God

The gopis’ activities are the supreme platform of pure devotion. For them there is no other business. The gopis are not interested to know philosophically whether Krishna is God, although they are seeing at every step that Krishna is God. Mother Yashoda is seeing that Krishna is God, and the gopis are also. Gopi-jana-vallabha giri-vara-dhari. Krishna is lifting Govardhana Hill. Who can do that except God? They are seeing it; still they do not know that Krishna is God. “Krishna is wonderful,” that’s all. They do not like to know whether Krishna is God or not. They want to love Krishna. Krishna may be God or not God; it doesn’t matter.

If you love somebody there is no consideration what he is – rich man or poor man, educated or uneducated. Love has no such consideration. Similarly, the gopis’ love for Krishna was pure. There was no consideration that Krishna was God; therefore they wanted to dance with Him. No – Krishna wanted to dance with them; therefore they came to Krishna. Krishna is calling by the vibration of His flute in the dead of night. So all these young girls – they are all married, some of them are mothers – immediately left their home. That is described in Srimad-Bhagavatam.

Some of them were cooking; some of them were breast-feeding the children; some of them were feeding the husband or the father. In this way every one of them was engaged. But as soon as Krishna’s flute was heard in the dead of night, they left home.

Generally in India for young girls the guardians are the father, the husband, the brother – all male members. They forbade the gopis. “Where are you going?” But the gopis didn’t care. No love for so-called children, no love for home, no love for brother, father, or no respect. Krishna. That is the gopis’ superexcellence.

Practice to Think of Krishna

That is being explained here, and Bhishmadeva, at the point of his death, is relishing it. These things are to be learned. Unless we are practiced to think of Krishna always, how at the time of death we can think of Him? Therefore Kulashekhara says,

krishna tvadiya-padapankaja-pañjarantam

adyaiva vishatu me manasa-raja-hamsah

prana-prayana-samaye kapha-vata-pittaih

kanthavarodhana-vidhau smaranam kutas te

“My Lord Krishna, I pray that the swan of my mind may immediately sink down to the stems of the lotus feet of Your Lordship and be locked in their network; otherwise at the time of my final breath, when my throat is choked up with cough, how will it be possible to think of You?” (Mukunda-mala-stotra 33) Maharaja Kulashekhara, a king and a great devotee, is praying to Krishna. “Krishna, this is the opportune time. Now I am healthy. I am quite in good health, so let me die immediately, thinking of You. Because my whole purpose is to think of You, of Your pastimes, at the time of death.”

Generally at the time of death, kapha-vata-pittaih, the whole system becomes disarranged. There is coughing, there is headache, there is some pain. This is the general system. Sometimes these are so intolerable that the man who is going to die cries. The system within the body is so complicated that at any time it can be disarranged, and it becomes a great source of pain.

The arrangement at the time of death becomes so dangerously painful that one leaves this body: “No more.” This is death. This bodily arrangement becomes so painful. For example, one commits suicide when a situation is too painful. One wants rescue by committing suicide. Similarly, when the bodily pains are too severe, then the living entity cannot live in this body. Tyaktva deham: he gives up this body.

We have to give up this body. That we forget. People have become misguided. In our country some astrologer has said that one big politician has become one of two dogs in Scandinavia. Now here, for his previous material body people have erected museums and statues and he is being worshiped by so many methods. But the spirit soul – which was the politician actually, not this body – has taken birth as a dog. This is their mistake. Where the politician has gone and how, what he is doing, they do not know. But they are concerned with the body.

My Guru Maharaja used to say, “One man is drowning, and a brave man comes – ‘I’ll save him.’ He jumps into the water and brings back the coat and shirt: ‘Now this man is saved.’” What will people say? “What a nonsense he is. He has brought his coat and shirt, and the man is saved?” Similarly, these rascals are dealing with the coat and shirt of the living entity, but they have no knowledge in the university or anywhere else where the soul has gone. These rascals have no knowledge. They are simply concerned with this external body.

Education in the Gita

Ninety-nine percent of the population are interested in this bodily concept of life. Perhaps we are the only institution in the world that is teaching that you are not this body. This is the wonder of the Krishna consciousness movement. We are the only institution throughout the whole world teaching people, “My dear sir, you are not this body. You are different from the body, and after death you get another body.”

dehino ’smin yatha dehe

kaumaram yauvanam jara

tatha dehantara-praptir

dhiras tatra na muhyati

“As the embodied soul continuously passes, in this body, from boyhood to youth to old age, the soul similarly passes into another body at death. A sober person is not bewildered by such a change.” Simple education in the Bhagavad-gita (2.13), but they do not understand. There are big, big scholars, but they are rascals, all rascals. Our difficulty is that these rascals are going on as scholars. Dehatma-buddhih. Their life is the bodily concept of life, and they are passing as scientists, scholars, leaders, politicians. And they are leading. Andha yathandhair. They are blind, and they are leading us, so we are also put into difficulty.

Only this Krishna consciousness movement can save the human civilization and get people raised to the platform of the gopis. We have got such a nice thing – these gopis’ unalloyed Krishna love. That is wanted.

Thank you very much.

Sri Krishna’s Transcendental Form and Attributes

Sri Krishna’s form glistens with the black mascara of the sweetness of His nectarean handsomeness. His complexion is the color of a blue lotus flower or a sapphire. His complexion is as enchanting as an emerald, a tamala tree, or a group of beautiful dark clouds. He is an ocean of nectarean handsomeness. He wears yellow garments and a garland of forest flowers. He is decorated with various jewels, and He is a great reservoir of the nectar of many transcendental pastimes. 

He has long, curling hair, and He is anointed with many fragrant scents. His handsome crown is decorated with many different flowers. His handsome forehead is splendidly decorated with tilaka markings and curling locks of hair. The playful movements of His raised, dark eyebrows enchant the hearts of the gopis. His rolling eyes are as splendid as red and blue lotus flowers. The tip of His nose is as handsome as the beak of Garuda, the king of birds.

His charming ears and cheeks are decorated with earrings made of various jewels. His handsome lotus face is as splendid as millions of moons. He speaks many charming jokes, and His chin is exquisitely handsome. His handsome, smooth neck bends charmingly. It is decorated with a necklace of pearls, and its beauty enchants the residents of the three planetary systems. 

Decorated with a necklace of pearls and with the Kaustubha gem, which shines like lightning, Krishna’s handsome chest longs to enjoy the company of the beautiful gopis. Decorated with bracelets and armlets, Krishna’s arms hang down to His knees. His reddish lotus hands are decorated with various auspicious signs. Krishna’s hands are beautifully decorated with the auspicious signs of a club, conchshell, barleycorn, parasol, half-moon, rod for controlling elephants, flag, lotus flower, sacrificial post, plow, pitcher, and fish.

Krishna’s charming abdomen is the pastime abode of handsomeness. His nectarean back seems to long for the playful touch of the beautiful gopis. The nectarean lotus flower that is Lord Krishna’s hips bewilders the demigod Cupid. Krishna’s thighs are like two beautiful plantain trees that charm the hearts of all women. Krishna’s knees are very splendid, charming, and handsome. His charming lotus feet are decorated with jeweled ankle bells. 

Krishna’s feet have the luster of roses, and they are decorated with various auspicious markings, such as the markings of the disc, half-moon, octagon, triangle, barleycorn, sky, parasol, waterpot, conchshell, cow’s hoofprint, swastika, rod for controlling elephants, lotus flower, bow, and jambu fruit. Krishna’s handsome lotus feet are like two oceans filled with the happiness of pure love. His reddish toes are decorated with the row of full moons that are His toenails. Although we have sometimes compared Krishna’s handsomeness to various things, nothing can actually be equal to it. In this place we have given a small indication of Krishna’s handsomeness to arouse the attraction of the reader.

– From Srila Rup Goswami’s Sri Sri Radha-Krishna Ganoddesha Dipika (Part 2, Texts 1–19); translation by Kushakratha Dasa

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ATTENTION: IMPORTANT COMMUNICATION!

THE GURU'S BUSINESS

After our previous article on the atrocious physical and psychological abuse perpetrated by Orlando Cecchini alias Dayanidhi das Vanacari against the then child Sanaka Rsi, how did the mafioso Massimo Brioli alias Madhusevita Prabhu respond?

He, who is the GBC head of the Italian ISKCON, thought well of ordering all his people to publicise in unison on the web the certificates of esteem expressed towards him by some foreign ISKCON GBC members.

As if these others could somehow act as guarantors for him, saving him both from the embarrassment of the violence he has just recounted, but also from his personal abyss, which will probably lead him to prison with consequent forced resignation.

But does he really believe that Italians are so stupid and naive as to take the bait for this clear and ridiculous political move? But then what has politics got to do with the Krishna devotee movement? Unfortunately, when so much money is at stake, the dance of politics with its dirty power games takes over. 

This politics has practices that conform to certain principles or directives in the exercise of an activity or decision-making power, which in this case becomes a full-fledged mafia association. This is governed by the law of omertà and secrecy, which also exerts control over illicit economic activities, as in the case of Madhusevita and his accountant Radharaman.

Often these activities are carried out by cruel and unscrupulous people who are also perverted to the detriment of children. To date, more than 2000 children have been sexually and physically abused by Hare Krishna devotees.

But then we ask ourselves: does this mafioso Madhusevita Prabhu, leader of the Hare Krishna in Italy, really believe that he can fool the Italians, they who have gained so much experience precisely with corrupt politicians or in dealing with mafiosi? Why is it that after the article on the serious violence of Dayanidhi Prabhu known as ‘the loan shark’ no one apologised to Sanaka or at least no one mentioned it?

On the contrary, Madhusevita made people believe that the situation was under control, an all-Italian behaviour that we are already familiar with thanks to the characters in one part of our politics. But does Madhusevita really believe that his political and Masonic strategy can avoid the storm of the ongoing investigations against him for his serious misdeeds of more than 40 years?

Instead, Robert Grant a.k.a. Ramesvara das contacted us (the screenshot is in the comments below) saying that he feels sad and upset about the behaviour of Dayanidhi das Vanacari and Madhusevita Prabhu and expresses solidarity with the innocent victims (Sanaka and the sexually abused girls).

He who was once the undisputed leader of the entire GBC ISKCON and now lives in Mayapur and hangs out with the same people who are in the photos with Madhusevita put on the web. Yet he himself is directly involved in the murder of Sulochan Prabhu, sexually abused a Gurukula girl for many years and was involved in major drug trafficking. They made books and documentaries about him and all these facts are known all over the world.

Ah yes, but in Italy there are those who do not understand English and cannot inform themselves on these matters and so they only trust what Madhusevita Prabhu tells them in classes. In America, on the other hand, they know everything and that is why some self-proclaimed gurus like Radanath Swami or Indradyumna Swami are rightly seen as criminals over there. But then they come to our country and do their own thing.

All these people think they are safe because nobody is controlling them, there is no ministry to control the GBCs and what they do, you see?

Srila Prabhupada, before he left the body, had to take control of the GBCs to correct their mistakes. Who is there today who can do the same thing? The GBCs themselves should set an example in following all the governing principles and practices of devotional service, but unfortunately this does not happen.

They fail to control themselves, Srila Prabhupada said: ‘First save yourself, then save others’. If they cannot save themselves, how can they instruct others?
Surely the great positions must be taken away from them, as Srila Prabhupada said.

He said that because many men thought they were great devotees, they wanted great positions to feel happy. But if they abuse these positions, these must be taken away. Srila Prabhupada said that if the position is very big, the responsibility is very big and if someone abuses his position, in the next life he will be born as a shudra. 

He also mentioned the possibility of ending up in the infernal planets.

When he discovered that one of his disciples was sexually abusing children, he first said, ‘He should be hanged’. This happened in America and he did not allow the person to return to his service of caring for children in the movement. This is what should happen to disgraced GBC members. They should be permanently removed from their positions. We do not need such people within the GBC.

The only thing that can stop devotees who have a tendency to illegally exploit other people is to immediately report their activities to the relevant authorities as soon as they are discovered. If they are found to be molesting children or if they are found to be stealing funds or having affairs with other people's wives, whatever they are doing wrong, if it is against the law, they should be reported to the relevant authorities not run by devotees.

Devotees do not have the right to conceal reports of child rape, for example, to protect GBCs or gurus who like to do it. It is against the law, so they should be reported and prosecuted and never allowed to become GBCs again.

In Italy, in addition to the competent authorities, you also have the support of well-known television programmes that investigate fraud and illegality with great success and are sometimes instrumental in the resolution of many criminal and civil cases. We must wake up! Many people in Italy are already doing this, why don't you do it too?

Do you love Srila Prabhupada and all those who have really acted to give you and your children a spiritual future, yes or no? We have been contacted by Polish devotees who have asked why Indradyumna (who has so many disciples there) has decided to do his next tour in Italy? 

They say that he won't get any money from them there and are convinced that he has chosen to come to Italy because Italians are notoriously naive and easily deceived. Apart from the fact that Indradyumna is also attracted to young girls, but that's another matter.

This is why Madhusevita Prabhu has taken over our country with his mafia-like conduct, aided by the omertosi or those who think he is a saint. Do you realise?
In the Mahabarata, witnessing the cruel abuse of the Pandavas and Draupadi, the Kaurava princes and their allies remained shamefully silent, allowing injustice to prevail.

This silence was not only a moral failure, but a complicity that stained their souls and their lineage. Cicero's famous phrase, ‘truth is as corrupted by lies as by silence’, resonates with the tragedy of this moment. By not defending what is right, these devotees become accomplices to a lie that manifests itself in the oppression of their own brothers.

Their inaction not only allows injustice to flourish, but also triggers devastating consequences for their very existence. Silence distorts the essence of truth and justice, sowing the seeds of inevitable destruction.
Jay Srila Prabhupada!

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PADA: This all started in 1997 when I got "the 1977 poison tapes," and many people, ok most people (even some of the so-called ritviks) thought I had gone bonkers. This is another PADA nuts-so idea! Well maybe not! 

It looks to me like Srila Prabhupada's poison complaint is a very serious issue, and is being taken more and more seriously by more and more people. Bhagavan das has been recently complaining about the presentation of the poison issue saying, it looks horrible that a spiritual man was poisoned! Well yeah, that means these leaders are worried about the issue taking hold, because it makes them look compromised with a very evil program. Or even, the most evil program in Vaishnava history.

Yeah it does look bad, no one can disagree, but what all of these big gurus did after 1978 was also a type of poisoning of the society. As Dhira govinda says, some people are glad to find out that this poison issue was the root of the whole poison tree, because it makes everything else that happened understandable. 

It is what it is. Srila Prabhupada makes a poison complaint, audio and toxicology experts say there is further evidence, and it looks like there is no easy counter explanation for all this. I would have to also say, anyone who did this to a pure devotee is in for one hellava bumpy ride in their future lives. 

I am just relieved to see it is coming out -- at all -- after all the negative nay saying, back biting, denial, push back etc that went against me for such a long time. It looks like the wind is picking up on this issue, and that is Krishna's arrangement IMHO. Sorry, the truth shall set us free. And the truth is -- Srila Prabhupada opened the door on this issue, and I believe he expected us to enter that door and pursue the issue. ys pd 

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PADA: Here is an interesting analysis from Australia. The leaders are often harsh, cruel, immature, belittling, bullying, impersonal, discouraging younger devotees, and so on and so forth. Umm, and these guys are the gurus? No wonder so many rank and file are unhappy then! 

Of course we also find some of the so-called ritviks are behaving badly towards others as well. A lot of maturing is needed all round. 

The good news is, more people are pointing to these types of probems and exposing the issues, so there is a sort of grass roots independent self help society forming outside of ISKCON. But yeah, if gurus are behaving badly, it is going to create a negative impression of the whole religion. 

That is why the religion has been slowed, stunted and growth has been harmed, and badly in many cases. Now there are a bunch of ISKCON "trauma therapy advisors," a real big out cropping these days. Well yeah, but what kind of religion causes trauma to its citzens? Anyway, interesting points here. 

Personally, I have to sanctuary myself from all the madness from time to time, it is really sometimes a little overwhelming. Poor Srila Prabhupada and Krishna wanted to help us, but alas, they cannot always save people who do not want saving. Immature, harsh, bully, and guru? Told ya that was a problem!

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com

ISKCON today on March 22, 2025, is still in its very early immature pioneering years of attempting to introduce Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu's great sankirtan to the entire world. The present immature inexperienced leaders in ISKCON, still have a lot to learn about genuinely caring and guiding the spiritual welfare of all aspiring devotees of Krsna and offer encouragement and love.

Remember, all aspiring devotees have voluntarily given their life to ISKCON, without wanting any financial payment, (at least it was like that in the beginning years of ISKCON). Each aspiring fragile devotee deserves to be treated with respect and kindness, otherwise, if a young devotee is treated badly, then that devotee will go on and treat others badly too, this I saw and experienced over the years.

In other words, leading devotees and sannyasis should learn how to properly support, nurture and inspire ALL devotees and congregation with respect and encouragement, so they can voluntarily choose to serve in their own unique capacity. No two individual jiva-souls (devotees) are the same, each are unique in front of Guru and Kṛṣṇa. 

If this reassurance of self-confidence, where the aspiring devotee is always being nurtured, given confidence and encouraged to voluntary contribute as the individual unique servant of Krsna they really are, is achieved by the ISKCON leadership today, then each young aspiring devotee will be inspired to offer their very best service. Instead of being forced with harsh and often threatening words and demands to artificially surrender, to only do what you are told to do without personal contributions, or risk getting cleverly kick out of ISKCON for not being their "yes" man or women.

It is a fact many have been cleverly forced to do as they are told by being bullied and impersonally humiliated into submission in front of others, by breaking one's individual spirit really meant to voluntary offer your own personal unique contributions. Such humiliating dress down is openly and coldly done in front of other young impressionable devotees by these immature ISKCON so called leaders, including a sannyasi GBC bully, instead of being taken aside and spoken to privately, confidentially and caringly.

So much damage was done by these immature nonsense ISKCON leaders over years, that left life long impressions on all those who heard them belittling and putting down devotees often making them the butt of jokes, who gave their life to Prabhupada with out any desire for any payment.

Many were often impersonally and repeatedly treated like this over the years in ISKCON in Australia, one devotee in front of others was told by a nonsense sannyasi to put his head in the toilet and pull the chain, or would bring up a confidential letter Prabhupada personally wrote to one devotee chastising him, using it to humiliate him and put him down in front of others in a class saying, "You should see the letter Prabhupada wrote him."

Such nonsense impersonal bullying only destroys the aspiring devotee's fragile emotions of self-respect, self-expression and finding the encouragment to offer their own individual unique voluntary contributions. So many leaders in ISKCON over the years have cleverly used harsh, threatening and nasty belittling words to destroy the character of many young devotees, by breaking down their individual attempts of personal achievements by making them feel worthless and useless without them, just so they have control under their bogus heading of "surrender prabhu!"

This I witnessed and experienced many times over the years, and they know who they are. Such impersonal treatment of an aspiring devotee over the years only deadens their character, destroys self esteem, self confidence and self worth.
Sadly, this happened way too much over the years in ISKCON.

Srila Prabhupada – “Love means you take and you give also. Suppose if you love somebody and you simply take from them, but you don't give anything in return. Oh, do you think that is very good? No, it is not good to use people like that, that is not love, it is exploitation! If I go on simply taking from you, and don't offer you anything, that is simply exploitation not love!”(Lecture BG, Ch 9 text 2-5, New York City, Nov 23, 1966)

Srila Prabhupada – “Love is reciprocal, voluntary, good exchange of feeling. Then there is love. Not by force, no, Krsna does not want to become a lover like that, ‘You love me, otherwise I shall kill you!” (Washington DC July 8, 1976)

Śrīla Prabhupāda – “Love means "two-persons," I must deal with you open-hearted, you must deal with me open-hearted, then there is love. So if you want to love Kṛṣṇa, then these things must be there.” (Aug 9, 1976, Tehran)

Srila Prabhupada – “The impersonalist philosophy is oneness so how there be love with just one? Is it possible? Have you got any such experience that love means one? No. Love means two. There must be two, the lover and the beloved. Kṛṣṇa is already lover. He loves you so much that He's trying to get you back. That is Kṛṣṇa's attempt. "Please, My dear boy, or My dear friend, My dear servant.” 

(Lecture SB, Canto 2 Ch 1 text 3, Paris, June 12, 1974)

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Chapter 8: Attaining the Supreme

TEXT 8

abhyasa-yoga-yuktena

cetasa nanya-gamina

paramam purusam divyam

yati parthanucintayan

SYNONYMS

abhyasa—practice; yoga-yuktena—being engaged in meditation; cetasa—by the mind and intelligence; na anya-gamina—without being deviated; paramam—the Supreme; purusam—Personality of Godhead; divyam—transcendental; yati—achieves; partha—O son of Prtha; anucintayan—constantly thinking of.

TRANSLATION

He who meditates on the Supreme Personality of Godhead, his mind constantly engaged in remembering Me, undeviated from the path, he, O Partha [Arjuna], is sure to reach Me.

PURPORT

In this verse Lord Krsna stresses the importance of remembering Him. One's memory of Krsna is revived by chanting the mahamantra, Hare Krsna. By this practice of chanting and hearing the sound vibration of the Supreme Lord, one's ear, tongue and mind are engaged. This mystic meditation is very easy to practice, and it helps one attain the Supreme Lord. Purusam means enjoyer. Although living entities belong to the marginal energy of the Supreme Lord, they are in material contamination. 

They think themselves enjoyers, but they are not the supreme enjoyer. Here it is clearly stated that the supreme enjoyer is the Supreme Personality of Godhead in His different manifestations and plenary expansions as Narayana, Vasudeva, etc.

The devotees can constantly think of the object of worship, the Supreme Lord, in any of His features, Narayana, Krsna, Rama, etc., by chanting Hare Krsna. 

This practice will purify him, and at the end of his life, due to his constant chanting, he will be transferred to the kingdom of God. Yoga practice is meditation on the Supersoul within; similarly, by chanting Hare Krsna one fixes his mind always on the Supreme Lord. The mind is fickle, and therefore it is necessary to engage the mind by force to think of Krsna. One example often given is that of the caterpillar that thinks of becoming a butterfly and so is transformed into a butterfly in the same life. Similarly, if we constantly think of Krsna, it is certain that at the end of our lives we shall have the same bodily constitution as Krsna.

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WAYNE BOYD (ex-Vipramukhya swami)

March 15

I believed in reincarnation for 50 years. Now I'm an atheist. Please don’t be offended! I can't help that I don't believe.

It takes a lot of courage and honesty to reevaluate deeply held beliefs, especially ones that shaped my life for so long. Reincarnation offers a very appealing narrative: continuity, justice, purpose — an explanation for why things happen and what comes after death. For many, it's a comforting thought, a way to make sense of suffering and inequality.

For years, I was inspired by Krishna's words in the Bhagavad-gita: "For the soul there is neither birth nor death at any time. He has not come into being, does not come into being, and will not come into being. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing, and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain." I took great comfort in believing that I was not this body — that there was something eternal and indestructible within me.

And for a long time, I was so immersed in my beliefs that even the concept of atheism felt offensive. It wasn't just a disagreement — it felt dangerous, as if God would punish me for daring to question. After all, wasn't doubt supposed to be a sign of spiritual weakness? 

But then I asked myself: Why would God punish us for looking honestly at the world? Why would any loving or just deity create a world of such complexity and beauty and then get angry because we used the minds we were supposedly given to try to understand it?

In the end, giving myself permission to ask — to really question — was what freed me. I had to reassure myself that even if Krishna were real, he wouldn't be a vindictive god who would punish inquiry. And in that quiet act of permission, I found a clearer understanding of myself than I ever had as a sannyasi.

In the Hare Krishna tradition, there's so much talk of self-realization — of discovering who you really are beyond the body. But ironically, I found greater self-realization through science than I ever did through religion.

Religion told me I was an eternal soul trapped in a temporary body, and that the world I experienced was an illusion — maya. But science has shown me something far more awe-inspiring and real: I am made of molecules forged in ancient stars. My consciousness, my thoughts, my sense of "I am," arise from the amazing, intricate activity of neurons firing in my brain — not from a mysterious soul lodged somewhere inside me.

Although we feel like we are "not these bodies," the evidence says otherwise. When the brain stops functioning, consciousness disappears. There is no credible scientific evidence that it goes on or takes a new form.

Some people point to the work of Dr. Ian Stevenson and others as "proof" of reincarnation. I used to lean on those cases too, but when you really examine them, you find they rely on anecdotal stories gathered in cultures that already believe in reincarnation. That's not science. And just because something "hasn't been disproved" doesn't make it true. If that were the case, we'd be forced to believe in every fairy tale ever told.

Atheism is what you're left with when you follow reason and evidence where they lead — even if it's uncomfortable. It doesn't offer easy answers, but it offers honest ones. And in that honesty, I’ve found a deeper self-realization — a truer sense of what it means to be alive, to be human, to be part of this vast and beautiful universe.

The universe doesn't care about us. But we can care about each other. And to me, that's far more real — and far more meaningful — than anything I ever believed before.

PADA: Great, except the cells in the body are constantly 24/7 being re-generated while other cells die off and are eliminated as waste. After some time -- none of the cells we have today will still be part of our future body. But we will remain the same conscious entity because we are the soul or eternal consciousness. 

Anyway, this is what happens to a person who becomes a guru artificially and without authority. They make offenses, and then they degrade. Vipramukhya was one of the GBC's voted in gurus, a resident of Krishna loka no less, and now he does not even believe in God or the soul. So this is a warning to all of us, beware of taking artificial posts of spiritual authority, because Krishna will punish a person who does that -- and cast that person down to lower and lower realizations and eventually, lower life forms. 

The good news is, Vipramukhya did say he felt sick everytime he initiated someone because he was taking their karma. So he quit doing that. Yep, that was actually a very intelligent observation. 

Satsvarupa also says he has to battle constantly with doubts that Krishna is a myth. So these fake gurus can start to doubt the existence of God, which is very sad indeed. It means they will find themselves in lower life forms in the future -- such as cock roaches, spiders, worms, insects, plants, trees, etc. 

I just captured an ugly looking big black spider and escorted him out the door. Good luck out there fella! Oh yeah, he was once a big swami and look at his state now! 

But if we are just a pile of atoms all randomly moving and running amok all over the place, then there is no purpose to existence. The bad news for them is, there is a soul that continues after this body. And Srila Prabhupada says the atheists receive very severe punishments. 

So Vipramkhuya is going to be in for a short, sharp, shock when he leaves his body, and finds himself bound up by the ropes of the Yamaduttas, being chased by their hounds. Very sad that he had a chance to elevate himself, and he fell off the train going to Vaikuntha, and ended up in extreme ignorance. He is more ignorant than the common man who at least understands there is a higher being who controls the universe. 

Personally, I can barely lift a bag of cement. Yet someone else is out there lifting this entire planet and many other planets that are way bigger than this one, and He is making all these millions of very heavy planets float like cotton puffs in space. The person doing that weight lifting has immense power and intelligence, which is why these planets never collide with one another and so on. 

There is no way this could all be going on with random movements of atoms and planets etc. -- flying all around randomly hither and thither. There is a whole lot of higher intelligent thinking required to keep all this whole creation functioning and glued together. 

One other big devotee who was very prominent in the 1970s saw me in San Francisco some years back and he told me he is now an atheistic Buddhist. There is nothing left to experience when you die, it all ends, you just cease to exist. Sure dude!

A few months after that -- he was across the street from the temple -- somehow -- outside his girlfriend's house at 2AM in his underwear. She had locked the door and would not let him back inside. So he was yelling and knocking. 

Then the police came and all that, it was quite a big scene. So we all joked about it. He left Krishna and went back to chasing sex life, and now he is like the mule who gets kicked in the face by the female mules. Hee hee. Anyway not believing in God and the soul is ignorance, and that is what keeps us locked into the material world. 

Sad that he could not be saved, but we have to want to be saved in the first place -- if we expect any help from Krishna. My desire to be saved in not that strong either, but just saying there is no creator is -- not something that makes any sense to me. The material world is just too complicated to have a random big bang explosion that made everything come into being. 

In short, I think the random explosion of some so-called universal big bang -- is a desperate and clueless way to describe the origins of life, and is not very scientific as well. Anyway, somehow or other I avoided falling into that pot hole, but I should be careful not to be too proud, pride seems to make these big spiritual people -- fall down on their behinds. And it might take millions of years for them to recover. Lord please save me from ever falling like that again!     

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HIS FORMS ARE ONE AND THE SAME TLC Ch.6

By devotional service one can understand that Kṛṣṇa first of all manifests Himself as svayam-rūpa, His personal form, then as tadekātma-rūpa, and then as āveśa-rūpa. It is in these three features that He manifests Himself in His transcendental form. The feature of svayam-rūpa is the form by which Kṛṣṇa can be understood by one who may not understand His other features. In other words, the form by which Kṛṣṇa is directly understood is called svayam-rūpa, or His personal form. 

The tadekātma-rūpa is that form which most resembles the svayam-rūpa, but there are some differences in the bodily features. The tadekātma-rūpa is divided into two manifestations-the personal expansion (svāṁśa) and the pastime expansion (vilāsa). As far as the āveśa-rūpa is concerned, when Kṛṣṇa empowers some suitable living entity to represent Him, that living entity is called āveśa-rūpa, or śaktyāveśa-avatāra.

The personal form of Kṛṣṇa can be divided into two: svayam-rūpa and svayam-prakāśa. As far as His svayam-rūpa (or pastime form) is concerned, it is in that form that He remains always in Vṛndāvana with the inhabitants of Vṛndāvana. This personal form (svayam-rūpa) can be further divided into the prābhava and vaibhava forms. For instance, Kṛṣṇa expanded Himself in multiple forms during the rāsa dance in order to dance with each and every gopī who took part in forms in order to accommodate His 16,108 wives. 

There are some instances of great mystics' also expanding their bodily features in different ways, but Kṛṣṇa did not expand Himself by any yoga process. Each expansion of Kṛṣṇa was a separate individual. In Vedic history, Saubhari Ṛṣi, a sage, expanded himself into eight forms by the yoga process, but Saubhari Ṛṣi remained one. As far as Kṛṣṇa is concerned, when He manifested Himself in different forms, each and every one of them was a separate individual. 

When Nārada Muni visited Kṛṣṇa at different palaces at Dvārakā, he was astonished at this, and yet Nārada is never astonished to see expansions of a yogī's body, since he knows the trick himself. Yet in Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam it is stated that Nārada was actually astonished to see the expansions of Kṛṣṇa. He wondered how the Lord was present with His queens in each and every one of His 16,108 palaces. With each queen, Kṛṣṇa Himself was in a different form, and He was acting in different ways. 

In one form He was engaged in playing with His children, and in yet another form He was performing some household work. These different activities are conducted by the Lord when He is in His "emotional" forms, which are known as vaibhava-prakāśa expansions. Similarly, there are other unlimited expansions of the forms of Kṛṣṇa, but even when they are divided or expanded without limit, they are still one and the same. There is no difference between one form and another. That is the absolute nature of the Supreme Personality of Godhead.

In Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam it is stated that when Akrūra was accompanying both Kṛṣṇa and Balarāma from Gokula to Mathurā, he entered into the waters of the Yamunā River and could see in the waters all the planets in the spiritual sky. He also saw there the Lord in His Viṣṇu form as well as Nārada and the four Kumāras, who were worshiping Him. As stated in the Bhāgavata Purāṇa (SB 10.40.7):

anye ca saṁskṛtātmāno
vidhinābhihitena te
yajanti tvan-mayās tvāṁ vai
bahumūrty-ekamūrtikam

There are many worshipers who are purified by different processes of worship-such as the Vaiṣṇavas or the Āryans-who also worship the Supreme Lord according to their convictions and spiritual understanding. Each process of worship involves understanding different forms of the Lord, as mentioned in scriptures, but the ultimate idea is to worship the Supreme Lord Himself.

In His vaibhava-prakāśa feature, the Lord manifests Himself as Balarāma. The Balarāma feature is as good as Kṛṣṇa Himself, the only difference being that the bodily hue of Kṛṣṇa is dark and that of Balarāma is fair. The vaibhava-prakāśa form was also displayed when Kṛṣṇa appeared before His Mother Devakī in the four-handed form of Nārāyaṇa, just when He entered the world. At the request of His parents, however, He transformed Himself into a two-handed form. 

Thus He sometimes manifests four hands and sometimes two. The two-handed form is actually vaibhava-prakāśa, and the four-handed form is prābhava-prakāśa. In His personal form, Kṛṣṇa is just like a cowherd boy, and He thinks of Himself in that way. But when He is in the Vāsudeva form, He thinks of Himself as the son of a kṣatriya and acts as a princely administrator.

In the two-handed form, as the cowherd son of Nanda Mahārāja, Kṛṣṇa fully exhibits His opulence, form, beauty, wealth, attractiveness and pastimes. Indeed, in some of the Vaiṣṇava literatures it is found that sometimes, in His form as Vāsudeva, He becomes attracted to the form of Govinda in Vṛndāvana. Thus as Vāsudeva He sometimes desires to enjoy as the cowherd boy Govinda does, although the Govinda form and the Vāsudeva form are one and the same. 

In this regard, there is a passage in the Fourth Chapter of the Lalita-mādhava (4.19), in which Kṛṣṇa addresses Uddhava as follows: "My dear friend, the form of Govinda, the cowherd boy, attracts Me. Indeed, I wish to be like the damsels of Vraja, who are also attracted by this form of Govinda." Similarly, in the Eighth Chapter, Kṛṣṇa says: "O how wonderful it is! Who is this person? 

After seeing Him, I am so attracted that I am now desiring to embrace Him just like Rādhikā."

There are also forms of Kṛṣṇa which are a little different, and these are called tadekātma-rūpa forms. These may be further divided into the vilāsa and svāṁśa forms, which in turn have many different features and can be divided into prābhava and vaibhava forms. As far as the vilāsa forms are concerned, there are innumerable prābhava-vilāsas by which Kṛṣṇa expands Himself as Vāsudeva, Saṅkarṣaṇa, Pradyumna, and Aniruddha. Sometimes the Lord thinks of Himself as a cowherd boy, and sometimes He thinks of Himself as the son of Vasudeva, a kṣatriya prince, and this "thinking" of Kṛṣṇa is called His "pastimes." 

Actually He is in the same form in His vaibhava-prakāśa and prābhava-vilāsa, but He appears differently as Balarāma and Kṛṣṇa. His expansions as Vāsudeva, Saṅkarṣaṇa, Pradyumna and Aniruddha are in the original catur-vyūha, or four-handed forms.

There are innumerable four-handed manifestations in different planets and different places, and they are manifested in Dvārakā and Mathurā eternally. From the four principal four-handed forms (Vāsudeva, Saṅkarṣaṇa, Pradyumna and Aniruddha) there are manifest the principal twenty-four forms called vaibhava-vilāsa, and they are named differently according to the placement of different symbols (conch, mace, lotus and disc) in their hands. 

The four principal manifestations of Kṛṣṇa are found in each planet in the spiritual sky, and these planets are called Nārāyaṇaloka or Vaikuṇṭhaloka. In the Vaikuṇṭhaloka He is manifested in the four-handed form of Nārāyaṇa. From each Nārāyaṇa the forms of Vāsudeva, Saṅkarṣaṇa, Pradyumna and Aniruddha are manifested. Thus Nārāyaṇa is the center, and the four forms of Vāsudeva, Saṅkarṣaṇa, Pradyumna and Aniruddha surround the Nārāyaṇa form. Each of these four forms again expand into three, and these all have different names, beginning with Keśava. These forms are twelve in all, and they are known by different names according to the placement of symbols in their hands.

As far as the Vāsudeva form is concerned, the three expansions manifested from Him are Keśava, Nārāyaṇa and Mādhava. The three forms of Saṅkarṣaṇa are known as Govinda, Viṣṇu and Śrī Madhusūdana. (It should be noted, however, that this Govinda form is not the same Govinda form that is manifested in Vṛndāvana as the son of Nanda Mahārāja.) Similarly, Pradyumna is also divided into three forms known as Trivikrama, Vāmana and Śrīdhara; and the three forms of Aniruddha are known as Hṛṣīkeśa, Padmanābha and Dāmodara.