Hanuman (Croatia) Let's Remove The Guru Parampara List?

Hanuman das (Croatia)

Bhagavad Gita's guru list: no longer needed?

[PADA: Let's start with this first of all, here is what really happened historically: Most of these people like Rocana / Ajit Krishna / Torben / Hanuman et al. were formerly big promoters of the GBC's and their bogus living guru's idea. Then along came us (the ritviks) and we smashed and spoiled their bogus "living guru's" party by getting their program busted by: The FBI, Federal Marshals, Various police agencies, Federal Courts, Dallas courts, and had their gurus exposed in the mass public media etc. 

Actually, we are still working with some news media folks on some of these issues right now as we speak. 

Then we had their gurus sued for $400,000,000; Then we sued their gurus for changing the books; Then we said, ok your gurus apparently poisoned Srila Prabhupada. And now -- they just cannot admit defeat? They are still promoting their living guru idea, but self-evidently very upset we took their program to task?   

Anyway! Lets get straight to Hanuman's brand new complaint against Srila Prabhupada: the Bhagavad Gita guru's list must be removed! 

Hanuman das says (see below): Guru list should be abolished.

Srila Prabhupada gives us the "guru list" of the predecessor gurus in his parampara, either in the introduction to his Bhagavad or in other places. Hanuman das (Croatia) now says we no longer need this list, we can toss out the Bhagavad Gita guru (lineage) list because Hanuman says -- "no more guru lists." So we no longer need to follow the "list of acharyas," given by the acharya himself? Hanuman mysteriously knows that the list is -- no longer valid or needed? We are going to have a religion which does not list its saints, acharyas and gurus? Really?

How can we identify who is a bona fide guru, what is the actual parampara etc, -- if there is no "guru list" of participants for us to reference? Our other living guru pal Torben says basically the same thing, he does not want to "single out" who is bad (like Indradyumna), or who is bona fide in his guru line. OK so how can anyone else tell what his line is, or is not? We are going to preach to the public, we have no list of our chain of gurus and thus no system of authority from Krishna?  

Since their bogus previous "guru list" was full of so many defects, now we should have no list at all? We should NOW tell new people to throw away the list of gurus -- even though its given by the acharya. And the new people -- or anyone else -- can invent their own concocted list? How can anyone know who is a bona fide representative of the religion, and who is not, if there is no "list of members" of the bona fide chain? 

That would mean anyone and everyone can claim to be members of the chain, because now there will be no system of keep the list in order? Is this not the problem we have already with the GBC, they do not pay attention to who is and who is not in their guru list? Krishna Himself lists some of the people He spoke to previous to Arjuna, Krishna does not need to bother to list "who is who" either? The Vedas are full of examples of people following various guru lines, and taking great care to identify the members of their line. This is no longer required? The list of gurus is no longer bona fide? Why?   

Then there will be anarchy if there is no guru list, because for starters anyone who wants to claim they are on the list can do so with no checks and balances. Where does Srila Prabhupada say, we should allow anyone and everyone to claim they are members of the parampara, and moreover we must get rid of his existing guru list? 

In short: Where does Srila Prabhupada say we can remove his guru list? Where is the authority to do this? Where in fact does any acharya say we no longer need to adhere to their Gaudiya Vaishnava guru list? 

Rocana says basically the same thing, we cannot restrict anyone who wants to be guru. So there will be an open ended free for all, anyone who wants to declare they are acharyas can just say they are, and de facto add their name to the list (like a number of GBC gurus has done)? Sorry, this makes no sense, we need to follow Srila Prabhupada, and the first thing we need to do is, remove his guru list from everywhere? 

Where does he say this should be done? 

And if its a "free for all" of anarchy, i.e. there is no system to identify who is a bona fide representative or not, why is this much different from what the GBC does already? Amazing, the first thing we need to do to follow Srila Prabhupada is -- get rid of his parampara list?  

And worse, this allows anyone to claim to be on the list, its open ended for any Tom, Dick, Harry, and / or messiah wanna-be coming down the pike to add their own names willy nilly? OK that is basically what the GBC has done already, they added people willy nilly to their list of gurus? We do not know by now, this is a failure, we no longer need to list only bona fide persons, we can allow neophytes and others to be gurus -- who might be bogus? If anything, we should have learned by now to protect the list from dubious out croppings.]  

Introduction

In this video, I will prove beyond reasonable doubt that rtviks are trying to kill Prabhupada if 4 major ways:

First is that they are trying to portrait Prabhupada as mundane crazy person.

Second is that rtviks are presenting Prabhupada as a deviant from the vaisnava siddhanta.

Third way the rtviks are killing Prabhupada is that they are claiming that he is not a guru. And fourth way they are trying to kill him is to portrait him as an ordinary person who is not empowered by Krishna.

In order to be rtvik, you have to insult Prabhupada is those 4 ways. Continue watching this video to see the explanation. Rtvik theory consequnce: 1. Prabhupada is crazy

You are probably wandering how rtvik philosophy makes Prabhupada look as a crazy, mundane person. Let’s give a definition first: Mundane, crazy person is someone who changes his views all the time. Prabhupada preached correct parampara philosophy which is recorded in his books, letters, lectures and conversations. What is a correct parampara philosophy?

Mohsin Hassan: Yeah, the tenth. After you, is it any decision has been made who will take over? Prabhupāda: Yes. All of them will take over. These students, who are initiated from me, all of them will act as I am doing. Just like I have got many Godbrothers, they are all acting. Similarly, all these disciples which I am making, initiating, they are being trained to become future spiritual masters. 

Mohsin Hassan: How many swamis do you initiated, American? I’m speaking just on… Prabhupāda: About ten. Mohsin Hassan: You have ten swamis. And outside of swamis, what’s the lower… Prabhupāda: Now, they’re competent. They can, not only the swamis, even the gṛhasthas, they are called dāsa adhikārī, and brahmacārīs, everyone can, whoever is initiated, he is competent to make disciples. But as a matter of etiquette they do not do so in the presence of their spiritual master. This is the etiquette. Otherwise, they are competent. They can make disciples and spread. (Room Conversation – July 18, 1971, Detroit)

[PADA: OK, and this is the whole problem, Hanuman cannot name even one person whom he thinks is competent to make his own disciples? Nor does he explain how we neophytes can absorb sins like Jesus and be diksha gurus, when Srila Prabhupada says we neophytes who act as diksha gurus will be overwhelmed by taking sins? 

And the GBC's gurus are famous for falling down, which even their followers sometimes say is -- from taking sins. We need to add more people to "the list" of fallen guru wanna-bes, and tell neophytes to take sins and imitate Jesus? Why does Hanuman think any neophyte can take the post of another Jesus, and absorb sins? 

Worse, we cannot worship Srila Prabhupada, we need to worship someone else, but -- no one else is named? So its better to worship no one than to worship Srila Prabhupada? Or worse, we should encourage neophytes to act as diksha gurus, so they will absorb sins, make pretend they are another Jesus, and then they often get sick, fall down and die prematurely from taking sins -- after Srila Prabhupada told us many times we neophytes are not authorized to absorb sins? Where does Srila Prabhupada say that we neophytes can be diksha gurus and absorb sins, and why does Hanuman never present this evidence? OK there is none ... the evidence is just the opposite, neophytes will get HIGHLY contaminated by taking sins and FAIL, and they ARE already failing left, right and center.]

This conclusion is proper according to the history of our sampradaya and all the teachings of previous acaryas. But rtviks claim that Prabhupada changed his mind, and in the last months of his presence on earth, make himself the only guru even after he leaves this world. Question is, why Prabhupada preached correct parampara philosophy and then suddenly changed his mind, you could have preached this nonsense from the very begining. But he didn’t.

[PADA: In 1977 he changed his mind, he said suspend sannyasa. Of course he could change anything he wanted to, especially if the previous system was causing problems? So the people he said are not fit for sannyasa in 1977, are fit to be parampara gurus in 1978?]

So, rtviks portrait Prabhupada as somebody who is changing is mind after preaching the opposite thing during the whole ISKCON history.

[PADA: Srila Prabhupada never named anyone as a successor? He also said among my God brothers no one is qualified to be acharya, so do not make false acharyas like my 1936 God brothers did. We cannot simply rubber stamp people as gurus, its not the system. He never implemented a successor guru system for his disciples?] 

But Prabhupada was not crazy, and Prabhupada was not changing his opinions constantly like mundane persons.

Rtvik theory consequence: 

2. Prabhupada is deviant from the vaisnava siddhantha

[PADA: And that is the siddhanta, only a pure devotee can be the acharya, this is stated many times by Srila Prabhupada. Therefore no one can add their name to the list of acharyas without authority from Krishna.]

Prabhupada always followed sastra and his own guru, Bhakti siddhantha Sasvati.

[PADA: And Srila Bhaktisiddhanta also said the same thing, make a Governing Body and not false diksha gurus.]

And he followed them perfectly. He never deviated from the instructions of previous acaryas. And therefore Prabhupada is so glorious, because he upheld proper conclusions and proper transcendental knowledge. Many people suggested to Prabhupada that he should relax 4th regulative principle a little bit, but he didn’t.

[PADA: So we should relax the standards for acharyas now, to include neophytes? We have not seen yet that this does not work? Or promote an acharya who does not have any existence or name? Or what?]

But, if you are rtvik, you have to believe without any evidence, that Prabhupada introduced zombie guru nonsense which we don’t find anywhere in any scripture or in any vaisnava sampradaya.

[PADA: But Hanuman is the person who is promoting a ghost or zombie guru? His guru has no name, no address, no physical evidence of existing anywhere? We need to worship a phantom zombie, and not worship the pure devotee?]

Person who introduces dead guru tattva or any other nonsense is actually deviant from the proper vaisnava siddhanta. So, by claiming that Prabhupada introduces himself as a guru who will initiate although not physically present, rtviks in fact claim that Prabhupada is deviant person.

Rtvik theory consequence: 3. Prabhupada is not guru

Crown jewel argument by rtviks is that Prabhupada never named is successor gurus, Prabhupada never named disciples who will continue giving diksa and that is true.

[PADA: And neither can Hanuman name any other person who is the guru now? He only says Srila Prabhupada is not the guru? Hanuman can only identify who is not his guru, but he does not know -- who is? Srila Prabhupada is NOT my guru, ok fine, then who is? Nobody!]

Rtviks claim that only if guru directly tells you that you are next guru or he writes down list of names, then you can become guru. And then they say, Prabhupada never told anybody to become next diksa guru.

[PADA: That is true, who did he say would be the next guru?]

Additionally, rtviks claim that Prabhupada gave the FINAL ORDER, in which he named rtviks and that system should continue after he dies. So, this is really their crown argument, which is based on ignorance.

Now first we should give background of so called FINAL ORDER. This order was given because Prabhupada was sick and couldn’t travel, and list of his disciples waiting for initiation kept growing more and more. In order to solve that issue, Prabhupada established such a system that his senior disciples can give beads to disciples, which is very practical solution.

Now, I will give you example how stupid FINAL ORDER theory really is. Now imagine that I am a guru, and I tell my disciples I have to drink a lot of lemonade to cure myself. And I make a written order that all disciples should bring me lemons so that a lemonade can be made for me.

After a few weeks, I leave this world, and disciples without reading any of my books say, the only way to go back to spiritual world is to drink lemonade. We will not have anymore gurus and disciples, we will just drink lemonade, that is Hanuman’s final order. Is that reasonable? No, that’s just means you are stupid.

[PADA: But you also do not name any other guru yourself?]

Now, for discussion sake, let’s say that rtviks are right, that you can’t become a guru unless you have direct order by your own guru. So, you guru should come to you and say “After I die, you can start initiating disciples.” That is what rtviks are preaching, you can not become guru unless directly ordered by your own guru. By giving such stupid statement, rtviks actually claim that Prabhupada is not guru.

[PADA: OK well Srila Prabhupada says Krishna directs a PURE person to be guru by being seated in the heart of the PURE guru, the internal chaitya guru manifests externally as the representative of Krishna. So yes, without Krishna giving internal dictation to the guru, who else will? 

Fact: pure devotees get their orders to be guru or anything else from Krishna, or from the external representative of Krishna -- to be guru. Of course! Hanuman says a person can be guru, with no order from these higher authority? That is the whole problem.]

Rtvik theory consequence: 4. Prabhupada is not empowered

Prabhupada was hoping to make at least one pure devotee, and rtviks claim that he couldn’t make any pure devotees who would continue parampara and therefore he decided to put himself as the only guru even after he dies.

[PADA: OK and who is the current pure devotee? Hanuman says we Prabhupada devotees are bogus for offering our bhogha, disciples and everything to Srila Prabhupada, ok so who should we offer to instead? We never said a person could not be empowered, we said Hanuman never tells us who that is?]

Prabhupāda: I don’t make any compromise with these rascals. No words. No, no. I never made that. Even if I don’t get any disciples, I’ll be satisfied. But I can’t make any compromise like these rascals. I cannot make. Ekaś candras tamo hanti na ca tārā sahasrasaḥ. If I create one moon, that is sufficient. I don’t want many stars. That was my Guru Mahārāja’s principle, and that is my principle. What is the use of having number of fools and rascals? If one man understands rightly, he can deliver the whole world. Morning Walk, March 23, 1974, Bombay)

Prabhupada was hoping to make one pure devotee, and rtviks claim that he couldn’t make any pure devotees who would continue parampara, therefore they are very much eager to attack current ISKCON gurus. If no ISKCON guru is bonafide, then they hope they people will accept rtvik system.

But as I already explained, rtvik system is philosophically flawed, and only way for rtviks to win is to produce better gurus than ISKCON has. But they are not doing that, therefore they are hypocrites.

[PADA: Wow! Hanuman thinks gurus are "produced," something like a car factory "makes cars." Sorry! We do not produce pure devotees, a pure devotee is a person who is in direct contact with God. He is not "produced" by us conditioned souls, he is an internally self-realized soul. We cannot "produce" purity, it either exists by internal purity due to connection to GOD, or it does not. We can "produce" connection to God, like we produce plastic bottles in a factory? Nope! 

This is totally foolish, we are going to "produce" pure devotees, like a factory produces cars, bottles and so on? This is a mundane idea of guru, he is not produced by us, much less us fallen neophytes, he is produced by Krishna. Guru is internally self-realized, and then he is DIRECTLY empowered by Krishna, saksat hari tvena, he is not "produced" by us neophytes speculating on these issues. If its so easy to produce pure devotees, why hasn't Hanuman made them himself?]  

Conclusion

Everybody is born as a fool.

Nobody doesn’t want to submit.
Solution

Rtviks start initiating disciples.

Guru list should be abolished.

[PADA: Sum up!

1) Srila Prabhupada's Gita guru list needs to be abolished, no more guru lists. We need to take out all the lists of gurus and their parampara systems made in the Gita / Chaitanya Charitamrtas etc. by Srila Prabhupada? What!

2) Ritviks need to take the post of diksha guru, absorb sins, and get sick, fall down and die. There is not a big enough pile of dead bodies from this deviation already? Thanks a lot! 

3) Only Krishna can produce a pure devotee, but us neophytes can do the same job as Krishna, and start "producing" pure devotees? A conditioned person cannot even produce a flea, never mind start producing pure devotees?

4) We should worship a non-existing phantom guru, a ghost or a zombie.

5) We should offer bhogha to -- apparently, nobody at all? No one is named?

6) Srila Prabhupada said his India born scholarly God brothers are not qualified to be acharyas, but the mleccha class will be now?

7) Hanuman is number one at criticizing his own living gurus?

8) Hanuman is clearly a mayavada, he does not worship anyone, he says we cannot worship the pure devotee, we should instead worship a person who has no identity, a zombie phantom. 

9) Yes, neophyte devotees who are not YET pure can act as representatives of the acharya, as preachers or priests aka ritviks. Why should we telescope the title of pure devotee upon these neophytes?

10) Anyway, these folks like Rocana / Torben / Ajit / Hanuman / etc. they have no living guru at all, and that is why they cannot produce realistic programs, temples, books, devotees or anything else of substance. They cannot produce followers because there is no one in their program to promote as their factual acharya. 

So they will never amount to anything, meanwhile our Prabhupadanuga devotees are making programs, temples, books, devotees and so forth, because at least we can identify the person whom we all worship as our acharya. 

Anyway good idea, do not worship the GBC gurus, do not worship Prabhupada either, and that leaves us with -- we have to worship you, Mr. Hanuman? He is our newly self-appointed leader? Will this fly? You tell us! Yes, Srila Prabhupada says if you do not name your guru, you are making yourself the guru. Hanuman does not name any guru, because he thinks it is he -- himself. Another GBC guru wanna-be. He never tells us who to surrender to, because he wants us to surrender to him, and this is the same tricks used by Tamal and co. We are on to these tricks by now!

ys pd] 

ISKCON's Tower of Babel / Parallels to the Material World

[PADA: A devotee woman from Europe says that most of the devotees over there where she is are living like shell shocked war victims who are dazed, confused, discouraged and dysfunctional. All because -- they have heard so many contrary things over the years, their brains are spinning, and they thus cannot figure out where to even start to clear their thinking up. 

And thus -- the devotee community overall is like "the Tower of Babel." Everyone is talking but no one understands what the other is saying. Hee hee, right!

There are so many camps and endless diversions: 

*** Some have fully or partially swallowed the GBC's and / or their bogus guru appointment / guru voting process; 

*** And / or / fully or partially swallowed the ideas of people who supported the bogus GBC guru appointment, like Sridhara, Narayana maharajas and others; 

*** And / or / fully or partially accepted that conditioned souls can absorb sins as diksha gurus; 

*** And / or accept that gurus fall down left, right and center; 

*** And / or accept that we were told to go to the Gaudiya Matha; 

*** And / or accept that pure devotees are often falling into being debauchees; 

*** And / or accept that debauchees gurus can "vote in" another wave of gurus; 

*** And / or accept that Srila Prabhupada secretly appointed Gaura govinda or others as acharyas, and so on ad infinitum. 

Of course then we have some so-called ritviks who are listening to Alex Jones, Bob Dylan, and perhaps Hitler, and promoting the GBC guru's supporting writings of Bhakta Das and Hari Sauri. Then we have Ajit, Torben and Kim Moller who say worship of Srila Prabhupada is the worst deviation there is, and we need to join Rocana and find some conditioned souls to do pooja to. And thus we need to place the photos of conditioned souls on the altars and offer our bhogha to the photos of deviant people who are falling down, left, right and center. Ummm, even cannibals do not worship illicit sex and drugs deviant lineages as their messiahs?   

Confusion, on steriods.

She says the only good news is that some of these confused people have decided to try to do more harinama samkirtana to avoid sitting around thinking about all these contrary foolish ideas. And she says, all of this proves that KALI Yuga has influenced the Krishna society. Yup! Anyway, here is another example of people who are attempting sorting out these things in their own way, and yes, there are parallels between how the mundane society brain washes people into deviations and how the GBC leaders have done a similar thing. 

This of course happens in real life -- when we take the wrong turn off on the freeway, then start running around in the neighborhood without a map, we keep making the wrong turns. We need to get back to the map of how things needed to be done according to Srila Prabhupada. !!! 

Right now we are again being interviewed by more news persons, and they also cannot believe that (A) the leaders would promote one giant deviation if not criminal action after another and that (B) the flock would not barely protest. So it does seem like there was a mass infiltration of illusion by one means or another, to suppress the worship of Krishna and keep Kali going. In any case, more and more people are waking up and unraveling all this, and they are coming to the right idea. Time is on our side. 

ys pd]     

[PADA: Ummm, madness, yup, what happens when people deviate from the orders of Krishna and the acharyas. Agreed! ys pd]

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Parallels between what is happening in the material world and what is happening in the devotee world suggest a sinister conspiracy

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Nothing is as it seems. Lies are accepted as the truth and truth speakers are treated as criminals, or shunned as heretics. Enmity is fostered while real crimes are hidden. We could be talking about present day ISKCON, or we could be talking about present day USA. The parallels are eerie. In fact the parallels are so pronounced that it is almost as though the events are following some sort of master plan. 

Is it possible that some sort of Sinister Movement is controlling events both ISKCON and the material world ? This article will examine the parallel events and explore the possibility that there are actual demons working behind the scenes in an effort to create the maximum discord while minimizing genuine spiritual pursuits.

Before we examine the parallel events, what did Srila Prabhupada say about the present existence of actual demons? We all know that there were shape-changing demons 5000 years ago when Krsna was displaying His pastimes, but are there still such demons? While it makes sense that such beings would be more likely to prosper in our modern times, compared to when Krsna was personally present, it is actually irrelevant whether the demons inhabit bodies with human DNA or have shape-changing bodies. The Bhagavad-Gita, Chapter 16 gives a complete in-depth analysis of the demonic mentality that is very prevalent today. We can conclude that yes, there are certainly demons walking the Earth today.

Another issue that should be considered is: are the demons capable of cooperating in a grand conspiracy such as to take over ISKCON or to take over the world ? Interestingly, the fact that the phrase “conspiracy theory” has been effectively weaponized, is a clue. After the JFK assasination, the CIA document 1035-960 examines how to discourage people from researching the flimsy explanation about the assassination by labeling alternate explanations as “conspiracy theories.” 

Another clue regarding whether demons are capable of cooperating in grand plans to take over is the book, The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, a translation of a work first published in the Russian magazine Znamya, in 1903. This booklet describes a comprehensive plan and philosophy to take over the world. While the origin and authenticity of the “Protocols” has been widely questioned, a response to their validity was aptly summed up by Henry Ford, "The only statement I care to make about The Protocols is that they fit in with what is going on." A reasonable conclusion as to whether the demons are capable of cooperating in conspiracy is: yes.

Srila Prabhupada's Departure Parallels 9-11

In 1977 the devotee world was devastated with the physical departure of His Divine Grace, Srila Prabhupada. While a few devotees were troubled with events they witnessed or rumors that they heard regarding the circumstances of Srila Prabhupada's departure, most of ISKCON accepted the official story and vowed to cooperate with pushing on the movement our founder-acarya built.

In 2001 the materialistic world was stunned by the destruction and disintegration of the two tallest buildings in the World Trade Center. Although some newscasters at the time of the collapse of the towers compared the disintegration to a controlled demolition, the official story was that the buildings collapsed due to the fire from the jet fuel of the airplanes that flew into the buildings. Most people accepted the official explanation that the event was the works of some dastardly terrorists living in caves in Afghanistan.

The Big Lie Parallels the Iraq / Afghanistan Wars

Shortly after Srila Prabhupada's passing, 11 leading disciples announced that Srila Prabhupada had recognized them as pure devotees and appointed them as acaryas. They were to be worshiped on the same level as Krsna and were to be considered as the sum total of all the demigods. Almost all of their God siblings accepted this Big Lie. Although the truth that they were only appointed as ritviks (officiating for the spiritual master) came out in subsequent years, they were never held accountable for this Lie, and only one of them has sought forgiveness.

Shortly after 9-11 the US Government announced that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, was involved in 9-11 and was a threat to the US. They launched a war which resulted in the deaths of (conservatively) at least 1.5 million Iraqis. They also launched a war in Afghanistan citing that Afghanistan was the country harboring the dastardly terrorists responsible for 9-11. In subsequent years, the truth came out that the US government knew that Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction and was not a threat the the US. But no one in the government or military was held accountable for these lies and unnecessary deaths.

The Take-over of the Book Trust Parallels the Take-over of the US Constitution

Srila Prabhupada set up a irrevocable trust, the BBT, with the beneficiaries of the trust being the ISKCON temples. This Trust was set up to be completely independent of ISKCON and the trustees were instructed to distribute 50% of the income to build new temples, and 50% for the printing of more of Srila Prabhupada's books. Somehow or other, the copyrights from Srila Prabhupada's books were signed over to a corporation named the Bhaktivedanta Book Trust International. 

This BBTi is not a trust, which is an entity that performs for the benefit of the beneficiaries (the ISKCON temples), but rather a corporation that performs for the purposes it was created to fulfill. Most devotees still remain in the dark about the enormous aparadh that was committed by signing away the copyrights from the valid trust. Additionally, in a lawsuit, the BBTi claimed that Srila Prabhupada never owned the copyrights to his works, but rather he was a paid author who was a "worker for hire" by ISKCON to write books.

Shortly after 9-11 Congress decided that the government could no longer be restrained by the confines of the Constitution and passed a series of illegal laws starting with the Patriot Act, a law that, among other things, strips the Constitutional rights of US citizens or other people that interact with the US. Most Americans remain in the dark regarding the flagrant misuse of power that the Patriot Act represents. Like the BBTi that sounds legitimate, the Patriot Act sounds like something that would benefit patriots.

The Book Changes Parallel the “Laws” that Ignore the Constitution

The BBTi commissioned Jayavaita S. to “edit” Srila Prabhupada's books resulting in more than 5000 changes in the Bhagavad-Gita alone. There is no precedent for posthumously editing the works of a pure devotee and in fact setting a precedent that it is OK to edit paves the way for the books in the future to be changed to the point that they could become unrecognizable.

Numerous “laws” and signing orders have been enacted by the US government that completely ignore the constitution. People can now be illegally searched and have their property seized without legal recourse. People can even be killed or detained, again with no charges or recourse.

Pedophilia in ISKCON Parallels Pedophilia in the US government

There is no sane world where the word “pedophile” should be used in the same sentence as guru, GBC or sannyasi. However...

When Hillary Clinton's campaign manager, John Pedesta's, e-mails were made public by Wikileaks, they revealed some sort of code that seemed to be talking about child abuse. Additionally the e-mails referred to something called “spirit cooking”, a supposedly harmless pursuit of calling spirits by using blood, semen and breast milk.

Divide and Conquer Propaganda Parallels Divide and Conquer Propaganda

When the truth about the Big Lie became exposed, some devotees demanded that Srila Prabhupada's instructions in the July 9th letter be discussed and that changes be made in the management of ISKCON so that the Big Liars would be removed from power. The ISKCON management responded by stripping any devotee who wanted to discuss these matters from any post or position and banning him/her from speaking on ISKCON premises. The ISKCON management placed a derogatory label on such devotees, calling them “ritviks.” They encouraged God siblings to take sides and to ban / shun any devotee who has a different understanding of Srila Prabhupada's instructions than their own.

White vs. black, conservative vs. liberal, native born vs. immigrants, heterosexual vs. whatever: in the US divisions seem to be getting stronger and seem to be encouraged by the media

Poisoning the Philosophy Parallels, well, Poisoning

When Srila Prabhupada was physically present, we all knew that our only way to Krsna was through the grace of His pure devotee, Srila Prabhupada. So the Big Lie capitalized on that understanding when they told us that they were recognized by Srila Prabhupada as being pure devotees, capable of delivering conditioned souls from the cycle of birth and death. Unfortunately the 11 Big Liars were unable to behave as though they were pure devotees, and it was their activities that exposed the fact that they were, in fact, spiritually neophyte conditioned souls. 

Once it became glaringly apparent that they couldn't possibly be pure devotees, they didn't step down, apologize and admit their deceit: they simply changed the philosophy. Now in ISKCON, if it turns out that your spiritual master, whom you've vowed to serve eternally, is obviously a conditioned soul, you can just take another initiation from one spiritual master after another until you hit on one who doesn't obviously fall down. 

This is a poisonous philosophy that will result in the disciple accompanying his spiritual master to a very unfortunate destination:

“By false religious sentiments they present a make-show of devotional service, indulging in all sorts of immoral principles, & still pass as spiritual masters & devotees of God. Such violators of religious principles have no respect for the authoritative acaryas, the holy teachers in the strict disciplic succession; & to mislead the people in general they themselves become so -called acaryas, without even following the principles of the acaryas.

"These rogues in human society are the most dangerous elements &, for want of religious government, they pass on without being punished by the law of the state. They cannot, however, avoid the law of the Supreme, who has clearly declared in Bhagavad Gita that envious demons, in the garb of religious propagandists, shall be thrown into the darkest regions of hell (Bg. 16.19-20). It is confirmed in Sri Isopanisad that the pseudo religionists are heading toward the most obnoxious place in the universe after finishing with the spiritual mastership business, which is simply for the matter of sense gratification.” 

Isopanisad, Text 12, Purport

In the material world a body needs air to breathe and food to eat. At this point in history, the air is increasingly poisoned due to geo-engineering and it is very difficult to find food that isn't genetically modified, sprayed with chemicals or treated with radiation. Medicines are contaminated with mercury and other poisons, causing illness and even death.

Conclusions

There are many more parallels which could be included in this article with those listed being the most compelling. While it is possible that these parallels are just random similarities, a more reasonable explanation is that there is an actual plan which is being followed by demons and which is applied to any organization that they want to destroy. The plan is laid out in the book, The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, and it is irrelevant whether that book is factually written by demons, or is an expose of what could have been written by demons. The book gives details about how to manipulate people's minds through propaganda and lies in order to take complete control.

As aspiring devotees of Srila Prabhupada, our mission is to fight the illusory energy. Fortunately although the material energy seems to have the upper hand, all we have to do is to pray for some divine help and it will be available. One of the first ways to access that divine help is to be willing to hear the truth, even if it is unpalatable. I urge devotees who are still serving in ISKCON to demand that the truth be revealed, to insist that the pure philosophy that the way back to Godhead is through the pure devotee, and to insist that Srila Prabhupada's murder be fully investigated with the culprits being brought to justice.

Krishna Monk Will Bless Dogs at Fuji Park

http://www.nevadaappeal.com/news/local/teri-vance-swami-to-bless-dogs-at-fuji-park-on-saturday/

PADA: angel108b@yahoo.com

Indira Ekadasi, Saturday Sept. 16th

Indira Ekadasi (Fast from grains and beans) 

Saturday, September 16, 2017, California

Yudhishthira Maharaj said, "Oh MadhusUdana, Oh killer of the Madhu demon, what is the name of the Ekadasi that occurs during the dark fortnight (Krishna paksha) of the month of Ashwin (September-October)? Please describe its glories to me."

The Supreme Personality of Godhead, Lord Sri Krishna then replied, "This Holy day is called Indira Ekadasi. If a person fasts on this day, all his sins are eradicated and his forefathers who have fallen into hell are liberated. Oh best of kings, one who simply hears about this sacred Ekadasi achieves the great merit earned by performing a horse sacrifice.

In the Satya-yuga there lived a king named Indrasena, who was so powerful that he destroyed all his enemies. His kingdom was called Mahishmati-puri. The glorious and highly religious King Indrasena took good care of his subjects, and therefore he was rich in gold, grains, sons, and grandsons. He was greatly devoted to Lord Sri Vishnu as well. He especially enjoyed chanting My name, calling out 'Govinda! Govinda!'. In this way King Indrasena systematically dedicated himself to pure spiritual life and spent much time meditating on the Absolute Truth.

One day, as King Indrasena happily and peacefully presided over his assembly, the perfect orator, Sri Narada Muni, was seen descending. White as a conch, shining like the moon, like a jasmine flower, like a lightening bolt, Narada Muni descending from the sky. He is decorated with matted locks of reddish hair. 

The king offered Devarishi Narada, the saint among the devas (demigods), great respect by greeting him with joined palms, inviting him into the palace, offering him a comfortable seat, washing his feet, and speaking sweat words of welcome. Then Narada Muni said to Maharaj Indrasena, 'Oh king, are the seven limbs of your kingdom prospering?'

The seven limbs of a king's domain being; the king's well being himself, his ministers, his treasury, his military forces, his allies, the brahmanas, the sacrifices performed in his kingdom, and the needs of the king's subjects. 'Is your mind absorbed in thinking of how you can properly perform your occupational duty? Are you becoming more and more devoted and dedicated to the service of the Supreme Lord, Sri Vishnu?'

"The king replied, 'By your kind grace, Oh greatest of sages, everything is quite well. Today, just by your presence all the sacrifices in my kingdom are successful ! Please show me mercy and explain the reason for your kind visit here.'

"Sri Narada, the sage among the devas, then said, 'Oh lion among kings, listen to my astonishing words. When I descended from Brahmaloka to Yamaloka, Lord Yamaraja praised me very graciously and offered me an excellent seat. As I glorified his truthfulness and wonderful service to the Supreme Lord, I noticed your father in Yamaraja's assembly. Though he had been very religious, because he broke an Ekadasi fast prematurely, he had to go to the Yamaloka. 

Your father gave me a message for you. He said, "In Mahishmati lives a king named Indrasena. Please tell him about my situation here - that because of my past sinful deeds I have somehow been forced to reside in Yamaraja's kingdom. Please give him this message from me: 'Oh son, kindly observe the coming Indira Ekadasi and give much in charity so I can go upward to heaven.' "

Philosophically we can understand that every living entity is an individual, and individually everyone has to practice Krishna consciousness to traverse back to home, back to Godhead. As stated in Garuda Purana, someone who is suffering in hell cannot practice Krishna consciousness, because this requires some mental peace, which the reactionary tortures of hell make impossible. 

If a relative of a sinner suffering in hell gives some charity in the name of the sinner, he can leave hell and enter the heavenly planets. But if the sinner's relative observes this Ekadasi fast for his suffering kinsman, the kinsman goes directly to the spiritual world, as stated in this narration based on Brahma-vaivarta Puranam.

"Narada continued, 'Just to deliver this message, Oh king, have I come to you. You should help your father by observing the fast of Indira Ekadasi. By the merit you gain, your father will go to heaven.'  "King Indrasena asked, 'Oh great Naradji, please be merciful and tell me specifically how to observe a fast on Indira Ekadasi, and also tell me during what month and on what day it occurs.'
"Narada Muni replied, 'Oh king, please listen as I describe to you the full process of observing the Indira Ekadasi.

1. This Ekadasi occurs during the dark fortnight of the month of Ashwin.  

2. On the Dashami tithi, the day before Ekadasi, rise early in the morning, take bath, and then do some service for God with full faith.  

3. At noon, bathe again in running water and then offer oblations to your forefathers with faith and devotion.  

4. Be sure not to eat more than once on this day and at night sleep on the floor.

5. "When you awaken on Ekadasii morning, cleanse your mouth and teeth thoroughly and then with deep devotion for the Lord take this sacred vow:'Today I shall fast completely and give up all kinds of sense enjoyment. Oh lotus-eyed Supreme Personality of Godhead, Oh infallible one, please give me shelter at Your lotus feet."

6. At noon, stand before the sacred form of the Sri Shaligram Shila and worship Him faithfully, following all the rules and regulations; then offer oblations of ghee into the sacred fire, and tarpana directed to help your forefathers.

7. Next, feed qualified Brahmins (obviously non-grain prasadams) and offer them some charity according to your means.

8. Now take the food pindas you offered to your forefathers, smell it, and then offer it to a cow. Next, worship Lord Hrishikesha with incense and flowers, and finally, remain awake all night near the Deity of Lord Sri Keshava.

9. "Early in the morning of the next day, Dvadasi tithi, worship Sri Hari with great devotion and invite Brahmin devotees to a sumptuous feast.

10. Then feed you relatives, and finally take your meal in silence.
Oh king, if you strictly observe a fast on Indira Ekadasi in this way, with controlled senses, your father will surely be elevated to the abode of lord Vishnu.' After saying this, Devarishi Narada immediately disappeared from the scene to bless someone else with his presence.

"King Indrasena followed the great saint's instructions perfectly, observing the fast in the association of his relatives and servants. As he broke his fast on the Dvadasi tithi, flowers fell from the sky. The merit that Indrasena maharaj earned by observing this fast released his father from the kingdom of Yamaraja and caused him to attain a completely spiritual body. Indeed, Indrasena saw him rising to the abode of Lord Hari on the back of Garuda Vahan. Indrasena himself was able to rule his kingdom without any obstacles, and in time when he handed over the kingdom to his son, he also went to the spiritual realm of Vaikuntha.

"Oh Yudhishthira, these are the glories of the Indira Ekadasi, which occurs during the dark fortnight of the month of Ashwin.

Whoever hears or reads this narration certainly enjoys life in this world, is freed of all reactions to his past sins, and at the time of death returns home, back to Godhead, where he lives eternally."

Thus ends the narration of the glories of Ashwin-krishna Ekadasii, or Indira Ekadasi, taken from the Brahma-vaivarta Purana.

Radhe Radhe Shyam (Nice images here) Video

Brooklyn ISKCON Temple Sale / Message to NY Attorney General

[PADA: Commentary was requested by various people, it was too long to write, so here it is in audio format. ys pd] 

BBT Blocks Prabhupada's Books / Promotes Yogi's Books?

https://www.bbtbooks.org/inneryoga

BBT is still harassing Jitarati and not allowing his Prabhupada books to be distributed. 

Alachua Flood Zone Map for Evacuations

http://alachuacounty.us/news/pages/story.aspx?itemID=188

Mendacious Tamohara Dasa And the BBT / BBTI Issue

“Mendacious Tamohara” – The newbie GBC chairman

By Gopinath Dasa

Recently, the ambitious corporate climber, Tamohara dasa / GBC Chairman, posted on ISKCON cheer leading­­­ website a deceptive letter addressing the devotees and the temples, where they should purchase their books. He is attempting to self-righteously clamp down on distribution of the ORIGINAL Srila Prabhupada’s Bhagavad-gita on the pretext that it is not authorized by Srila Prabhuapada’s created BBT.

Tamohara Dasa

The purpose of ‘his’ letter is based on their (GBC) need for continuation of intentional ‘dumbing down’ of naïve devotees that is unfortunately based on complete lie and deception that most of rank and file devotees are not aware of. GBC / BBTI wants to completely control and systematically undermine Srila Prabhupada created ISKCON, BBT and his real teachings which are based on pure devoti­­­­­onal principles.

Their lie and deception is twofold;

1) Firstly, after Srila Prabhupada’s departure they fraudulently and secretly incorporated their own private BBT called BBT INTERNATIONAL, that illegally replaced Srila Prabhupada’s BBT in their attempt to usurp total control and to put a stop to distribution of original Srila Prabhupada’s books. Replacing them with their own revised editions that was mentally contrived by Jayadvaita swami.

Within this fraudulent BBT INTERNATIONAL (as per FORM TX – For a Literary Work – United States Copyright Office Registration form) Srila Prabhupada is not even mentioned. In point 2 of the form the ‘NAME OF THE AUTHOR is given as – The Bhaktivedanta Book Trust. There is no mention of Śrīla Prabhupāda as the author of the Bhagavad Gītā As It Is. Why? “

This opens up a Pandora’s Box of questions…

For example why is there any need for a “Corporation” to assist the BBT in its service?

Who authorized the establishment of the BBTi to “acts\” as an authorized agent”
Why does this ‘authorized agent’ for Śrīla Prabhupāda’s BBT now have the ‘copyrights’ for Śrīla Prabhupāda’s books?

What or who stopped the BBT from printing his Śrīla Prabhupāda’s books in their original unedited format as a natural process after Śrīla Prabhupāda entered into Samādhi?

Is there any authorization from Srila Prabhupada stipulating that his books should be edited after his entrance into Samādhi?

And if there is no authorization for editing or printing Śrīla Prabhupāda’s books, why are they doing it, especially after it is creating so much controversy amongst Śrīla Prabhupāda direct disciples?

Following is what the BBT International say is the relationship between the BBT and BBTi.

BBT? BBTI? Who’s who?

The Bhaktivedanta Book Trust (BBT) is a California religious trust that owns the copyrights to the works published by His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada during his lifetime.

The Bhaktivedanta Book Trust International (BBTI) is a California corporation that has acted as an authorized agent of the Bhaktivedanta Book Trust since 1988. The BBTI also owns the rights to some later works.

The BBT and BBTI work together to protect Srila Prabhupada’s rights and serve his will.

The important aspect of this subterfuge is that no one really knows what is going on… First they say that Śrīla Prabhupāda ‘owns’ the copyright of his book as per the BBT documentation but and it is a big but, what is this document where it shows the BBTi have the copyright of Śrīla Prabhupāda’s Bhagavad Gītā As It Is???

What Bhagavad Gītā are they copyrighting? Is this their way of replacing Śrīla Prabhupāda’s Gītā with their own edited version so it can be edited ad infinitum all the while leaving Śrīla Prabhupāda’s Gītā gathering dust archived somewhere?

This also begs the question how many of Śrīla Prabhupāda’s books have they done away with him as the author and placed the BBT as the author, leading the unsuspecting devotees to believe that they are reading and distributing Śrīla Prabhupāda’s books but in actual fact these are reading and distributing phony books.

I would not be surprised if in the future they openly say that these are not Śrīla Prabhupāda’s books at all, bearing in mind they ‘legally’ state that these books are ‘authored’ by the Bhaktivedanta Book Trust.

The general devotees are so dumbed down to accept anything that the BBTi does or say as gospel truth or should we say ‘emet’ truth.

Consequently, once Śrīla Prabhupāda’s ‘as it is’ stance based on the ‘absolute truth” is undermined by the subjective truths of individuals such as Jaya Advaita Swami, then his books become ‘open game’ for any future BBT corporation/board and corporate members to edit according to their own interpretations of the truth that are fashionable at the particular time, place and circumstances.

Due to this ‘interpretive methodology’ of ‘these rascal editors’ which is based on so called academically contrived secular critical analytical study of texts, they can effortlessly indoctrinate devotees into the acceptance of hermeneutic (interpreting) views, that majority of ISKCON leaders are already habituated with, and are already steering our once glorious institution into the realm of mundane religion (cheating religion) a.i. Mayavadism, Sahajiyism, Hinduism, PC-ism, Corporatism, sentimental Veganism etc…

Devotees such as Ravindra Swarup, Tamala Kṛṣṇa Goswami, Kṛishna Kestra and Hridayananda etc, being heavily influenced and attached to secular academics have basically turned Śrīla Prabhupāda’s ‘as it is’ principles which are based on the understanding that truth is ‘absolute’, into truth being more in the realm of relativistic truth or truth that is malleable according to one’s personal cultural/psycho-physical background/realization/desire/preference.

Here is one but small example of such theorizing;

“The hermeneutical circle or interpretative horizon of scripture for modern readers has exploded out into the entire range of presently available texts drawn from an ever-increasing spectrum of religious and secular traditions. Canonical works no longer enjoy the seeming autonomy they once had, nor are they impervious to scrutiny from outside readers. The top-down, “vertical” process of receiving spiritual truth from infallible scripture is now, more than ever before, faced with the pervasive presence of a multiplicity of voices that challenge the privileged position of any one of them (Taken from – Constructive Theologizing for Reform and Renewal Thomas Herzig (Tamal Krishna Goswami) and Kenneth Valpey (Krishna Kshetra Das)”

2) Secondly, over the years they conjured a plethora of false rhetoric’s to justify and rationalize their big deceptive lie. However any individual, who takes the time to study the issue, will soon recognize that all their feeble excuses are based on bluffing and cheating and nothing else.

a) We are re-writing Srila Prabhupada’s books to appease Academia so we will be recipients of approval by them with a pat on the back whilst telling us “good ‘little’ boys”.

b) We are re-writing the books to make it “closer” to Srila Prabhupada`s drafted version.

Unfortunately, everything that they rationalized and justified up till now is one BIG FAT, and SMELLY LIE. I urge the readers, who are not sufficiently educated with this important matter to visit the https://arsaprayoga.wordpress.com/ to see and analyze the comprehensive evidence that completely exposes them and indentifies them for what they really are.

Since the latest groundswell of the devotees questioning and clearly exposing this BIG fraud, Jayadvaita swami is out of fear resorting to a wicked non-vaisnava behavior in order to bamboozle the naïve devotees and perhaps himself, into believing his deception.

Some time back he wrote an article “Book Changes: History Backs the BBT” lying thru his teeth in the attempt to bamboozle devotees that Hayagriva prabhu never worked together with Srila Prabhupada on Bhagavat-gita. Sadly, for him it back fired on Jayadvaita Swami, when his article was completely and chronologically refuted by Madhudvisa prabhu in article titled Jayadvaita’s Smoke and Mirrors which was a response to what appears to be a planned, conscious and intentional lie on the side of Jayadvaita swami in hope to completely erase Hayagriva pr, from the pages of ISKCON ‘real’ history, and replacing it with his own deconstructed history.

Due to the BBT’s standing on perpetual editing of Śrīla Prabhupāda’s books it has forced devotees who want to see Śrīla Prabhupāda’s original books to be printed and distributed (which is after all the stated purpose of Śrīla Prabhupāda’s BBT) they have resorted to printing his books themselves – for example KBI and in particular Jitarati Prabhu’s printing of the ‘Pocket sized Bhagavad Gītā ’ which by the way was a huge success selling out nearly all 100,000 books that they printed!

You have to pause and think about this for one moment… One Hundred Thousand (100,000) of Śrīla Prabhupāda’s original unedited books! Now this only goes to show that people want his unedited books!

Their success has so infuriated Jayadvaita swami that in his rage he began calling these books ‘rittvik’ books! Not only did he label them rittvik books he also began actively preaching to devotees not to purchase read or distribute these ‘rittvik’ books!

How pathetic is that? He is trying to say that Srila Prabhupada did not write the original books, but the evil RITTVIK`s DID IT!!!!!! ….HELP HELP HELP…save us from rittviks…and their evil “Original Srila Prabhupada” books. Come on Jayadyaita swami, how low can you go?

Naturally, when Jayadvaita swami was asked did Srila Prabhupada give him or anyone for that matter any instruction/consent to re-write his book “ad infinitum” after his departure, his answer is NO. Yet he disobediently continues with his offence to our glorious spiritual master.

WHICH MAKES ME WONDER WHO IS HE WORKING FOR, SINCE HIS ACTIONS CLEARLY AFFIRM THAT SRILA PRABHUPADA IS NOT HIS AUTHORITY AT ALL?

This is a very important point to consider especially when he would be loved rather than hated by many of his godbrothers if he spent his time and efforts to publish Śrīla Prabhupāda’s original books instead of putting our whole Vaiṣṇava society in such a hurtful and disheartening dilemma by spending not only countless hours scouring Śrīla Prabhupāda’s works to find what he perceives as an error or fault in the works of the uttama adhikāra devotee of Lord, editing those works and then publishing what he believes is the more superior / authoritive work.

While we are at it and going on the principle of establishing ‘shadow’ bodies to supersede the bodies that Śrīla Prabhupāda established, I would like to ask the GBC mouthpiece Tamohara dasa, why did they secretly and systematically privatize Srila Prabhupada’s created ISKCON, transferring the control into illegally created ‘shadow’, such as GBC of West Bengal, BBT International corporation etc, that have they own laws and by-laws and are diametrically opposed to the ones created by Srila Prabhupada. Huh, mister mouthpiece, please tell us???

However, I know that we will not hear from Tamohara nor any other GBC and BBTI corporate members (cronies), about this secret hijacking of Srila Prabhupada`s ISKCON, and its replacement with this Fraudulent ISKCON. CALLED FISKCON. We know that you want to keep this secret, because you know if the rank and file devotees wake up to how devious your agenda really is, they will have a revolution and unceremoniously kick you all out onto the curb.

Nevertheless, with time the devotees are waking up, just like is with the case of devious book changes of yours and are becoming more and more educated and enlightened with your secret plans, hence the time will come for you where you will not be able to bamboozle innocent no more and your ivory towers will come crumbling down like a deck of cards, with you in it.

Looking forward to seeing this day taking place.

The main question devotees must be asking is – why are the BBT trustees relentlessly and ruthlessly pursuing this course of action? If all their efforts were placed on the printing of Śrīla Prabhupāda’s original books and making sure the Temples were distributing his books we would not be involved in such terrible controversies for all these years, wasting so much time resources and money that the BBT could use to print more books.

Srimad Bhagavatam Recited (VIDEO 3rd Canto ch. 1-5)

Monkeys Violence Increasing in Vrndavana

http://news.vrindavantoday.org/2017/09/monkeys-kill-vrindavan-residents-seek-solution/

Rocana is still promoting bogus guru appointment ...

ROCANA: It is also well-known that once, when His Divine Grace was asked the question whose disciples would the future initiates be, Prabhupada's reply was that those disciples would be the disciples of the initiating gurus. They would be considered grand-disciples of Prabhupada. And their basis of spiritual life would be Srila Prabhupada's books. It was quite clear at that time that His Divine Grace gave the initiating spiritual masters facility to increase the number of followers for the purpose of spreading the Krsna consciousness movement.

[PADA: Wow! So Srila Prabhupada appointed 11 conditioned souls to the post of gurus, acharyas, parampara members -- and Jesus like messiahs -- who would then absorb sins like Jesus. And Rocana still says we need to place the photos of these "new gurus" on the altars and offer bhogha to them.  

OK, why would Srila Prabhupada "appoint" unqualified people into the post of Krishna's guru successors? Is this not what happened in the post-1936 Gaudiya Matha, they "appointed" conditioned souls as their gurus and they ruined their mission -- as it fell to pieces into a series of "guru scandals"? Why would Srila Prabhupada duplicate this fiasco and appoint conditioned souls as his acharya successors after warning us ever since 1936 -- not to do this?

That would mean, Srila Prabhupada does not know who Krishna is, because he makes conditioned souls into Krishna's guru successors? Rocana has never explained, why would a pure devotee appoint conditioned souls as Krishna's guru successors, if he had any idea who is Krishna? 

No, Srila Prabhupada said just the opposite, he said if we conditioned souls took the post of diksha gurus artificially we would absorb sins and this would make us FAIL. And that is what is happening, Rocana's false Jesus-like messiahs are FAILING left, right and center.

They were never appointed to the post of diksha gurus. We were never told to offer bhogha and disciples to these conditioned souls. This is a myth! Apart from that, it does not work in practice, it creates chaos, scandals, lawsuits, molesting, banning, beating, murders and countless bad media exposes (another of which is in the works). 

And Rocana's top disciple Torben Nielsen (Denmark) is still telling us this is the process, the acharya appoints conditioned souls as Krishna's successors. Did we forget to mention -- Rocana's happy band of messiah sabha pals are credited with -- giving heavy metal poison to the acharya? This lot are the appointed successors to God Almighty? Nope! ys pd] 

Sanjhi Art from Braj (video)

India Sadhu Group Lists "Fake Babas"

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/ram-rahim-asaram-bapu-sant-rampal-on-akhil-bharatiya-akhara-parishad-fake-babas-list/1/1044802.html


[PADA: A great comment: Hindus must identify false Babas and rout them out because they will reflect badly on the entire Hindu society worldwide. Yups! ys pd]

Do not change my words (Gauridasa Pandita dasa)

Srila Prabhupada Memories

“Do Not Change My Words”

Srila Prabhupada used to like to sit in his garden in Vrindavan especially in the mornings. He liked to hear his books read to him daily. One time Yasodanandan Prabhu was reading Sri Isopanisad when Srila Prabhupada stopped him and asked him to reread the last paragraph. After hearing it again Srila Prabhupada said, “Those are not my words! They are changing my words! Is my English not good enough?” Srila Prabhupada became very angry and continued, “This is the worst thing a disciple can do! Do not become like a leap frog and try to jump over the spiritual master thinking you know better than him. Tell them immediately [the editors] do not change my words!”

Srila Prabhupada was very upset about the changes in his books. I never saw him get so angry any other time.

Srila Prabhupada: "The nonsense, they are correcting my translations. Rascal. The rascal editors, they are doing havoc. So you bring this to Satsvarupa. They cannot change anything … So on the whole, these dangerous things are going on. How to check it? It is very serious situation. You write one letter that “Why you have made so many changes?” And whom to write? Who will care? All rascals are there. Write to Satsvarupa that “This is the position. They are doing anything and everything at their whim.” The next printing should be again to the original way." (Conversation, “Rascal Editors” – June 22, 1977, Vrndavana)

Years before Srila Prabhupada said the same thing. "Don’t make addition, alteration. Then you become rascal. Immediately you become rascal. And many times they give me very great credit that I have done wonderful. Yes, I have done wonderful. But what is the reason? Because I am not a rascal. I speak what Krsna has spoken. That’s all. Very easy. Everyone can do that. Not only I. Any of you, you can do this. Simply speak what is…, what Krsna has said. That’s all. Don’t make addition, alteration. Then you become rascal. Immediately you become rascal.(Srimad-Bhagavatam Lecture 1.5.29 Vrindavan, August 10, 1974)

Srila Prabhupada said if someone sees a mistake he is a mistake.

Radha Vallabha; Now Jagannātha had some questions on corrections in the book. In verse twenty-eight it says, "Then he worshiped Śrī Kṛṣṇa, the essence of all Vedas, with this hymn.It's verse twenty-eight, "Then he worshiped Śrī Kṛṣṇa." So Jagannātha said it should be, "Then he worshiped..."

Prabhupāda: No, no. Jagannātha cannot correct. That bad habit he must give up.

Rādhā-vallabha: So we should just leave it exactly.

Prabhupāda: Oh, yes. You should not be more educated.

Rādhā-vallabha: He wasn't changing any of the words. He was just...

Prabhupāda: Nothing of the... This of should be strictly forbidden.

Rādhā-vallabha: So no corrections. That makes it simple.

Prabhupāda: They can divide the synonyms. That's all.

Rādhā-vallabha: Synonyms. So even...

Prabhupāda: That is his tendency, to correct. That's very bad. He should not do that.

Rādhā-vallabha: So I'll just forget this, then.

Prabhupāda: The system is: whatever authority has done, even there is mistake, it should be accepted.

Rādhā-vallabha: Oh.

Prabhupāda: Asa-prāya(?) That is ha... He should not become more learned than the authority. That is very bad habit.

Rādhā-vallabha: He was always wondering how he should think. So I'll tell him that. He thinks, "If I think I see a mistake, what should I think?" I'll tell him what you just said.

Prabhupāda: He cannot see mistake. He is mistake. (laughter) He should... That is being done by this rascal.

Srila Prabhupada's Room Conversation -- March 1, 1977, Mayapura

When Srila Prabhupada was asked by Revatinandan Prabhu if we could read Srila Bhaktisidhanta Sarasvati’s books; Srila Prabhupada said not the ones that were edited by his disciples. Srila Prabhupada also told him that we really couldn’t understand Bhaktisidhanta’s books. He said not even his Godbrothers could understand them. Then Srila Prabhupada said, ” actually, he wrote those books for me.” (Memories of Srila Prabhupada)

Srila Prabhupada translated the spiritual law books for the next 10,000 years, day and night, until his dying day. He translated constantly despite his busy preaching schedule. He did this to live on in the books. He said before he left the planet that he had given us everything in his books. He said the books were the manifestations of his ecstasy. He said if we read his books and cooperated together, every thing would go on nicely. To edit his books without his sanction is risky business. We should try to be absorbed in the ecstasy of the spiritual master and not try to alter it, thinking we can ‘improve upon’ his ecstasy.

Some of the reasons given to justify the modern day editing are that the new edition is closer to what Srila Prabhupada said on the original tapes. Srila Prabhupada lectured on many verses many times and never said to change them. He authorized about three changes, not the 800+- we have in the new Bhagavad Gita. We need Bhagavad Gita As It Was! There is a nicer vibration to the original Srila Prabhupada approved version. I’m sure more devotees would be inspired to distribute the original.

When a new book came out Srila Prabhupada would be in total bliss. I remember when he was so sick he could hardly sit up. When he heard that the new Srimad Bhagavatam had arrived and he asked to be propped up on his bed. He asked for his glasses and more light. As he marveled over the quality of the book and the excellent artwork tears came to his eyes. This gave him life.

Another time when Srila Prabhupada asked a devotee to read in the garden the devotee asked him why he liked to hear his own books so much. Srila Prabhupada said, “I did not write these books. Krishna wrote these books!”

When Srila Prabhupada came into the room and caught me reading the Srimad Bhagavatam, he smiled nicer than ever and told his secretary, “He’s reading in his spare time; this is very good!” I was surprised to see how happy Srila Prabhupada was because I was reading. Srila Prabhupada put everything into his books and we would be better off to accept them as is/was. They made so many devotees in the past and will in the future. They are tried and true!

Another important publication is the ‘Back To Godhead’ magazine. Srila Prabhupada said the BTG and Hari Nama Sankirtan are ‘the backbone of our movement.’ We need a mass distribution BTG. So many of us became devotees by getting a BTG one way or another. It should be cost effective say 25 to 50 cents so we can distribute it for a dollar or so. The old BTG’s are great. We could update the calendar and presto, the all-attractive ‘Back To Godhead!’

Srila Prabhupada said the disease of the Americans is that we want to change everything. Let’s get rid of this disease and maintain what Srila Prabhupada has worked so hard to give us; without adulteration or change.

Hoping this meets you well and Happy in Krsna Consciousness,
Your servant,
Gauridasa Pandita Dasa
\o/ HariboL \o/
Chant and be Happy!