We tried to work with them some time ago, but they said that worship of pure devotees like Srila Prabhupada is the bogus ritviks idea, and we need to instead worship people like Bhakti Vikas swami and offer our food to BVKS and his sampradaya. OK wait a minute, the BVKS sampradaya are the same people changing the books?
But it is much worse than that.
BVKS is working hand in glove with the people who are promoting a pedophile guru system, and BVKS has promoted his homosexual and pedophile pals guru parampara as bona fide -- and as acharyas -- all along. And right now BVKS is working with Basu Ghosh -- to cement in and keep their pedophile guru Lokanath in the acharya's post in India.
So evidently Ajit Krishnadasa and Torben are very upset with PADA because we do not help them (and BVKS) promote the idea that little children need to worship pedophiles as their messiahs. Or what? Sulochana said, "isn't it a crime to make little children worship pedophiles as their messiahs? It certainly will be that way in the court of Yamaraja." Why do they want me to help their pedophile pooja program crammed into little kids?
In other words, Ajit Krishnadasa and Torben Nielsen want me to surrender to their homosexual pedophile / and or pedophiles in samadhi / drunks / drug addicts et al. guru program, which is the same program that is changing the books. How can I promote their changed books program, when they want people to worship the same exact program that is changing the books? And is a pedophile guru process to boot.
As Sulochana said, if adults want to worship their anal sex epidemic guru sampradaya, that is maybe legal or not legal, but why is it legal to force little children to worship their anal sex epidemic guru parampara? So that is the question that Ajit Krishnadasa and Torben Nielsen never answer, why are they promoting the biggest cheer leaders of their anal sex epidemic guru program, that worships child molesters, sexual predators, drunks, drug addicts, porno swamis etc. as God's successors? And changes the books? If they want me to help them promote a child molesting guru program that changes the books, they have not yet read the books!
Ajit Krishnadasa
DUTY OF A DISCIPLE
"It is the duty of a disciple to reject a spiritual master who is inexperienced in ascertaining what is good and what is bad, who is misguided, or who is very proud. The spiritual master who imparts ignorance in the name of knowledge is the greatest enemy of his disciple. Therefore, a true disciple should respectfully reject him and take shelter of another spiritual master who can impart genuine transcendental knowledge." (Sri Narada Pancaratra)
Torben Nielsen
Janni is my wife since many many years.
Ajit Krishnadasa
DUTY OF A DISCIPLE
"It is the duty of a disciple to reject a spiritual master who is inexperienced in ascertaining what is good and what is bad, who is misguided, or who is very proud. The spiritual master who imparts ignorance in the name of knowledge is the greatest enemy of his disciple. Therefore, a true disciple should respectfully reject him and take shelter of another spiritual master who can impart genuine transcendental knowledge." (Sri Narada Pancaratra)
Torben Nielsen
Janni is my wife since many many years.
[PADA: OK so you guys want me to help your pedophile's BVKS guru program -- a program that got all kinds of children to worship their anal sex epidemic guru program. Why should I help anyone promote a pedophile's guru process?
And Ajit and Torben said worship of pure devotees is the bogus ritviks idea, and they said we need to worship the leaders of their anal sex epidemic guru process like BVKS. And then they said, we should oppose changed books -- while worshiping the SAME EXACT people in the program that is changing the books? Told ya! Worse, Torben told me my idea of worship of pure devotees is THE BOGUS CHRISTIAN idea, wow, so he wants children to worship his BVKS pedophile's guru programs, because that is bona fide?
In any case, no, we cannot help them promote their anal sex epidemic guru process, nor do we want to help them force little children to worship same. Nor do we want people to worship the members of their changed books society. They want to promote their pedophile guru process -- which is changing the books, and claim to oppose it at the same time?
No, they are MORE on the side of the books changers and pedophile gurus -- more than being with us. And worse, they said worship of pure devotees in "not in the tradition" while they are in their anal sex epidemic of children guru sampradaya process tradition. Where is their tradition found in shastra?
In any case, even the old cat lady down the street who has about 20 cats already knows, worship of pedophiles is not "the tradition" of any religion anywhere, anytime, in any place, it is a concoction of the GBC and their boot lickers like Ajit and Torben. In other words, the old cat lady understands Prabhupada's teachings better than these people ever will evidently.
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SD Dasi: It really is amazing that anyone ... would have to tell anyone else ... that pedophile guru's worship is wrong. And making children worship pedophiles as their gurus is even more wrong. Way wrong!
ReplyDeleteWhy would anyone even have to be told their idea of worship of pedophiles is wrong ... at all. They don't already know that pedophile worship is wrong ... someone has to tell them? These people are reading the books ... supposedly ... and their conclusion is ... pedophile guru worship is the Vedic program?
They are mocking the books. Who wants to read the books ... if the conclusion is ... they need to worship BVKS and his pedophile guru sampradaya? The fact that anyone even has to tell these people that pedophile worship is wrong ... means they have less idea of religion than the average street person.
I see now! Why Vedas say worshipers of false gurus go to much worse hells than the average street person ... because these false guru people are extreme offenders ... a million times more offensive than the average street person ... who would never tell their children to worship pedophiles gurus.
The average street person may or may not believe in God ... but he fears God enough ... not ... to say pedophiles are God's successors and gurus. He has more spiritual idea than these people ever will. I believe they will go to the darkest hells ... just as scripture says.
PADA: Right JD. Bhakti vikas swami is the person Ajit and Torben recommend to me we all worship as the world's guru / messiah -- (and for our children?) But yep, well known to everyone, BVKS has been among the biggest cheer leaders of the pedophile guru program in India, because he is the sannyasa disciple of Jayapataka, where much of the molesting was going on in Mayapur. And BVKS is best pals with Basu Ghosh, who is promoting Lokanath as their current pedophile acharya. So BVKS is almost always working as the hand maiden of their pedophile guru program for most of his entire life.
ReplyDeleteAnd BVKS encouraged the Bangalore lawsuit where the GBC spent $20,000,0000 trying to remove the Prabhupada worshipers from ISKCON. We need to sue anyone who worships pure devotees and not pedophile guru programs? And waste $20m?
But notice, then there is no money left over to give to the molesting victims, start varnasrama, print books and etc. So we cannot worship Jesus, we cannot worship Prabhupada, but we can worship the leaders of their pedophile guru sex club -- that we had sued for $400,000,000 because their molesting victims were committing suicide.
So yes, I would have to agree, these people are not reading the books of Srila Prabhupada, or else they would automatically know that we cannot tell little children to worship their anal sex epidemic guru process. Sulochana is right, if adults want to engage in anal sex pooja, that is perhaps their right. Of course they will for sure go to hell for doing that, but for them to force little children to do that, and basically force their own society's kids to go to hell -- as the BVKS program does every day -- is a horrendous crime against God and His children.
And that is perhaps why so many people keep asking me, how many of these people are themselves homosexuals, or pedophiles, or sexual predators, or drunks etc. because otherwise why would they be attracted to promoting such an odious sexual pervert's guru process? Even recently someone was asking me, aren't most of these leaders homosexuals and pedophile themselves? Of course the next question is, why are Ajit and Torben promoting this process, knowing full well it is a pedophile pooja program?
Torben also says that I am crazy and a liar, which is exactly what BVKS folks say, because they cannot explain why they are bowing down to a pedophile guru process and making children worship pedophiles as God's alleged successors. As M Dasi said, they will have to answer eventually why they are promoting their illicit sex guru process, in Yama's court. angel108b@yahoo.com
CW: Everything flows through their disciplic chain. If the top link of their chain promotes pedophiles as gurus ... then everyone down the chain will also promote pedophiles as their gurus. Since Bhakti Vikas Swami is the head link of their pedo-guru lover's chain ... and he a huge promoter of their contaminated "Krishna's guru" chain ... then everything he touches will have the same contaminated quality.
ReplyDeleteThat is why Srila Prabhupada says ... milk touched by a serpent causes poisonous effect. When the head link is promoting the worship of pedophiles ... then he will contaminate everyone down the chain ... such as Ajit and Torben. Since BVKS cannot answer the question ... are pedophiles gurus? Are the people who promote pedophile gurus ... also gurus? Then none of his followers can answer either. In other words ... the followers cannot say if pedophiles are Krishna's successors or not ... because their leaders also cannot say. They are stumped.
Right ... even the old cat lady is not stumped ... she knows pedophiles are not God's successors ... because she has not been touched by the lips of these poison serpent people.
[PADA: Yep, Sulochana said that as soon as we ask a GBC leader if homosexuals and pedophiles are, were or could have been acharyas, they sit there and drool on themselves being totally stumped by the question. They are baffled by the most common sense moral questions because they know -- as soon as they answer correctly, they will no longer be welcome in the pedophile guru parampara anymore. Then they won't be able to squeeze all their hi-jacked cash out of ISKCON anymore.]
LW: Right! This is the first problem, milk touched by the lips of serpents causes poison effect. When Bhakti Vikas swami supports a program that worships samadhis ... of people who are having sex with boys in their motorhome ...they thought that is the correct idea. That means not only BVKS is a fool ... but his followers are just as foolish.
ReplyDeleteThe cheaters and the cheated. Ajit Krishnadasa and Torben Nielsen want us to follow BVKS, and have our children worship pedophiles in samadhi, and not worship "bogus rirtvik" Srila Prabhupada, because they have drank the GBC poison. No surprise media people ask you if many of these people are homosexual pedophiles themselves. That seems to be the desired perception they want to make.
Bhakta Jojo: Cannot understand ... why these people are attracted to Bhakti Vikas swami in the first place. We all know Bhakti Vikas swami is big part of GBC's whole molesting guru system all along. Has Bhakti Vikas swami ever made any public statement ... molesters are not ... ever ... Krishna's successive acharyas?
ReplyDeleteI have never seen him ever make such a statement. Ever. Where is it? He blabbers and blabbers ... endlessly ... but never tells people what is an actual guru and what is not. That means either he does not know ... or he is cheating. Can't he just make a simple statement ... we should not have promoted fallen souls as gurus.
We made a mistake. Our mistake made thousands of children be victims. And we are sorry. Nothing like that. What are we to think? Sorry ... not sorry. When will he make a public statement that he is sorry for helping make a molesting guru system that violated thousands of children ... and he is sorry for his actions. I would have to submit ... he is not sorry for his actions. Maybe worse ... he is proud of his actions. And Ajit Krishnadasa and Torben are simply GBC puppets. What really happened? All of them are sorry ... for being caught?