We discuss the horoscope of His Divine Grace AC Bhaktivedanta Prabhupada
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PADA: Yes, Srila Prabhupada's chart said he would live for a longer time, if he could survive the next period of dangers from "juniors and subordinates." Later, when Srila Prabhupada complained of being given poison, he refers to that chart -- he says "jyoti jnana." (My chart was accurate and knew this was coming). ys pd
TD: So sad. He did say the movement full of demons.
PADA: Yes, that is why the GBC folks were really not happy with me for bringing his chart analysis out like I did, they have no good explanation for why his chart said that, and why he refers to that chart. Of course that means the chart was a warning to everyone there who knew about it -- to watch out, but they didn't. So there were the bad people, and lots of others who just went silently along to get along. ys pd
PADA: Yes, Srila Prabhupada's chart said he would live for a longer time, if he could survive the next period of dangers from "juniors and subordinates." Later, when Srila Prabhupada complained of being given poison, he refers to that chart -- he says "jyoti jnana." (My chart was accurate and knew this was coming). ys pd
TD: So sad. He did say the movement full of demons.
PADA: Yes, that is why the GBC folks were really not happy with me for bringing his chart analysis out like I did, they have no good explanation for why his chart said that, and why he refers to that chart. Of course that means the chart was a warning to everyone there who knew about it -- to watch out, but they didn't. So there were the bad people, and lots of others who just went silently along to get along. ys pd
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RE: Mayesvara Dasa
[PADA: We never said Jack Mitchell is the pivotal evidence? You are misquoting what I said. Strawman.
Srila Prabhupada's statements are the most direct evidence. Three different audio labs did a separate analysis, and all agreed on the content. And Gainesville FBI folks said this would be prosecuted as a murder if this had occurred in the USA.
Apart from that, we can hear the whispers ourselves, we don't need a lab to tell us this is a discussion about poison. The people who first heard the whispers -- knew it was about poison, before any labs were involved. They hired the labs to get confirmation.
Meanwhile, your lab guy was a bad rock and roll recording studio. I never even knew about the whispers when this all started. I heard the poison complaint -- and played it to various Bengalis and a Brijabasi -- who is a good friend of Srila Prabhupada's, and they ALL told me "this person is being poisoned."
That was before we had any information on the whispers. I am allowing people to decide, and right away you are making a false claim that I said Jack Mitchell is the main evidence. He isn't. He enhanced the whispers, but so did other labs, but we already knew basically what the whispers were saying -- before any labs were involved.
You keep splitting hairs when its not required. We know what the whispers are, we can hear them ourselves and they were heard by folks who had a good sound system and they discovered the whispers, before any labs were contacted. You are re-writing the history, and mis-quoting us. In sum, you are not being honest. ys pd]
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RE: Bhakti Vikas Swami
PADA: I was complaining that we cannot worship Jayatirtha as the acharya, because he is having sex with followers and he is offering LSD and marijuana to the shalagram deity. And Bhakti Vikas swami took the side of the GBC -- and defended keeping Jayatirtha as the acharya and having his photo on the altar at Krishna's feet.
So as soon as Bhakti Vikas swami finds some drug addict man who is having sex with followers, he thinks he has found the sum total of the demigods acharya, who should be worshiped as good as God. In other words, he wanted our children to worship debauchees as acharyas.
I said my children are not going to worship BVKS debauchees, so the Bhakti Vikas program kicked me out. Later on, Jayatirtha had his head chopped off for having sex with followers, so BVKS is responsible for that death also, he should have helped me remove Jayatirtha before it go to that stage.
Folks also had to sue the BVKS program for $400,000,000 for mass child abuse, so that is how he helped bankrupt ISKCON. BVKS wants us to worship his sex addicts and drug addicts gurus and he thinks that is varnasrama. First, he has no idea what is Krishna and what is His acharya, he cannot establish anything, except debauchee worship.
Sulochana said: Even dogs do not molest children, so GBC gurus like BVKS are not advanced enough to worship a dog, they promote people who molest children as acharyas. ys pd
CM: This sounds absolutely, completely strange to hear. Nevertheless, All glories to Srila Prabhupada the savior of all surrendered souls, Hare Krishna!
PADA: Bhakti Vikas swami cannot establish varnasrama by his program's saying that acharyas are often illicit sex deviants. That is not even sudra dharma, even sudras worship pure devotees. ys pd
KD: It doesn't look good vaishnava fighting on public forum. It pains to see someone criticized when sick and lived a life free from 4 vices. Specifically a person who is in renounce order. My request is you can personally call and settle issues.
PADA: First of all bona fide "Vaishnavas" do not promote illicit sex and drugs deviants as their society's acharyas like Bhakti Vikas swami has been doing since 1978. If we read the Vedas, we find that the people who promote illicit sex as acharyas -- like BVKS does -- are called fools, rascals and even demons.
If there are any examples from the Vedas of any bona fide Vaishnavas preaching to little children that they have to worship illicit sex and drugs as their acharyas, can we name who that bona fide Vaishnava is? Are there even any examples of bona fide sudras in Vedic society -- that worship illicit sex and drugs as Krishna's successor acharyas?
Even the mlecchas worship great devotees as their acharyas.
BVKS is outside the whole purview of the Vedas, there are no examples of ANY bona fide Vaishnavas, what to speak of Vaishnava acharyas, who promote illicit sex and drugs as acharyas. The acharyas are Krishna's successors, and to say debauchees are Krishna's successors is basically saying Krishna is a debauchee, because His successors are debauchees. This is called Krishna-aparadha, its insulting Krishna. So BVKS has dedicated his life to insulting Krishna, that is not bona fide. ys pd
BD: Well said prabhu ji!
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