PADA: Hokey smokes pilgrims! I never thought the day would ever come when PADA would have to defend Amogha Lila Das, who is generally well known for his Hindu hodge podge / new age / psycho-babbling / Radhanatha-esque "feel good" messages. In sum, even many senior devotees called him "controversial" -- because many times he does not mention Srila Prabhupada or Krishna.
"It is less of a difference of opinion and more of a bad tone that germinates conflict. Tone can signify a variety of things to various individuals, but it typically refers to someone's attitude or the quality or mood they are expressing through their words. A poor tone conveys a radically different message, which causes disputes and results in hurt feelings, disappointment, and discomfort." - Amogh Lila Das
But! This poor guy came out and stated the obvious, the Hare Krishna religion does not support meat eating, cow killing, or the bogus / fraud yogis, swamis, gurus and avatars who support eating meat. For example, Srila Prabhupada said the Rama Krishna mission advocated meat eating to make people strong. Srila Prabhupada does not approve of their diet, and that means -- neither does Krishna. But now ISKCON is "very pained" to hear what Srila Prabhupada and Krishna say!
Thus, after this poor chap's saying that the Rama Krishna mission / Vivekananda program does not have the proper Vedic diet, Amogha Lila is now BANNED from ISKCON. Which means ISKCON is now supporting MEAT EATING. Yep, ISKCON would thus like to say -- the teachings of Amogha Lila do not represent the teachings of ISKCON. Because ISKCON teaches that meat eating is fine and dandy?
So this is where we are currently at boys and girls. We said that the GBC's attempt to Hindu-ize ISKCON was going to make progressive compromises with the Hindu society's many bogus ideas. And none of us probably ever thought that would include ISKCON endorsing the likes of Rama Krishna mission, but -- viola, there you have it, they are supporting the Rama Krishna mission.
Did we forget to mention Srila Prabhupada says Rama Krishna mission dragged all of Bengal to hell, and that is why it has so many difficulties. Now Amogha Lila das has to perform atonement for one month because, he does not endorse meat eating and / or the swamis who endorse meat eating. Well this just shows how the GBC's program is losing more and more intelligence. They watered it down gradually and they have now come to full on compromise with the Hindu's worst case bogus programs.
Now some of the Narayan Maharaja people told me how wonderful they are at protecting cows. That is good, but they should first of all have protected the humans from falling into the GBC process, which is killing the souls of their victims. Srila Prabhupada says these Rama Krishna type people are dragging others to hell, and ISKCON is tossing people into their process. Could not make this up prabhus!
Over the years many devotees have complained that PADA is like chicken little, the sky is falling! Oh no -- bogus gurus! Oh no -- child molesting. Oh no -- crimes in the newspapers. Oh no -- gurus offering LSD to the shalagram, not a problem! Well maybe, but surrendering to the meat eating and totally sahajiya folks means, yes, the sky really is falling this time!
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PS: Just rescued a very gnarly looking black spider who was trying to make my hat his new home! Outside for you buster! Don't these ISKCON leaders realize what happens to sinful people in their future lives?
Patita Pavana Das:
Without focusing on Shrila Prabhupada ...
THERE IS NO ISKCON
The greatest sin of ISKCON's notorious Zonal Eleven is that they were not transparent via media to the previous acharya. Because they switched the focus onto themselves, they were punished to become shudras. That was the result of stealing the worship and adoration (and temple assets) that were intended for the Founder-Acharya.
Under the blindness of their regime, ISKCON became like gazing through a pair of binoculars with the lens caps on. One after another, these shudra quality men, while posing as Zonal Acharyas, proved time and again that their ability to focus down the great highway back to Godhead that Prabhupada had single-handedly built, was now blindsighted.
Under these Eleven Shudras, ISKCON became a game of Blind Man's Bluff with eleven sightless 4th class men posturing on Vyasa Asanas.
If the ISKCON that Prabhupada intended is going to continue into the coming generations--4th, 5th, 6th generations and beyond--then the focus on Shrila Prabhupada and his original teachings must be preserved. There can be no room for the concoctions of sightless shudras, who only cause confusion, and chaos--just as we are witnessing in much of Mayavada-laced ISKCON today.
Shastra chaksus means to see through the eyes of shastras--holy scriptures that are written down by Vaishnava brahmanas like Shrila Vyasadeva. Brahmanas sacrifice everything for the welfare of the world, while shudras are bent on their own sense gratification The alternative To following shudras ornamented with false symbols of spiritual elevation is to get back to ISKCON As It Is.
Until Shrila Prabhupada is once again given the rightful place he deserves in each and every ISKCON Temple, blinding clouds of chaos will continue to rain upon Lord Krishna's innocent aspiring devotees.
Get back to basics, get back to ISKCON As It Is.
IMAGE: US President George W. Bush peers through binoculars with the lens caps on. Certainly a false leader with no sense of vision to guide the people who elected him, his warring policies set America on a road of endless warfare with invented "enemies." Much the same happened to ISKCON after the departure of Shrila Prabhupada.
JD: Always happens here the same. Anyone who quotes the founder is banned. "Gurus are not engaged in illicit sex." Oh, stepped over the line. Now I am banned.
My friend saw the woman who was abusing the gurukula boys at the temple ... and before he could say anything, the temple commander came over and told him he has to leave ... and he is not welcome anymore. The lady who caused physical damage to the boy ... and sent him to the hospital ... gets to stay.
You are banned ... the bad people stay ... and that is the same here also. In other words ... do not dare quote the master ... do not dare challenge the child abusers ... or you are banished. Eventually ... only the rotten apples are allowed and all the good ones are banned ... that seems to be the whole idea.
Chicken little said the sky is falling ... no one listened ... but maybe they should have this time.
M Dasi: Not surprised. Heard this a million times "we follow the tradition." Same people who made pedo gurus "the tradition of India" ... now making Rama Krishna Mission "the tradition of India."
You are right ... we know these India ICC people are simply businessmen ... posing as saints. Explains why they will promote the most sinful behavior as "Krishna's tradition." Because ??? ... they just want the Hindu dollars to come into their pockets.
These people are sickos. We thought it might finally end with the pedo samadhis ... but they had to out do themselves ... and take the guru parampara a bar lower ... when ... silly me ... I thought there is nothing lower than their pedo acharyas.
They are following "the tradition" ... the tradition of making sinful dog manure people into Krishna's successors ... which is why they have to go to the most abominable regions ... because they are abominable people.
Can anyone imagine what happens when people try to say Go-vinda ... the protector of cows ... is part of the Rama Krishna mission? Lord have mercy on them ... because I won't give them an ounce. And we have to perform attonement when we disagree with these fools! WTF! Only silver lining is ... now Amogha realizes what a bunch of rats and clowns he is dealing with.
Nitai: Once I met a little old lady on the streets of Denver when I was distributing books.
Prabhupada: Old lady.
Nitai: Very old. She was walking down the street. She was all bent over. And she asked me what I was doing, and I showed her our magazine and explained that we were teaching Krsna consciousness, and she said, "Oh, is this yoga?
I remember way back when Vivekananda came here. Have you ever heard of him?" So we began talking about Vivekananda. She said that she was there when he made his tour. She was in Denver when he made his tour of the United States, and that he stopped there for one meeting and lectured. And she went there to see that meeting, but she said that all in all she was disgusted with him because he was so much attracted to the women. She said that he was victimized by the women. They were all trying to get him, and she said so when he went back to India he was a broken man.
Prabhupada: Yes, he took with him three women. One of them was Sister Nivedita.
Srila Prabhupada/ Room Conversation with Professor Olivier Lacombe -- June 14, 1974, Paris
MMD: Looking at the comments, many Hindus think Srila Prabhupada is wrong and Rama Krishna mission is right. In fact !!! many think Srila Prabhupada is an offender to the great saints of India.
Many Hindus already eat meat and fish. Is this why the GBC has placed all their efforts into India? They know they can fool these people ... whose whole country is full of people who are easy to fool? Many of these Hindus are not friends with Srila Prabhupada.
Rama Krishna mission also says the Gaudiya Vasihnavas are the dead skeletons of Buddhism. Wonderful place for us to take shelter of. GBC has not gone to this recently, they knew all along their Hindu program is compromised. Compromised with Rama Krishna mission is the last leg of religion being chopped off ... they are not standing on any truths now. Whole GBC thing is a lie. Misleading the population to take them to hell ... what we thought all along.
VP: These Vivekananda fans are b*tt hurt as they cannot tolerate the truth that that Vivekananda ate meat. He also took a kid to a restaurant to feed him beef. And he did so many other things which a true Vedantist is not supposed to do.
On one hand talks about mercy ... and on other hand he eats animals. And he says there is no sin in eating animals. And then there are quotes of him saying few pieces of meat will not stop the mercy of God.
He is another example of a bogus God man from India. We need to eat meat to become like the strong Western man, that is what he was saying. We should follow the West. And India is following the West thanks to these bogus preachers.
I am surprised that ISKCON is now saying he is a great saint, but that means ISKCON has become fallen and adulterated with the beef eating sadhus who are polluting India, and the whole world. ISKCON has no standing in Vedic culture and should not be supported anywhere. They have abandoned true Vedic standards.
JJ: Forgot to mention Rama Krishna swamis smoking cigarettes. That is what ISKCON calls the "saintly tradition." Amogha is right and ISKCON is wrong. Good. Amogha should leave the GBC and their bogus tradition of sex deviants gurus and become independent.
It is what all of us had to do, and he should follow us and not them. He needs support now and I for one am supporting his statements. Shame on ISKCON for being another bogus branch of Hindus!
JD: Always happens here the same. Anyone who quotes the founder is banned. "Gurus are not engaged in illicit sex." Oh, stepped over the line. Now I am banned.
ReplyDeleteMy friend saw the woman who was abusing the gurukula boys at the temple ... and before he could say anything, the temple commander came over and told him he has to leave ... and he is not welcome anymore. The lady who caused physical damage to the boy ... and sent him to the hospital ... gets to stay.
You are banned ... the bad people stay ... and that is the same here also. In other words ... do not dare quote the master ... do not dare challenge the child abusers ... or you are banished. Eventually ... only the rotten apples are allowed and all the good ones are banned ... that seems to be the whole idea.
Chicken little said the sky is falling ... no one listened ... but maybe they should have this time.
M Dasi: Not surprised. Heard this a million times "we follow the tradition." Same people who made pedo gurus "the tradition of India" ... now making Rama Krishna Mission "the tradition of India."
ReplyDeleteYou are right ... we know these India ICC people are simply businessmen ... posing as saints. Explains why they will promote the most sinful behavior as "Krishna's tradition." Because ??? ... they just want the Hindu dollars to come into their pockets.
These people are sickos. We thought it might finally end with the pedo samadhis ... but they had to out do themselves ... and take the guru parampara a bar lower ... when ... silly me ... I thought there is nothing lower than their pedo acharyas.
They are following "the tradition" ... the tradition of making sinful dog manure people into Krishna's successors ... which is why they have to go to the most abominable regions ... because they are abominable people.
Can anyone imagine what happens when people try to say Go-vinda ... the protector of cows ... is part of the Rama Krishna mission? Lord have mercy on them ... because I won't give them an ounce. And we have to perform attonement when we disagree with these fools! WTF! Only silver lining is ... now Amogha realizes what a bunch of rats and clowns he is dealing with.
Nitai: Once I met a little old lady on the streets of Denver when I was
ReplyDeletedistributing books.
Prabhupada: Old lady.
Nitai: Very old. She was walking down the street. She was all bent over. And she asked me what I was doing, and I showed her our magazine and explained that we were teaching Krsna consciousness, and she said, "Oh, is this yoga?
I remember way back when Vivekananda came here. Have you ever heard of him?" So we began talking about Vivekananda. She said that she was there when he made his tour. She was in Denver when he made his tour of the United States, and that he stopped there for one meeting and lectured. And she went there to see that meeting, but she said that all in all she was disgusted with him because he was so much attracted to the women. She said that he was
victimized by the women. They were all trying to get him, and she said so when he went back to India he was a broken man.
Prabhupada: Yes, he took with him three women. One of them was Sister Nivedita.
Srila Prabhupada/ Room Conversation with Professor Olivier Lacombe -- June 14, 1974, Paris
MMD: Looking at the comments, many Hindus think Srila Prabhupada is wrong and Rama Krishna mission is right. In fact !!! many think Srila Prabhupada is an offender to the great saints of India.
ReplyDeleteMany Hindus already eat meat and fish. Is this why the GBC has placed all their efforts into India? They know they can fool these people ... whose whole country is full of people who are easy to fool? Many of these Hindus are not friends with Srila Prabhupada.
Rama Krishna mission also says the Gaudiya Vasihnavas are the dead skeletons of Buddhism. Wonderful place for us to take shelter of. GBC has not gone to this recently, they knew all along their Hindu program is compromised. Compromised with Rama Krishna mission is the last leg of religion being chopped off ... they are not standing on any truths now. Whole GBC thing is a lie. Misleading the population to take them to hell ... what we thought all along.
VP: These Vivekananda fans are b*tt hurt as they cannot tolerate the truth that that Vivekananda ate meat. He also took a kid to a restaurant to feed him beef. And he did so many other things which a true Vedantist is not supposed to do.
ReplyDeleteOn one hand talks about mercy ... and on other hand he eats animals. And he says there is no sin in eating animals. And then there are quotes of him saying few pieces of meat will not stop the mercy of God.
He is another example of a bogus God man from India. We need to eat meat to become like the strong Western man, that is what he was saying. We should follow the West. And India is following the West thanks to these bogus preachers.
I am surprised that ISKCON is now saying he is a great saint, but that means ISKCON has become fallen and adulterated with the beef eating sadhus who are polluting India, and the whole world. ISKCON has no standing in Vedic culture and should not be supported anywhere. They have abandoned true Vedic standards.
JJ: Forgot to mention Rama Krishna swamis smoking cigarettes. That is what ISKCON calls the "saintly tradition." Amogha is right and ISKCON is wrong. Good. Amogha should leave the GBC and their bogus tradition of sex deviants gurus and become independent.
ReplyDeleteIt is what all of us had to do, and he should follow us and not them. He needs support now and I for one am supporting his statements. Shame on ISKCON for being another bogus branch of Hindus!