The Spiritual Soul is as pure as God.
But we have to realize who is God,
and who we are, and factually,
before that state manifests.
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KASYA DASA
About Bhakti Vidya Purna Swami, part 1/4
What follows is an unedited transcription, part one of four of the four transcripts, by a disciple of Srila Prabhupada who knew well then Bhaktividya Purna Swami and Suhotra Swami. The purpose of this is to shed light on the dealings and character of Alan Ross Wexler, aka Bhaktividyapurna Swami (BVPS). The names of persons and some places quoted in the text were purposefully concealed because they did not give permission for that.
My opinion is that it should have been BVPS's friends and godbrothers who ought to deal with him in a dharmic way, and not let him morally rot and damage others physically and emotionally around him. Simply to excommunicate someone is not a solution at all. It is just an easy way to seemingly get rid of the big problem at hand. But a big stain prevails. That is still essential to deal with it, but it is not a direct part of this presentation.
daso 'smi
Kashya Das
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Dear Kashya, thank you very much for sharing. I usually write, but this is a fairly extensive topic, so I’ll try to record something. I hope you’ll be able to understand it. I sometimes have a problem listening to recorded messages because I can't understand them. But in this case, it worked, so I think I know what you’re getting at. Of course, that story has various — I would say — levels of understanding.
Regarding that person, the former [leader of the] Gurukula—I call him purely a demon, and for clear reasons. He is an infiltrated demonic person. According to BM, he is a trained agent of Mossad, the Israeli secret service—which sounds very conspiratorial and wild, right? But just from the association I had with him, I can confirm that he is an absolutely "slick," crafty, professional, manipulative person.
I had my first *darshan* with him when V was about 6 or 7 years old. We had a *darshan* with that Gurukula [leader]. I immediately felt this from him. But it was just an emotional thing, and I don’t rely much on my emotions. They can deceive me quite a bit.
But even just his appearance and that whole charade around him — how he walked around in those wooden clogs and with that bamboo umbrella, and how he was always half-naked and with a hairy chest. To put it graphically ... [obscene]"
That was all I perceived from him. His appearance was absolutely demonic. I have training from Sankirtan; I simply feel something "under the breath" sometimes. I don’t trust my feelings, but unfortunately, looking back, I was usually right. So, regarding this person, nothing surprised me. As for V, I must say he is a heavily damaged, abused child, and his testimony as such sometimes absolutely lacks objectivity. And I understand that. I don't see it as something negative. To me, it’s natural.
Even toward us—toward M and me, who always treated him like parents—he acted incredibly cruelly at a certain point. This is precisely the fate of pedophilically raped children: they constantly demand so much love, but when they are supposed to give feedback back, they actually get terrified. And they can wound the heart even of the person who is lovingly caring for them.
So that is V to me. He has many material desires; he is a very materially motivated person, but he is a devotee who survived all of this. Which is admirable. Most of his classmates ended up as dysfunctioning junkies, absolutely traumatized people, and he even tried to help some of them along the way. That was nice.
Thirdly, the testimony that Bhakti Vikasa [Swami] was closely tied to this gentleman is false. That is not true. But as for Suhotra Swami, a certain philosophical bond did arise there.
Because, as I say, this "slick" demon really mastered our philosophy. He mastered our philosophy. So this was completely dangerous, dangerous, dangerous. [The speaker discusses Suhotra's internal state and Mayapur reports].
But even just his appearance and that whole charade around him — how he walked around in those wooden clogs and with that bamboo umbrella, and how he was always half-naked and with a hairy chest. To put it graphically ... [obscene]"
That was all I perceived from him. His appearance was absolutely demonic. I have training from Sankirtan; I simply feel something "under the breath" sometimes. I don’t trust my feelings, but unfortunately, looking back, I was usually right. So, regarding this person, nothing surprised me. As for V, I must say he is a heavily damaged, abused child, and his testimony as such sometimes absolutely lacks objectivity. And I understand that. I don't see it as something negative. To me, it’s natural.
Even toward us—toward M and me, who always treated him like parents—he acted incredibly cruelly at a certain point. This is precisely the fate of pedophilically raped children: they constantly demand so much love, but when they are supposed to give feedback back, they actually get terrified. And they can wound the heart even of the person who is lovingly caring for them.
So that is V to me. He has many material desires; he is a very materially motivated person, but he is a devotee who survived all of this. Which is admirable. Most of his classmates ended up as dysfunctioning junkies, absolutely traumatized people, and he even tried to help some of them along the way. That was nice.
Thirdly, the testimony that Bhakti Vikasa [Swami] was closely tied to this gentleman is false. That is not true. But as for Suhotra Swami, a certain philosophical bond did arise there.
Because, as I say, this "slick" demon really mastered our philosophy. He mastered our philosophy. So this was completely dangerous, dangerous, dangerous. [The speaker discusses Suhotra's internal state and Mayapur reports].
However, he [Suhotra] was also compromised; he just somehow kept going within that institution. Why? I don't know. I would never do that in my life, but I am also a happy man today because I never let myself be compromised institutionally. And that includes within the C yatra, of course, where real "filth" also took place.
You were partially there for that too. And to this day, this filth is being covered for by the same management, which only lives off C cowardice and S stupidity. That is why these people like Mr. BV and T survive. T is a sad case; he's just like a little dog they always send somewhere to bite someone. He's a poor soul, but his motivation is absolutely materialistic. *Kanisthas*—that’s just the kind of people they are.
Never mind, that’s the C Republic. These atrocities that took place in Mayapur... certainly when we speak of Suhotra Swami, who to this day is a rather mysterious person to me. Today I can speak openly with you because time has taken care of these things.
And I think you know more than you knew 20 or 10 years ago. So we are maturing. When I have the choice to search for the truth, the reality, or to insult someone or emotionally disgust them, I’d rather choose the truth and the reality. I don't think that will be a problem with you because you instinctively search for reality and truth as well.
Never mind, that’s the C Republic. These atrocities that took place in Mayapur... certainly when we speak of Suhotra Swami, who to this day is a rather mysterious person to me. Today I can speak openly with you because time has taken care of these things.
And I think you know more than you knew 20 or 10 years ago. So we are maturing. When I have the choice to search for the truth, the reality, or to insult someone or emotionally disgust them, I’d rather choose the truth and the reality. I don't think that will be a problem with you because you instinctively search for reality and truth as well.
You aren't a fraud, you aren't a hypocrite; you are a hard-working person who endured situations that I wouldn't have survived. I have great respect for you in this regard. I personally saw how he [Suhotra] cooperated so much with Mr. Bhakti Vidya Purna. It was absolutely disgusting. For example, I experienced them walking around Mayapur all day in front of children and speaking only the filthiest American slang I can imagine.
The American language is very [expressive], and they enjoyed it. Simply bizarre humor, where they spoke to each other using words I don't even want to repeat. And that was in front of the children.
And that went on all day. So they publicly enjoyed their eccentric excesses like that. The fact that both let themselves be massaged by five-year-old boys, six-year-old boys—hours of massages where the kids couldn’t do it anymore. And they forced them so that their "precious bodies" would be massaged by this. That in itself is a bit "off" for me. I don't care for massages at all, and I don't like it when someone handles my body like that.
No matter, but these are all documented things. That there were the rods—three types of canes: bamboo, fresh bamboo, medium age, a bit harder, and then the hard old bamboo sticks, which the boys had to oil so that they would "adhere" better to their bodies. It was practically ritualistic.
Suhotra Swami must have known about that. But Suhotra Swami was someone who regularly withdrew completely into his own world. It was an incredible, brilliant world. Brilliant people don't do this [standard things]. They are just completely "out." So Suhotra Swami would lock himself in his rooms for days. And only then was it discovered that he was actually manic-depressive psychologically damaged. And he was taking psychotropic medications -- a lot. [Even as a young man]. So it's a disease.
...part 2 to be continued
MB: At some point, we must connect the dots. When Krishna gives us intelligence, we should use it. Otherwise, we become hypocrites and lose that ability to connect the dots. (Shoshana Strook, daughter of Israeli Minister of Settlements, reportedly took her own life at her home.)
KASYA: I get the first part, but why do you mention Shoshana Strook?
MA: Yes, they must be a trained agent of Mossad.
VN: It is so sad that people who are entrusted with duty of care took advantage of the innocent children by inflicting pain and suffering, much worse than Prahalad Maharaj right in the market place of Harinam and Chaitanya Mahaprabhu. How devious and demonic of their acts lusting after the little children, using their bodies for their demonic filthy minds desires? Rascals of the biggest kind. Please add to the class action filed against iskcon GBC for failing to protect the children and for breeding criminal of the worst kind.
KASYA: Unfortunately so.
The American language is very [expressive], and they enjoyed it. Simply bizarre humor, where they spoke to each other using words I don't even want to repeat. And that was in front of the children.
And that went on all day. So they publicly enjoyed their eccentric excesses like that. The fact that both let themselves be massaged by five-year-old boys, six-year-old boys—hours of massages where the kids couldn’t do it anymore. And they forced them so that their "precious bodies" would be massaged by this. That in itself is a bit "off" for me. I don't care for massages at all, and I don't like it when someone handles my body like that.
No matter, but these are all documented things. That there were the rods—three types of canes: bamboo, fresh bamboo, medium age, a bit harder, and then the hard old bamboo sticks, which the boys had to oil so that they would "adhere" better to their bodies. It was practically ritualistic.
Suhotra Swami must have known about that. But Suhotra Swami was someone who regularly withdrew completely into his own world. It was an incredible, brilliant world. Brilliant people don't do this [standard things]. They are just completely "out." So Suhotra Swami would lock himself in his rooms for days. And only then was it discovered that he was actually manic-depressive psychologically damaged. And he was taking psychotropic medications -- a lot. [Even as a young man]. So it's a disease.
...part 2 to be continued
MB: At some point, we must connect the dots. When Krishna gives us intelligence, we should use it. Otherwise, we become hypocrites and lose that ability to connect the dots. (Shoshana Strook, daughter of Israeli Minister of Settlements, reportedly took her own life at her home.)
KASYA: I get the first part, but why do you mention Shoshana Strook?
MA: Yes, they must be a trained agent of Mossad.
VN: It is so sad that people who are entrusted with duty of care took advantage of the innocent children by inflicting pain and suffering, much worse than Prahalad Maharaj right in the market place of Harinam and Chaitanya Mahaprabhu. How devious and demonic of their acts lusting after the little children, using their bodies for their demonic filthy minds desires? Rascals of the biggest kind. Please add to the class action filed against iskcon GBC for failing to protect the children and for breeding criminal of the worst kind.
KASYA: Unfortunately so.
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SRIDHARA SRINIVASA UPDATE
If a pure devotee female appears, Sridhara Srinivasa says he is going to be her boss and commander. And he will order her to leave ISKCON and not have any position in ISKCON. And worse, Sridhara Srinivasa says a pure devotee woman is -- engaged in the modern day Kali Yuga mundane feminism project. A pure devotee woman is engaged in mundane feminism projects?
SRIDHARA SRINIVASA UPDATE
If a pure devotee female appears, Sridhara Srinivasa says he is going to be her boss and commander. And he will order her to leave ISKCON and not have any position in ISKCON. And worse, Sridhara Srinivasa says a pure devotee woman is -- engaged in the modern day Kali Yuga mundane feminism project. A pure devotee woman is engaged in mundane feminism projects?
Why does he think he is the boss of a pure devotee, male or female. Krishna dictates to the pure devotee, and Sridhara Srinivasa wants to stop Krishna and take over Krishna's post. That means he is Krishna's boss. I am Krishna's boss? ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com
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NN DASA: ISKCON IN A NUTSHELL
After the departure of our Guru some of his ambitious disciples divided the Iskcon world into 11 zones. They then assumed the roles of impersonator diksa gurus.
Eventually many of them fell down due to illicit sex, accumulation of money in private bank accounts, among other a host of other deviations.
Then the guru system of election was introduced by the GBC. This was never approved by Srila Prabhupada. This bogus system of ambitious individuals has now destroyed the great mission that Prabhupada organized due to cultism and sectarianism.
They have changed his sacred books to justify Their heresy. This is to their misfortune. Liars, cheaters and cover up agents of Kali had stolen the mission.
This important quote from Srila Prabhupada is revelation of what has happened.
Now we have blind leaders recruiting blind followers and their path is not connected to the disciplic succession because of the offence of disobedience to the instructions of our guru.
These are proven facts and here is the warning to all of us from His Divine Grace:
"Now, actually, people are surprised: how this Hare Kṛṣṇa mantra has got power that it is changing people so quickly?" And on the other hand, it is to be admitted, unless it has got power, how it is changing people? So we have to keep that power.
Don't make it an ordinary musical vibration. KEEP IT PURE. So don't spoil the movement by manufacturing ideas. Don't do that. Go on in the standard way, keep yourself pure; then movement is sure to be successful. But if you want to spoil it by whimsical ways, then what can be done? It will be spoiled.
If you manufacture whims and disagree and fight amongst yourself, then it will be another edition of these so-called new movements. It will lose its spiritual strength. Always remember that. You cannot do that. Don't make it an ordinary musical vibration. It is a different thing, it is spiritual. Although it seems like a musical vibration, it is spiritual, completely.
Mantrauśadhi-vaśa.
Even, by mantra, the snakes can be charmed. So mantra is not an ordinary sound vibration. So we have to keep the mantra in potency, potent, by offenseless chanting, by remaining pure. If you pollute the mantra, then it will lose its effect."
Shrila Prabhupada's room conversation -- April 27, 1976, Auckland, New Zealand
These days the mission is more like show business with Kirtan stars not pure servants of the mission of Lord Chaitanya. These sahajia people are not wanted in real spiritual communities. We kick on their face as Prabhupada used to say. Go away and rot in the world of deviation and disparity.
Furthermore:
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NN DASA: ISKCON IN A NUTSHELL
After the departure of our Guru some of his ambitious disciples divided the Iskcon world into 11 zones. They then assumed the roles of impersonator diksa gurus.
Eventually many of them fell down due to illicit sex, accumulation of money in private bank accounts, among other a host of other deviations.
Then the guru system of election was introduced by the GBC. This was never approved by Srila Prabhupada. This bogus system of ambitious individuals has now destroyed the great mission that Prabhupada organized due to cultism and sectarianism.
They have changed his sacred books to justify Their heresy. This is to their misfortune. Liars, cheaters and cover up agents of Kali had stolen the mission.
This important quote from Srila Prabhupada is revelation of what has happened.
Now we have blind leaders recruiting blind followers and their path is not connected to the disciplic succession because of the offence of disobedience to the instructions of our guru.
These are proven facts and here is the warning to all of us from His Divine Grace:
"Now, actually, people are surprised: how this Hare Kṛṣṇa mantra has got power that it is changing people so quickly?" And on the other hand, it is to be admitted, unless it has got power, how it is changing people? So we have to keep that power.
Don't make it an ordinary musical vibration. KEEP IT PURE. So don't spoil the movement by manufacturing ideas. Don't do that. Go on in the standard way, keep yourself pure; then movement is sure to be successful. But if you want to spoil it by whimsical ways, then what can be done? It will be spoiled.
If you manufacture whims and disagree and fight amongst yourself, then it will be another edition of these so-called new movements. It will lose its spiritual strength. Always remember that. You cannot do that. Don't make it an ordinary musical vibration. It is a different thing, it is spiritual. Although it seems like a musical vibration, it is spiritual, completely.
Mantrauśadhi-vaśa.
Even, by mantra, the snakes can be charmed. So mantra is not an ordinary sound vibration. So we have to keep the mantra in potency, potent, by offenseless chanting, by remaining pure. If you pollute the mantra, then it will lose its effect."
Shrila Prabhupada's room conversation -- April 27, 1976, Auckland, New Zealand
These days the mission is more like show business with Kirtan stars not pure servants of the mission of Lord Chaitanya. These sahajia people are not wanted in real spiritual communities. We kick on their face as Prabhupada used to say. Go away and rot in the world of deviation and disparity.
Furthermore:
This letter is in regards to Kirtan from Srila Prabhupada. This was also the standard of Lord Chaitanya.
"WE ARE USING MRDANGA, KARTALS, THAT IS ENOUGH"
"My opinion is that it is not necessary for us to utilize these different musical talents for spreading Krsna Consciousness. I would rather see people follow strictly the path of Lord Caitanya and His Sankirtana devotees.
We are using mrdanga, karatala, that is enough. We are not musicians. We are Krsna bhaktas. Therefore we do not stress so much importance on these different musical talents. Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu is God Himself. Had He thought it would have been better to spread Krsna Consciousness by another way He would have done so.
But no, simply with mrdanga and karatala, traveling and chanting Hare Krsna, asking everyone to chant Hare Krsna, preaching simply Srimad-Bhagavatam philosophy, this is the process. There is no need for us to try and add anything to this simple method. It will only be a distraction.
Therefore I request you to follow the simple path of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu and help me spread this wonderful mission all over the world. Keep yourself pure and fixed up in Krsna Consciousness by following the basic principles that I have given; chanting 16 rounds daily, following the four regulative principles, rising early, attending mangala arati and classes etc. This is of the utmost importance."
Shrila Prabhupada's letter to Jagadisa Pandit, 2/12/1974
"WE ARE USING MRDANGA, KARTALS, THAT IS ENOUGH"
"My opinion is that it is not necessary for us to utilize these different musical talents for spreading Krsna Consciousness. I would rather see people follow strictly the path of Lord Caitanya and His Sankirtana devotees.
We are using mrdanga, karatala, that is enough. We are not musicians. We are Krsna bhaktas. Therefore we do not stress so much importance on these different musical talents. Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu is God Himself. Had He thought it would have been better to spread Krsna Consciousness by another way He would have done so.
But no, simply with mrdanga and karatala, traveling and chanting Hare Krsna, asking everyone to chant Hare Krsna, preaching simply Srimad-Bhagavatam philosophy, this is the process. There is no need for us to try and add anything to this simple method. It will only be a distraction.
Therefore I request you to follow the simple path of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu and help me spread this wonderful mission all over the world. Keep yourself pure and fixed up in Krsna Consciousness by following the basic principles that I have given; chanting 16 rounds daily, following the four regulative principles, rising early, attending mangala arati and classes etc. This is of the utmost importance."
Shrila Prabhupada's letter to Jagadisa Pandit, 2/12/1974
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