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Dear Mr. PADA: The Jayadvaita swami 100% obnoxious beat goes on while he is supposedly retired. On Srila Prabhupada's disappearance day at New Raman Reti Alachua, today's last speaker was Hladini Shakti dd, who began speaking non stop of the glories of Srila Prabhupada original books.
The BTG people who are housed iskcon paid staff at Raman Reti began shouting, "Stop! Stop"! Which she didn't. Finally Mukya dd, the Alachua temple pres, came and physically shoved her a little, then the microphone was taken from her an turned off. The paid off staff of iskcon Raman Reti keeps defending Jayadvaita, unlike most others who are highly objecting to changing Srila Prabhupada's words.
They are his words because he spoke into a dictaphone to write his books, which he said Krsna dictated. They are Not paid to speak up on behalf of the original books which Srila Prabhupada personally spoke, but to defend Jayadvaita's program. It appears that iskcon's hired editors know better than what Srila Prabhupada said. Srila Prabhupada is a shaktavesha avatar, pure devotee. ISKCON thinks his grammar is defective and full of holes, or that others made errors in the editions he used, meanwhile Srila Prabhupada acepted the 1972 Bagavad Gita but iskcon doesn't. End of story.
[PADA: Yes, I cannot imagine why the ISKCON's Alachua people would want Jayadvaita's (Jay Israel) program to be promoted there? After all, Jayadvaita writes -- that in ISKCON their gurus (aka God's pure representatives on earth / equals to Jesus) are often fallen and "engaged in illicit sex with men, women and maybe children." OK why would the authorities of ISKCON ALachua want to teach their own little children there -- that God's gurus / successors are often debauchees having illicit sex with men, women and children? Isn't that child cruelty, to teach little children that God is a giant debauchee -- because His shaksat hari tvena successors are too?
God's successors are more debauchees than the town drunk?
Of course, the GBC had a "reform" (because their debauchee - fried gurus needed to go to "guru reform" school) where the founder fathers of the illicit sex with men, women and children guru lineage -- voted in another wave of messiahs (ok they voted in Jayadvaita). So Jayadvaita swami is certified as another messiah by the "illicit sex with taxi driver's messiah club," and that is why he is promoted in Alachua? Why don't these people managing ISKCON Alachua know that God's "pure chain of guru successors" does not contain -- oral sex with taxi drivers in the holy dham? And they are teaching their children that the sex with taxi driver's guru parampara is the bona fide chain?
God's successors are more debauchees than the town drunk?
Of course, the GBC had a "reform" (because their debauchee - fried gurus needed to go to "guru reform" school) where the founder fathers of the illicit sex with men, women and children guru lineage -- voted in another wave of messiahs (ok they voted in Jayadvaita). So Jayadvaita swami is certified as another messiah by the "illicit sex with taxi driver's messiah club," and that is why he is promoted in Alachua? Why don't these people managing ISKCON Alachua know that God's "pure chain of guru successors" does not contain -- oral sex with taxi drivers in the holy dham? And they are teaching their children that the sex with taxi driver's guru parampara is the bona fide chain?
Why is this not being reported by the saner devotees there to the local Alachua police, Alachua mayor's office, Alachua city council, Florida charity commission and so forth, that the Alachua temple management has been juxtaposing their "worshiped like Jesus" guru lineage -- with debauchees? People who want to worship a guru line that says God's successors are often debauchees -- should not be teaching that to little children? And this is also what the ISKCON Gainesville program teaches?
If consenting adults want to promote the worship of illicit sex with men, women and children guru programs, as their alleged messiah's lineage, or worship illicit sex with goats and donkeys even, that is perhaps legal (I suppose?), but to teach that concept to children would seem to be corrupting the morals of children? Is ISKCON Alachua telling the government people there that they are essentially teaching their own little children that God is a debauchee -- because His successors are? Or are they mis-representing what they are really teaching to the government authorities there?
Why are these Alachua ISKCON people more or less teaching little children that God is a giant drunkard, criminal, sexual predator, fool and debauchee because His successors are self same -- i.e. giant debauchees? This is not what ISKCON's legal incorporation papers state?; That the aim, object and purpose of ISKCON is to teach little children that God's successors are poking every thing that moves in the house? This is really disgusting, the people who want to worship illicit sex guru programs and claim that God's successors are often fallen debauchees should -- not -- be teaching that to small children. That has nothing to do with the teachings of Krishna.
And this is the way Alachua leader's folks glorify Srila Prabhupada on his festival day? They defend Jayadvaita, card carrying member of the worship of illicit sex with men, women and children as God's and Prabhupada's guru successors project? ys pd]
What about the children?
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BG Dasi: This is the worst example of a festival for Srila Prabhupada I ever heard of! Anyone who glorifies Srila Prabhupada's books gets rudely handled and kicked out. Terrible!
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PADA: Well yes, "terrible" is perhaps the most benevolent word we could use. Imagine going to a church and getting kicked out for citing the Bible? This has gone on the whole time. Anyone who says the parampara is not chock full of illicit sex with men, women and children gets the boot, and the same thing happens when people do not want the books produced by the illicit sex with men, women and children sampradaya, we get the boots in face treatment. The only good news is, more people are waking up to this. I think there are easily thousands of people who share your feelings, and the word is spreading gradually. ys pd
Dear TD: Sorry! No I am not kidding. Jayadvaita swami wrote a paper saying that his (bogus) ISKCON GBC guru parampara contains illicit sex with men, women and maybe children. And yes, that means they are saying God is a deviant because His shaksat hari guru lineage of successors are deviants.
ReplyDeleteAnd yes, further proof is that many GBC documents discuss how their gurus are falling down, deviating, being suspended and etc. Yes, shastra says the guru is God's successor, and they say therefore, God's guru successors are deviants. That would make God a deviant if His successors are too? Yes, that is what they are teaching their children, and everyone else. Sorry, but yes all this can be easily proven? Its in their own documents? Yes take a look at the speakers at the Alachua temple for their classes, mostly GBC corporate speakers that we can readily identify, and they are allied with the GBC's teaching that gurus are often deviants. OK which of them is not? And where is their position paper claiming they are not with the deviants? Sorry, I do not think they can "prove" otherwise. If there is any "proof" we are wrong, please send it to me? ys pd
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Good question K Devi Dasi, if Alachua has "the biggest devotee population in the USA" -- why are they tolerating having people at their own local temple preaching -- that acharyas are often illicit sex with men, women and children debauchees and deviants? Well for starters, they never understood the siddhanta, that acharyas are pure. Of course that means they do not know who is Krishna either, otherwise they would know that only a pure person is His successor. Or else they would protest these odious deviations. At the same time, a number of people are part of the GBC's process, and maybe getting a post or salary. Or maybe their wives, husbands or friends are on the GBC controlled sabha, so they have to be good servants of that process or lose their post and friends and so on. Meanwhile, according to a source there, another group of people are fearful of being banned and removed, so they will never speak up. In sum, people are compromised, and that has been the trouble all along. The good news is that more people are waking up about these deviations, and thus they are overall as a community simply being viewed as compromised with evil doers and fools who think God's successors are deviated sexual predators and etc. ys pd
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