PADA: Someone asked me to comment on Kripamoya Harrison's position on all the ISKCON controversies. And if anyone wanted to have their observations included -- send your comments to angel108b@yahoo.com .
As far as my comments on Trumpster-ism and recent events. I believe he is deteriorating mentally and physically, and his current state is maybe the best we are ever going to get. And that is not necessarily good news since it looks like he has placed the USA into another mid-east nightmare -- quicksand -- quagmire war. These neo-con guys also have the same message every time, we had to stop the weapons of mass destruction -- which have not been made yet. Yep! Really?
What is the biggest security threat to the USA? Iranian missiles? Nope, it is the ever expanding deficit and out of control government spending, especially military spending, coupled with massive tax breaks for the wealthy. That has been the problem for maybe 50 years or more.
Going into a giant war expense at this point is not good fiscal policy, when the peon citizens are spending more for food, housing, gas etc. And since the Gulf states are our number one stocks and bonds investors, taking down their economies is not going to bode well for USA. Thanks for investing in the USA, now watch as we tank your economy!
Of course, the Iran regime is not a good program and that is also true, but making it the job of America to clean all these other places up is not working out too well for the USA. And never has.
Srila Prabhupada says the arrogant asuras will fight with one another and damage each other. Krishna does not have to intervene, they will cancel one another out. Seems to be what is happening here. The USA is getting hit with huge oil prices, shaky stock markets etc. while Iran is getting hit with weapons, and both of them think they are winning. That is the nature of ego-tism! So they are sort of destroying each other in different ways.
But for the USA to now say -- ooopseee, yeah we actually had no plan to keep Hormuz open in the very likely outcome -- they will block us -- for attacking them -- means -- there never was any good or comprehensive plan. We are just flying with bailing wire, duck tape, elmer's glue and the good old "bomb them everywhere" plan, that has not worked in our previous "war on terror" programs.
Sorry, even max strength Duck Tape is not going to fix this mess this time around. So I do not know where this ends. The good news is -- China is getting swamped with orders for "green energy" products -- i.e. solar, wind and water turbine products, so that will help get rid of some of the use of fossil fuels, and I am for that.
Anyway, one reason it is so hard to predict how this ends is, the USA has recently been plagued with government unpredictable - ness, and making reliable predictions is near impossible.
ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com
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COMMENTS ON THE VIDEO:
Everyone fell silent. I'm not sure if, at that time, maharaja had already started accepting his own disciples. But, if not, it was not long after that that he did. We were made to be trouble-makers for speaking our mind about something that deeply troubled us and shook our faith, something (the zonal guru situation) that our intelligence could not reconcile with our understanding of Srila Prabhupada's intentions for His ISKCON.
We also wanted to follow Srila Prabhupada faithfully. But because we saw things differently then the big wigs in charge, we were made to be "black sheep". Other devotees were told that we had been "poisoned", that we were not to be associated with, etc.
My so-called initiating guru even told a group of my godbrothers that there was "no chance in this life for me and my wife". The impact that all this has had on me (and, I am sure, on many others who had similar experiences) is best expressed by citing the exchange between Lord Krsna's devotee Uddhava and Lord Krsna's reply to him in the story of the Avanti brahmana in the Srimad-Bhagavatam:
Chapter 22:
Texts 58-59: Even though neglected, insulted, ridiculed or envied by bad men, or even though repeatedly agitated by being beaten, tied up or deprived of one’s occupation, spat upon or polluted with urine by ignorant people, one who desires the highest goal in life should in spite of all these difficulties use his intelligence to keep himself safe on the spiritual platform.
Text 60: Śrī Uddhava said: O best of all speakers, please explain to me how I may properly understand this.
Text 61: O soul of the universe, the conditioning of one’s personality in material life is very strong, and therefore it is very difficult even for learned men to tolerate the offenses committed against them by ignorant people. Only Your devotees, who are fixed in Your loving service and who have achieved peace by residing at Your lotus feet, are able to tolerate such offenses.
Chapter 23:
Text 1: Śukadeva Gosvāmī said: Lord Mukunda, the chief of the Dāśārhas, having thus been respectfully requested by the best of His devotees, Śrī Uddhava, first acknowledged the fitness of his servant’s statements. Then the Lord, whose glorious exploits are most worthy of being heard, began to reply to him.
Text 2: Lord Śrī Kṛṣṇa said: O disciple of Bṛhaspati, there is virtually no saintly man in this world capable of resettling his own mind after it has been disturbed by the insulting words of uncivilized men.
Text 3: Sharp arrows which pierce one’s chest and reach the heart do not cause as much suffering as the arrows of harsh, insulting words that become lodged within the heart when spoken by uncivilized men.
So, for me, dovetailing the impact of having been ostracized for my understanding of Srila Prabhupada's instructions on initiations after His departure, by sharing that understanding on like-minded forums such as this one, is a way to try to follow Lord Krsna's advice to Uddhava to " keep oneself safe on the spiritual platform".
RDD: Hare Krishna, please accept my humble obeisance, All Glories to His Divine Grace Abhay Charanaravinda Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada ki jai. This is the same thing happened after departure of His Divine Grace Srila Bhaktisiddhanta saraswati takur Prabhupada in Gaudya math
GDD: Thank you so much, prabhu-ji, for making this video. (I need to search the previous two). I was tormented by the bogus "guru" Bhavananda Vishnupada (how audacious)! This active homosexual is supposed to be a sannyas, right? For the sake of the culture they should have banished the creep, not allow him to remain.
These evil-doers damaged the souls of many. Since then, by the grace of Shree Radha-Krishna, I have met and serve the mission of a legitimate guru. I sometimes wonder what had become of some of my so-called godbrothers.
PADA: Yep, Hansadutta told me the GBC had many "secret meetings" in later 1977. There they systematically planned out the false guru process. He said Satsvarupa was acting as a typical "Prabhupada devotee" asking the other "10 gurus" a series of questions. And they held mock debates against Satsvarupa -- to get all their arguments aligned.
Satsvarupa said the biggest issue is, we all need to say the same things at the same time. If one of us give different versions of answers, the whole thing will disintegrate. So they spent a lot of time organizing their "guru appointment" claim." And yes, part of the plan was to remove us "doubters" and "people asking too many questions."
When me and Sulochana began to distribute the May so-called "appointment tape," this tape is not actually appointing one, eleven or any gurus. So they decided to try to silence us physically to stop our distribution of the tape. Sulochana was then taken out, and I was only saved by the FEDs doing undercover following me in un-marked cars. So they arrested the three enforcers they sent to get me.
But yeah, they came up with all this "guru appointment" in secret meetings. And there was not actually any order for 11 gurus from Srila Prabhupada. They appointed themselves as gurus. And those who doubted could be in peril. ys pd
GDD: Wow! That's quite a story. An ex-iskcon'ite as myself had heard about Sulochana Das. There's a book about his slaying.
MD: Make ISKCON Files in Hindi for Indian alone … for Hindi speaking devotees and also not devotees.
SP: Vishwa guru srila Prabhupada ki.. Jai!
BR: What should we do? I love Krsna Consciousness
FT: Follow the principles given by Srila Prabhupada to us like 4 regulative principles Chanting of Rounds etc. Read his books. Read Srila Prabhupada books.
Srila prabhupada and Krsna will surely will give us the right direction of right path. I am also Following this process. And also if we love Srila Prabhupada truly then we shoukd read his book Follow his instructions Chant Hare Krsna this is real love towards Srila Prabhupada. Diksha if a formality if someone takes diksha too and don't Follow these basic things then what the use diksha it's just disrespect and ignoring the guru which is very offensive.
Read Srila Prabhupada books!
HK: Vishvaguru srila prabhupada ki jai! Sincere soul will surely be affected by this video and come to shelter of true guru. Plz try this series in hindi also so that we can share it more.
BCSM: It still goes on. There is a hierarchy of gurus, and some (particularly Hridayananda) still cling on to the lie that they were appointed by Srila Prabhupada. No one apologized to me.
HKHR: GBC & Juhu ISKCON's group of temples will NEVER assist Bangalore or those of us that faithfully follow the July 9th directive! These misleaders & unauthorised gurus, who are in control, cannot give up their positions, many getting very weathly. living like a king for profit, adoration, distinction.
They all need to find a new scam and get out of ISKCON now. Keep up the good fight !
LMD: Jai vishwa guru srila Prabhupada!
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HH Krishna Ksetra Swami (ISKCON)
MD: I had an experience that was similar to the one of Gauridasa Pandit prabhu mentioned in this video. In the late '80's (between '86 and '88 I believe), myself and a few other devotees from the Montreal Temple, including Prabhava Vigraha prabhu who, if I recall correctly, was temple president at the time, met at Prabhava Vighaha's house along with Niranjana swami who was then a GBC for Montreal.
We met to discuss the guru issue. As the various devotees were expressing their frustrations with the zonal system, Niranjana swami who was typically a mellow guy, slammed his fist on the table and shouted, "That is our philosophy, damn it, that is our philosophy".Everyone fell silent. I'm not sure if, at that time, maharaja had already started accepting his own disciples. But, if not, it was not long after that that he did. We were made to be trouble-makers for speaking our mind about something that deeply troubled us and shook our faith, something (the zonal guru situation) that our intelligence could not reconcile with our understanding of Srila Prabhupada's intentions for His ISKCON.
We also wanted to follow Srila Prabhupada faithfully. But because we saw things differently then the big wigs in charge, we were made to be "black sheep". Other devotees were told that we had been "poisoned", that we were not to be associated with, etc.
My so-called initiating guru even told a group of my godbrothers that there was "no chance in this life for me and my wife". The impact that all this has had on me (and, I am sure, on many others who had similar experiences) is best expressed by citing the exchange between Lord Krsna's devotee Uddhava and Lord Krsna's reply to him in the story of the Avanti brahmana in the Srimad-Bhagavatam:
Chapter 22:
Texts 58-59: Even though neglected, insulted, ridiculed or envied by bad men, or even though repeatedly agitated by being beaten, tied up or deprived of one’s occupation, spat upon or polluted with urine by ignorant people, one who desires the highest goal in life should in spite of all these difficulties use his intelligence to keep himself safe on the spiritual platform.
Text 60: Śrī Uddhava said: O best of all speakers, please explain to me how I may properly understand this.
Text 61: O soul of the universe, the conditioning of one’s personality in material life is very strong, and therefore it is very difficult even for learned men to tolerate the offenses committed against them by ignorant people. Only Your devotees, who are fixed in Your loving service and who have achieved peace by residing at Your lotus feet, are able to tolerate such offenses.
Chapter 23:
Text 1: Śukadeva Gosvāmī said: Lord Mukunda, the chief of the Dāśārhas, having thus been respectfully requested by the best of His devotees, Śrī Uddhava, first acknowledged the fitness of his servant’s statements. Then the Lord, whose glorious exploits are most worthy of being heard, began to reply to him.
Text 2: Lord Śrī Kṛṣṇa said: O disciple of Bṛhaspati, there is virtually no saintly man in this world capable of resettling his own mind after it has been disturbed by the insulting words of uncivilized men.
Text 3: Sharp arrows which pierce one’s chest and reach the heart do not cause as much suffering as the arrows of harsh, insulting words that become lodged within the heart when spoken by uncivilized men.
So, for me, dovetailing the impact of having been ostracized for my understanding of Srila Prabhupada's instructions on initiations after His departure, by sharing that understanding on like-minded forums such as this one, is a way to try to follow Lord Krsna's advice to Uddhava to " keep oneself safe on the spiritual platform".
RDD: Hare Krishna, please accept my humble obeisance, All Glories to His Divine Grace Abhay Charanaravinda Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada ki jai. This is the same thing happened after departure of His Divine Grace Srila Bhaktisiddhanta saraswati takur Prabhupada in Gaudya math
GDD: Thank you so much, prabhu-ji, for making this video. (I need to search the previous two). I was tormented by the bogus "guru" Bhavananda Vishnupada (how audacious)! This active homosexual is supposed to be a sannyas, right? For the sake of the culture they should have banished the creep, not allow him to remain.
These evil-doers damaged the souls of many. Since then, by the grace of Shree Radha-Krishna, I have met and serve the mission of a legitimate guru. I sometimes wonder what had become of some of my so-called godbrothers.
PADA: Yep, Hansadutta told me the GBC had many "secret meetings" in later 1977. There they systematically planned out the false guru process. He said Satsvarupa was acting as a typical "Prabhupada devotee" asking the other "10 gurus" a series of questions. And they held mock debates against Satsvarupa -- to get all their arguments aligned.
Satsvarupa said the biggest issue is, we all need to say the same things at the same time. If one of us give different versions of answers, the whole thing will disintegrate. So they spent a lot of time organizing their "guru appointment" claim." And yes, part of the plan was to remove us "doubters" and "people asking too many questions."
When me and Sulochana began to distribute the May so-called "appointment tape," this tape is not actually appointing one, eleven or any gurus. So they decided to try to silence us physically to stop our distribution of the tape. Sulochana was then taken out, and I was only saved by the FEDs doing undercover following me in un-marked cars. So they arrested the three enforcers they sent to get me.
But yeah, they came up with all this "guru appointment" in secret meetings. And there was not actually any order for 11 gurus from Srila Prabhupada. They appointed themselves as gurus. And those who doubted could be in peril. ys pd
GDD: Wow! That's quite a story. An ex-iskcon'ite as myself had heard about Sulochana Das. There's a book about his slaying.
MD: Make ISKCON Files in Hindi for Indian alone … for Hindi speaking devotees and also not devotees.
SP: Vishwa guru srila Prabhupada ki.. Jai!
BR: What should we do? I love Krsna Consciousness
FT: Follow the principles given by Srila Prabhupada to us like 4 regulative principles Chanting of Rounds etc. Read his books. Read Srila Prabhupada books.
Srila prabhupada and Krsna will surely will give us the right direction of right path. I am also Following this process. And also if we love Srila Prabhupada truly then we shoukd read his book Follow his instructions Chant Hare Krsna this is real love towards Srila Prabhupada. Diksha if a formality if someone takes diksha too and don't Follow these basic things then what the use diksha it's just disrespect and ignoring the guru which is very offensive.
Read Srila Prabhupada books!
HK: Vishvaguru srila prabhupada ki jai! Sincere soul will surely be affected by this video and come to shelter of true guru. Plz try this series in hindi also so that we can share it more.
BCSM: It still goes on. There is a hierarchy of gurus, and some (particularly Hridayananda) still cling on to the lie that they were appointed by Srila Prabhupada. No one apologized to me.
HKHR: GBC & Juhu ISKCON's group of temples will NEVER assist Bangalore or those of us that faithfully follow the July 9th directive! These misleaders & unauthorised gurus, who are in control, cannot give up their positions, many getting very weathly. living like a king for profit, adoration, distinction.
They all need to find a new scam and get out of ISKCON now. Keep up the good fight !
LMD: Jai vishwa guru srila Prabhupada!
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HH Krishna Ksetra Swami (ISKCON)
Swami Maharaji is one of the Gurus to give initiation. He also had been the GBC’s chair director of the “Department of Deity Worship”.
PADA: OK so we need to offer bhogha to persons engaged in illicit sex with men, women and children, or their cheer leaders, to perform proper deity pooja?
Maharaji had been one of the main pillar preachers with other senior disciples of Srila Prabhupada, in the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe before the Berlin Wall broken down.
PADA: Well yeah after the ruined the preaching in the West they went to former soviet states to find persons ignorant of their history.
Swami Maharaji was also one of the chief members , with HH Sacinandana Swami and several senior disciples of Srila Prabhupadain the “Gauranga Bhajan Band”,
the Kirtan preaching team, Kirtan concerts singing all thru Europe, and Eastern Europe.
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Dr Kenneth Valpey, (In Academy Field):
Experts in Sanskrit, in German, in French… various Languages.
Expert in Kirtan and music.
Research fellow at the Bhāgavata Purāṇa Research Project, OCHS
Research fellow at the Oxford Centre for Animal Ethics (OCAE)
Dr Kenneth Valpey is a research fellow at the OCHS where he is co-director of the Bhāgavata Purāṇa Research Project.
Together with Prof. Ravi M. Gupta he has edited a volume of articles and translated a volume of selections from the Bhāgavata Purāṇa, both volumes published by Columbia University Press (2013; 2016 respectively).
Dr Valpey is also a research fellow at the Oxford Centre for Animal Ethics (OCAE) where he has written and lectured on nonviolence and environmentalism as well as on the application of yoga principles and practices for animal-human relationships and animal protection.
Dr Valpey completed his DPhil (PhD) in 2003 from the University of Oxford with a study of Vaishnava temple liturgical practices and theology (published by Routledge in 2006 as Attending Kṛṣṇa’s Image: Caitanya Vaiṣṇava Mūrti-sevā As Devotional Truth).
Dr Valpey has taught courses on Indian religion and culture at the University of Florida, Gainesville, at Chinese University of Hong Kong, and at the University of Pula, Croatia.
His emphasis is on pursuing a comparative-integrative understanding of dharmic traditions and exploring these traditions in contemporary contexts. He frequently gives visiting lectures at various universities, including universities in Hong Kong and inside the People’s Republic of China.
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Selected Publications of his works include:
1- Cow Care in Hindu Animal Ethics, Palgrave Macmillan, Animal Ethics book series, 2019.
2- Krishna Seva: Traditional Ritual in the Practice of Bhakti Yoga, Dual-language publication, Mandarin and English, Kunming, China: Yunnan University Press, 2018.
3- The Bhāgaavata Putāṇa: Selected Readings, Co-authored, with Ravi M. Gupta. New York: Columbia University Press, 2016.
4- The Bhāgaavata Putāṇa: Sacred Text and Living Tradition, Co-edited, with Ravi M. Gupta. New York: Columbia University Press, 2013.
Selected Publications of his works include:
1- Cow Care in Hindu Animal Ethics, Palgrave Macmillan, Animal Ethics book series, 2019.
2- Krishna Seva: Traditional Ritual in the Practice of Bhakti Yoga, Dual-language publication, Mandarin and English, Kunming, China: Yunnan University Press, 2018.
3- The Bhāgaavata Putāṇa: Selected Readings, Co-authored, with Ravi M. Gupta. New York: Columbia University Press, 2016.
4- The Bhāgaavata Putāṇa: Sacred Text and Living Tradition, Co-edited, with Ravi M. Gupta. New York: Columbia University Press, 2013.
PADA: Why do all these scholars support the pedophile messiah's program? Baffling. ys pd
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BHAGAVAD GITA 10 : 32 -- "Of all creations I am the beginning and the end and also the middle, O Arjuna. Of all sciences I am the spiritual science of the Self, and among logicians I am the conclusive truth.
PURPORT
Among created manifestations, the total material elements are first created by Maha-Visnu and are annihilated by Lord Siva. Brahma is the secondary creator. All these created elements are different incarnations of the material qualities of the Supreme Lord; therefore He is the beginning, the middle and the end of all creation.
Regarding the spiritual science of the Self, there are many literatures, such as the four Vedas, the Vedanta-sutra and the Puranas, the Srimad-Bhagavatam and the Gita. These are all representatives of Krsna. Among logicians there are different stages of argument. The presentation of evidence is called japa. The attempt to defeat one another is called vitanda, and the final conclusion is called vada. The conclusive truth, the end of all reasoning processes, is Krsna."
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