KT: pada1008 if you love srila prabhupada then how can you think he was murdered he was a pure soul my only request watch this poison conspiracy debunked https://youtu.be/vA-CzGs8XfA
PADA: So Jesus is not a pure devotee? Why are you guys always coming up with the idea that Jesus is not a pure devotee, so he is being attacked? And Maharaja Pariksit is not a pure devotee? And Pradyumna was killed because he is not a pure devotee, and Bhishma is not a pure devotee ... and so on and so forth? You guys really need to start to read the Vedas, pure devotees can be attacked, and have been -- throughout history. ys pd
KT: Who told you that Jesus wasn’t a great devotee? Prabhupada was never poisoned as prabhupada himself stated.
KT: pada1008 the whisper is debunked by the audio engineers can they stated it is the swelling is going down not poison is going down.
PADA: No, three separate audio labs all agreed they are discussing poison ... they confirmed.
KT: I am suggesting you to watch this video with full scientific explanation what the actual matter https://youtu.be/vA-CzGs8XfA . You can’t say anything without any proof I also used to think same like you that prabhupada was poisoned to death but the I have a proof so I am 100% sure that prabhupada was never poisoned with full explanation.
PADA: Prabhupada says he is being poisoned. (B) He says he has the symptoms of a person being poisoned. (C) He says people around him are talking about his being poisoned (yeh sab friends). (D) One Kaviraja says that he found bone marrow in the urine sample, a symptom of heavy metal poison. (D) Forensically verified whispers show that people around in were in fact -- talking about poison, including sinister giggling. (E) Bhakti Caru is crying outside the room because -- Srila Prabhupada is saying he is being poisoned. (F) A gurukuli there said he suspected poison, at the time.
KT: I gave you the link of original tapes of prabhupada and you are not believing. Truth is in front of you but you are so bewildered that you became blind that you can’t see the truth presented to to you. Believe in false propaganda and live in ignorance as I lived for many years. I will challenge you if you are brave enough and want to know what prabhupada was actually speaking watch the video given by me then argue with me.
PADA: OK I have Brijabasi friends and when I played them the tape they started crying and said "they poisoned him." You are crying because we are pointing this out? So the other people who listened to the tape, namely the Bengali news people who translated the tapes, also said, they poisoned this man. So we already had all this -- way before the other evidences came in.
Mayesvara also made no concrete new arguments in his video, we already covered all of his arguments many years ago. The GBC came out with a book ... that had a fake audio expert (he records rock and roll) and their doctor was also a fake, he was only a nurse. Then they came up with this video, using Amarendra, a known faker who defends the child molesting process. Why are we even quoting this guy? He defends evil, and he also lost their case. We already challenged these jokers in court, they lost. ys pd
KT: pada1008 I don’t believe in the rumors like you do as prabhupada said they may kill me also, don’t torture me, why you want to show this clip as a so called evidence which the truth was missing. Yes you know everything because you are a parmeshwar if you have any evidence then prove me how they are fake and how do you know are you all pervading parmatma.
PADA: Yes, "my only request is -- please do not torture me and put me to death." That explains the whole thing in a nutshell right there. My Brijabasi friends convinced me -- way before I even played the tape to anyone else. They speak Braj, and they know Srila Prabhupada personally. They were crying. You are crying because they knew what happened, that's all.
PADA: The investigation was already going on before Nityananda was involved. We had some Brijabasis on board right at the start. Nityananda is one of many people who agreed with my presentation of the tapes in 1997.
KT: pada1008 friends of srila prabhupada's are not liars but the whole iskcon devotees are liars. And all disciples of srila prabhupada are liars. So I am also bogus and all the followers of prabhupada are bogus and out of iskcon. Everyone is pure and innocent devotees and what about the god brothers of srila prabhupada who were very jealous of srila prabhupada.
KT: pada1008 you always refer to this clip don’t torture me and put to death just hearing it a normal person thinks that prabhupada was tortured to death but in the full audio the full scenario changes. And you still refer this clip as a evidence what a hypocrisy.
PADA: You lost me when you said the Brijabasis are liars and fools, and a guy who defends child molester guru programs is valid. Ask any person walking down the street, do we trust the friends of a person, or a certified defender of deviants? Srila Prabhupada said ... my only request is, please don't torture me and put me to death. And you are criticizing his statements, saying we are wrong to expose these statements?
PADA: So Jesus is not a pure devotee? Why are you guys always coming up with the idea that Jesus is not a pure devotee, so he is being attacked? And Maharaja Pariksit is not a pure devotee? And Pradyumna was killed because he is not a pure devotee, and Bhishma is not a pure devotee ... and so on and so forth? You guys really need to start to read the Vedas, pure devotees can be attacked, and have been -- throughout history. ys pd
KT: Who told you that Jesus wasn’t a great devotee? Prabhupada was never poisoned as prabhupada himself stated.
PADA: "Vahi bat ye hamko poison diye," he said he is having mental distress from being poisoned. And the people there are talking about poison, etc.
KT: pada1008 truth is that this nityananda dasa is a traitor and so-called truth committee is misguiding the devotees
PADA: Ok so you have no explanation why they are whispering about poison etc.
KT: pada1008 truth is that this nityananda dasa is a traitor and so-called truth committee is misguiding the devotees
PADA: Ok so you have no explanation why they are whispering about poison etc.
KT: pada1008 the whisper is debunked by the audio engineers can they stated it is the swelling is going down not poison is going down.
PADA: No, three separate audio labs all agreed they are discussing poison ... they confirmed.
KT: I am suggesting you to watch this video with full scientific explanation what the actual matter https://youtu.be/vA-CzGs8XfA . You can’t say anything without any proof I also used to think same like you that prabhupada was poisoned to death but the I have a proof so I am 100% sure that prabhupada was never poisoned with full explanation.
PADA: Prabhupada says he is being poisoned. (B) He says he has the symptoms of a person being poisoned. (C) He says people around him are talking about his being poisoned (yeh sab friends). (D) One Kaviraja says that he found bone marrow in the urine sample, a symptom of heavy metal poison. (D) Forensically verified whispers show that people around in were in fact -- talking about poison, including sinister giggling. (E) Bhakti Caru is crying outside the room because -- Srila Prabhupada is saying he is being poisoned. (F) A gurukuli there said he suspected poison, at the time.
(G) Srila Prabhupada says, please do not torture me and put me to death. (H) Srila Prabhupada says -- there is a Ravana in his room, and he needs to leave his room and be on a bullock cart, because he would rather be killed by Rama. (I) Tamal was saying to Satsvarupa that Srila Prabhupada "wanted something to make him disappear" (poison). (J) The entire tape was hidden and not revealed, and we had to obtain a copy by various sneaky tricks -- they were hiding it (reason is self evident).
(K) I played the tape to a Bengali editor (who did the first transcript) and Brijabasi friends in 1997, the Brijabasis cried, the editor grimaced and and both said -- this man was poisoned. (L) A hair sample reveals heavy metal in the hair indicating "chronic poisoning over a period of time." (M) FBI folks said this would be prosecuted as a homicide if this had happened in the USA. (N) Bhakti Caru, Adridharan and others reported "being shocked at the complaint," thus everyone in the room agrees he is complaining of poison and so on.
KT: pada1008 haha don’t torture me and put me into death. Have you listened the full audio of don’t torture me and put to death.
PADA: So this is a funny hah hah issue for you guys? The GBC hired no audio engineers? Who did they hire? ys pd https://youtu.be/chEEThNG_rI
KT: pada1008 not only they have hired audio engineers but also the medical experts who know the consequences and they made a documentary video on cross investigation. I have watched many of the videos and I was also believing that prabhupada was poisoned to death but I found this was a total lie. Why the truth committee lied about don’t torture me and put to death? Why nityananda das is afraid of the courts, he is a coward.
PADA: The main person who helped put together your poison counter video is Amarendra, the person the GBC had assigned to help them get out of their child molesting case. They lost that case, which was a $400,000,000 lawsuit against the GBC. Sorry, the people who are running from the courts are these guys, they pleaded "no contest." Don't torture me and put me to death -- has no good context? ys
(K) I played the tape to a Bengali editor (who did the first transcript) and Brijabasi friends in 1997, the Brijabasis cried, the editor grimaced and and both said -- this man was poisoned. (L) A hair sample reveals heavy metal in the hair indicating "chronic poisoning over a period of time." (M) FBI folks said this would be prosecuted as a homicide if this had happened in the USA. (N) Bhakti Caru, Adridharan and others reported "being shocked at the complaint," thus everyone in the room agrees he is complaining of poison and so on.
KT: pada1008 haha don’t torture me and put me into death. Have you listened the full audio of don’t torture me and put to death.
PADA: So this is a funny hah hah issue for you guys? The GBC hired no audio engineers? Who did they hire? ys pd https://youtu.be/chEEThNG_rI
KT: pada1008 not only they have hired audio engineers but also the medical experts who know the consequences and they made a documentary video on cross investigation. I have watched many of the videos and I was also believing that prabhupada was poisoned to death but I found this was a total lie. Why the truth committee lied about don’t torture me and put to death? Why nityananda das is afraid of the courts, he is a coward.
PADA: The main person who helped put together your poison counter video is Amarendra, the person the GBC had assigned to help them get out of their child molesting case. They lost that case, which was a $400,000,000 lawsuit against the GBC. Sorry, the people who are running from the courts are these guys, they pleaded "no contest." Don't torture me and put me to death -- has no good context? ys
KT: I gave you the link of original tapes of prabhupada and you are not believing. Truth is in front of you but you are so bewildered that you became blind that you can’t see the truth presented to to you. Believe in false propaganda and live in ignorance as I lived for many years. I will challenge you if you are brave enough and want to know what prabhupada was actually speaking watch the video given by me then argue with me.
PADA: OK I have Brijabasi friends and when I played them the tape they started crying and said "they poisoned him." You are crying because we are pointing this out? So the other people who listened to the tape, namely the Bengali news people who translated the tapes, also said, they poisoned this man. So we already had all this -- way before the other evidences came in.
Mayesvara also made no concrete new arguments in his video, we already covered all of his arguments many years ago. The GBC came out with a book ... that had a fake audio expert (he records rock and roll) and their doctor was also a fake, he was only a nurse. Then they came up with this video, using Amarendra, a known faker who defends the child molesting process. Why are we even quoting this guy? He defends evil, and he also lost their case. We already challenged these jokers in court, they lost. ys pd
KT: pada1008 I don’t believe in the rumors like you do as prabhupada said they may kill me also, don’t torture me, why you want to show this clip as a so called evidence which the truth was missing. Yes you know everything because you are a parmeshwar if you have any evidence then prove me how they are fake and how do you know are you all pervading parmatma.
PADA: Yes, "my only request is -- please do not torture me and put me to death." That explains the whole thing in a nutshell right there. My Brijabasi friends convinced me -- way before I even played the tape to anyone else. They speak Braj, and they know Srila Prabhupada personally. They were crying. You are crying because they knew what happened, that's all.
Why did I have to wait from 1977 - 1997 to even get this tape? If its innocent, why was it hidden? That is the truth, all this was suppressed.
My Brijabasi friends can understand the tape better than you or Mayesvara ever could, they know Srila Prabhupada personally and for decades. They told me to run with the issue because, they agreed he is being poisoned. Dr. Kurana (one of the kavirajas) was also convinced, and that is why his son Naveen later on came on board to help me with the issue. Mayesvara has no idea what is on the tape, that is clearly evident. ys pd
KT: I don’t know who is that brajbashi and I don’t believe in anyone unless there is an evidence. I said I don’t believe in someone who claims that prabhupada was poisoned sorry your arguments are just a deceptions. It is clear in a full audio that prabhupada said he don’t want die in the hospital he says afterwords let me die here it’s all clear that what prabhupada wanted to say if you just remove these parts from the audio then it sounds like Prabhupada was begging for the life and he had a fear of death so you people think prabhupada was an ordinary person who is afraid of death you people damaged the image of Srila Prabhupada. If you say iskcon hired a fake audio expert then we can also say ritviks and so-called truth committee made this fake audio recording also with 100% proof.
PADA: Before all this started, when I first got the tape, before playing to anyone, I played it to some Bengalis and Brijabasis. They told me -- these deviants poisoned Srila Prabhupada. The Bijabasis know more than all these experts put together, they are Srila Prabhupada's personal friends, and they know what he is saying. This is proof enough for me. ys pd
KT: pada1008 so prabhupada's sons were also kirtanananda swami, he too was personally very close to srila prabupada. So why iskcon kicked him out and no one believes in him he also started his own fake temples. So why shall I believe in that brajavasi who I don’t know is telling a truth or just lying. Sorry this not an evidence. Everything’s is already exposed now Prabhupada didn’t beg for his life he was fearless devotee of Krishna. It was just a rumor caused by misinformation and elaborated by the fraud nityananda dasa.
PADA: OK well everyone is free to believe who they want to. Mayesvara uses people like Amarendra as his reference source, and he has been the GBC's lawyer -- thus very much disliked by some of the molesting victims -- because he defended the regime. In sum, Mayesvara is not even trying to give us a good source. Yes, I believe the Bengalis and Brijabasis over these guys.
My Brijabasi friends can understand the tape better than you or Mayesvara ever could, they know Srila Prabhupada personally and for decades. They told me to run with the issue because, they agreed he is being poisoned. Dr. Kurana (one of the kavirajas) was also convinced, and that is why his son Naveen later on came on board to help me with the issue. Mayesvara has no idea what is on the tape, that is clearly evident. ys pd
KT: I don’t know who is that brajbashi and I don’t believe in anyone unless there is an evidence. I said I don’t believe in someone who claims that prabhupada was poisoned sorry your arguments are just a deceptions. It is clear in a full audio that prabhupada said he don’t want die in the hospital he says afterwords let me die here it’s all clear that what prabhupada wanted to say if you just remove these parts from the audio then it sounds like Prabhupada was begging for the life and he had a fear of death so you people think prabhupada was an ordinary person who is afraid of death you people damaged the image of Srila Prabhupada. If you say iskcon hired a fake audio expert then we can also say ritviks and so-called truth committee made this fake audio recording also with 100% proof.
PADA: Before all this started, when I first got the tape, before playing to anyone, I played it to some Bengalis and Brijabasis. They told me -- these deviants poisoned Srila Prabhupada. The Bijabasis know more than all these experts put together, they are Srila Prabhupada's personal friends, and they know what he is saying. This is proof enough for me. ys pd
KT: pada1008 so prabhupada's sons were also kirtanananda swami, he too was personally very close to srila prabupada. So why iskcon kicked him out and no one believes in him he also started his own fake temples. So why shall I believe in that brajavasi who I don’t know is telling a truth or just lying. Sorry this not an evidence. Everything’s is already exposed now Prabhupada didn’t beg for his life he was fearless devotee of Krishna. It was just a rumor caused by misinformation and elaborated by the fraud nityananda dasa.
PADA: OK well everyone is free to believe who they want to. Mayesvara uses people like Amarendra as his reference source, and he has been the GBC's lawyer -- thus very much disliked by some of the molesting victims -- because he defended the regime. In sum, Mayesvara is not even trying to give us a good source. Yes, I believe the Bengalis and Brijabasis over these guys.
I really started all this with no other sources other than the original tapes.
The fact that the tapes were hidden proves something is very wrong right out of the gate. I also find it amazing the the GBC people keep saying -- no pure devotees are ever attacked, which means they do not believe Jesus, Pariksit Maharaj, Pradyumna and others are pure devotees. They are totally clueless people who do not even understand the basic points which even the materialists understand, a pure devotee might be attacked, it happens.
The fact that the tapes were hidden proves something is very wrong right out of the gate. I also find it amazing the the GBC people keep saying -- no pure devotees are ever attacked, which means they do not believe Jesus, Pariksit Maharaj, Pradyumna and others are pure devotees. They are totally clueless people who do not even understand the basic points which even the materialists understand, a pure devotee might be attacked, it happens.
So clueless people are not a good reference for anything, they are clueless and rudderless. The people who do not even believe that Jesus is a pure devotee should not have any standing on any topic. ys pd
KT: pada1008, nityananda das Nicokuyth adliteraly hijacked the common land of 11.54 acres, meant for the building of Temples, Gurukulas etc. And had built his own house on such a huge piece of Land. Something like Nityananda's personal 10,000 square foot southern mansion captured the iskcons property and was dragged into the court where his lies got caught. Real tapes? That’s all editing. Why this tape wasn’t destroyed by the GBC if they knew there was the poison tape and they would be exposed. Sorry this is total hoax.
TkG: Srila Prabhupada? You just said that it is Said that you were poisoned ?
Srila prabhupada: No! These kind of symptoms are seen when the man is poisoned he said like that. Not that I am poisoned !
KT: pada1008, nityananda das Nicokuyth adliteraly hijacked the common land of 11.54 acres, meant for the building of Temples, Gurukulas etc. And had built his own house on such a huge piece of Land. Something like Nityananda's personal 10,000 square foot southern mansion captured the iskcons property and was dragged into the court where his lies got caught. Real tapes? That’s all editing. Why this tape wasn’t destroyed by the GBC if they knew there was the poison tape and they would be exposed. Sorry this is total hoax.
TkG: Srila Prabhupada? You just said that it is Said that you were poisoned ?
Srila prabhupada: No! These kind of symptoms are seen when the man is poisoned he said like that. Not that I am poisoned !
PADA: The investigation was already going on before Nityananda was involved. We had some Brijabasis on board right at the start. Nityananda is one of many people who agreed with my presentation of the tapes in 1997.
There are people writing me every day about this issue, and they are agreeing. For you to say that the personal friends of Srila Prabhupada ... who are Brijabasis ... are therefore liars, fools and hoaxters is simply not very respectful. I don't think its your position to attack the Brijabasis as liars, fools and hoaxters -- when these are the personal friends of a pure devotee.
Its amazing to me how you guys will insult and attack even Srila Prabhupada's personal friendly associates and call them cheaters, liars and hoaxters. Of course a lawyer who defends child molester projects is a valid person, I get it. I got the tape because most of it is in Hindi and none of them knew what was on it. Apart from that, Krishna wanted me to have this tape. I was praying to get it, and He got it to me. Sorry, more people are agreeing. ys pd
KT: pada1008 friends of srila prabhupada's are not liars but the whole iskcon devotees are liars. And all disciples of srila prabhupada are liars. So I am also bogus and all the followers of prabhupada are bogus and out of iskcon. Everyone is pure and innocent devotees and what about the god brothers of srila prabhupada who were very jealous of srila prabhupada.
In your opinion one who is brijbashi is always pure. Sorry GBC is formed by prabhupada and iskcon is srila prabhupadas body and he is the soul of iskcon. There may be faults and downfalls of some devotees because iskcon accepts all kind people. Srila prabhupada predicted his movement will last up to 10,000 years and iskcon will live for that time.
No one can destroy the image of iskcon not any silly ritviks who pretend to be disciples of srila prabhupada. Sorry leaving iskcon means leaving my instructions and me prabhupada himself stated so who are out of iskcon are not the followers of srila prabhupada. So you people say srila prabhupada begged for a life which is more insult to srila prabhupada than I did to his so-called personal friends. If prabhupada wanted then the iskcon should should be ruled by his friends not by his disciples.
PADA: OK so the first people I played the tape to are Brijabasis, and they knew Srila Prabhupada personally, and they told me the tape says, he is being poisoned. And ever since then, the GBC people have told me these Brijabasi people are liars, fools and cheats, and INSTEAD we need to listen to the people who defend child molester guru enterprises.
PADA: OK so the first people I played the tape to are Brijabasis, and they knew Srila Prabhupada personally, and they told me the tape says, he is being poisoned. And ever since then, the GBC people have told me these Brijabasi people are liars, fools and cheats, and INSTEAD we need to listen to the people who defend child molester guru enterprises.
Does that make any sense to any normal person?
We do NOT listen to the friends of the person in question, we listen to the defenders of a molester guru enterprise? No normal person would accept that the friends are the fools and the defenders of deviants are the righteous and correct ones? I never said Srila Prabhupada begged for his life, he was not attached to this life. You are making him say things he never said.
Why would you guys say a pure devotee would beg for his life in the first place? Pure devotees are not begging Krishna for their lives? Why do you keep insisting on making the false claim that we said he was begging for his life, when that is not what any of us ever said? Why are you misquoting us all the time, this means you are arguing with your own shadow. You are making a false claim, then attacking it, you are fighting your own shadow. ys pd
We do NOT listen to the friends of the person in question, we listen to the defenders of a molester guru enterprise? No normal person would accept that the friends are the fools and the defenders of deviants are the righteous and correct ones? I never said Srila Prabhupada begged for his life, he was not attached to this life. You are making him say things he never said.
Why would you guys say a pure devotee would beg for his life in the first place? Pure devotees are not begging Krishna for their lives? Why do you keep insisting on making the false claim that we said he was begging for his life, when that is not what any of us ever said? Why are you misquoting us all the time, this means you are arguing with your own shadow. You are making a false claim, then attacking it, you are fighting your own shadow. ys pd
KT: pada1008 you always refer to this clip don’t torture me and put to death just hearing it a normal person thinks that prabhupada was tortured to death but in the full audio the full scenario changes. And you still refer this clip as a evidence what a hypocrisy.
PADA: You lost me when you said the Brijabasis are liars and fools, and a guy who defends child molester guru programs is valid. Ask any person walking down the street, do we trust the friends of a person, or a certified defender of deviants? Srila Prabhupada said ... my only request is, please don't torture me and put me to death. And you are criticizing his statements, saying we are wrong to expose these statements?
He said that so that when we got the tape, we would know what happened, that is so we would understand the history. He wanted us to know what was going on, and so he made these statements so -- we would know. And we do know, thanks to these statements.
That statement was not made for those people there at the time, it was made for those of us who would later on get these tapes and -- expose them, and we did. So now you are saying we should ignore his statements? That makes a lot of sense, ignore his statements and listen to people who defend molester guru enterprises, that is superior information? ys pd
KT: pada1008 just because of your propaganda videos and other ritviks videos it made me so depressed that I stopped believing on prabhupada and Krishna consciousness and it ruined many devotees lives and became non devotees just because of you people. This is not a service for srila prabhupada. Prabhupada said preach not to mispreach just as you people are doing.
PADA: Ok so you are depressed to find out Jesus, Pariksit maharaja, Pradyumna, Bhishma and apparently Srila Prabhupada were attacked. That's nice, but we cannot re-write history. What is depressing to most of the ex-children is the molesting empire, and its defenders. We cannot re-write history.
That statement was not made for those people there at the time, it was made for those of us who would later on get these tapes and -- expose them, and we did. So now you are saying we should ignore his statements? That makes a lot of sense, ignore his statements and listen to people who defend molester guru enterprises, that is superior information? ys pd
KT: pada1008 just because of your propaganda videos and other ritviks videos it made me so depressed that I stopped believing on prabhupada and Krishna consciousness and it ruined many devotees lives and became non devotees just because of you people. This is not a service for srila prabhupada. Prabhupada said preach not to mispreach just as you people are doing.
PADA: Ok so you are depressed to find out Jesus, Pariksit maharaja, Pradyumna, Bhishma and apparently Srila Prabhupada were attacked. That's nice, but we cannot re-write history. What is depressing to most of the ex-children is the molesting empire, and its defenders. We cannot re-write history.
Srila Prabhupada's astrology chart said he would live for many years ... if he could get over the immediate danger from "juniors and subordinates." That is why later he said "jyoti jnana," he was making a reference to that chart, i.e. danger from juniors and subordinates. So these are all historical events.
Tamal told Satsvarupa just around the end of 1977 ... Srila Prabhupada wanted us to give him something to make him disappear, ok that refers to poison. And its on tape, we have the audio. So you can try to re-write all this, but Madhvacarya says, in order to be liberated we need to understand the itihasa, the history. So yes, Jesus was attacked, its very depressing, but its also history and none of us little peanut individuals are going to re-write it, it will stand as it is. Its not my job to deny or re-write history, its my job to know what it is.
These gurus have created a program of banning, beating, molesting, lawsuits and murders, that is poisoning ISKCON all by itself as a separated issue. Would the same people who poisoned his movement also have poisoned him? We think -- yes. Anyway, we keep getting more people to agree, because the counter arguments just don't stand very well. These gurus had already discredited his movement by 1997 when I got the tape, it was too late to save anything at that stage.
So I could have hid this, but the movement had already been poisoned by that point. His being poisoned as well thus made complete sense to me at that point. I was in 1997 also fighting them over the changed books and the molesting issue, so this was simply another evidence of their malfeasance core.
I played the tape to Bengalis and Brijabasis as a test run, and the GBC failed the test run and badly. These Brijabasi people had tears streaming down their faces and I will never forget that. Its history. Even the original Bengali man who did my original transcript told me to never mention his name, he fears for the lives of his family in Bengal, he believes these people are dangerous crooks and poisoners. He knows what the tape says, and he told me that right off the bat in our first meeting, "they poisoned this man." ys pd
KT: pada1008 okay thanks for misleading me for many years Hare Krishna! No more debates because you don’t believe in me and I don’t believe in you so I decided to end it up here because it will never end l lose you win sorry as a bogus follower of iskcon I wasted your precious time.
PADA: So you guys have always said that ... the Brijabasi friends of Srila Prabhupada are liars, fools and cheaters. That has been your entire argument the whole time. Meanwhile you send me a link to a video made by some of the same people who defended the child molesting guru empire. Sorry, following ISKCON is not following these deviant people.
I played the tape to Bengalis and Brijabasis as a test run, and the GBC failed the test run and badly. These Brijabasi people had tears streaming down their faces and I will never forget that. Its history. Even the original Bengali man who did my original transcript told me to never mention his name, he fears for the lives of his family in Bengal, he believes these people are dangerous crooks and poisoners. He knows what the tape says, and he told me that right off the bat in our first meeting, "they poisoned this man." ys pd
KT: pada1008 okay thanks for misleading me for many years Hare Krishna! No more debates because you don’t believe in me and I don’t believe in you so I decided to end it up here because it will never end l lose you win sorry as a bogus follower of iskcon I wasted your precious time.
PADA: So you guys have always said that ... the Brijabasi friends of Srila Prabhupada are liars, fools and cheaters. That has been your entire argument the whole time. Meanwhile you send me a link to a video made by some of the same people who defended the child molesting guru empire. Sorry, following ISKCON is not following these deviant people.
Many folks are coming on board and agreeing because: they see what the Bengalis and Brijabasis saw at the start of all this; way before we had the whispers and all the rest of it; that Srila Prabhupada is himself complaining of being poisoned; and being tortured to death; and being in a room with Ravana; and his yeh sab friends are discussing poison (and they are as the whispers confirm); and his chart says there will be danger from subordinates and he refers to that chart etc.
In addition, the whispers are incriminating whether we split hairs on their exact content; and Bhakti Charu says someone gave him poison here; and Srila Prabhupada said he is having mental distress from being poisoned, and so on and so forth. And our Brijabasis friends agreed to all this evidence. All all of that is lies? OK so that means you do not have any good explanation, and never have had one the whole time.
And as soon as we came out with this issue -- immediately GBC poisoner lover guys like the Janardan / Gopijana / Krishna Kirtan / Sanat / Mukunda / Prahlad das (Paul Coats) / Dayalu Nitai's HKC Jaipur types of ilk -- all screamed in unison with the GBC's folks -- "PADA is a liar"! Because these people all cannot stop kissing the jack boots of Judas, so they will attack anyone who is exposing their Judas and child molesting guru's program's pals. And they sent me links to listen to their molester messiah program's cheer leaders like Bhakta das.
Of course, saying that our complaints about book changes, molesting and poison are "lies" what these people have always done. Its not a substantial argument. That is how they co-created a massive child molesting program of extensive webs and nests, they said we were lying when we tried to expose them and their agenda. In any case, citing Judas defenders is not going to win the argument in normal circles.
Of course, saying that our complaints about book changes, molesting and poison are "lies" what these people have always done. Its not a substantial argument. That is how they co-created a massive child molesting program of extensive webs and nests, they said we were lying when we tried to expose them and their agenda. In any case, citing Judas defenders is not going to win the argument in normal circles.
Sorry, if this is all lies, then why is there no good counter evidence? And where is that evidence? More people are accepting our side of the evidence -- every day, because we have lots of it. In sum, the argument that "PADA lies" is losing traction and big time.
The GBC side of all these arguments, is crumbling more each day. Mayesvara is recycling old arguments we defeated more than ten years ago, he has no new arguments. And if he has to get dubious guys like Amarendra as his ally and witness, he loses all credibility right out of the gate.
The GBC side of all these arguments, is crumbling more each day. Mayesvara is recycling old arguments we defeated more than ten years ago, he has no new arguments. And if he has to get dubious guys like Amarendra as his ally and witness, he loses all credibility right out of the gate.
ys pd
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