PADA: Criminal negligence case lodged against ISKCON. The government allocated a route for the cart, and the cart was taken off the approved route. There are some photos and video of people burning on the street etc., pretty gruesome result. Someone's head has to roll here, most likely ISKCON will toss the government courts one of the underlings to save the top guys, as they do all the time. ys pd
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The Hitler-anugas Leader
PADA: Oh oh. Mukunda UK is on the warpath against PADA, again! This time we are at fault for supporting Henry Doktorski's expose of all the players from New Vrndavana -- some of whom were part of the Sulochana murder scheme, and numerous other crimes. As a result of Henry's research, it was uncovered that folks like Radhanath had a role in many of the criminal schemes going on there.
And Henry got a number of direct testimonies from eye witnesses to confirm many of these issues, in addition to -- he is an eye witness himself. OK Mukunda was never going to put any of this together, nor was anyone else. And that is one reason why we work even with "karmi police, courts and media," at least some percent of the story gets out there.
And then -- thanks to Henry -- we got the testimony of the switch board guy, various temple enforcers, and various others, who say there was indeed a criminal plot to get Sulochana -- and so on and so forth. Again! All of this info surfaced thanks in large part to the investigation work of Henry Doktorski. And this info never would have surfaced otherwise, at least not in this much detail. Did I forget to mention that investigating these people carries no small amount of danger?
Did Henry get all of his facts totally 100% right? Well nope, for example Kailasa Chandra was not helping Sulochana write the Sulochana papers, I was. Kailasa was hiding in the hills at the farm and he was too paranoid to go anywhere, much less be seen with Sulochana or venture down to Berkeley. But overall, most of what Henry writes is accurate, and verifies many other testimonies.
Again in any case, Mukunda UK would never write any such an extensive expose of New Vrndavana, which really sheds a lot of light on the whole GBC operation at the time, and gives key testimony exposing key players involved at the time. Lets not forget that in the 1980s New Vrndavan was being advertised as "the biggest ISKCON Hare Krishna community." So the history there involves the history of the whole movement in that era. Anyway, the upshot is that a lot of people NOW feel that Radhanath and his crew are not saints, and they are implicated in numerous deviations and orchestrating the overall mess there, thanks to Henry exposing them.
Anyway! Assuming our info is too defective to use, where does Mukunda UK go for his history lessons? Oh oh, I forgot, Mukunda consults with Bhakta das / William Benedict, who went off to the Gaudiya Matha and told me I was an offender for not supporting the Gaudiya Matha's folks. And Bhakta das / BV Puri were supporting, wait for it, "Saint Radhanath."
And they had a big sign in front of their ashram welcoming "Saint Radhanath." We need to go to the party that is responsible for the crimes taking place, to get the right side of the crime story? Oh oh, you mean we have to rely on the party that was totally against Sulochana, to find out the real story of Sulochana?
Did I forget to mention that Bhakta das was arrested for selling millions of dollars of designer drugs, and later for some type of "sex crimes" when he landed in Puri India. This is the best place to go for correct info? Then Bhakta das really went ballistic when we offended his Saint Radhanath. And Bhakta das and his pal Swarupa Hebel have been going around all over ISKCON complaining that we were offending their Saint Radhanath program etc. OK so Mukunda is promoting the Saint Radhanath people, while claiming he is in favor of the victims that this program oppresses.
But it gets worse. Then Mukunda UK has been citing passages from the writings of Bhavananda's bucket boy, Hari Sauri. And Hari Sauri was saying me and Sulochana are sahajiyas. And Sulochana said -- Hari Sauri ilk writing is painting a bulls eye on us by calling us sahajiyas. And Hari Sauri has supported the Mayapur regime, where child molesting has been rampant and indeed "industrial level."
OK so we need to go to the industrial level child abuse program's cheer leaders to get the right side of history. But we cannot rely on Henry, or PADA, because we do not consult with the industrial level child abuse program's cheer leaders for advice. In fact we are done with those guys.
And these dubious sources are where Mukunda goes when he wants to know the actual history, not us. And then Mukunda gets his pals like Sanat / Prahlad / HKC Jaipur folks etc. to send me links to their site -- to have me listen to the glorification of the cheer leaders of Saint Radhanath and / or glorification of the molester society's cheer leaders from the Mayapur project. This is Mukunda's idea of a good source of info?
OK guess what? None of the actual Prabhupadanugas want to hear from the cheer leaders of Saint Radhanath, or the cheer leaders of the Mayapur molester messiah's program. In short, Mukunda is simultaneously for Sulochana, and in favor of the people who are against Sulochana, like the Radhanath program and the Hari Sauri program. Before Mukunda does anything, he needs to pick a side to defend.
Any side will do! We cannot be for Sulochana -- and be for the people who are trying to have him taken out -- all at the same time. I am in favor of the police, and the MAFIA. All at once! That is not how life works!
Also known as schizophrenic madness. Pick a side, and then we can move on from there. Prahlad was sending me his Saint Radhanath program's videos, and his favorite molester program's cheer leaders writings, and asking me "whose side is PADA on"? Well we are not licking the jack boots of the anal reconstructive surgery epidemic messiahs fan club members like Mukunda and Prahlad do?
I dunno how to reply to that exactly, but you guys are on the side of the pedophile messiahs club, that is for sure. So when it comes to who is more offending and who is not, I think the people who want to expose Radhanath [like Henry] are superior to the people who still want to lick the jackboots of the Saint Radhanath program, or molester Mayapur folks, like Mukunda and his pals like Prahlad das.
Someone said these guys were formerly in the ISKCON system and they just cannot get fully out of their program, and that seems to be the case. In other words, a person cannot be for the Pandavas and the Kauravas all at the same time. And that is why Maharaja Yuddhisthira made a big announcement one day, if you are with them -- then go live with them, and get out of our camp, but you cannot be in both camps. To be promoting two diametrically opposing veiws at the same time happens in Hare Krishna land a lot unfortunately, because a lot of devotees are not stable mentally. At least Henry has taken one side, he is against the regime, and his writings about them show that is self evident. ys pd
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DISAPPEARANCE OF SRILA GOPAL BHATTA GOSVAMI
Lord Chaitanya ordered Gopala Bhatta to write a book to check the spread of pseudo-loving rasas and negligence to vaidhi bhakti. In corroboration with Sri Sanatana Goswami he compiled the Hari-bhakti-vilasa, the authorized book explaining the rituals and devotional practices of the Gaudiya Vaishnava sampradaya. He also wrote Sat-kriya-dipika and the outline for Sri Jiva Goswami’s Sat Sandarbhas.
He eternally serves Srimati Radharani as one of Her asta manjaris, Guna-manjari. His samadhi is within Radha Ramanaji’s Temple compound behind the appearance place of the Deity. Sri Gopala Bhatta Goswami initiated Gopinatha (Pujari Goswami), a lifelong brahmachari who served Radha Ramanaji for his whole life. Gopala Bhatta Goswami initiated Srinivasa Acharya and many other stalwart Vaishnavas.
Srila Gopala Bhatta Goswami (the son of a Venkata Bhatta, a Sri Vaishnava brahmana) appeared in Sri Rangam, South India. Lord Chaitanya once stayed four months in his home, and converted the family to Gaudiya Vaishnavism. A mere boy at this time, Gopala personally served the Lord.
Sri Chaitanya treated him affectionately giving His remnants and blessings to’ become an acharya. During His four month stay, Lord Chaitanya developed a close friendship with Vyenkata Bhatta, which Krishna Dasa Kaviraja describes as “sakhya rasa.” Freely conversing with each other, they would often laugh and joke together. One day in a humorous mood Lord Chaitanya asked Vyenkata:
“Why does your worshipable goddess of fortune, Sri Lakshmidevi, abandon the happiness of Vaikuntha and her service to Her Lord Narayana? Why does she go to Vrindavana and perform severe austerities to attain the association of My Lord Gopala, the cowherd boy of Vraja?”
“Why does your worshipable goddess of fortune, Sri Lakshmidevi, abandon the happiness of Vaikuntha and her service to Her Lord Narayana? Why does she go to Vrindavana and perform severe austerities to attain the association of My Lord Gopala, the cowherd boy of Vraja?”
“I can’t understand these mysteries,” said Vyenkata, “but You, being the Supreme Personality of Godhead Himself, can surely enlighten me.”
JD: Why are so many Hare Krishnas gonzo nut cases? This is one main reason why ... they want to be with the GBC supporters and the Prabhupada people ... at the same time. And that is making them have split personalities. And that means ... they cannot get anything done.
ReplyDeleteWhining about Hitler all the time is not popular with devotees or non devotees ... it is beating a dead horse. Srila Prabhupada would be furious that Mukunda is hi-jacking Krishna to make a Hitler worship program. That is not ever going to please Krishna ... or His bhaktas.
Kailasa chandra is another one of them. Nothing ever gets done. I think we needed to know about a lot of the conversations going on in the 1980s ... to see how all this violent cult came down. I'd rather know than not know.
Mukunda is with the "immigrants are driving out the white people" group. Another racist in dog consciousness. And what good things are the white people doing anyway? Without an immigrant like Srila Prabhupada he would never have heard of Krishna. What a jackass.
SD Dasi: Same thing as the GBC. Using Prabhupada, and Krishna, and the Vedas ... to promote themselves ... and their bogus gurus, or Hitler, or Mukunda's real idea ... rounding up the brown immigrants to remove them from the UK. Mundane people with mundane real purpose. Bodily platform.
ReplyDeleteAlways something that Srila Prabhupada detests. They are using Krishna for their self promotion. If GBC people will help Mukunda promote himself, he will use them. They are birds of a feathers, users and abusers. They use each other when it is convenient. And attack each other when it is not.
But they cannot build useful things. Harping about Hitler ... does nothing to make the world a better place. It contaminates the world. Contamination. He is using Krishna just like the rest of them, to promote himself. Fortunately ... he comes across as a nut job and that is why he cannot gain much following ... which saves us from having to defend Hitler.
PADA: OK prabhu but, Mukunda made a video with Bhakta das, promoting Radhanatha's cheer leader Bhakta Dasa and put that video on his site. And he also was citing Bhavananda's bucket boy Hari Sauri on his site, saying Sulochana is a bogus sahajiya. Why is he complaining about anyone else when he supports the Radhanatha and Bhavananda cheer leaders?
ReplyDeleteMukunda also said he did not want me to help liberate hundreds of kids from the GBC / Bhakti Vidya Purna program. He said these children need to stay in the GBC's schools, but at the time there was rampant molesting, and he said "that is not my problem." Sorry, allowing children to be abused is your problem, you are implicated. ys pd