PADA: Banu Swami says that diksha means to help remove and absorb the sins (ksha in diksha). OK so far. Yet his GBC "diksha gurus" are falling down left, right and center into illicit affairs. That means their gurus are not free from sin themselves.
This begs the question:
How can persons (kanisthas or even falling people) who are sinful -- absorb the sins of someone else -- who is sinful?
Banu says we do not emphasize diksha but we emphasize the holy name. False, anyone who rejects the GBC's illicit sex debauchee "diksha guru" program and / or their "parampara" process is not welcome in ISKCON. Basically, the Banu guru sampradaya contains on three types of gurus: (A) debauchees, sexual predators, homosexuals, porno swamis, child molesters etc., (B) the founder fathers, apologists, defenders, cover ups of the debauchee guru process and, (C) those "2/3 show of hands" voted into that parampara process. Where is this form of guru parampara found in shastra?
We have countless testimony from ISKCON people, including ourselves, who are banned from ISKCON for rejecting their illicit sex with men, woman and children guru process. Banu says Bhagavata marg (chanting the holy name) is sufficient, so why does his program have an emphasis on getting "diksha" from persons "engaged in illicit sex with men, women and children" and / or their hand maidens, cheer leaders, or those "voted in" by this group?
And now Banu swami is part of the "editing of Srila Prabhupada's books" committee, oh swell! The members of the illicit sex with men, women and children guru parampara, are going to re-write the Vedas? So Banu says the diksha guru is only one person, also false. ISKCON has their messiahs falling down left, right and center, and then members are being "re-initiated." One woman we know has had four gurus, each one fell down and she went on to accept another, then another, then another. So many contradictions in his statements.
Banu swami says the shiksha guru does most of the real work, ok that means the
ritvik or agent is the more important person. Banu swami says we are having managing problems because the loyalty is divided between the diksha guru and other managers. OK but he has not explained how a debauchee guru system could advise and manage the acharyas, from square one? Or where are conditioned soul managers -- managing any acharyas? Where is this process described by Srila Prabhupada?
Also amazing Banu swami says that people initiated into the illicit sex with men, women and children GBC guru parampara are then eligible to do deity worship. OK so now we are going to offer bhogha to the deity, through an illicit sex guru parampara? Banu says that the second initiation is the door to worship the deity, and that means, we are training people to offer bhogha to a debauchee filled guru parampara, that buries homosexual pedophiles and porno swamis in samadhis?
Maharaja, this food is so tasty!
Was it properly offered to the illicit sex
with men, women and children guru parampara?
To sum! We need to worship the guru, and that means, we have to select one from the Banu swami debauchee's guru parampara. Told ya! ys pd
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LW: Dr. Spock: "Captain we have a problem. We made 80 diksha and parampara gurus. Now they are too puffed up! Won't listen to us. We have to hold back their big worship. Make it smaller. Now we can better control them. They are lesser size acharyas. They should now listen to us managers.
ReplyDelete"Then we ordered our acharyas should not order women into gurus. BUT they did not listen. Did that anyway. So we tried to make them smaller gurus, who would listen. They still don't. So now we have gurus ... who think they are gurus. They think they are above us ... the managers. What are we going to do now?"
But none of this ever happens in the parampara. Banu admits that. He says the key is ... innovating more concocted new stuff. Lets concoct more new guru rules. That means speculate ... create "new rules" for acharyas. Make acharyas lesser? And they just make things up as they go along. Many GBC statements over the years ... are full of this contradiction. He says there is no unity ... many of these gurus don't follow the GBC. So the whole thing is concocted. Foolishness. The guru is not following the managers? Why should the acharya follow the order from the manager?
This is just a guru business. They have no actual gurus and they know it. It is a money making guru business. A $$$ scam.
PADA: Yes S. Dasi that is why they had to kick all of us out. As soon as Banu would give a lecture saying that their post-1978 acharyas have been arrogant fools -- who needed to have their pooja reduced -- we would ask "how come you are saying acharyas are arrogant fools? Oh right, because you are like Apple computer, you just innovate things, so you concocted the idea that acharyas are arrogant fools"? Where does Srila Prabhupada say we should "innovate" to say that acharyas are maybe -- lusty sex hounds, drug addicts, alcoholics, sexual predators, pedophiles, machine gun swamis, and criminals etc.?
ReplyDeleteAnd this is simply another big lie, their pooja has not been reduced either. Giriraja swami just had his Vyasa pooja ceremony. They are not reducing their status, they are still saying they are as good as Vyasa. So they did not even reduce their status, that is simply another big fat lie.
And they also bury known deviants if not homosexual pedophiles and porno swamis in samadhis, that is also not reducing their status. They are burying deviants right near the samadhi of Rupa Goswami. Oh I forgot, we have to "innovate" and elevate homosexual pedophiles to Rupa Goswami's samadhi level. And that would just be the start of our questions.
So they had to have us banned, beaten (maybe with baseball bats?), removed, exiled, sued and -- sometimes assassinated, so we could not be there to ask these questions. So it is what we call "the enforced cult ritualistic worship of homosexual pedophile acharyas as messiahs program." And Banu is simply one of the "enforcers." He watches very carefully, and as soon as anyone of us says messiahs are not EVER debauchees, he arranges to help have us challenged and removed.
So its not just a peodophile worship cult, its a cult that is enforced with very sharp barking dog teeth. And Banu is simply one of the barking dog's with teeth. Sulochana said these guys are -- the velvet glove on the iron fist. Of course kicking people out of ISKCON so they can establish the worship of illicit sex is why, they will soon meet the barking dog's teeth of Yamaraja's agents, and be bitten profusely by those dogs for viciously if not violently establishing that illicit sex deviants are God's successors. As the Isopanisad says, these offenders go to far worse hells than the ordinary man. That is because the ordinary man does not establish the worship of homosexual pedophiles and deviants as samadhi level acharyas. So they are far worse than the ordinary man.
Anyway yep, this explains why they had to kick us all out. ys pd
Sorry JP, you evidently did not listen to his lecture. He says that we have to make innovations like Apple makes innovations to their products. And that is why he supports making innovations (changes) to making their gurus with less pooja, but at same time, they still have Vyasa poojas? And changing (innovating) the books, same idea. We have to innovate to keep up, but keep up with who, the hodge podge folks who also make so many innovations? Srila Prabhupada says change means rascal, and his whole idea is to innovate changes. ys pd https://youtu.be/g3j3DMdIFb4
ReplyDeleteSK Dasi: Making changes? Exactly what Srila Prabhupada ordered ... NOT to do. Total rascaldom. Making more and more "Apple company innovation" ??? More and more changes. Every year another guru leaves, another new guru is innovated made. Another guru leaves from here, another one is made for there. Changing everywhere all the time. And another new this and that. Every day another change. They are so far away from the teachings of Srila Prabhupada.
ReplyDeleteWe cannot recognize his teachings from them. He said no change. They cannot even go by for long without changing the guru all the time. No one ever heard of "blooped gurus in the parampara" before. They innovated that. They are innovating that guru parampara is many blooped devotees. They are changing what is guru parampara. The gurus is acting foolish so he needs ... less pooja? This is so much speculation! Its giving us a headache. Thanks for showing this, we need to show people what they doing.
Dear PADA: You have, for instance, absolutely no proof that they had, one day, sex with anacondas for example...... therefore, in my opinion, that proves a certain level of self-control.
ReplyDelete[PADA: Well yup, hee hee.]