Alvars / Kailash / Badrinarayan / Mayapur Abuse etc. 03 02 26

PADA: I have no real understanding of the Alvars, although I have heard of them from time to time. Here is some idea. ys pd

 

PADA: Yeah just when MAGA promised to make the price of energy go down, they have the straight of Hormuz blocked. I know, just after they promised to "make no more wars." 

Well lets see pilgrims, but it looks to me like they really hit the hornet's nest this time, without wearing the hornet's nest safety suit. Heh heh! 

The good news is that Russia will not be getting as many of those Iran drones now, that could actually save some lives. I am not a big fan of these old Ayatollahs, but they do have a lot of regional sentimental followers, and this could be trouble. Maybe more than we bargained for ... ys pd  

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/iran-conflict-disrupts-global-shipping-as-tankers-are-stranded-damaged/ar-AA1XoBls?

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DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD!

PADA: Someone sent me their comment on the departure of Badrinarayan swami. "Had some terrible dealings with him. He was a greedy, mean, cruel, egotistical, arrogant, selfish man, and he really believed he is a pure devotee acharya. All I can say is, 'ding dong, the witch is dead.' The world will be a much better place now, and a much safer place for Krishna's devotees." 

Oh you mean he was a perfect candidate for a GBC guru? Heh heh heh. Personally, I do not wish them well or unwell, their karmic track record speaks for itself and they will be judged accordingly.   

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Hillbilly mountain man who says

worship of a pure devotee is:

"The crypto Christian ecclesiastical ritvik corporate religion deviation." We need to worship the living 

person -- who cannot be named.

We should worship = zero.

KAILASA CHANDRA UPDATE

OM: Your comment is a sewage spill of logical fallacies and sastric illiteracy. Let’s flush it properly! Dare you run Kailasa prabhu through the grease.

1. On “Uttama Only” & Brahmana Tejyas:

You quote Śrīla Prabhupāda selectively. Yes, the uttama-adhikārī has the potency to burn sins. But Śrīla Prabhupāda also explicitly validated the madhyama-adhikārī as a functional guru: “Sometimes a less qualified or not liberated person may also act as guru and ācārya by strictly following the disciplic succession.” (Letter to Janārdana)

Your position—that only uttamas can guide—is your invention, not Prabhupāda’s. You’ve elevated one statement while burying another that destroys your entire edifice.

PADA: Srila Prabhupada says a Madhyam is "insufficient guidance" and a person needs to select ONLY an uttama as his guru. He also says that a Madhyam can fall down and become an asura, so it is not a fully fixed platform.   

2. On Jesus, Christians, and “Ritvik”:

Śrīla Prabhupāda respected Jesus as a representative of God. He did not authorize merging Christian theology with Gauḍīya Vaiṣṇavism or using secular courts as a preaching platform.

PADA: Srila Prabhupada says worship of Jesus is an eternal principle, because worship of a pure devotee like Jesus is eternal. We cannot merge the eternal into the eternal? Worship of the eternal is not a secular principle? Worship of people who can become asuras is a material principle, and Kailasa is promoting that. 

Your constant invocation of “Christians saved me,” “law enforcement,” and “$400M lawsuits” exposes your real foundation: you are a crypto-Christian litigator dressed in a ritvik blanket, using Prabhupāda’s name to legitimize a worldly legal agenda.

PADA: Yes, Kailasa is infuriated that we saved children from mistreatment by using the Christians, and so is the GBC. 

3. On “Saving Children” vs. “Saving Souls”:

You boast about lawsuits and pulling kids from schools. Impressive, if your goal is material activism. But Śrīla Prabhupāda’s mission is deliverance from birth and death, not courtroom victories.

PADA: Wow, saving Krishna's children is material activism. OK you do not care if the suffer and end their lives, they are material and not important. Sorry, Krishna's children are important to Krishna and His children are not material. Kailasa's idea of worship of the non-entity phantom Madhyam is worship of nothingness, and that is called Mayavada. Worship of nothing saves nothing.

If you actually saved souls, you’d be teaching them surrender to a bona fide living guru, not ritvik heresy, not Christian legal aid. You’ve given them temporary safety but eternal confusion. That’s spiritual malpractice.

PADA: Kailasa has never named the living guru, he wants people to worship no one and nothing, he never mentioned the name of this alleged Madhyam, because he does not exist. Kailasa worships no living gurus whatever, it is bluff. 

4. On “Narada Cannot Fall”:

You’re conflating categories. Narada is an uttama eternal associate. The madhyama stage is for conditioned souls progressing. Śrīla Prabhupāda never taught that only Narada-level beings can act as guru.

PADA: A conditioned soul cannot absorb sins, he told us the over and over, do not let people touch your feet, you will be contaminated.

5. On “Why Are You Envious?”:

No one is envious of your lawsuits. We’re appalled that you’ve replaced bhakti with litigation, sādhana with scandals, and guru-sevā with self-glorification. You cite Prabhupāda constantly and yet have the audacity to reject his clear, living-guru system for a ritvik fantasy he never taught. You’re a parasitic scumb@g feeding on the body of a movement you’ve abandoned.

Śrīla Prabhupāda didn’t file $400M lawsuits. He filed books into the hands of the suffering.

PADA: Yep, as soon as we start a lawsuit to get original books, Kailasa is upset we are going to make original books and not Jayadvaita's. We know whose camp he is in.

Yes Kailasa joined Kirtanananda and said me and Sulochana are drunks and sahajiyas, and he still says that, because he is a disciple of Bhaktipedo. We all agreed to that a long time ago. And he is angry with the Christians because they saved me after he made me a target. We all agreed to that also. Kailasa says worship of a pure devotee is heresy, which is what all asuras said all along. We all agreed to that long ago. Srila Prabhupada says a Madhyam can become an asura, and Kailasa wants children to worship people who can become asuras to contaminate them, and he has done so in thousands of cases already. And after we exposed his asura guru program, he was upset. We all agree? Kailasa has no living guru, he promotes the worship of nothing because he is a mayavada. ys pd

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Yes prabhu this is his photo, Mathura Pati / Mathias Sabji / Prabhupadanugas eu. Yes, he posts on his site -- when PADA is saving children from being starved, beaten and raped, PADA is foolish for saving "slimy stinky stools." Yes, he is worse than the GBC. He posts that PADA is discussing slimy stinky stools all the time, which -- as we all know is -- the small children we helped, and had hundreds of these kids pulled out of GBC schools.

I agree, no normal person says our saving little kids from potentially being beaten and raped should not be done because these children are slimy stinky stools. 

You are correct, a person who takes delight in seeing children suffer will take birth as a child in future and himself suffer, and he will be called stinky stools by the victimizers. I agree prabhu, these people have serious deviated mentalities and yep "they are more sick than the karmis, because mistreating children is intolerable for the karmis." Agree, no karmi would even say our saving children from being beaten and raped is saving slimy stinky stools. 

The good news is the karmis helped me save these children, because these type of deviated "devotees" cannot tell the difference between stinky stools and Krishna's kids. PADA has posted hundreds or even thousands of accounts from these kids, such as the one below, and they think this is all stinky stools material because they have no mercy for children, whereas the karmis do -- and that is why they help us, and help kids. 

And his friends at HKC Jaipur are saying the same things, which is why he advertises the HKC people who also believe kids are stinky stools. Yeah, now you know why so many KRISHNA kids are victims, these type guys are cheer leading the abuse and trying to stop us from helping these kids. Yep, kids are in better hands with the karmis, you got it! Notice, Kailasha chandra says about the same, our saving kids is material endeavor.  

 

ys pd

MAYAPUR REPORT

My name is Veda.

I'm a husband and a father. I live in USA and served as president of ISKCON temple in Atlanta for 15 years. I am also a teacher of Krishna Consciousness with many US students who attend college or are working professionals.

I grew up in the Gurukula of Mayapur. During my time in Mayapur approximately two hundred children passed through the Gurukula. To my knowledge, there are not many who are still actively connected to ISKCON. Most of them now just use karmi names.

It is for these lost children that I write this letter.

I also write because recently, XXX, a brave young woman in Mayapur, broke her silence on sexual abuse by Bhaktvidya Purna (BVP) Swami. I feel compelled to add my testimony to hers. 

Majority in ISKCON believe that no child filed complaints of sexual abuse by BVP Swami. It's not true. I know 6 children who were sexually abused by BVP Swami. Back in 1998, a report was investigated into the sexual abuse of a Gurukula child named XXX. That testimony was debunked and silenced. The boy was threatened, defamed and forced to flee Mayapur for his physical integrity.

I'll be the second guy to talk.

HOW I REACHED IN MAYAPUR.

Reached Mayapur in 1983, at the age of 5, along with my elder brother who was 8. We came from a remote village in Assam. My brother had decided to run away from home and I followed him.

We ended up on a train without knowing where we were going. Somehow we landed at Nabadwip and ended up at Mayapur. We were so orphans we didn't know how to go home. Devotees picked us up from the streets and put us in the Gurukula.

I stayed in the Gurukula as a student for around 14 years and then worked as ashram coordinator and director of Bhaktivedanta Gurukula Village in Mayapur for another 6 years. As a student, I spent most of my time living in the ashram of Bhaktividya Purna Swami (BVP Swami), who at that time was known as Anirdesha Vapu das. He is also known as Gurukul Maharaj.

When we first arrived in Mayapur, BVP Swami was in charge of the Gurukula and decided that my brother should be at the Sudra Ashram, where the children were basically workers. I got placed in brahman ashram. We were not allowed to relate or communicate out of fear of Brahmins getting polluted.

When my parents finally found us, it had been two years. By the time they reached Mayapur, I had become a fanatic Brahmacari and totally indoctrinated at the age of 7. When they tried to take me home I told them that they were not my parents and that my mother and father were Radha and Madhava. Teachers told them that now we belonged to God, and without documents to prove that we were their children, my parents were sent back to Assam, heartbroken.

FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE OF SEXUAL AND PHYSICAL ABUSE IN MAYAPUR GURUKULA.

During my early years in Gurukula I was particularly vulnerable because I couldn't defend myself and had no parents to protect me. For the first 7 years, I was subjected to sustained and extreme physical and sexual abuse by teachers and older students. I was separated from my brother and I couldn't get his help because he himself was being abused.

When I was a child in the Gurukula of Mayapur, I was sexually assaulted by a total of 8 people.

I was sexually abused several times by Gopavrindapal (aka Swami Giri, who later took Sannyas from Nrisingha Maharaj), Vrajadish (a major gurukuli), Mrityunjaya (another major gurukulu) and XXX (a third major gurukule which I choose not to name). I was also sexually abused by restaurant owner, chief disciple of Bhavananda (don't remember his name), also by a pujari of Lord Narasimhadev (don't recall his name), Nandaram (a teacher) and Bhaktividya Purna swami.

#metooharekrishna

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TOUGH LOVE

"Kick on their faces." -Shrila Prabhupada_

Swarup Prabhu straightens out Badarinarayana. A Vaishnava is expected to be a perfect gentleman.. Sometimes Badarinarayana was more like Mr. Burns.
Here's Swarupa's letter to him and his response. This happened two years ago:

Swarup to Badrinarayana:

Last night was the second year in a row I attended the Govardhan Puja celebration at the San Diego ISKCON Center and the second year in a row I watched in dismay as you sat at your little bully pulpit insulting people. Last year you accused a young innocent Indian girl of going up to the “Hill” and stealing, when all she was doing was donating what she baked to the Lord. 

When you found out how wrong you were you did not apologize. Last night you were at it again insulting some elderly lady and then calling me an interloper when I agreed to help give out the sweets which I was asked to do by Braja Kumar’s wife. 

Do you even know the definition of interloper? It’s one who is in a place or situation where they are not wanted or they do not belong. When the words “we have an interloper” exited your mouth I was just about to make a scene and put you in your place then and there, but I didn’t want to ruin the night for all the wonderful devotees and guests. It appears to me (and many others) that you are a little man with a big mouth and big ego.

When I gave you the opportunity of explaining yourself or (God forbid) apologizing you instead doubled down and came up with the brilliant words “It’s not my job to praise you.” What does that even mean? That was all you could think of on the spot? How foolish. Well, neither is it my job to praise you but rather it’s my job to point out to a junior godbrother (having been initiated two years after me) how bad a job he is doing representing our spiritual master. Prabhupada never
behaved like that.

Well, you can be sure that this “interloper” will never again visit nor contribute money as I’ve done many times to the San Diego temple as long as you are there, eating and sleeping at the expense of people like me .

By the way – you need to do a tune up on your lectures. Too repetitive and way too many failed attempts at being cute, clever and funny.
Swarup Das

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Dear Swarup prabhu:

Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.
I received your letter. I am responding by e-mail because I don’t have your mailing address. I got your e-address by e-mailing Kanka dd.

I apologize for being rude and abrasive when you visited the San Diego temple for Govardhan Puja. I have a tendency towards sarcasim. It is one of my many short comings. I am working on this and I am not as bad as I used to be, but that does not excuse my venting on you. 

You have a right to feel welcome and comfortable when visiting Srila Prabhupada’s temples and that certainly applies to the San Diego temple as well. I hope that you will kindly visit the San Diego temple again and give me the chance to welcome you properly. Again, I apologize for offending my senior godbrother.
Your servant,
Badrinarayana Swami