Save the children under the tunnels in Central Park!
https://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/news/4255940.hare-krishna-follower-told-to-stay-away/Apparently died from a massive heart attack.
Mahavidhya was one of the devotees who was opposed to the GBC gurus on some levels, and he was helping along the idea that we need to keep Srila Prabhupada as the acharya. And he wrote some good materials in this regard. So he was an ally of sorts.
PADA: Meme from VG in India.
Unfortunately, Mahavidhya das was also one of the people who fought vigorously against my idea that we need to save the ISKCON children from abuse and subsequent suicides. And he said to me I was basically a demon [for helping have hundreds of ISKCON children pulled out of the GBC's schools, and almost stopping the suicides]. Yep, if there is one thing we need to "save and maintain" its having children stay in the GBC's schools -- so they can be abused and as an added bonus -- they can be trained to worship pedophile acharyas in samadhis.
Not sure why so many devotees wanted to save that process, when the karmis are out there marching with signs angry over supposed or apparent child abuse? Of course he did complain a little bit about Gauri at the Manor, but nothing substantial was ever done to fix that problem, never mind the wider problem.
Meanwhile, the karmis are out there promoting some "save the children" program that they believe is saving kidnapped children who are being held captive in tunnels under Central Park, after these children were allegedly kidnapped from Pizza places. Right, its possible there is no such huge Satanic program -- at least not as huge scale as they believe -- but their sentiment of saving children is very righteous and good. We need more of that and not less.
OK in other words, ordinary people want to see the children saved from Satanic pedophile cults, even if they are just imagining doing that. It shows that normal people respond against child abuse -- and they are in favor of having it shut down, and pronto!
I simply do not understand why we needed to save and preserve a known pedophile guru worship cult process that is causing the victims to suicide?
I was just now explaining to some devotee who is writing a detailed article regarding the ISKCON gurukulas -- that witches and evil Tantrics will offer food to Satan or some demon entity, and then give it to people to contaminate them, to harm them, or even kill them.
So if our children are eating food offered to homosexual pedophile guru cults, that food will be similarly contaminated. A devotee was almost killed when he ate a cursed sweet from a Tantric, and it grew like a rock hard tree root in his stomach that had to be removed surgically. He would have died. OK so eating contaminated food, offered to various Satans, is what ISKCON's children are being subjected to. That devotee agreed with me.
We also both agreed it would be better to eat food from Taco Bell where at least the workers there believe in Jesus, so that would be less contaminated food. Of course we are not recommending eating there, its still contaminating, just less than eating food offered to the Devil. So our children are eating food offered to a pedophile guru project, and that needs to be -- saved? Baffling! I must say.
So Mahavidya, or actually none of our opponents of the idea of saving ISKCON's children, ever explained to me why saving children from abuse and suicide is a bad idea? He told me he was part of the Prahlad group -- the group that wanted to have the ISKCON children continue to be abused and die -- and to have PADA removed from the internet. OK and that "saves" the pedophile cult process and nothing else. A number of the ex-victims told PADA that without our help, they would have committed suicide a long time ago. So our opponents wanted these victims -- to suffer and die, and for us not to help them. Again, Sulochana said these folks are tossing children into a wood chipper.
At least Prahlad says the reason he wants to save the pedophile's pooja program and keep his child abuse and suicide program going is -- so that the "innocent" pedophile worship folks will not lose money in lawsuits. Yes, we not only want pedophile guru's worship to be saved, we want them to be well funded! In other words, the karmis want to save the children -- even from a program they cannot easily prove exists, while these PADA opponent guys want to save the pedophile kidnappers program in the tunnels under Central Park. Or what? They never explain.
Forsooth! We need to make sure the pedophile samadhi folks have lots of cash. And that is the priority issue for some devotees. Sulochana said these people worship money, and they are tossing our children into a wood chipper. Its very sad that so many of the senior devotees went along to get along with that program, and even opposed us for trying to at least offer some relief to the victims. Meanwhile none of our critics ever came up with any organized plan to fix any of this. Instead some of them just tried to organize having us removed from the internet -- which saves the pedophile cult and does little else.
Again! What amazes me at PADA is that we have all sorts of karmis making "save the children from the Satanic pedophile kidnapping cults under Central Park" memes, but the devotees would not do that for their own kids in their own society? Where were the devotee's protesting, or where are they protesting now for that matter? And worse, some of these devotees said its a bad idea to remove hundreds of children from the Satanic pedophile cults [in tunnels under Central Park?] as happened when hundreds of our ISKCON kids were pulled from GBC's schools?
Anyway, he died of a massive heart attack. And we at PADA believe that so many devotees are dying of cancer, strokes, heart attacks and so on, because they are stressed out. Of course some of them are eating food offered to Satan, and that won't help. A nurse friend of mine said its like an epidemic in ISKCON of people dying prematurely. She is astonished at the early death rates and from the fatal ailment conditions causing these deaths. Even my friends in India said its strange that so many devotees are leaving their bodies before reaching really elderly status.
At the end of the day, no hard feelings. At least he offered some resistance, which is more than 90 percent of the others did. He is still a God brother of ours and we wish him well in his future journeys. To sum, God speed spirit soul. ys pd
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LD: I agree. Children were removed from the schools of the GBC. Some suicides were prevented. Anyone who thinks that is bad is not helping children. I too am amazed. Why people would defend keeping the children in the Satanic hands?
ReplyDeleteTaking children away from Satan schools and stopping deaths ... is what they all should have been doing. Its NOT something they need to aid and abet. My friends say the same, PADA has been the main person addressing ISKCON child abuse. Means ... the compromised don't like to see PADA because ... they are compromised.
You are right, even ordinary karmis come out to protest child abuse. Huge signs, rallies, web sites, why haven't the devotees? At least the devotees should help PADA ... if they cannot do anything else. I also cant understand why the devotees do not help. Some say the real reason so many devotees went along with bad gurus is ... they like what they saw. They admire a rotten person because they are themself rotten. There does not seem to be much better explanation. Its nice of you to not hold a grudge. I would if it were me.
VCD: I know some of these kulis ... who got some money from the lawsuit. Without that ... they would have started off without a penny. A lot of ISKCON parents are stone broke. The parents gave all their money to their bogus ISKCON goo-rurus. Parents ... who did not think their own kids would need that money some day.
ReplyDeleteThere was nothing left for a lot of these Krishna kids. It is very strange. So many ISKCON people say ... we are all about helping Krishna's children. Same devotees -- who want Krishna's children to be starving beggars ... no money from anywhere ... to start as young adults. No surprise they had been taking drugs ... committing suicide ... and behaving badly ... as they tell me themselves.
They tell me ... no one cares. And people who do care are called demons. How can devotees act like this ... and not expect depression? And suicides? They are the reason for the suicides.
Mahavidhya is typical. No clue that broke down children without hope ... and without a penny ... will suicide. Another who never understands how badly these children are suffering. And I know ... because I have heard them tell me about it.
These people never understood that the GBC goo-roo people are real criminals. It is amazing ... the karmis are so concerned about pedophile cults. While mostly ... devotees never even bother to make police reports ... when their own kid is beaten or abused.
I am in favor of being strong on this child abuse. We should have a motto like the WW II people who say "never again." I know some of these kulis ... and can say honestly ... anyone who wanted them to die and suicide is part of the problem. And has been ... the real problem ... the whole time.
RE Mahavidhya Das (Michael Keith Powell) Departs
ReplyDeleteMahavidhya exposed that Bhaktivedanta Manor is used by a handful of people to become millionaires. That's why he had to die. Gauri buys houses and rents them out. Kripamoy does the same. So for the mass of people this is a reason to reject the whole thing. Of course, Hindus have no problem when the temple management is a cartel of super-rich folks. But the British people find this decadent. They do not go there. So Mahavidya's sudden death is mysterious and not normal. Probably he was exposed to Novichok. Novichok is a series of binary chemical weapons developed by Russia between 1971 and 1993. Russian scientists who developed the nerve agents claim they are the deadliest ever made, with some variants possibly five to eight times more potent than VX, and others up to ten times more potent than soman. Forty-four-year-old Dawn Sturgess has become the first person to die after being exposed to a strand of the Russian-linked nerve agent novichok. After touching an unknown contaminated item with her partner Charlie Rowley, she collapsed and was taken to hospital in critical condition. Little more than a week later, Sturgess died. Her death comes four months after Sergei Skripal, his daughter Yulia, and police officer Nick Bailey were poisoned by novichok. Novichok nerve agents, which were developed as part of a range of poisons, disrupt nerve signals to the muscles by stopping the acetylcholinesterase enzyme from functioning in the body. This can cause breathing difficulties. Novichok strands five and seven are believed to be the most dangerous but their exact composition is a closely guarded secret.
[PADA: Anything is possible, he could have been poisoned. However too many devotees are already dying of cancer, stroke, massive heart attacks and what have you -- anyway. So I doubt his death could be proven as poison being the cause. I think he and many, many others died prematurely from the stress of participating in the bogus guru imbroglio.
In any case, he did some good exposes, and he at least fought the regime to some extent. At the same time, he was unable to grasp the real extent of problems going on with the molesting victims. And that is why he opposed our efforts to fix it. Most devotees simply have no idea what has been going on with the children and the extent of the damage their either supporting the regime, or silently acquiescing has done. What to speak of the damage they are doing by saying those of us trying to fix the problem are the demons. If we are the demons, then heaven help a society where the main people fixing their molesting process are the demons. Yes, we demons have to save your society's children from you, and your hands. That means they are saying the demons are the ones who care more about their society's children, and not them. What kind of advertising is that? The demons save our children, not us? And what does that tell the victims, the only people who care about you are -- the demons? We wanted your abuse to continue and have you die of suicide. Then they wonder why the victims are cursing at them and their so-called religion? As mother M Dasi said, whatever the problem is, allowing abuse and suicides to continue is not the solution. She is not a common person among devotees, she gets it, many others -- never will. She said it is a fact that the karmis are out there trying to save children from pedophile cults under Central Park, because the karmis have a better grasp of this pedophile issue than most devotees. Anyway, he did some good things, but he could not wrap his head around the extent of problems with the molesting issue, like almost all the others in this situation. Mahavidhya is correct on one thing, at least us karmis and demons do understand the extent of the damage being done to children by pedophile cults. ys pd
D Dasi: Mahavidhya was against the molesting. Maybe he did not understand how serious it was. So he thought you were "going overboard." Some devotees think you were over doing ... and making ISKCON look Satanic. So they went against you ... they just did not know how bad it really was ... for the children. Maybe you were not overboard, but they did not see how bad it was. A lot of devotees were simply too confused ... and did not know what to believe or not. They thought attacking the molesting was attacking ISKCON. They wanted to defend their beloved institution. I think you should not judge them too harsh. They wanted to do ... what they thought was best. Its too bad he and you did not work together, otherwise ... divide and conquer is the result.
ReplyDeletePADA: Good points. In my experience, I was writing all the time for years, and years, and years, and did I forget to mention -- years and years -- about things like book changes. Then, in Los Angeles we helped form a steering committee to make a lawsuit for the original books. Simultaneously, we discussed the child abuse and molesting, and the whole issue of the starving, beating, children suffering depression, the drug problems, the suicides, and presented various horror story examples -- from ex-ISKCON youth. Simultaneously, we addressed the poison issue, and many other issues.
And in almost all that time, Mahavidhya never wrote me once at all. He never said, yes we need original books, yes we need to address the molesting, and hey -- can you send me a copy of the poison tape -- that seems like an important issue. Nothing. Zero. Sounds of crickets. So that is why my friends at the police said -- it seems like the MAIN problem in the Krishna religion is -- not that people do not know, its that they REALLY do NOT want to know. At any point he could have wrote me and asked about any of these issues. Of course that is why some kulis said to me many times -- no one cares. I am writing about their molesting, and its putting people asleep. OK no response is creating the impression -- they don't care.
Then we had the British rebellion against PADA with Krishna Kanta and Bhaja Hari etc. ganging up to tell me -- don't sue the BBT, we will negotiate a BBT deal, don't bring up the molesting in public, and drop the poison issue. So it was worse than neglecting PADA, they were against PADA. And while all this is going on, Mahavidhya says nothing to me one way or the other. Then almost before he passes away, he finally writes to me. Wow! Since 1978 to now I FINALLY get a message, and the message is, what you are doing is bogus. OK, hee hee, that is the reason he never wrote me all along, he never liked what I was about the whole time. So if PADA is addressing these issues, and Mahavidhya has a better plan than mine, why did he never tell us what it is? So a blind uncle is better than none, we did something on all these issues, he simply never told me why these issues should not have been attacked by me? Anyway, there are a number of children who told me this is a Satanic child sacrifice cult, this begs the question, how do they get that impression? Mahavidhya ignored me, but so did most of the other devotees. Its not really a personal grudge, the nearly whole body of people wanted to ignore me and call me the National Enquirer bogus news. OK and that means -- they created the ensuing mess by ignoring these issues, to the peril of their society. In any case, these people are the people holding grudges, I am simply defending from their attacks. ys pd
PADA: Thanks Bhakta Jojo, "herding devotees is like herding cats." Hah hah! You are right, the "karmis" can all unite on the principle of saving the children from pedophile cults. Devotees? OK not so much.
ReplyDeleteThe motorcycle gangs, the meat plant workers, the government people, the atheists, the theists, the businessman, the housewives, every body else, all agree and so they all go out there with signs and bull horns to protest the pedophile cult program. In ISKCON, as soon as PADA says, we have to fight the Satanic pedophile guru cult process, then its like herding cats, almost everyone wanders off in different directions. And worse, they attack the person saying we need to fight the Satanic pedophile cult process. So they are un-united only superficially, because when it comes to our protest of their pedophile cult, many of them unite to attack the protesting. Correct.
Then some of the victims attack me, for being too lenient and not forceful enough with the pedophile cult. So I get blasted by the efficient cause group and the victim result group. In any event, no one else came up with a better plan, that is self evident. The lid had to be blown off this process or there would have been more abuse and more suicides.
And you are right, its possible we only slowed the process, and there is certainly no guarantee there has not been more abuse. So the result of attacking the people who attack pedophile cults is, that allows the pedophile cults to thrive, continue -- and victimize more victims. That is really just common sense, at least to the karmis, who are out there protesting pedophile cults. The devotees as a group cannot seem to be able to wrap their brains around the idea that we need to confront and halt Satanic pedophile cults.
So actually all these devotees who attack me for "working with the karmi police, courts, media, FBI etc." are correct. These "karmi" people understand that we have to attack pedophile cults, cults that are -- as Sulochana says -- "tossing children into a wood chipper." So if the so-called karmi mundane people have to save the ISKCON children from ISKCON's own people, either leaders or rank and file who all unite to not make police reports and reign this in, it means these "karmis" have a superior understanding when it comes to confronting pedophile cults. The "mundane people" report these type crimes to the police, take this issue to courts and media, make public protests with signs, and so on and so forth. So this means, we have to learn from them. And ALL the people who wanted to stop our pedophile cult protest have to then take responsibility for the karma of aiding and abetting pedophile cults. Again also common sense. And now cases of the molester program are evidently happening in the Narayan Maharaja group, and they too are not taking it to the police etc. So its the same thing being recycled, because the devotees as a group are weak on this issue.
And that is why they as a group despise someone who is forceful on this issue. So Mahavidhya thinks what I am doing, i.e. removing hundreds of HIS OWN SOCIETY's children from staying in GBC schools, and stopping HIS OWN SOCIETY's KIDS suicides is -- a bogus program. OK that means yes, the average hamburger eating karmi who is carrying a "save the children from pedophile cults" has a better understanding of the issue. So the devotees are like herding cats, except for one thing, they are apparently all going in different directions, but when it comes to attacking the people who are attacking their pedophile cult, they all unite to attack the person attacking their pedophile cult. Attacking the detractors of their pedophile cult program -- unites many or most of them. So yep that means, we did the right thing. We had to find anyone else we could to fight their peodphile cult process, and we did. And that is the only reason they are even discussing PADA on the issue now, we made it an issue. ys pd